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husqvarva 44 rancher won't run
« on: August 07, 2014, 10:58:17 pm »
My 44 rancher with a one piece phelon coil quit. I picked up a 84 model 44 with a 2 pc coil (surprise) for parts. So I figured I would have to change the fly wheel too. The fly wheel had 2 key ways. (surprise) The one being used  had a p stamped above it. I put them on my saw and now I have good spark  and it will not even attempt to run. I've tried both key ways.  How can it spark and not fire at all?  It ran great before the old coil died. I really like this saw and I want it to run again even though I already replaced it.

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Re: husqvarva 44 rancher won't run
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2014, 03:05:05 pm »
What is the SN on your saw?  SN will tell me the year model.  There are a bunch of coil/flywheel combos for 44's.  Should be a PN on your old flywheel.  I do 44's.
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Re: husqvarva 44 rancher won't run
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2014, 07:35:11 pm »
The saw I'm trying to fix has a serial number 1983020402.  My parts saw, that I'm taking the coil and flywheel from, has a serial number of 1984-015980. I'll post the PN for the flywheel when I get a chance to take it apart and look.  Thanks for your help.

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Re: husqvarva 44 rancher won't run
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2014, 10:23:32 pm »
OK here are the No. of the flywheels . The 83 is USA made 5016751 also 12162 also Nm 24-20  also phelon. The 84 (parts saw) sweden made. stamped on magnet 5018277-02 also ce-90-se-w also 420. Inside the back of the flywheel  5018275      v1-1.  If you can decipher this and explain it to me I would be grateful. Am I wrong to assume that if the fly wheel and coils are paired with each other they should work.  Or are the cranks keyed different? I appreciate any help. Thanks. Mike

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Re: husqvarva 44 rancher won't run
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2014, 10:53:56 pm »
1983 IPL & 1984 IPL shows cranks are the same.  Flywheels are different as well as coils.  Since cranks are the same coil matched to flywheel should work.
1983                                 1984
Crank 501-6150-02      501-6152-02
Flyw   501-6751-01      501-8277-02 (this fly 1984 up)
Coil    501-6791-60      501-5970-01 w/trigger ( same here on coil IIRC)
Hope this helps IPL's attached
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Re: husqvarva 44 rancher won't run
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2014, 12:38:15 am »
We  agree it should work. So what  else can be wrong. I put gas in the cylinder  not attempt to run , I take the plug out'. lay it across the hole and pull the cord and it will flash the gas. Unless it is sparking at the wrong time, it should run, not? Could 95 lbs. compression be to low? Why did it run till I lost spark from the original coil? Any one know why the 84 flywheel has 2 key ways ? and is the one marked with the P the right one to use?  I've enjoyed this saw for 3o yrs. but it is starting to tick me off.

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Re: husqvarva 44 rancher won't run
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2014, 08:28:03 am »
You found the problem 95 psi.  Piston is probably scored or ring is shot.  Comp on any saw needs tobe over 100 to even try to run.  Should be 150+ on a 44.  Pull muffler and take a look.  Just coincidence on the running.  Funny thing I've found is low comp motor will run/cut one day and next day won't even pop.  Bad news is pistons are no longer available (NLA) and nobody makes an after market (AM).  With machine work a 346 OE 42mm piston can be made to work.  Pistons pop up on Ebay occasionally (not very often).  If the piston is the problem post in wanted another member might have one or know where to get one.  Just remembered ther is a piston & cyl on Ebay now.  I've been watching it for a while.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/360939805853?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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Re: husqvarva 44 rancher won't run
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2014, 05:12:37 pm »
I'll take my muffler off and have a look, but maybe its time to let the dead rest. I very much thank you for your help.

 

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