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Re: hand square filing
« Reply #140 on: January 13, 2014, 12:06:44 pm »
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Re: hand square filing
« Reply #141 on: January 13, 2014, 02:09:55 pm »
So did you put that golf ball on that file, and if so did you drill it first.
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Re: hand square filing
« Reply #142 on: January 13, 2014, 02:16:01 pm »
It was a picture I found on Google.. . . Don't know anything about it?

I think present day golf balls have a hard rubber central core with gum rubber stretched tightly around the central core. Then there is the vinyl cover.

If you drill a pilot hole in the ball there shouldn't be any danger.

The older golf ball from the 50's that squirted a white liquid in my face had a liquid center. I don't think golf balls are made that way anymore?
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Re: hand square filing
« Reply #143 on: January 13, 2014, 02:36:22 pm »
Friend of mine up north in Sandusky used to come down. He used golf ball for his files.

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Re: hand square filing
« Reply #144 on: January 13, 2014, 02:39:26 pm »
Sorry to go off in left field. But I had to know after reading Jim's post.  I remember the rubber band wound in the past and the new ones I use are solid cores. 

Found something on liquid cores in the past.


October 3, 1997

Dear Cecil:

I recently cut open a golf ball to show my nephew Jason the rubber band wrapper and liquid-filled rubber ball in the center that I remembered from my childhood. Imagine my disappointment to discover a solid white interior made of who knows what, with no rubber bands and no secret center. There was nothing to do but reminisce. I remember as a kid it was common knowledge that the liquid in the center of the golf ball was a deadly poison and should never touch the lips. As an adult, however, I'm wondering . . . could we have been wrong? Did we miss anything, was it the kids who tasted the stuff that went on to Yale? I must know!

— Dave, via AOL

Dear Dave:

When I was a kid I heard two stories. One was that the center of a golf ball was filled with compressed air and if you tried to cut it open it would explode. The other was that the center contained a deadly poison. Either way I figured: wow, golf is exciting! Obviously I had a lot to learn.

I have now established that (1) the compressed air thing was total BS; (2) you can still get liquid-filled golf balls, although the solid-core ones dominate the market; but (3) the liquid isn't and wasn't poison. Titleist, the leading maker of liquid-filled balls, says it has always used a nontoxic solution of salt water and corn syrup. I suppose it's possible some fly-by-night outfit in the dim past might have used something less innocuous. But I'm betting they didn't. Apart from being safe, salt water and corn syrup have the big advantage of being cheap.

Years ago most golf balls were of "wound" or three-piece construction. They either had (1) a small, hollow rubber core filled with liquid, a middle layer of tightly wound rubber thread, and a rubber cover, or (2) a solid rubber core, the wound middle layer, and a plastic cover. Things changed in 1968 when Spalding, now the largest golf ball manufacturer, introduced "solid-core" or two-piece construction, the two pieces being the large, solid rubber core and the plastic cover. Solid-core balls tend to travel farther, which is mainly what duffers are interested in, and now account for 70 percent of the market. But three-piece balls have better control and feel, and for that reason they're preferred by pros. If you want to relive your youth and convince Jason you weren't hallucinating that "secret center" thing, get a Titleist Tour Balata, Titleist Professional, or Hogan 428 Balata. All have liquid cores.

Why a liquid core? Mainly because it helps regulate the ball's spin. Three-piece balls in general have high rates of backspin. High backspin = more lift = ball stays in the air longer. It also makes the ball stop faster when it hits the ground. (Control-oriented pros like that; duffers don't.) Too much backspin, though, and the ball tends to go straight up and straight down. Golf ball engineers use liquid cores (which act as a brake) in balls that would otherwise have too much spin, solid cores in balls that would otherwise have too little. Liquid centers also provide a softer feel when one hits the ball. I could go on, but it gets too complicated, what with your launch angles, your ionomer resins, and your icosahedral dimple patterns. People think rocket science is, well, rocket science? Bah. Rockets are for guys who can't cut it in golf.

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Re: hand square filing
« Reply #145 on: January 13, 2014, 05:14:56 pm »
That's all real good information guys! Now I can see why no liquid came out of mine when I drilled it, also all this golf ball science should make my chain filing all that much better ............ha ha ha.
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Re: hand square filing
« Reply #146 on: January 14, 2014, 04:22:05 am »
That's all real good information guys! Now I can see why no liquid came out of mine when I drilled it, also all this golf ball science should make my chain filing all that much better ............ha ha ha.

another simple cheap idea is a tubeless valve stem (minus valve of coarse).
I just use what ever I have handy but I like  straight cut bevel files for 3/8 race chains, tri files for work and ripping chains. other than that its a simple 7/32 file.




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Re: hand square filing
« Reply #147 on: January 14, 2014, 11:56:27 am »
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Re: hand square filing
« Reply #148 on: January 14, 2014, 12:15:56 pm »
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Re: hand square filing
« Reply #149 on: January 14, 2014, 01:28:50 pm »
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