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Re: echo 4500 john deere 450
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2012, 03:10:16 pm »

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Re: echo 4500 john deere 450
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2012, 03:31:31 pm »
I do not own any echo's but it is not a bad looking saw.    Wow close call on the kick back.   Chain brakes do work.
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Re: echo 4500 john deere 450
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2012, 03:39:33 pm »
I do not own any echo's but it is not a bad looking saw.    Wow close call on the kick back.   Chain brakes do work.

I'm learning as I go with the echos.

Some pretty impressive saws to be had at reasonable prices IMO.   

Yep on the kickback  :o 

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Re: echo 4500 john deere 450
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2013, 06:09:11 pm »
#2 just got looked over real quick. Back bar stud **** the case and loose. Might redneck, if not I will split and send to 3000 FPS

Pics if needed? I was told this was a problem area on these.

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Re: echo 4500 john deere 450
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2013, 04:31:13 pm »
From what I understand this is a common issue on these. Weak bar stud area cracking from abuse maybe.





This one had taken a fall and broken and bent the muffler studs off in cylinder. Dont know if this fix is going to work by past owner or not. Will see when all the parts show up. Muffler, muffler bolts, gasket, etc.






Appear to be a earlier version then my other 450V. It just had a hand guard instead of the chain brake like my other one. Hand guard on 2nd one was broken off in fall.






Really like the piston and cylinder on these. No wonder they run so good.



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Re: echo 4500 john deere 450
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2013, 06:14:29 pm »
The tops of Heli Coils are supposed to be a half turn below the surface?

If you have trouble with them backing out?

If you do, you are going to need to do the bottom tap trick?
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Re: echo 4500 john deere 450
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2013, 07:54:43 pm »
The tops of Heli Coils are supposed to be a half turn below the surface?

If you have trouble with them backing out?

If you do, you are going to need to do the bottom tap trick?

Thats the way it came in box.  Looks iffy to me  but will know more soon enough.

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Re: echo 4500 john deere 450
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2013, 08:28:28 pm »
From what I understand this is a common issue on these. Weak bar stud area cracking from abuse maybe.





This one had taken a fall and broken and bent the muffler studs off in cylinder. Dont know if this fix is going to work by past owner or not. Will see when all the parts show up. Muffler, muffler bolts, gasket, etc.






Appear to be a earlier version then my other 450V. It just had a hand guard instead of the chain brake like my other one. Hand guard on 2nd one was broken off in fall.






Really like the piston and cylinder on these. No wonder they run so good.





Take another picture but back away alittle so I can see more of the bar studs and get a better idea of where the crack is.

   I like that cylinder and piston also.   Closed port with a windowed piston pretty cool.   
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Re: echo 4500 john deere 450
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2013, 07:05:30 pm »
Take another picture but back away alittle so I can see more of the bar studs and get a better idea of where the crack is.

   I like that cylinder and piston also.   Closed port with a windowed piston pretty cool.   

Ran out of time today. Will do someday soon. 


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Re: echo 4500 john deere 450
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2013, 04:04:48 pm »
Roger if you can see it there is even cracks around the bar tensioner at the rear part.   ???  Hopefully one of these 4 pics will show something.





 

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