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Echo Chainsaw History 1963-1986
« on: April 02, 2014, 08:33:19 pm »
Just saving info.  Per Echo Nut Bob Wright.

Copy pasted no corrections.

Here is some Echo history that i have dates and papers of. My dad was a dealer from 1970 to 1984

Kyoritsu Noki Company Limited Echo's 1963-1971
Kyoritsu CS-80 1963 First Echo model
Kyoritsu CS-60 1965 Second Echo model
Kyoritsu CS-100 1965
I don't belive any came to the US in these years '63-'65 at least by the company.

March 1969 Echo comes To America. Kyoritsu Noki SN Tags
CS-60S, CS-801 or CS-802, CS-100
1970 CS-301, CS-60S, CS-601, CS-801 or CS802, CS-100

1971 Kioritz SN Tags Echo's
1971-1974 CS-302, CS-60S, CS-451, CS-601, CS-701, CS802, CS-100
1975 CS-302, CS-60S, CS-452, CS-601, CS-701, CS-802, CS-100
1976 CS-302, CS-60S, CS-452, CS-602, CS-702, CS-802, CS1001VL ('76-'80)
1977 CS-302, CS-60S, CS-315, CS-351, CS-452, CS-602, CS-702, CS-802, CS1001VL
1978 Cut Off Saws CS-60S 12" CS-701 14"
1979 CS-302S, CS-60S, CS-315, CS-351, CS-452, CS-602, CS-702, CS-750, CS1001VL
1981 CS-302S, CS-60S, CS-280, CS-290, CS-300, CS-500, CS-600, CS-650, CS-702, CS-750, CS-900
1985 CS-60S, CS-280, CS-290, CS-300, CS-500, CS-610, CS-650, CS-750, CS-900
1986 CS-60S, CS-280, CS-290, CS-300, CS-500, CS-550, CS-610, CS-650, CS-8000, CS-900

Now there could be some overlap of models that dealers had on the shelves and the exact dates of some newer models i don't know for sure in the mid 80's so i just lumped some together.

The one saw that was made the longest was the CS-60S from 1965-2007 that i can find the last ones of. They weren't sold in the US after '83 but still sold overseas, thats 42 years of the same model.

Now there are some models sold in other countries that are in between the models here in the US Like the CS-803 in Japan is the CS-750 in the US



On John Deere echo Chainsaws.

Maybe, There was a JD dealer right up the road from my dads shop and i think they started selling yellow Echos in '79 or so and prob went to the mid 80's...Bob

    Sears also had the 302 and the 701 in Sears yellow. The mod # started with 271

    Mobilco in Australia had some rebagded Echos and i have seen the 702

    Barker had a rebadged 602






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Re: Echo Chainsaw History 1963-1986
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2014, 02:18:15 am »
Very cool post. Thanks Cut, I really like learning history of these companies. I'd like to gather as much info as I can and do a "mostly" inclusive thread on who's who in the chainsaw world right now. So many have combined that I'm not sure just how many companies stand alone now. Is Echo part of the Husky/Poulan conglomerate?
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Re: Echo Chainsaw History 1963-1986
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2014, 02:45:52 pm »
 Thought this was interesting = The majority of ECHO products are built in the United States from foreign and domestic parts and components. 
From info maybe 1985 and up WAG?

About Us  http://www.echo-usa.com/About-ECHO/About-Us

For more than 40 years, ECHO Incorporated has been a worldwide leader in the development and manufacture of professional-grade, hand-held outdoor power equipment for both the commercial and homeowner markets. Today the company sells its products in North America through ten distributors managing 6,600 independent dealers. An additional 24 Latin American distributors sell ECHO products through a variety of channels. ECHO products can be found in Home Depot stores in the U.S., Canada, Mexico and Puerto Rico.  The company prides itself on setting the industry standard with its dedication to new technology, quality products and its strong distribution infrastructure. From establishing technological advancements in premium tools for landscaping and arborist professionals, to expanding its capabilities to meet industrial and consumer demand, ECHO has a heritage rich of accomplishment.

The Early Years
ECHO Incorporated was founded in Northbrook, IL, in 1972 as Kioritz Corporation of America. It was officially established under its present name in 1978. The company originally was an importer of high-performance 2-cycle engines and hand-held products manufactured by Kioritz Corporation of Japan.  In 1979, ECHO shifted its focus to engineering and manufacturing and began initial production and assembly operations in Wheeling, IL. The first lawn care product it produced for the US market was the curved shaft GT-200 grass trimmer. Soon after, ECHO broadened its product offerings to include chain saws, straight shaft grass trimmers, brushcutters, backpack and hand-held blowers, and hedge trimmers.

