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Re: Oil Leak while sitting
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2022, 02:12:33 pm »
Perseverance paid off.  I removed the flywheel and then the carb and was able to take the engine out of the case.  It turns out the case is the lower have of the 2 cycle engine body.  The piston and crank have to be rotated to allow the crank to clear the case.  The carb has 3 very long screws to hold it to the engine.  There is a rubber bellows between the carb and engine, don't know what the purpose is for that.  Now the waiting game to get the replacement case.
It has been a learning experience.
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Re: Oil Leak while sitting
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2022, 09:15:32 pm »
That rubber bellows is the intake and is very common in chainsaw design.   It helps with any flexing that occurs with use. 
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Re: Oil Leak while sitting
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2022, 09:20:58 am »
Thanks for the insight.  Are there any hints on re-assembly?  Since the plastic case is the base of the engine and part of the overall combustion chamber, the seal is very important.  Should I do anything to make sure this is sealed well?

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Re: Oil Leak while sitting
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2022, 11:19:39 am »
I would get the piston and crankshaft installed into the cylinder half first then use a sealer like yamabond 4 or some other sealer that is fuel proof and then put the two halves together.  It does not take alot of sealer just a nice even thin coat.    Have all your screws ready to go to tighen down the two halves.   Also after assembly let it sit for about 24 hours to let the sealer cure.   Then you can finish re-assembly and fire it up. 
I always spread a thin coat of 2 stroke oil on the cylinder walls when putting the piston back in the cylinder.
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Re: Husqvarna 440 Oil Leak while sitting
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2022, 12:27:11 pm »
I used what stihl uses on clamshell saws still. Red Dirko HT. 

I still use my Threebond 1184 1194 on other stuff, just not clammys.

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Re: Husqvarna 440 Oil Leak while sitting
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2022, 07:08:41 am »
Yikes. I'd have declined this job also as the 440 isn't enough saw to warrant this much effort. And I'm a full time shop. How many hours do you have into this job?

Completely filling an oil tank really isn't the proper way to test for a leak. We fill the tank 2/3 with oil and let it sit overnight. If the tank is topped off, then the vent is covered and that will likely cause the saw to "push" oil. Big temp swings make this worse as the oil expands. Stored in a truck toolbox, shed or any place that will have a big jump in temp when the sun hits it almost guarantees a leak on a full saw. You might go through all of this and still have the same problem.
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Re: Husqvarna 440 Oil Leak while sitting
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2022, 08:40:18 am »
I agree, I should have stopped when the RTV did not stop the leak while sitting.  This leak was so bad that a 1/2 full oil tank would drain completely overnight. The crack must be in a spot that I could not get to with the RTV.
I just ordered the Honda4 sealant. That will not arrive until 5/23. 
Don't have a date for the new case yet and just because I had to use an impact driver to remove the engine screws I ordered new 4mm screws. I'm up to $97 in parts, I just hope I can get this back together and running so I can cover my expenses.


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Re: Husqvarna 440 Oil Leak while sitting
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2022, 07:41:59 am »
Did you quote a price for this work to the customer first? If so, then you must have quoted incorrectly, or did they customer just say 'get on and fix it' with no mention of cost?

This is a very labour intensive job, and I would have been looking at it thinking is this a mornings work, or a full days works or somewhere inbetween? A mornings work for me is 4 hours, so four hours labour plus parts minimum, should be enough for the customer think 'this isn't worth doing unless I do it myself' I would rather make money than work for nothing, so jobs like yours, that can also have hidden additional issues that may require more parts and labour I generally over quote to cover myself- if the customer says go ahead, then I am covered if he doesn't then I haven't lost anything as it would have cost me money to do it for less just to get the job.

Sometimes you have to say no, and be honest with the customer.

 

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