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Offline leec

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Re: CS 4400 Very hard to pull.
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2017, 12:13:45 pm »
Thanks for that chart.
According to that the stuff I bought should work.
It is thinner however you can tell by looking.
I won't have a chance to get to the dealer for a few days.
I will let you know if the new rope fixes it.

Perhaps some part was left out of your recoil rebuild or parts put back in the wrong sequence.  Try taking the recoil off the saw and see if it is still hard to pull, should be very easy off the saw.

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Re: CS 4400 Very hard to pull. SOLVED (I think.)
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2017, 12:09:44 am »
Sorry it took so long for me to get back to this.

I went to my Echo dealer and paid $3 for 1 yard of the Stens rope like I linked to earlier.  I took off the Koch Industries rope and put on the Stens, then put the saw back together.   Then I tried to start it.  It retracted more often but was still hard to pull.  Then I pulled the plug and turned the saw over.  I would guess an ounce or 2 of gas and oil poured out.  I left the plug out for 10 min then put it back in.  I turned the choke off set the throttle open and pulled.  It pulled easier and revved up, ran a little and died.  Set it for half choke and pulled again and it started and ran.

All the gas in the chamber was making it hard to crank. 

I put all of this up in case some other newbie like myself searches for this later.  I am disappointed that after installing a new recoil spring and rope the stater still fails to retract occasionally.  The saw is at least 10 years old but has been used very little.  I guess as it has aged some part of the plastic has warped slightly.  Oh well it is much better than it was.

Thanks again for all your help!
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Offline sharkey

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Re: CS 4400 Very hard to pull.
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2017, 03:18:12 am »
You need to tension the rope.  Take the starter housing off.  With the housing in your hands, pull the rope out one foot.  Place your thumb on the spool so it cannot retract.  Grasp the loose rope in your other hand and spin it around the spool two turns without allowing anything to move other than what your doing.  This adds tension to the spring because you have pulled the rope out, and now shortened the rope up two turns without allowing the spool to turn.  It should retract now perfectly.  I would recommend a Walbro 'wat' kit for that carb too.  Stop by the dealer, he will know which one.  The inlet needle is sticking open flooding the engine.  Replace the gaskets and diaphragms.  Whats up is the older ones melt from the alcohol laced into our gas these days.  If you need help installing the kit, just start a thread.     
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Re: CS 4400 Very hard to pull.
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2017, 05:45:23 am »

 Good advice Sharkey, when putting on new starter ropes when pulling the rope out all the way make sure it comes to the end of the rope before the spring is wound tight.  Steve


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