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Re: XL 12 questions
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2013, 12:25:29 pm »
Awesome!!! Did everything you said and put some no smoke oil mix in, saws run much better now! But bar oil is running down the bows, looks like it isn't sealing right, any tips?

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Re: XL 12 questions
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2013, 03:54:13 pm »
aaron,
i've been hearing for years now that hardware store coil extension springs can be used for bar spacers. for the life of me i still can't figure out what you're talkin bout. got any pix for a simple minded OF?
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Re: XL 12 questions
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2013, 06:10:49 pm »
I saw one on this site a couple weeks ago posted by cut4fun.  It was a picture of a bar on a chainsaw and you could see the flat wire spring wound one direction around the front bar stud and the other direction around the rear stud.

It was possibly a purchased spacer? But you could just use a couple coils from a spring around each stud for a spacer?
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Re: XL 12 questions
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2013, 08:36:36 pm »
aaron,
i've been hearing for years now that hardware store coil extension springs can be used for bar spacers. for the life of me i still can't figure out what you're talkin bout. got any pix for a simple minded OF?

I'll have to shoot a couple pics.  Basically you cut one 'eye' end off of the spring, and then count 4 coils down, and then cut the rest off.  You then count another 4 coils down and cut again.  You end up with two short 'tubes' of coil spring that you slip over the bar studs.  You want 'em to be just a bit narrower than the bar.  These spring spacers were also sold with some McCulloch saw bars that were intended for use on both 10-series and large frame Macs.
-Aaron

For older saws:
Tune the H side so that it 4-strokes (burbles) at WOT unloaded and just cleans up when under load.
When you lift cutting load, the saw should immediately revert to 4-stroking.  Fine tune the transition point for the wood you're cutting.

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Re: XL 12 questions
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2013, 08:42:18 pm »
I saw one on this site a couple weeks ago posted by cut4fun.  It was a picture of a bar on a chainsaw and you could see the flat wire spring wound one direction around the front bar stud and the other direction around the rear stud.

It was possibly a purchased spacer? But you could just use a couple coils from a spring around each stud for a spacer?

Jim you're referring to the 'S' spacer.  These were sold with UXL mount Windsor bars.  Also cataloged by Poulan and Homelite.  I have those part #'s if anyone's interested.  They were used on saws such as old Poulans and early XL-12 saws that had 5/16" bar studs.  Some fellows have made reproductions of this 'S' spacer from wiper blade spring.




-Aaron

For older saws:
Tune the H side so that it 4-strokes (burbles) at WOT unloaded and just cleans up when under load.
When you lift cutting load, the saw should immediately revert to 4-stroking.  Fine tune the transition point for the wood you're cutting.

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Re: XL 12 questions
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2013, 09:04:55 pm »
Yes, that is what I seen on here
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Re: XL 12 questions
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2013, 09:26:42 pm »
i've been using wiper blade stiffeners. just curious about the springs for when i run out of blade stiffeners.
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Re: XL 12 questions
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2014, 01:37:56 am »
i've been using wiper blade stiffeners. just curious about the springs for when i run out of blade stiffeners.

Jerry I'll shoot a pic or two of 'em in the next day or two.  Hopefully I'll remember.  That reminds me..........you need an XL-12 gas/oil tank right?  I've gotta remember to put one aside for you.  Was your saw a 'wick' or 'regular fuel filter' type?  Wick saws have a copper tube sticking out of the tank that the line from the carb attaches to.

Got to pull parts for 3-4 different guys this week/weekend.  Was there anything else from the XL-12 that you needed?  I don't think I have any more spikes (think you'd mentioned that).  Your saw's blue right?
-Aaron

For older saws:
Tune the H side so that it 4-strokes (burbles) at WOT unloaded and just cleans up when under load.
When you lift cutting load, the saw should immediately revert to 4-stroking.  Fine tune the transition point for the wood you're cutting.

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Re: XL 12 questions
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2014, 01:21:35 pm »
aaron,
yeah i need a tank. have a blue saw. don't know about the wick vs. filter cause i'm not close to my saw and haven't had a chance to take pix yet. be a week and a half before i can answer that. all i know is that  based on the serial number, 2079830, its a pre-1970 saw. i'll let you know about other parts after i hear the status of what jerry's sending. thanks much,
jerry
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Re: XL 12 questions
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2014, 08:23:35 pm »
I never gave a thought about 5/16" bar studs but have done 3/8" to I think it's 12 MM slots for using Stihl bars on larger Homelite and McCulloch saws .If I get some time at work in the next few days I'll see what's available in steel  hydraulic tubing which might work for spacers .

 

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