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Offline winland

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Chain breaker and spinner
« on: October 24, 2013, 07:00:10 pm »
Is the woodlandpro chainbreaker and spinner combination the best for occasional use.
I see that Bailey's has it on sale for $100
I figure if I make or repair 30 chains over the next few years, it is worth the investment.
They also have the the male presets for .63 and female straps for .41  (3/8" x .050)
are these pretty good prices?

I could take my chains to my local Stihl dealer for repair or to make loops, but they can take 2 weeks to get them back to me.

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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2013, 07:43:20 pm »
Is the woodlandpro chainbreaker and spinner combination the best for occasional use.
I see that Bailey's has it on sale for $100
I figure if I make or repair 30 chains over the next few years, it is worth the investment.
They also have the the male presets for .63 and female straps for .41  (3/8" x .050)
are these pretty good prices?

I could take my chains to my local Stihl dealer for repair or to make loops, but they can take 2 weeks to get them back to me.
I have owned a Stihl bench mount breaker for over 20 yrs now and still works great, and just bought my first bench spinner last spring from Baileys and it's the red Woodland Pro model your looking at. It is top quality no doubt and will last me a lifetime.
When I don't have new presets from my rolls I just reuse my presets as long as their pressed out straight with no bends, just have to use a ball peen hammer to rivet them..
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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2013, 07:59:35 pm »
Do not think I can justify spending $200+ for a Stihl breaker and another $200+ for a spanner at this time in my life.
They would definitely out last me and get sold off in the estate auction. ;D
Will check Craigslist for any specials on the Stihl NG7

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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2013, 08:48:22 pm »
Harbor Freight is like $54.95 for their spinner/breaker
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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2013, 10:16:59 pm »
I have had the Bailey's set for a few years now.  It is actually larger and heavier duty than it looks in the catalog photo.  Has worked well for a large number of chains. Good deal at that price.

One of the key things is the ability to get parts.  Punches break, especially when you are learning to center them.  I know at least one guy with a HF unit who cannot use it because he cannot get replacement punches that fit.

I would also order a few extra punches and a assortment of pre-sets and tie straps for all of the chains you use, might think you will use, or might work on for friends.  They are about $1 a set, but shipping will kill you if you ever just need a few! 

There are different sizes for different chain pitches, gauges (sometimes), Narrow Kerf chain, and brands (Bailey's will fit Carlton, Oregon, and a few others chains, but NOT STIHL - have to get those from a dealer or off of eBay).  Sometimes, guys who buy chain by the reel with have a few extra.

Spinner / breaker is a great investment for chain maintenance, even if you don't make up your own loops.  Let's you replace damaged cutters or links.  Let's you re-size chains to fit different saws/bars,  re-purpose used chains (great for a chain scrounger like me!).  Etc.

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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2013, 10:41:41 pm »
I'm using the baileys set for 3-4 years now. Worth the $100 for the set.

prices high on the presets and tie straps though. JMO
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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2013, 10:48:46 pm »
I have the Bailey's also and have no complaints except the punches break easy.   So I found a thread here on this forum I think in the tool section on making your own punch.   So I did make my own punch using an old tap that had broken.   I have used that punch numerous times now and it has held up 10 times better than the ones from Baileys.
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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2013, 11:10:28 pm »
"prices high on the presets and tie straps though. JMO"

I'm all ears if you know of any place to buy/order them cheaper (assuming that you don't get them with a reel of chain)? My local STIHL dealer charges more, even when I ordered them in packs of 10.

In another forum breaking punches was discussed, and centering them over the rivets appears to be key. Some breaker anvils are easier to position than others.

I don't re-use the pre-sets. The tie straps can often be re-used, but you have to be careful, as some hard to see burrs can prevent the spun rivets from seating properly, especially on smaller pitch chain.

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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2013, 01:30:00 am »
There's a vid on Youtube about making your own punch. You use soft round stock to make the body with a notch for the set screw.

There is a center hole that you insert a needle bearing roller into. Then taper the needle roller by mounting the punch in a drill and spinning it against a spinning grinding wheel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itM286zYaXg
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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2013, 04:36:50 am »
The bigger problem with tools like the Harbor Freight combination Breaker/Spinner is one of quality control.

One guys HF combo tool couldn't be nicer and has lasted well with no broken punches or anything for many rolls of chain.

And then the next guy has one that is almost unusable.

The biggest problem seems to be the two sides of the spinner will not be aligned. The next big problem is the anvil to rest the chain on to press the rivet out is machined slightly narrow and will not clear the connector plate so the driver will rest properly. This problem will also cause the punch to break. And last the hole in the spinner shaft is not on center and will wobble all over. I read all this on the customer reviews on the HF website.
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