Continued Growth
In 1984 ECHO Power Equipment Canada was created as a subsidiary and in 1985, ECHO Incorporated established its present-day Americas corporate headquarters in Lake Zurich, IL, a Chicago suburb. Also in 1985, the company completed construction of its first 100,000 square foot manufacturing facility.  Since then, the company has steadily expanded in size, adding additional buildings in 1988, 1995 and 2000. With the completion of a new warehouse in 2010, the company’s campus now includes more than 540,000 square feet of office, manufacturing and warehouse facilities. The majority of ECHO products are built in the United States from foreign and domestic parts and components.

In 1994, ECHO began its relationship with Home Depot as a provider of professional-quality hand-held outdoor power equipment for the consumer homeowner market. Although it had sold premium equipment to the consumer market for years through its extensive dealer network, this value-added partnership helped to broaden ECHO’s market presence.

Leadership
Throughout its tenure, ECHO has worked hard to maintain a strong foothold in the industry, both with technological advancement and solid business operations. No stranger to product innovation, ECHO engineers have pioneered many ground-breaking products as a result of aggressive market research, engineering proficiency and recognition of customer needs. Within recent years, ECHO successfully evolved 2-stroke engine technology to meet the growing demands of the commercial market, while pioneering new efforts to meet both EPA emissions regulations and CARB standards.  Today ECHO’s engine technology represents the very best in industry leadership - balancing high-quality performance with environmental demands in a 2-stroke engine.

ECHO is the largest subsidiary of the Yamabiko Corporation of Japan.

 
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Re: Echo Chainsaw History 1963-1986
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2014, 05:56:27 pm »
The Echo distributor for this area is Central Power Systems on the near West side of Columbus, Ohio. Orders entered before 11AM go out UPS that day and are delivered the next day. Central Power also does Dolmar, Oregon, Carlton, NGK, and B&S.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2014, 08:11:59 pm »
YAMABIKO Corporation achieved 60 million engine production on April 19th, 2013.
http://www.yamabiko-corp.co.jp/echo-global/?cat=1


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Re: Echo Chainsaw History 1963-1986
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2016, 09:31:17 am »
Always wondered if echo and shindaiwa had any form of partnership early on, a lot of the saws share many similarity's

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Re: Echo Chainsaw History 1963-1986
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2016, 12:21:31 pm »
Some very cool info  @chy_farm linked in the echo 651 twin thread. https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.motorsaegen-portal.de%2Fwiki%2FEcho-Kioritz_Motors%25C3%25A4gen

Echo Kioritz Shindaiwa Yamabiko

offered as the Japanese Kioritz Group chainsaws in the US, they created there the Echo brand.

1971 Name change: Kyoritsu Noki Company Ltd. to KIORITZ CORPORATION

Since 2009, Echo and Shindaiwa cooperate branded Yamabiko.


Warning:

also echo has awarded nearly identical model names with very different saws.

That will always interesting with wear and tear parts, as well as setting data.

Example: CS 400, there are even in 3 variants?


Type Code:

CS = chainsaw, the first two digits describe about the displacement - more than 100cc the first three.

Saws with 3 or 4-digit model numbers were at times very similar in structure, with the same first three digits in different sales areas at the start.

When ordering spare parts shortages because sometimes something goes, even at different E numbers.

This is not supported by all regional offices. But we know this also from other manufacturers.

With four-digit model number and deviating 3rd or 4th digit only little things have been modified?

T either twin or top handle.

C is 2014 carving in the model name.

