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Re: Echo bar adapters 12mm to 8mm D176
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2015, 01:24:18 am »
Quote from: Nathaniel Vansickle on August 07, 2015, 11:49:05 am
Echo adapters dont fit the 590/600/620. outside of studs on the 620 is 1.885 and the adapters have a spacing of 1.725. So now the question is what all will these Echo adapters fit?


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Quote from: Eccentric on August 08, 2015, 12:59:08 am
I bet those are patterned off older D176 mount saws.  I will measure my Poulan, Echo, Homelite, and Lombard D176 mount saws this weekend.  Kevin if I don't post up here by Sunday evening please give me a ring or a text.  My memory isn't the best....

I measured various D176 mount saws today.  Early XL-12.  Homelite XL-800/850.  Poulan 3400.  Poulan 5200.  Lombard Cyclone.  Echo CS500VL.  Pioneer 11-60.  They all come up as being around 1.556" outside edge to outside edge.  They all fit these "S" stud spacer clips that were once common for adapting a D096/D196/UXL bar onto an A176/D176 mount saw.   That's narrower enough than the adaptors that you've received that I am not sure if they'd fit any D176 saw that I know of.  Too wide for the older saws, and too narrow for the current Echos.  Hmmm.....




'S' Spacer as used on all older A176/D176 mount saws that I am aware of.



Same 'S' spacer on the studs of an Echo CS500VL.



'S' spacer on the studs of a Lombard Cyclone.



'S' clip on a Pioneer 11-60.



'S clip on a Craftsman 5.2/Poulan 5200 CounterVibe.
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Tune the H side so that it 4-strokes (burbles) at WOT unloaded and just cleans up when under load.
When you lift cutting load, the saw should immediately revert to 4-stroking.  Fine tune the transition point for the wood you're cutting.

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Re: Echo bar adapters 12mm to 8mm D176
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2015, 09:14:51 am »
i used to have a dozen of those "S" adapters laying around here at the shop. Still have to figure out what these will fit.
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Re: Echo bar adapters 12mm to 8mm D176
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2015, 01:17:18 pm »
Sorry guys I keep forgetting to check the 6700.
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Re: Echo bar adapters 12mm to 8mm D176
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2015, 03:12:12 pm »
Quote from: Nathaniel Vansickle on August 10, 2015, 09:14:51 am
i used to have a dozen of those "S" adapters laying around here at the shop. Still have to figure out what these will fit.


I just bought 10 of them (and 2 of the shorter ones used on Homelite Super E-Z and XL-101 series saws) from Joyce the Chainsawlady.  Had a few already, and couldn't pass up the chance to have a bunch more when she posted them for sale.

IIRC, GB cataloged their versions of the S clip recently.  The link to the GB catalog is in a thread here somewhere (IIRC, Cut4fun posted it).  If I remember right, one of their spacers is for the same D176 to D196/UXL adaptation, and they had 2 or 3 more clips (different thicknesses of wire) for other adaptations.  Now I need to find that thread...
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For older saws:
Tune the H side so that it 4-strokes (burbles) at WOT unloaded and just cleans up when under load.
When you lift cutting load, the saw should immediately revert to 4-stroking.  Fine tune the transition point for the wood you're cutting.

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Re: Echo bar adapters 12mm to 8mm D176
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2015, 03:43:28 pm »
Echo 6700 D176 bar mount area.

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Re: Echo bar adapters 12mm to 8mm D176
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2015, 04:57:01 pm »
 ???
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Re: Echo bar adapters 12mm to 8mm D176
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2015, 07:59:03 pm »
Quote from: Nathaniel Vansickle on August 10, 2015, 04:57:01 pm
???

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I showed 3 ways of reading it. ;) For fun. At  the shoulder on stud and loose not real tight.

1.894 is real close to yours 1.885
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Re: Echo bar adapters 12mm to 8mm D176
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2015, 08:08:55 pm »
Interesting.
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For older saws:
Tune the H side so that it 4-strokes (burbles) at WOT unloaded and just cleans up when under load.
When you lift cutting load, the saw should immediately revert to 4-stroking.  Fine tune the transition point for the wood you're cutting.

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Re: Echo bar adapters 12mm to 8mm D176
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2015, 08:31:22 pm »
Seems they dont fit anything D176 we all have.  What does cannon say?
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Re: Echo bar adapters 12mm to 8mm D176
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2015, 09:44:44 am »
I checked my 8000. It's the same as the 6700. coutesy of rmotoman over on AS. So I am putting a call in to Cannon to ask WTF they patterned these adapters off of as soon as they open today.
 
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