Author Topic: i think my chain is screwed any tips are greatly appreciated  (Read 377 times)

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Offline 660magnum

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I have one of these  Granburgs. . . . It is much less expensive than the professional ones but does work. I take it to the woods as I have  a Oregon professional type set-up at home. Close to $65 with shippig

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Granberg-Combination-Chain-Breaker-Rivet-Spinner-/281387477784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4184002b18

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chainsaw-Chain-Breaker-Repair-Tool-Portable-field-use-must-have-equipment-/360790302268?pt=US_Hand_Tools&hash=item5400c71e3c

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awesome thanks guys!!

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I normally agree with 660Magnum on most things.  But I got one of those Granberg Break-N-Mend tools, just for field use, and was very disappointed in it.  Still have it for emergency use, but it does not compare to a bench set.  I also discourage buying a no-brand spinner and breaker set off of eBay or from Harbor Freight, etc., as I have known guys that can't get parts for them (punches, spinner anvils, etc.) later on.

A few years back I used birthday money to buy the basic Bailey's combination set on sale then for about $100, after seeing that it was what they actually used in their own shop!
http://www.baileysonline.com/Chainsaw-Chain/Chain-Breakers-Spinners/Chain-Breaker-Spinner-Kits/WoodlandPro-Chain-Breaker-Spinner-Combination.axd

I have been happy with it.  The other sets I would recommend would be the Oregon branded ones (about $240 for the set) or the Precision Tooling set that uses the same parts (about $120).
http://www.baileysonline.com/Chainsaw-Chain/Chain-Breakers-Spinners/Chain-Breaker-Spinner-Kits/Precision-Tooling-Chain-Breaker-Spinner-Combination-with-Chain-Chart.axd

Spinner/breakers are a lot of fun, and let you save/repair/re-size/salvage chains, etc. Make sure that you buy a bunch of the pre-sets and tie straps at the same time, unless you plan to get those from your local dealer, because shipping will kill you if you only need a few.  Get some extras and practice on scrap chain to get started.  ***Also be sure to get all of the punches and spinner anvils you will need for the chains you use.  The Bailey's set comes with all of them: the Oregon and Precision tooling sets require some parts for 1/4", 3/8 low profile, and .325 chain to be purchased separately.  Speak to a live person to be sure you get what you need. ***

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The Granberg is OK for the person that is only going to be doing a couple chains a year.

Compared with a $200 bench setup, the Granberg is miserable but it will punch out and spin up a nice chain. Takes a little muscle, don't think your wife could do it?

Come to think of it, you best be knowing what you are doing with the expensive bench breaker/spinner tools too.

Speaking of knowing what you are doing, I got a almost new Husky 350 chainsaw one time for $120 because it was no good and the chains wouldn't stay on the bar. He had two chains with the saw and he said that neither would stay on the bar.

When  I got it home, I looked at the chains and they had 3/8 pico or low profile presets on .325 chains where they were put together. I took a few hours and filed all the dings off the drivers and installed .325 presets on the chains and everything worked fine.

The story goes on . . . he had pried the clutch cover off with the brake "on" and torn up the brake band. But that was a inexpensive fix.
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There's more than one way to skin a cat .You can grind off the rivet heads in leau of a punch .If you know how a rivet can be peened rather than spun .

FWIW I get a fair amount of damaged Stihl branded chains every year from a tree trimmer buddy .I just cut them down from say a 24" loop to a 20" loop.More times than not a derailed chain only messes up a few drivers or a rocked chain a few cutters .

I've replaced sections of Oregon chain but I have pre sets and tie straps galore for that .Not too many for Stihl .

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I was thinking that we should start a separate 'Spinner and Breaker Thread'.  Then I 'searched' and found we already have one!

http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/chain/chain-breaker-and-spinner/

So I will add any additional comments there, and refer the OP as well.

Philbert


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wow thanks guys, you more than answered everything that i asked, being a noob... it raised more questions though, presets? tiestraps? low pro? how do i know what my out of the box saw came with? im using an oregon 95vpx072g because thats what my dealer told me would work on the saw. what kinds of chain can i experiment with? the box says 325" and .050. how do i tell what size the rivit is and all the other things i need to know to buy connectors and stuff lol. and if i buy hammer on rivets are they better or worse? i have grinders and hammers and punches and stuff, by profession im a hd mechanic lol, never played with this little stuff though

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nevermind guys i just had to look at a couple other threads, i found all i need to know about presets and stuff on the chain identifying thread. thanks for helping me figure all this out, i hope to be able to help other ppl on this site as i learn more   :)

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Before we know it . . . You will be one of the chainsaw pros with all the answers . . . Helping other people.
We should share what we know... someone may learn...
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This stuff can get addictive.  If you just had the one chain you wanted to save, per your original post, you might be able to take it to a local dealer who would do the repair for you, at less than the cost of new chain.  And much less expensive than buying a spinner and breaker.

If you are a hands-on kind of guy, and it sounds like you are, and think you will be doing a lot of this stuff, it pays to have the right tools!.

Philbert

 

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