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Offline mdavlee .

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Re: Whats on your bench today
« Reply #530 on: December 17, 2016, 06:53:28 am »
Cool build. I'd like to see it run again.

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Re: Whats on your bench today
« Reply #531 on: December 17, 2016, 08:22:57 am »
Wonderful to see Holmen Tree, did you post some more pics here in this site for the detail of this saw? Look forward to seeing more.
Chy

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Re: Whats on your bench today
« Reply #532 on: December 17, 2016, 10:24:46 am »
Thanks guys.
Good to see you again chy_farm !  I like your cool twin pipe build on your Echo.
Which reminds me, I'm going to start a thread of this YZ rebuild on the Modified Ported Work or Race Saws section.

I fixed the lighting in my shop for better photos, funny how a old technology incandescent light bulb over my work bench can't be compatible with the camera on my Samsung phone :D
I got my motivation from Ken Steeves with his historical hot saw rebuilds. So I'm going to to take my time with this saw rebuild. Even though it's only historical for me :)

Amazing what you can do with the Internet today. I was finding brand new OEM  parts for my 1982 YZ125 J.
 I'm going to order lots of cylinder head O rings and base gaskets before their all gone.
Even found a set of 1982 YZ125J sand casted factory works race  cylinders .  :o

I plan on racing this saw again one day for the fun of it. Might not have the power of a big Rotax . But I will get it under 30 lbs with b/c included. Alot better then trying to cold start and steer a 60 lb plus Rotax.

For any of you guys who know who Ron Hartill is. He was 7 time World Lumberjack champ at Hayward Wisconsin in the 70's and 80's.
 I was in Ron's shop in the summer of 1988 after a competition. Ron was showing me his 135cc B-Bomb kart hot saw. A saw he was beating 250cc bikes saws in 20" wood in the States.
He liked my YZ engine alot and he said the left hand drive was definitely not a handicap. 
His advice was I have to make the Yamaha as compact as possible. He said the cold start and between cuts with a consistent reliable saw is the deciding moment when you win or lose. Drive sprocket gearing is very important.  Alot of guys run too big of a sprocket on their hotsaws for the type of wood their cutting.

He said it's not the most powerful  saw with unpredictably to cut at a show that wins.
It's the consistent reliable saw with a good operator who also knows how to put a good edge on his chain who has good luck.
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Re: Whats on your bench today
« Reply #533 on: December 17, 2016, 07:10:08 pm »
You have some interesting history Holmen.
PP 505, 475, 445.
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Re: Whats on your bench today
« Reply #534 on: December 18, 2016, 04:03:51 am »
>Good to see you again chy_farm !  I like your cool twin pipe build on your Echo.
>Which reminds me, I'm going to start a thread of this YZ rebuild on the Modified Ported Work or Race Saws section.

Thanks Holmen, it's very nice to know this, look forward to reading your new thread.
My twin Echo has a lead valve after her carb, and this lead is relatively a big one comprises of 4 big lobes, so this means she was made not for very high rev machine. Asked Echo on the highest rev spin, their reply was nearly 11000rpm for this twin. Shame I wanted to spin her over 13500,,,,Anyways I have to do something better for her port. Your coming thread will surely help me do this job!
Chy   

(McCulloch) PM6,PM320,SP40,PM484,10-10A,PM610,35A,47,300,450,PM800,1-70,1-80,740,740(mod),795,SP125C
(Echo) CS-302,CS-502EVL,CS-60S,CS-601S VL,CS-803EVL,CS-803EVL(mod),CS-651T
(Homelite) DM 50,Super Mini S,Super XL-9225,Super 1050
(Partner) 1614/Mini P,R417T,S55,R14T,R12,R12,K12S,
(Stihl) MS-180C,08S,070AV,084AV
(Shindaiwa) Pecker A110,E305AV
(Dolmar) 123,PS 7900
(Jonsereds) 49SP,455
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Re: Whats on your bench today
« Reply #535 on: December 18, 2016, 04:13:20 pm »
Thanks for the kudos Chy and 3000,
I haven't started the new thread yet, presently working on a "studio light setup"  for taking photos of the saw on the workbench. I got influenced by the article I posted below.
I have a couple of umbrellas and some white spray paint ;D
Plus a proper lamp.

