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Re: Husky Special 50 Still not starting
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2014, 12:54:44 pm »
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Re: Husky Special 50 Still not starting
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2014, 02:28:10 pm »
Sounds like it is not pulling fuel. Are you sure you have the diaphragms and gaskets in the carb in the right order? If backwards the carb will not pull fuel. They go in different order depending on which side of the carb you are working on.

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Re: Husky Special 50 Still not starting
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2014, 02:38:44 pm »
I used a you tube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRfKPhmAJ9o.  Followed it step by step; but I can always be wrong.  I will use the links you sent to double check my work.  That's what I was thinking, except it did start and run.  When it did, I let it run for about 5 minutes before I released the throttle, and then it died.  It restarted right away (three more times), but each time when the handle was released, it stopped.  That lead me to think it was choking out, or the mixtures were off.  When I went to it a couple of days later (today), it was back to not starting again.

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Re: Husky Special 50 Still not starting
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2014, 03:15:50 pm »
     Howdy,
   When you disconnect the line at the carb, do you have fuel?
   As far as starting goes, 50's have a funky choke system. It has a slide in the top cover that uses a piece of spring steel to partially collapse the air filter thereby covering the intake opening, and causing the choke. Take the top cover, and air filter off. Place your thumb over the intake opening when you crank the saw. If it primes and starts, you have a choke issue.
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Re: Husky Special 50 Still not starting
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2014, 10:53:28 am »
KilliansRed,
Checked carb assembly  - all good.  I am baffled.  Rechecked the screws, all good. Put fuel in carb, she starts after w or 3 pulls; then just craps right out.  Other than doing a total rebuild or buying a new carb, I am out of ideas.  What do you think?

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Re: Husky Special 50 Still not starting
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2014, 11:17:25 am »
Did you try what Grande Dog suggested in the previous post? What he is suggesting is systematically eliminate each part of the fuel delivery system starting with the fuel supply. Disconnect the line from the carb and turn the saw onto the clutch side to see if fuel flows. If fuel can flow from the tank when not connected to the carb you know that the pick up hose is not kinked. If fuel does not flow then it is either a kink in the line or the tank vent is blocked. If when you try this fuel does not freely flow out the line, then open the tank cap, if fuel flows then it is most likely that the vent is clogged.
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Re: Husky Special 50 Still not starting
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2014, 11:31:05 am »
Yep, fuel flow is steady with cap on.  Also, I did cover the port with my thumb when I had it briefly running and it choked it right out.  Tried with the cover on and filter mashed; tried it with the cover and filter off.  Result is always the same.

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Re: Husky Special 50 Still not starting
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2014, 12:22:36 pm »
OK, so now we know that the problem is beyond the tank and fuel delivery from the tank to the carburetor. We will leave the carb internals alone for now since you just put a diaphragm kit in it. The carburetor is essentially a pump, it uses pressure from the spinning engine to pump fuel from the tank and delivers it to the engine.

There is what is called  a pulse tube that connects the engine to the carburetor, in the case of the 50 Special this tube is built into the heat shield (501 77 11-01) it is the rather pointed tube that protrudes from the cylinder side of the heat shield. (See attached picture). There are two rubber parts that connect the heat shield to the cylinder that are notorious for failing. They are ( 503 16 16-02 induction pipe) and ( 503 31 07-51 pulse grommet), there is also a carburetor gasket (501 77 00-02). The pulse grommet for the 50 Special is NLA however I believe that the grommet from a 50 Rancher will also work (505 31 07-51).
 
If the grommet is bad (or missing!) between the cylinder and the heat shield you will not get enough 'pulse' to draw fuel. Like wise if the gasket between the heat shield is not aligned properly with the carb side of the heat shield the pulse will not get to the carb and pull fuel. If you look closely at the engine side of the carb you will see a small hole in the front face of the carb (pulse inlet) this must not be blocked, the gasket also has a small hole that must be situated such that it does not block off the pulse inlet to the carb otherwise no fuel!
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Re: Husky Special 50 Still not starting
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2014, 12:47:26 pm »
So, by now you should know where this is going. If there are no problems with the tank and its' fuel lines or vent and there are no problems with the pulse getting from the engine to the carb: then the only thing left is the carburetor itself.
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Re: Husky Special 50 Still not starting
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2014, 05:34:13 pm »
Hi, brand new member here-
Does anybody know if the OP solved his problem? I have exactly the same saw and problem; changed the carb, fuel line, filter etc; saw starts, runs 5-10 seconds and then dies out of fuel. It will start up again in a few minutes with the same results.  Once it ran and cut for 15 mins, thought it was good and shut it off, problem returned. Sounds like I should go to the pulse tube next?

 

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