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Offline KilliansRedLeo

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This is a NOS 365 Special bottom end, Hyway 52mm BB kit with a Stihl 064 piston 8 tooth sprocket 16 inch .375x.050 chain. Blows 195PSI and will do 12,800 in the cut. Next it gets a MM and a Walbro RWJ-4-1 carb.
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Offline rayvil01

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That was me.  Seriously nice saw. Thanks for posting.

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Question(s):

Going all out on a saw like this, what is the expected 'life span' of the saw if used on a regular basis?(as in everyday for a worksaw-I'm on a saw handle maybe 6.75hrs a day cutting)

If it's not 'rude', what kind if cha-ching do you have in this one so far?

Lastly, got any video?  Would love to hear this one eatting a tree stump!



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Offline KilliansRedLeo

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Hey Scott! In answer to your questions I must first say that this is not a GTG toy or a stock class cookie cutter. It performs very well for what it is. All but a few of my customers are folks that make a living with their saws, so that is what I build 'Work Saws'. I can and sometimes do build ported run on the edge hot rods but only perhaps two or three a year.

This is as much performance as I can cram into a saw by using only off-the-shelf easily obtainable parts, that way should something go wrong you do not have to send it off to someone to get it repaired and wait. In the case of the one pictured it is mine. I just built it because everytime someone sees me running one like it they want to buy it, and that happens all the time. I think this is the fourth or fifth one I have built, all the others have been sold and have not come back. IIRC I had been running the one previous to this for about 3 years before someone just had to have it. I heat my shop with wood and I build furniture for a hobby so the saws get quite a bit of use.

I think that I have about 5-700.00 in this one. You can actually build these things yourself it is not rocket science. All it takes is a decent bottom end and the aftermarket parts (372BB Kit and the Stihl 064 piston). I look for raw gassed low hour saws as the base. I do all new  greater than 24000 rpm certified SKF or Nachi bearings, double lip seals, and just build the saw up from parts. I bought out a guy who was retiring parts inventory. This particular bottom end was a NOS 365 Special that he had been stealing parts off of for years. That is why it has the tag on it.

If you would like to build one I would be glad to help you do the work yourself.

Your biggest expense is going to be the four factory tools required to split the cases and put them together again.
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I did do a little grinding on the saw, matched the jug to the cases, so no steps in the TP area and got rid of the casting marks in the IP and EP areas. However that is it, no port timing changes. OBTW this saw runs a base gasket to adjust the squish because the Stihl piston is a wee bit taller than the one supplied with the BB kit. In this saw the 064 piston is from Meteor. I have built them using Stihl OEM 064 pistons however the additional cost of the OEM piston is not justified by any performance gain over the Meteor.
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Please make us a video of the saw. I would like to see the the 13800. in the cut.

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I will post a video as soon as I am able! No video camera yet! 13.8 was a typo should be 12.8 sorry.
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Very nice saw and it sounds like a tried and true combination.    Thanks for showing.
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'' OBTW this saw runs a base gasket to adjust the squish because the Stihl piston is a wee bit taller than the one supplied with the BB kit. In this saw the 064 piston is from Meteor''

I built the exact same saw, but with no base gasket, squish is .025.  Kinda interesting on the big variance of deck heights on these ( husqvarna) saws.  I see this a lot.

195 psi, is that with extra oil in the jug to seal the rings or just the premix?, I'm blowing 175 psi, with just pre mix, 

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The saw has an OEM Stihl 064 piston which is 1.3 or so mm taller in compression height than the BB 52mm piston in the Hyway BB kit. (0.03937x1.3mm=.05118) now if you subtract target squish of 0.020 you end up with .03118 so I had to add a gasket of 0.030 in order to get to my target squish of 0.020. I agree with you about the variance however every one of these that I do is different, my suspensions are that the variances we are seeing is in the cylinder/piston sets not so much the saws. The Stihl piston has a two ring design and on this saw I deleted the bottom ring, which I don't normally do, I did it just to see what would happen.

The saw has a tank or so through it and the compression was at 180 before it got run now is at 194-5.
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