ES => Easy Start


CS 601T EVL    Boxer Twin                ~ 198?
CS 611T    Boxer Twin                ~ 198?
CS 651T    Boxer Twin                ~ 198?
CST 600 EVL    Boxer Twin       6?,?    7 ,?       1981
CST 610 EVL    Boxer Twin       61.0    6.9       ~ 1986
CS 60                blue    ~ 1968
CS 60S          61.5    7.0    red or orange    1967 - 1983
CS 80                blue    ~ 1963
CS 100          102    9.0       1965 - 1966
CS-280 E    Top Handle       27.9    3.5       
CS-301          30.6    4.4    2 * CS 301?    
CS-302    Even with hedge trimmer       30.1    4.5       1972 - 1983
CS-302S          33.4          
CS 315          30.1    4.2       ~ 197?
CS 351          35.2    5.0       ~ 197?
CS 422 VL                   
CS 451 VL          44.3    5.2       
CS 452 VL          44.3    5.6       ~ 197?
CS 500 VL          49.9          ~ 197?
CS 601 VL          59.8    6.2       ~ 197?
CS 701 VL          70.7          ~ 197?
CS 1001 VL          99.7    10       ~ 1976
CS 280 EVL          2?          
CS 285 EVL          2?          
CS 290 EVL          27.9    3.8       ~ 198?
CS 330 EVL          33.4    4.3       ~ 198?
CS 360 EVL          3?    4 ,?       ~ 198?
CS 400 EVL    brake inside       40.2    4.9       ~ 198?
CS 440 EVL    brake inside       44.2    5.1       ~ 198?
CS 500 EVL    brake inside       49.9    5.5       ~ 198?
CS-510 EVL          49.9    6.0       ~ 198?
CS-550 EVL          54.7    5.9       ~ 198?
CS-660 EVL          64.2    6.5       ~ 198?
CS 750 EVL          78.6    8.5       ~ 198?
CS 900 EVL          91.6    9.0       ~ 1981
CS 1001                   
CS 1100                   
CS 1160                   
CS 1200          116.3       without breaks    ~ To about 2008
CS 1201          116.3    10.6    without breaks    ~ 2012
CS-270 WES    carving       26.9    3.1       ~ To 2011
CS-260T    Top Handle    0.91 / ..    26.9    2.8       ~ 2010
CS-2600 ES    Top Handle    0.91 / ..    26.9    2.8       ~ 2010
CS-270 WES          26.9    3.1       ~ 2010
CS-2700          26.9    3.1       ~ 2010
CS-2800          26.9          
CS-2900          28.5    3.0       
CS-300    ~ 340 ~ 345       30.1    3.1       
CS-301    ~ 341 ~ 346       30.1    3.1    Successor to the CS 300    
CS-3000 EUSTD    Top Handle       30.1    3.2       ~ 2012
CS-3000    the CS-305 quite similar       30.1    3.2       ~ 199? - 20 ??
CS-303 T          30.1    3.5       ~ 2013
CS-305          30.1    3.4    also in gray livery    
CS-306    very similar to the CS-305       30.1    3.4    also in gray livery    
CS-320 T    Shiondaiwa 320 TS       32.3    3.3       
CS-320 TES       1.36 / 1.85    32.3    3.5       ~ 2013
CS-330 T          32.6    3.6       
CS-330 Camo    Top Handle       32.6    3.6    camouflage - camouflage    
CS-3400    the CS-305 quite similar    1.2 / 1.6    33.4    3.3       
CS-3450    the CS-305 quite similar    1.42? / ..    33.4    3.4       
CS-340    ~ 300, ~ 345       33.4    3.3       
CS-341    ~ 301 ~ 346       33.4    3.3    Successor to the CS 340    
CS-345    ~ 300, ~ 340       33.4    3.4       
CS-346    ~ 301 ~ 341       33.4    3.4    Successor to the CS 345    
CS-3500          34.0    3.6       ~ 2012
CS-351 WES       1.5 / 2.0    35.8    3.6       ~ 2010
CS-350 WES       1.5 / 2.0    35.8    3.6       ~ 2010
CS-350 TES    Top Handle    1.46 / 1.99    35.8    3.4       ~ 2010
CS-360 T          36.3    3.6       
CS-3600    the CS-3900 similar       35.8    4 ,?       
CS-3900    the CS-3600 similar       39.6    4.4       
CS-370 ES       1.4 / 2.0    35.8    4.4       
CS-370 ES    Shindaiwa 363    1.4 / 1.9    36.3    4.5    S.Nr.:09001001-09999999    
CS-3700 ES    the CS-4200 similar    1.5 / 2.0    35.8    4.4    Successor of 3600    
CS-396 SP          39.6    4.4       
CS-400    outside brake       40.2    4.6       
CS-4000    ~ 4500    2.0? / ..    39    5.0       1986 -
CS-4010    4000 + Heated handle       39    5.0       198?
CS-4100          39    5 ,?       198?
CS-420 ES          40.2    4.6       
CS-4200 ES    the CS-3700 similar    1.89 / ..    39.6    4.44    Successor of 3900    
