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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #60 on: January 28, 2017, 04:28:37 pm »
At a GTG in southern Indiana few years back I was going to show a peened 1/2" chain I had on a McCulloch 650 gear drive saw. I could not tell which tie strap I had peened from the rest of them in that loop .They tell me in days before people had spinners about everybody peened their chains .

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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #61 on: January 28, 2017, 07:13:00 pm »
Was looking at some carbide insert harvester chain ('Chain-Serts') - their repair instructions specifically said to peen over their rivets with a hammer, suggesting that they could ruin a spinner. Not sure if the Oregon DuraMax spinner / breaker would work.

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I have one of their samples they mailed to me a few years. I was on  MasterBlaster Treehouse site when the Chain-Sert company thought they might find some business. They offered all members a free sample.
Well I guess there was quite a few other then me, because they never posted on the site ever again.
I sent them an  email with all the addresses of all the big logging contractors I know, and they thanked me.
But I cautioned them they won't find much interest from a group of tree monkey hippies on the Tree House site :D

Their product is a pretty cool engineered chain for mechanical harvesters.


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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #62 on: January 30, 2017, 09:05:45 pm »
I have one of their samples they mailed to me a few years. . . . I cautioned them they won't find much interest from a group of tree monkey hippies on the Tree House site  . . .

So YOU are the reason they did not even respond to me when I asked for a short sample piece!!!

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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #63 on: January 31, 2017, 12:22:15 pm »
I have one of their samples they mailed to me a few years. . . . I cautioned them they won't find much interest from a group of tree monkey hippies on the Tree House site  . . .

So YOU are the reason they did not even respond to me when I asked for a short sample piece!!!

Phiibert
No hard feelings on my part, lol...PM your address and I'll mail you my sample. ;)
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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #64 on: February 01, 2017, 03:29:24 pm »
I'm in my shop sorting and organizing stuff and I came upon this.
It's an old Cannon chain breaker for 1/2" chain.
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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #65 on: February 01, 2017, 04:51:57 pm »
I'm in my shop sorting and organizing stuff and I came upon this.It's an old Cannon chain breaker for 1/2" chain.

Very cool! It's easy to become accustomed to the current models of things, and not think of how else things could be / could have been done. 

I know that the rivet tools for bicycle chains (generally have a straight shaft rivet, unlike saw chain) commonly use a small, threaded / screw type press to remove and set rivets, but have heard that there is a similar, hand press, that sets the rivet at precisely the correct depth.  These are / were specific to a certain size of chain, but if you were doing a lot of them . . . .

The right tool for the right job!

Philbert

P.S. Bicycle chains used to be a lot more standardized.  Today, there are a variety of different widths, brands, etc. that are not as compatible / interchangeable.  Some have reusable rivets that are pressed in / out, some have single use rivets that are snapped off in place, some use master links, and some require the ends of the rivets to be peened over (but not much as saw chain).

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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #66 on: February 03, 2017, 05:59:24 am »
It was common place for old bicycle chains to come apart from the rivets working loose .Also I might add quite painful when you ended up straddling the bar.My father suggested peening the rivets which I did at about 11 years old and never had the problem again .

Another thing I might add is I've completely disassembled a special  double roller chain and replaced all the rollers .It was a hydraulics pump coupling chain for a Caterpillar D4 dozer .I couldn't find a new one but I found a piece of single chain at work with the same sized rollers .
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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #67 on: February 03, 2017, 01:16:12 pm »
BTW - if you live near a Northern Tool retail store they were having closeouts of The Granberg 'Break-N-Mend' tools yesterday for $18, after a 50% off clearance price sale. 
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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #68 on: February 28, 2018, 08:16:25 pm »
Tried a New Breaker Anvil

I really wanted to like this one. Slotted anvils are simple, but they fit some chains better than others, and cannot compensate for wear on the tie straps. Threaded anvils are infinitely adjustable, but take a little time to adjust each time they are used. The spring loaded model should have been ideal!

I tried it on a few different pitches of chain: The jaws did not close tight enough for1/4" pitch chain, and did not open wide enough for 3/4" pitch. While it held the 3/8 low profile, .325", 3/8" and .404" chains, it did not like the thinner tie straps on the smaller pitch chains, and slipped off very easily.The 2 halves did not slide as smoothly as I would have liked, due to the rough castings.

I still like the idea. Could work if you mostly use full sized 3/8 and .404 pitch chains. And one that was machined with smoother surfaces and sharper edged jaws might work better with all pitches. I would also like the option to adjust the spring tension.

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Re: Chain breaker and spinner
« Reply #69 on: March 01, 2018, 08:03:58 am »
I got the 2 on the right and middle. So does the one on left do anything better then the other 2?

 

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