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Offline Eccentric

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Re: 394
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2016, 02:34:00 pm »
Kevin I recently fixed a friend's 395XP with an intermittent hot restart (and sometimes cold start) issue.  Troubleshooted it to the ignition module.  Replaced the module and that cured the problem.

They're big saws for big wood.  A specialized tool these days.  Most pro loggers (except perhaps in a few regions) are using the 660/661/394/395 class saws far less than they used to (and instead are running 390XP/461/372XP/562XP saws most of the time).  A good 5ci class saw will handle 90% of what a 394/95XP will with less weight and strain on us, and wood that requires that last 10% of capability only comes up 1% of the time (if that) for most folks.  I use my 181SE far more than my bigger saws.............and I use my 65-72cc saws far more than the 181.  I'm no logger of course...
-Aaron

For older saws:
Tune the H side so that it 4-strokes (burbles) at WOT unloaded and just cleans up when under load.
When you lift cutting load, the saw should immediately revert to 4-stroking.  Fine tune the transition point for the wood you're cutting.
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Re: 394
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2016, 02:48:34 pm »
Aaron,
Yeah I know...scale was starting to get smaller when I quit loggin' in the middle 80's. I have kind of a unique rep here now as being the guy to call when there's a 'trouble' tree of huge girth that needs to come down in a specific direction. I also build fence for a lot of landowners that have property down to rivers. They usually have some stands of large trees that have been feeding off those water sources. Lots of gigantic cottonwoods and many pines. The cottonwoods break in the wind storms and they should have all been cleared out when they bought those properties, but they keep them because they're large trees.  Not very glamorous work compared to taking down the Doug Firs of lore, but it keeps me going with the saws.

I have muscle memory still from running the 2100, so weight isn't a problem all day. I suspect it's the same with a lot of old loggers. I miss using my ailing 2100 and have been in a bad mood since it quit working properly....but in a REAL bad mood about the cost of its parts these days.....basically just a collectors saw now. I just feel like the 394 would be a nice sub when I need a saw that big. I've got a bevy of older J'reds for the smaller stuff and really enjoy using them like the 80 & 90.

Kevin

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Re: 394
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2016, 03:33:47 pm »
Hello Kevin.  I was actually directing my last post toward the other Kevin (Cut4Fun).  I should have quoted his post in mine to prevent confusion.........especially since I posted right after your post instead of his...

I understand where you're coming from.  I am going to rebuild a 394XP to keep in the truck for big stuff.  We have some big oaks, DF, and Eucalyptus out here that I get into every now and then.  Mostly blowdowns.  Also have a 2101XP on the way that'll be used (occasionally) for the same thing.  I've been using my 288XP for these jobs, but a bigger saw with more bar would come in handy sometimes.
-Aaron

For older saws:
Tune the H side so that it 4-strokes (burbles) at WOT unloaded and just cleans up when under load.
When you lift cutting load, the saw should immediately revert to 4-stroking.  Fine tune the transition point for the wood you're cutting.
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Re: 394
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2016, 04:17:36 pm »
Aaron,
Sorry for the confusion/mixup.....good luck with your 394 rebuild.

Kevin