CS-440    outside brake       43.6    4 ,?       
CS-440          45.0    4.8    3 * CS 440?    
CS-4400       2.2 / 3.0    43.6    4.6    also in gray livery    
CS-450       1.9 / ..    45    5.0       
CS-4500    ~ 4000       45    5.1       1986-
CS-4510    4500 + Heated handle       45    5.1       198?
CS-4600          45    4.9       1988-
CS-4601    ~ 4600          4 ,?       
CS-4610          45    4.9       1988-
CS-4611    ~ 4610          4 ,?       
CS-500       2.86 / ..    49.3    4.9       ~ 201?
CS-5000          49.3    5.1    also in gray livery    ~ 1994
CS-510       2.6 / 3.5    49.3    5.1    also in gray livery    ~ 199? - 201?
CS-5100       2.6 / 3.5    49.3    4.9    Power (?) From Finnish BDA    
CS-525       2.6 / 3.5    49.3    5.1       ~ 2013
CS-520          50.1    4.9       
CS-530          50.1    5.1       
CS-550 P          54.1    6.0    US version    
CS-5500          54.8    5.5       1988 - min.1991
CS-5501       2.9 / ..    54.8    5.5       
CS-670          66.7    6 ,?    also in gray livery    ~ 199?
CS-6700          66.7    6.0    also in gray livery    1988 - min.1994
CS-6701       3,55 / ..    66 ,?    6.2       
CS-6702          66 ,?    6 ,?       ~ 2003
CS-6703       3.37 / ..    66.8    6.6       ~ 201?
CS-680       3.3 / 4.5    66.8    6.6       ~ 200?
CS-680 SEUSTD          66.8    6 ,?       ~ 2012
CS-6800          66.7    6.5       ~ 200?
CS-801             8th,?       
CS-802          80.6    8.6    without breaks    ~ 196?
CS-803          80.6       with brake    ~ 197?
CS-800                   
CS-8000          80.7    7.4    also in gray livery    1986 - min.1994
CS-8001       3.91 / ..    80.7    7.5       
CS-260 WES    Top Handle    0.91 / ..    26.9    2.9       ~ 2012
CS-360 ES    Top Handle    1.46 / ..    35.8    3.4       ~ 2012
CS-260 WES    Top Handle / Carving    0.91 / ..    26.9    2.9       ~ 2012
CS-271 T    Top Handle    ../ ..    26.9    3.0    US version    ~ 2013
CS-280 WES    carving    0.94 / ..    26.9    3.1       ~ 2012
CS-280 WESC    carving    0.94 / ..    26.9    3.1    catalyst    ~ 2014
CS-281 WESC    carving    1.09 / ..    26.9    3.1    catalyst    ~ 2014
CS-360 ES    carving    1.5 / ..    35.8    3.6       ~ 2012
CS-360 WESC    carving    1.39 / ..    35.8    3.8    catalyst    ~ 2014
CS-361 WESC    carving    1,49 / ..    35.8    3.8    catalyst    ~ 2015
CS-310 ES    Shindaiwa 305S    1.0 / ..    30.5    4.0       ~ 2012
CS-341    Top Handle    ../ ..    33.4    3.5    US version    ~ 2013
CS-352 ES       1.31 / 1.78    34.0    4.0       ~ 2012
CS-353 ES       1.59 / 2.16    34.0    4.0       ~ 2013
CS-355 T    Top Handle    ../ ..    35.8    3.6    US version    ~ 2013
CS-420 ES       1.6 / ..    40.2    4.6       ~ 2012
CS-450       1.9 / ..    45.0    5.0       ~ 2012
CS-490       ../ ..    50.2    4.8    US version    ~ 2015
CS-500P       ../ ..    50.2    4.8    US version    ~ 2015
CS-500 ES       2.1 / 2.9    50.2    4.8       ~ 2012
CS-501 SX    Shindaiwa 501 SX    2.57 / 3.5    50.2    4.7       ~ 2015
CS-510       2.6 / 3.5    49.3    5.1       ~ 2014
CS-525       2.6 / 3.5    49.3    5.1       ~ 2014
CS-550       2.5 / 3.4    54.1    4.9    Schichtspülverfahren    ~ 2012
CS-590    Timberwolf    3.0 / 4.0    59.8    5.9    US version    ~ 2012
CS-600    Shindaiwa 598    3.0 / 4.1    59.8    5.9       ~ 2012
CS-600S       3.0 / 4.1    59.8    5.9       ~ 2014
CS-605       3.0 / 4.1    59.8    6.0       ~ 2014
CS-610       3.0 / 4.1    59.8    6.0       ~ 2012
CS-620       3.4 / 4.6    59.8    6.2       2013-
CS-620SX       3.4 / 4.6    59.8    6.2       2014-
CS-680       3.3 / ..    66.8    6.6       ~ 2012
CS-8002       3.93 / ..    80.7    7.6       ~ 2012
CS-800P       ../ ..    80.7    7.5    US version    ~ 2015
QV-670    rescue saw    ../ ..    66.7    6.9 =>    Weight with sword + chain    ~ 201?
QV-675    Rescue saw with Box    ../ ..    66.7    6.9 =>    Weight with sword + chain    ~ 201?
QV-8000    rescue saw    3.93 / ..    80.7    8.3 =>    Weight with sword + chain    ~ 201?
QV-8050    Rescue saw with Box    3.93 / ..    80.7    8.3 =>    Weight with sword + chain    ~ 201?