Great article on the Echo 610 twin. Chy, I think you were talking about the double reed valve setup.

Not rushing into my saw rebuild I have come to a conclusion to build with carbon fibre. I'm tossing around the idea of building a integrated rear handle , top handle and fuel tank with the carbon fibre.
Lot's of info on the net about working with carbon fibre. But I do have a good connection with my oldest brother who built drones and their software for the U.S. military since the 1990's. 8)

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Re: Whats on your bench today
« Reply #536 on: December 19, 2016, 03:23:15 am »
Very nice reading Holmen thanks, and yes you are right. I am watching this;
http://www.dragonfly75.com/moto/reeds.html

If I were able to fabricate a special carbon fiber plate that would be the best one for her!
Chy

(McCulloch) PM6,PM320,SP40,PM484,10-10A,PM610,35A,47,300,450,PM800,1-70,1-80,740,740(mod),795,SP125C
(Echo) CS-302,CS-502EVL,CS-60S,CS-601S VL,CS-803EVL,CS-803EVL(mod),CS-651T
(Homelite) DM 50,Super Mini S,Super XL-9225,Super 1050
(Partner) 1614/Mini P,R417T,S55,R14T,R12,R12,K12S,
(Stihl) MS-180C,08S,070AV,084AV
(Shindaiwa) Pecker A110,E305AV
(Dolmar) 123,PS 7900
(Jonsereds) 49SP,455
(Husqvarna) 550XP
(Tanaka) TCS-33EDTP
(Makita) EK-900
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Re: Whats on your bench today
« Reply #537 on: December 19, 2016, 07:23:39 am »
Good reading Chy about the reed valve. I have a 30 year old set of Boyesen reed petals for my Yamaha but their yellow color so their not carbon fibre. But I see the new Boyesen are now black color carbon fibre.
I still have the factory stainless steel reeds in the saw which I trusted more back then.
Lot's of poor advice 30 years ago from the moto cross experts when I built and ran the YZ hotsaw . Totally different operation application from each other.  Things like tune pipe stinger length to ignition timing.
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Re: Whats on your bench today
« Reply #538 on: December 19, 2016, 08:29:56 am »
I think you are mentioning a very good point Holmen, this stinger length and diameter are things I think most. Have been reading this graph here;



the original site is here;
http://www.dragonfly75.com/motorbike/stingersizing.html

Chy

(McCulloch) PM6,PM320,SP40,PM484,10-10A,PM610,35A,47,300,450,PM800,1-70,1-80,740,740(mod),795,SP125C
(Echo) CS-302,CS-502EVL,CS-60S,CS-601S VL,CS-803EVL,CS-803EVL(mod),CS-651T
(Homelite) DM 50,Super Mini S,Super XL-9225,Super 1050
(Partner) 1614/Mini P,R417T,S55,R14T,R12,R12,K12S,
(Stihl) MS-180C,08S,070AV,084AV
(Shindaiwa) Pecker A110,E305AV
(Dolmar) 123,PS 7900
(Jonsereds) 49SP,455
(Husqvarna) 550XP
(Tanaka) TCS-33EDTP
(Makita) EK-900
(Alpina) A40
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Re: Whats on your bench today
« Reply #539 on: December 20, 2016, 10:38:59 pm »
Chy, good info there. I found the factory pipe worked good for me...... but a custom made pipe  for quick throttle response and max WOT power will one day be in my plans.
I'm  still getting my tools and shop organized and have to buy a new lamp tomorrow for my "studio lighting " for taking pics of my project....before I start my new thread ;D
That's how I operate, do it right . ;)

I can't  believe how much new OEM parts are available for my engine on the net.

Wouldn't this  new Yamaha  factory works race sand cast cylinder be nice on my engine. If only I could justify the $971 price tag. :o
Scroll through the 9 pics. Would be about 2 lbs lighter then my cylinder with the chrome bore and no cast iron liner.

http://m.ebay.ca/itm/142218972962?_mwBanner=1
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