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Re: new 450 not oiling chain
« Reply #60 on: June 23, 2014, 08:36:00 pm »
The guy at the chainsaw shop gave me a 1997 Dolmar 111i. It didn't run correctly, the carburetor was bad but it was the oilingest thing I had ever seen.

The bar had the old style 5/16" hole but I eventually figured out that it was a .058 bar with a .050 chain.

I put a new .050" bar with the tiny angled hole and with a new .050" proper chain and it hardly oiled at all.
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Re: new 450 not oiling chain
« Reply #61 on: June 23, 2014, 11:30:09 pm »
It has the factory bar on it but, a new different bar might improve the flow.
Good idea, thanks!

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Re: new 450 not oiling chain
« Reply #62 on: June 23, 2014, 11:39:31 pm »
I drill out those little holes all the time.
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Re: new 450 not oiling chain
« Reply #63 on: June 24, 2014, 12:45:41 am »
You mean the EPA hole? If it was up to them there wouldn't be any bar oil.
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Re: new 450 not oiling chain
« Reply #64 on: June 24, 2014, 12:49:44 am »
The oiler is going to pump a certain amount oil.   I can have go where I need it or have dripping down the side of the crank case or clutch cover.   I would prefer the bar to catch as much of that oil as possible.
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Re: new 450 not oiling chain
« Reply #65 on: June 24, 2014, 07:14:44 pm »
I'll bore out the hole and/or make one on each side of it on one side of the bar and see if it helps. I didnt think of that.

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Re: new 450 not oiling chain
« Reply #66 on: July 20, 2014, 10:01:43 pm »
oh I did drill out 2 additional ports beside the factory one on the bar... it did actually help a great deal. now it uses more oil and its not dribbling out in odd places.

It would seem, as the chain stretched and broke in the oil hole had become almost off the oiling output slot. it was right on the end if not almost covered by the bar.

adding a few more holes did help. Not as much output as I would like but far better than it was.

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Re: new 450 not oiling chain
« Reply #67 on: October 27, 2014, 12:26:35 am »
Hello all, didn't want to 'dig up' and old thread, but since this one is just from a few months ago and pretains to the same 'problems', I thought it was best just to reply here.

I also bought a Husqvarna 450 just a couple months ago, and I to have been having a heap of trouble with it.

I haven't ran more than 5 or 6 tanks of fuel through this saw, its basically brand new. Bought it from a local Husky dealer on a saturday (they were the only saw dealer open that day...) Found out later, that they ripped me off for about an extra $60 above retail price...  >:(
Only reason we purchased a husky, is because we had one before many years ago, and it was a great saw, worked great, lasted a long time, and never required anything more than regular normal maintenance.

Anyway, at first the saw worked ok, but didn't have the power I would expect from a 50cc/3.2hp
Each time I used it, things just got worse. And No it was not from a dull chain, I sharpen my own chains and keep them sharp. PLUS I put a brand new Stihl Pro 'Yellow' (not the 'green' low kick back 'homeowner') Semi-Chisel chain on it.

A few days ago, I was cutting and found that the bar was getting Really Hot, nearly hot enough to burn you if you held your hand on it. It made the oil smoke on the bar. Which I had been watching the oil flow anyway, and had tested often to see if I could get a streak off it. And it kept getting less and less.
Now, it hardly puts out any oil at all. Dumped the Stihl oil out, and replaced it with the 'classic' brand stuff they sold me with the saw, which seems to be thinner. Was able to get a little to sling off the chain, but not near enough. Note that I also cleaned the bar, oil holes, and oil slot several times during this.

Sharpened my chain while I was at it. And then tested it on some firewood rounds about 8-10" in diameter. It was cutting a little better, bar wasn't AS hot, but the oil flow still just wasn't what it should be. Then on the 5th or 6th cut, the chain locked.
 
So I put it in the vise, and took the cover off, removed chain. Found that the front nose sprocket had completely seized in the stock husky bar. Couldn't turn the sprocket with anything, it just wouldn't budge no matter what. Agravated, took a propane torch and heated it, burning out what ever debris was in there, and with some effort, finally got it to turn, spun it around several times to clear it, and it turned freely again. Let it cool, re-greased it, tested saw again but still hardly no oil getting to the bar. And no, i don't expect the bar to last after doing that, don't like the husky bar anyway.

Removed bar, and ran saw, oil is just dribbling out the slot.

Sooooo... I'm getting ready to tear into it, and see if I could figure out why its not oiling.

And while I was doing some research, I found this thread. Which has already been helpful.

But I wanted to ask:
 Has anyone found 'THE' reason that these husky oilers keep failing??
Or at least what specific part of the oiler system is failing?

I mean this saw doesn't even have 10 hours of run time on it. And it seems to be the Exact same problem as the OP had. So this isn't just a 'one off' problem, it has to be a design issue of some sort, as it seems this is happening to multiple Brand New Husky Saws.
 
I'm also getting ready to order parts, including a new bar.

I was looking at the Oregon 20" Pro-Lite Chainsaw Bar (78 Drive Links) 200SLGK095 from bailieys.
Anyone have any opinions of the Oregon bars? I haven't used them before, but I know I don't care for the husky bars at all...

Also on oregon's website, it shows this bar needs an 8 tooth sprocket, I'm pretty sure the husky 450 comes stock with a 7 tooth. So I may also be upgrading to a rim sprocket while I'm at it.

Any input would be appreciated.

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Re: new 450 not oiling chain
« Reply #68 on: October 27, 2014, 06:57:12 am »
Man with only 10 hours run time and only a couple months old what about new saw warranty stick it in the dealers face he ripped you off let him fix it unless you have already dug into it and voided warranty

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Re: new 450 not oiling chain
« Reply #69 on: October 27, 2014, 10:47:31 am »
Man with only 10 hours run time and only a couple months old what about new saw warranty stick it in the dealers face he ripped you off let him fix it unless you have already dug into it and voided warranty

Hi Pete,
Yeah its pretty ridiculous having this kind of problems with a brand new saw that I paid over $400 for  >:(
I've never had this kind of trouble with a chainsaw, even some cheap brands that were a couple years old.

This local dealer is a joke, I just moved here about 7 months ago, and this was the first time I had bought anything from that place. And I did try to take this saw back before because of the power issue and also because they chain stops when you put any pressure on it, don't know if that is a weak clutch design or what. Needless to say they wouldn't do anything. They just give me this line 'once you bought it, its yours - we don't do returns', said they could look at it and see if there is a problem the warranty would cover, but if the warranty wouldn't cover it, then they would charge me when I picked up the saw. I'm not paying them another cent, and I will NEVER buy anything else from that place again, even if I have to wait a week to get something shipped.

I would take it to another husky dealer for the oiler problem though, but as Nyquil Junkie and a few others have stated the oiler is a 'wear item not covered by warranty'. So unless I want to pay $60 a hour... which there is no way I'm going to do that, I would much rather just fix it myself.

I'm mechanically inclined, and work on all the tools and engines I own. So I don't mind doing the work at all, I just like to know something about it before I get into an engine that is "new to me".

If I had to do it over, I would have waited until the following monday, and bought a Stihl from the local Stihl dealer here. I have since found him to be knowledgeable and very helpful, and kick myself for not going to his store first... but he was closed that day and I was in a hurry.

Wish I had known how bad husky had become, the only thing that is the same between this saw and the one we had before... is the name on the sticker.

If someone had demoed this saw for me (without a brand name on it) and I had used it some, I would have never believed it was what a "new husky" had become.
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