So far only a few information found with the echoes that have the suffix ".csv". In a CSV 451 on a picture the color compared to other echoes was striking down "echo-red" and above the "housing cover" and the carburettor cover gray. In the attached BDA CSV 391 and CSV 451 described together. Most of CSV, there should be with Walbro carburetors.
model    execution    Power kW / PS    cc    weight kg    remark    Manufacturing period
CSV 281                   
CSV 3201                   
CSV 3400                   
CSV 3401                   
CSV 3501                   
CSV 361                   
CSV 3701                   
CSV 381                   
CSV 391    CSV 451 similar                
CSV 3900          39.6    4 ,?       
CSV 3901          39.6    4 ,?       
CSV 4000             4 ,?       
CSV 4401             4 ,?       
CSV 4500             4 ,?       
CSV 451    CSV 391 similar                
CSV 453                   

All statements without guarantee


Echo was older models no engine power!

Later, the performance have measured on the chain.

Power supply specifications? submitted by one side, the otherwise showed significantly different from other sites data.

Result: saws from other manufacturers, the measure without cutting attachment, see the paper better.


The data and rounding errors may occur because of metric data in US-like data (inch, inch, etc) and was converted inversely.

Production period only dare.


saw families

Saws, which are used legally, to be displayed for easier comparison.


ES means Easy Start device. This realizes Echo on Zündmodulelektronik. Depending on operating conditions governs this ignition timing optimally. Result: Simpler, easier starting and optimum combustion as possible during operation.


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Re: Echo Chainsaw History 1963-1986
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2016, 12:21:52 pm »
part 2

CS 3000, CS 303 T, CS 320 T

Here the Tophandle saws with 30.1 and 33,4cm³ displacement, which are the same with many components with one another.

Carburetor adjustment Carburetor without Limiter:
CS 3000: L: 1 5/16 -> H: 1 3/8

The CS 303 and CS 320 T T should already comply with the new emission standards.

The CS 320 T has a Shindaiwa Pedant: 320 TS.


echo    CS 3000    CS 303T    CS 320T
displacement:    30.1 cc    32.3 cc
Cylinder bore:    37 mm    3? mm
piston stroke:    28 mm    3? mm
Power :    kW (HP)    kW (HP)    kW (HP)
Idle speed:    ? 1 / min
Permissible engine speed with bar and chain:    10500 -
11500 1 / min    1 / min    1 / min
Ignition:    Principle: electronic CDI> Manufacturer:
Spark plug:    Champion CJ 7Y
NGK BPM 8 A
Electrode spacing:    0.6 to 0.7mm
carburetor:    Walbro WT
Weight (without cutting tool and supplies)    3.2 kg    3.5 kg


CS 300, CS 3000, CS 305, CS 340, CS 3400, CS 345, CS 3450

There is also an older CS 301 with 30,6cm³ displacement and without brakes! The following here should all have a brake.

Here the back handle saws with 30.1 and 33,4cm³ displacement, which are the same with many components with one another.

Carburetor adjustment Carburetor without Limiter:
CS 3000: L: 1 5/16 -> H: 1 3/8
CS 3400/3450: L: 1 1/4 -> H: 1 1/2


echo    CS 300
CS 301    CS 3000    CS 305
CS 306    CS 340
CS 341    CS 3400    CS 345
CS 346    CS 3450
displacement:    30.1 cc    33.4 cc
Cylinder bore:    37 mm    39 mm
piston stroke:    28 mm
Power :    kW (HP)    kW (HP)    kW (HP)    kW (HP)    1.2 kW (1.6 hp)    kW (HP)    1.42 kW (PS)
Idle speed:    ? 1 / min    ? 1 / min
Permissible engine speed with bar and chain:    1 / min    10500 -
11500 1 / min    1 / min    1 / min    10500 -
11500 1 / min    1 / min    10500 -
11500 1 / min
Ignition:    Principle: electronic CDI> Manufacturer:
Spark plug:    Champion CJ 7Y
NGK BPM 8 A    NGK BPM 8 Y    Champion CJ 7Y
NGK BPM 8 A
Electrode spacing:    0.6 to 0.7mm
carburetor:    Walbro WT
Weight (without cutting tool and supplies)    3.1 kg    3.2 kg    3.4 kg    3.3 kg    3.4 kg


CS 3500, CS 3501, CS 352, CS 353

Since this is relatively rare given so:

In the US the BDA CS 352 is:

Idle speed: 2500 to 3500R / min

Stall speed: 3900 to 4500R / min

Maximum speed: 11500 to 13000r / min


The difference between the CS 352 and CS 353 will be only the better exhaust cleaning means 352 catalyst, for those states that since pretend higher hurdles.


echo    CS 3500    CS 3501    CS 352 ES    CS 353 ES
displacement:    34.0 cc
Cylinder bore:    38 mm
piston stroke:    30 mm
Power :    1.3 kW (1.8 hp)    1.31 kW (1.8 hp)    1.59 kW (2.16 hp)
Idle speed:    ? 1 / min    ? 1 / min
Permissible engine speed with bar and chain:    1 / min    1 / min    1 / min
Ignition:    Principle: electronic CDI> Manufacturer:
Spark plug:       NGK BPM 8 Y    
Electrode spacing:    0.6 to 0.7mm
carburetor:    Walbro
Weight (without cutting tool and supplies)    3.6 kg    3.8 kg    4.0 kg


CS 350, CS 351, CS 355, CS 360, CS 361

There have been times an older CS 351 in the 70s with 35,2cm³ capacity!

