Chainsaw Repair

Look at Rons 2100 with the filter intake being aluminum . This one is white plastic. Green filter slides over it and just a hose clamp around filter base to white filter intake.

Kev, you're a brave man!!   That kinda chit drives me crazy, don't know if I would have the patience.  So do you need to have the computer re flashed in addition  to the new cluster display?

Adam

If I would have used my old cluster I would have had to have dealer do the update.

Told my wife I would dance like a leprechaun if my idea works. Well I need some beer to dance like a leprechaun. :yes:

Guys if you have a older 02 before July 02 like mine it is the software updated needed I posted above or cluster gone alseep bad etc.

I found a junkyard that would let me try a 2004 xl IPC and I heard it wake when plugged in. Only thing the fuel gauge needed the $10 part.  I ask if they had another one. They said a 2003 but not a xl. I said it dont matter IMO would you have them pull it and let me try it. They did and it sounded and woke just like the 04 one and all the gauges , odometer and info ceter all work.

Just so you guys know 02 03 04 work in 02 and best if July 02 and after for newest software. Unless you want to go to dealer for the updates and hope it wakes up.


Here is some stuff I had found that made me try above.

If I am reading this right.  If I would install a 03 or later IPC  or a 02 built after July.  I wouldnt have to do the reprogram on mine if that is the problem.  Am I thinking right on this below.

 

So will a 03 plug and play on my 02 built 06/01?  Would it matter if from trailblazer?

 

 I know roadie or someone helped me do this updating my heater module from 02 to 03 updated one.

 

Service Procedure

Some vehicles involved in this customer satisfaction program may have had their instrument panel cluster (IPC) replaced prior to this program. As a result, the replacement cluster may not need to be reprogrammed.

 

To determine whether the IPC in the vehicle requires reprogramming, the following procedure must be performed.

Important: The Tech 2 diagnostic tool must be updated with software version 8.0, released July 2002, or newer, in order to perform the reprogramming.

Nobody could tell me if the 03-04 would work so I took the chance today.

Might need a few in me to do my Leprechaun Dance I promised if my idea fixed the envoy.




Dealer would have had to do this.

Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Gauges Read Zero at Times, Gauges Inoperative at Times (Reprogram IPC) #02-08-49-004A - (Nov 1, 2002)
Instrument Panel Cluster (IPC) Gauges Read Zero at Times, Gauges Inoperative at Times (Reprogram IPC)

2002 Chevrolet TrailBlazer, TrailBlazer EXT

2002 GMC Envoy, Envoy XL

2002 Oldsmobile Bravada

This bulletin is being revised to change the service procedure. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 02-08-49-004 (Section 08 -- Body and Accessories).
Condition

Some customers may comment that at times all the IPC gauges are inoperative or read zero at times.
Cause

The IPC cluster module receives information to position the gauges when the key is turned from OFF to ON/START. Random electrical interference with this data information on the serial data line may interrupt the receipt of the information by the IPC. When the IPC data information signal is compromised, the IPC will set the gauges to zero for that complete ignition cycle. The gauges may work properly on the next ignition cycle, if the ignition was off for approximately five minutes prior to the next ignition cycle.
Diagnostic Aid

With the Tech 2®, determine the IPC software part number using the following procedure.

   1. Connect the Tech 2 to the vehicle.
   2. Power up the Tech 2.
   3. From the main menu, Press Enter.
   4. Select F0: Diagnostics.
   5. Select the correct model year.
   6. Select: Ld Trk.
   7. Select F1: Body
   8. Select the proper vehicle line
   9. Select the proper name plate.
  10. Select the HVAC type.
  11. Select Instrument Panel Cluster.
  12. Select F4: ID Information.
  13. Select F1: Module Information 2
  14. If the IPC software part number is 09363270 or 15085477, re-program the IPC.

Correction

   1. Re-Program the IPC following normal SPS procedures (TIS Version 8.0 released July 2002, or newer).
   2. Clear all codes.
   3. Disconnect the Tech 2 and return the vehicle to the customer.

Kev, you're a brave man!!   That kinda chit drives me crazy, don't know if I would have the patience.  So do you need to have the computer re flashed in addition  to the new cluster display?

Adam

I had made it way worse till I could just get back to the original problem.  Scared the heck out of me. Had it not even starting and everything inside flashing on off, half the stuff inside not working lights, buttons on wheel etc.
I thought I was just going to right the ------- off.

copy paste my post

First off I lost my dash cluster gauges.

Came back from in from golf got in the envoy started it up and no gauges came on at all . All 6 just 0 left side plus no total mileage shown in area that shows mileage and trip miles drove etc.

Everything worked perfect till came back in today. Checked 24 fuse and it's good. 

Mileage being out too threw me a curve because I cant keep track of mileage driven for gas.

 

The gear selector area isnt shown either.

 

How does the ignition effect this in my problem in last 2 post, just in case?

 

I pulled the cluster and cleaned all the contacts on back etc

 

May gauges and odometer and shift indicator all came back on for drive to work. When I left today not working again. crazy

Did anyone try cleaning connections to the under hood fuse box? Mine had some green corrosion.

 

I cleaned all terminals to the fuse box under hood and pulled the 125mega fuse thing to clean it too.

 
I am only making things worse. Now my 02 envoy wont start after doing all this stuff trying to get my IP working again.
I cleaned all the terminals going into fuse box under hood. I checked fuses and changed them just in case 22 24.
I cleaned the back of IP board etc.

I can hear things click running under hood and inside area but no start.

I'm only making it worse and cant start to even check to see if last fix worked.

I am at a loss to figure this out. What about the security system? Think it has crime stopper for remote start.
 
 

Tried the remote start. Thinking security stuff. Everything click runs under hood like it is setting start, but no start.
Even the a/c etc all come on just like it is set. Hit brake to turn everything off without key.

 

 I am trying to piece to threads with 2 different problems over last 2-3 days.

 

Today I hook both side of batt back up after setting over nite. When getting in I noticed entry lights didnt come on.

 

Then tried to start. It started.

 

Dash and all 6 gauges still not working, shift indicator nor the odometer or  info center area.

 

Noticed radio come on go off. Lights get bright then dim on radio then dash. 4x4 shift indicator lights all light up then off then up and then off.

 

So I turn off restart.  Turn off restart.  Make sure that was good.

 

So I turn key to on but not try to start. Pull PCM B and PCM I and the 4x4 module for 5-10mins. Turn key of reinstall all fuses and no start again.

 

Can hear the clicking etc under hood area when  trying to start, but not the starter. Sounds like relay etc.

 

So fellows I am in way over my head on this 02 envoy xl right now.