The CS 360 was advertised with 36,3cm³?

The CS 360 was offered in 2015 with a bit more power than CS 361st


echo    CS 350TES    CS 350WES    CS 351WES    CS 355T    CS 360T    CS 360WES    CS 361WES
displacement:    35.8 cc
Cylinder bore:    39 mm
piston stroke:    30 mm
Power :    1.5 kW (2.0 hp)    1.48 kW (PS)    1.5 kW (2.0 hp)    kW (HP)    kW (HP)    1.39 kW (1.9 hp)    1.49 kW (2.0 HP)
Idle speed:    ? 1 / min    2,800 1 / min    ? 1 / min    ? 1 / min    ? 1 / min    ? 1 / min
Permissible engine speed with bar and chain:    1 / min    1 / min    13,500 1 / min    1 / min    1 / min    1 / min    1 / min
Ignition:    Principle: electronic CDI> Manufacturer:
Spark plug:          NGK BPMR 7 A
            
Electrode spacing:    0.6 to 0.7mm
carburetor:    Walbro    
Weight (without cutting tool and supplies)    3.4 kg    3.6 kg    3.8 kg


CS 360T, CS 370

Both saws I have both 35,8cm³ and 36,3cm³ Displacement found? After echo did with Shindaiwa together there was the saws 36,3cm³. Shindaiwa sister model: 363


echo    CS 360T    CS 370
CS 370ES
displacement:    36.3 cc
Cylinder bore:    ? mm
piston stroke:    ? mm
Power :    kW (HP)    1.4 kW (1.9 hp)
Idle speed:    ? 1 / min    2650 1 / min
Permissible engine speed with bar and chain:    1 / min    12,500 1 / min
Ignition:    Principle: electronic CDI> Manufacturer:
Spark plug:       NGK BPM 8 Y
Electrode spacing:    0.6 to 0.7mm
carburetor:    Walbro
Weight (without cutting tool and supplies)    3.6 kg    4.5 kg


CS 3600, CS 3700, CS 3900, CS 396, CS 4200

The 3600 and 3900 are the same in many components. This also applies to the successors CS 3700 and CS 4200th

The older saws have in the BDA no information about the idle and maximum speed:
Default: L + H => 1 to 1 1/4
If the carburetor is then set correctly, you can hear a slight four clocks at the idle maximum speed.

From my own screwdriver practice: Some CS 3900 will not run properly with interference-suppressed spark plugs. Particularly striking were with special fuel. Unsuppressed candle ran faultlessly in the saw.


echo    CS 3600    CS 3700
CS 3700ES    CS 3900    CS 396 SP    CS 4200
CS 4200ES
displacement:    35.8 cc    39.6 cc
Cylinder bore:    39 mm    41 mm
piston stroke:    30 mm
Power :    kW (HP)    1.5 kW (2.0 hp)    kW (HP)    1.89 kW (2.6 hp)
Idle speed:    ? 1 / min    2800 1 / min    ? 1 / min    2800 1 / min
Permissible engine speed with bar and chain:    1 / min    12,500 1 / min    1 / min    12,500 1 / min
Ignition:    Principle: electronically -> Manufacturer:
Spark plug:    Bosch WS 7 F, NGK BPM 6 A
Champion CJ 7Y    Bosch WSR 7 F, NGK BPMR 6 A
Champion RCJ 7Y    Bosch WS 7 F, NGK BPM 6 A
Champion CJ 7Y       Bosch WSR 7 F, NGK BPMR 6 A
Champion RCJ 7Y
Electrode spacing:    0.6 to 0.7mm
carburetor:    Walbro WT-88 WT-88A    Walbro    Walbro WT-118B    Walbro
Weight (without cutting tool and supplies)    4.4 kg


CS 4000, CS 4100, CS 450, CS 4500, CS 4600, CS 4601

If instead ..00 stands at the end of the model number ..10 the model has a handle heating.

Many components of the saws are equal. The piston and cylinder were there with 2 bore diameters.


echo    CS 4000
CS 4010    CS 4100    CS 450    CS 4500
CS 4510    CS 4600
CS 4610    CS 4601
CS 4611
displacement:    39 cc    45 cc
Cylinder bore:    40 mm    43 mm
piston stroke:    31 mm
Power :    kW (HP)    kW (HP)    1.9 kW (PS)    kW (HP)    kW (HP)    kW (HP)
Idle speed:    1 / min    1 / min    1 / min    1 / min    1 / min    1 / min
Permissible engine speed with bar and chain:    1 / min    1 / min    1 / min    1 / min    1 / min    1 / min
Ignition:    Principle: electronically -> Manufacturer:
Spark plug:    NGK BPM 8 Y
Champion CJ 6Y
Electrode spacing:    0.6 to 0.7mm
carburetor:    Walbro HDA    Walbro HDA
Zama C3
Weight (without cutting tool and supplies)    5.0 kg    5.1 kg


CS 500, CS 5000, CS 510, CS 5100, CS 525

Performance of the CS 5100 from Finnish BDA ISO 7293rd Similarly, many competitors are likely to measure the performance of their saws. Echo measures usually when ever making a power rating different. The "usual" echo value is below the ISO 7293!


echo    CS 500    CS 5000    CS 510    CS 5100    CS 525
displacement:    49.3 cc
Cylinder bore:    45 mm
piston stroke:    31 mm
Power :    kW (HP)    kW (HP)    kW (HP)    2.6 kW (3.5 hp) ISO 7293    kW (HP)
Idle speed:    1 / min    1 / min    1 / min    2,800 1 / min    1 / min
Permissible engine speed with bar and chain:    1 / min    1 / min    1 / min    13,500 1 / min    1 / min
Ignition:    Principle: electronically -> Manufacturer:
Spark plug:          NGK BPM 8 Y
Champion CJ 6Y    NGK BPMR 7 A
Champion RCJ 6Y
Electrode spacing:    0.6 to 0.7mm
carburetor:    Walbro ->
Weight (without cutting tool and supplies)    4.9 kg


CS 490, CS 500 ES, CS 500P, CS 501 SX

The CS 500 ES 2012 got a little more displacement due to the new emission standard than the "normal" CS 500th

The CS 490 was offered in 2015 to the US market for the semi-professional.

The CS 500P is available in the US since, 2015. The data for the speeds are from the Manual.

2015 brought echo with the CS 501 SX a saw with very good power to weight ratio in the "50cc class" that complies with the emission stage ST2. Shortly was the Echo CS 501 SX also available as Shindaiwa 501 SX in D.



echo    CS 490    CS 500 ES    CS 500 P    CS 501 SX
displacement:    50.2 cc
Cylinder bore:    4? mm
piston stroke:    3? mm
Power :       2.14 kW (2.91 hp)       2.57 kW (3.5 hp) ISO 7293
Idle speed:    1 / min    1 / min    2600 - 3000 1 / min    2700 1 / min
Permissible engine speed with bar and chain:    1 / min    1 / min    11500-12500 1 / min    13500 1 / min
Ignition:    Principle: electronic CDI -> Manufacturer:
Spark plug:       NGK BPM8Y    
Electrode spacing:    0.6 to 0.7mm
carburetor:    
Weight (without cutting tool and supplies)    4.8 kg    4.7 kg


CS 550

There are at least 3 Echo saws labeled CS 550, which differ:

The Old: CS 550 EVL with 54,7cm³ capacity differs markedly from the other two.

The US: CS 550 P

The film loader: CS 550


echo    CS 550
displacement:    54.1 cc
Cylinder bore:    ? mm
piston stroke:    ? mm
Power :    2.5 kW (PS)
Idle speed:    ? 1 / min
Permissible engine speed with bar and chain:    1 / min
Ignition:    Principle: electronic CDI> Manufacturer:
Spark plug:    
Electrode spacing:    0.6 to 0.7mm
carburetor:    Walbro
Weight (without cutting tool and supplies)    6.0 kg


CS 590, CS 600, CS 610, CS 620P

Shindaiwa sister models: 598 and 600sx

The 590 Timberwolf should be a semi-professional version of this series. But According to the US side, the same engine power as the CS 600 is about 1/5 cheaper.

The CS 620P is also available as CS 620PW with wrap handle. The CS 620 has 13% more power than the CS 600th


echo    CS 590 Timberwolf    CS 600
CS 600S    CS 605    CS 610    CS 620P
CS 620SX
displacement:    59.8 cc
Cylinder bore:    46? mm
piston stroke:    36? mm
Power :    3.0kW (4.1 HP)    3.4 kW (4.6 hp)
Idle speed:    1 / min    2600-3300 1 / min    1 / min    2400-3200 1 / min
Permissible engine speed with bar and chain:    1 / min    12000-13000 1 / min    1 / min    12600-13200 1 / min
Ignition:    Principle: electronic CDI> Manufacturer:
Spark plug:    NGK BPM8Y
Electrode spacing:    0.6 to 0.7mm
carburetor:    Walbro?    Walbro HDA ​​268    ?    Walbro?    Walbro HDA ​​316
Weight (without cutting tool and supplies)    5.9 kg    6.0 kg    6.2 kg


CS 670, CS 6700, CS 680, CS 6800

These models are available already relatively long. At times, even simultaneously in different sales regions. Again and again these very similar saws have been enhanced in detail.

Two color versions of the CS 670 and CS 6700 are known. Once the orange-red, and then in the 90's a gray variant. Also a rescue variant was offered in the US. The capacity varies on the decimal place?

The CS 680 and CS 6800 are the successors of the CS 670 and CS 6700th


echo    CS 670    CS 6700    CS 6701    CS 6702    CS 6703    CS 680    CS 6800
displacement:    66.7 cc or 66,8cm³
Cylinder bore:    mm
piston stroke:    mm
Power :    3.3 kW (4.5 hp)
Idle speed:    2,900 1 / min
Permissible engine speed with bar and chain:    12500-14000 1 / min see operating
Ignition:    Principle: electronic CDI> Manufacturer:
Spark plug:    NGK BPM 7A
Electrode spacing:    0.6 to 0.7mm
carburetor:    
Weight (without cutting tool and supplies)    6.0 kg to 6.6 kg


CS 8000, CS 8001, CS 8002, CS 800P

These saws with 80,7cm³ displacement have their roots developed more often in the 1980s and have been, but should be equal to each other in many components.


Carburetor adjustment for carburettor Walbro HDA ​​153B without Limiter:
CS 8001: L: 2 3/8 -> H: 3 3/8 Limiter to allow an adjustment from 2200 to 2800 1 / min and H 11500-12500 1 / min at L.


The ignition module of the CS 8001 is at:

1200 1 / min 10 ° BTDC, at

3000 1 / min 14,5 ° BTDC and

10000 1 / min 25 ° provide a spark BTDC.

This saw there were in the United States in the version QV 8000 as rescue saw.

From 2015 CS 800P was on the US market in the offer.


echo    CS 8000    CS 8001    CS 8002    CS 800P
displacement:    80.7 cc
Cylinder bore:    52 mm
piston stroke:    38 mm
Power :    kW (HP)    3.91 kW (5.3 hp)    kW (HP)    kW (HP)
Idle speed:    2500 1 / min
Permissible engine speed with bar and chain:    1 / min    12000 1 / min    1 / min    1 / min
Ignition:    Principle: electronic CDI> Manufacturer:
Spark plug:    Champion RCJ 6Y
Electrode spacing:    0.6 to 0.7mm
carburetor:    Walbro?    Walbro HDA-153B    Walbro?    
Weight (without cutting tool and supplies)    7.4 kg    7.5 kg    7.6 kg    7.5 kg



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Re: Echo Chainsaw History 1963-1986
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2016, 08:01:58 pm »
>Type Code:
>CS = chainsaw, the first two digits describe about the displacement - more than 100cc the first three.
>Saws with 3 or 4-digit model numbers were at times very similar in structure, with the same first three digits in different sales areas at the start.

Yes, I am sometimes mixed up with those model numbers which I can not find on the lists local shop has here.
On the contrary here I have CS-803EVL which number is just well known here at any Echo shop but did not see her on Mike's site neither in other lists on the net. Actually she may sits between the lines below, below CS 750 EVL but above CS 900 EVL.
 
>CS 601T EVL    Boxer Twin                ~ 198?
>CS 611T    Boxer Twin                ~ 198?
------
>CS-660 EVL          64.2    6.5       ~ 198?
>CS 750 EVL          78.6    8.5       ~ 198?
>CS 900 EVL          91.6    9.0       ~ 1981
>

Here is a link to this girl;
http://www.chainsawcollectors.se/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?p=201983#p201983

(McCulloch) PM6,PM320,SP40,PM484,10-10A,PM610,35A,47,300,450,PM800,1-70,1-80,740,740(mod),795,SP125C
(Echo) CS-302,CS-502EVL,CS-60S,CS-601S VL,CS-803EVL,CS-803EVL(mod),CS-651T
(Homelite) DM 50,Super Mini S,Super XL-9225,Super 1050
(Partner) 1614/Mini P,R417T,S55,R14T,R12,R12,K12S,
(Stihl) MS-180C,08S,070AV,084AV
(Shindaiwa) Pecker A110,E305AV
(Dolmar) 123,PS 7900
(Jonsereds) 49SP,455
(Husqvarna) 550XP
(Tanaka) TCS-33EDTP
(Makita) EK-900
(Alpina) A40
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