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Re: Supplied timbersport saw 555 or 562XP??
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2012, 10:12:14 am »
11 tooth will not act up if you have sharp chain and rider set correct to the wood you cut.
9 tooth is good, but not on high bars as the wear gets funny after a bit of running and in so shortening the bars life.
There are bars that can handle it though. Usually the chain get a beating instead then.
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Re: Supplied timbersport saw 555 or 562XP??
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2012, 10:32:58 am »
11 tooth will not act up if you have sharp chain and rider set correct to the wood you cut.
What I was saying is I can push the 9T bar tip straight into the tree with the very front middle part of the tip. The 11T tip has to be started with the bottom front part to avoid reactive vibration.
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Re: Supplied timbersport saw 555 or 562XP??
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2012, 01:00:53 pm »
but I surely wouldn't want "Super Guard" noses on any (standard width) Power Match bars - must be very annoying when borecutting!

The total opposite Niko, someone has been passing  some bad information on to you. The Oregon Double Guard small radius nose bore cuts way better then the standard 11T nose. You can push the smaller nose at WOT "straight on" into the tree like a sabre , try that with the standard nose and it will be kick backing all over the place.
I see no difference in speed between the two also BTW.

Some day I'll learn to post a video and will put the demonstration of it on here. ;)

Well, I have never had any sort of issue/problem borecutting with 10 and 11 teeth noses (.325 or 3/8"), and I fail to see the point of starting "streight on". As soon as the tip is in there no longer is any real issue with kickback, and the pushback that may/will happen is easy to control.
I am sure that the boring itself will be faster (more effective) with a wider nose, as the chain is closer to cutting in a proper way at the tip.

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Re: Supplied timbersport saw 555 or 562XP??
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2012, 01:40:46 am »
but I surely wouldn't want "Super Guard" noses on any (standard width) Power Match bars - must be very annoying when borecutting!

Well, I have never had any sort of issue/problem borecutting with 10 and 11 teeth noses (.325 or 3/8"), and I fail to see the point of starting "streight on". As soon as the tip is in there no longer is any real issue with kickback, and the pushback that may/will happen is easy to control.
I am sure that the boring itself will be faster (more effective) with a wider nose, as the chain is closer to cutting in a proper way at the tip.


Yes Niko I was just explaining how smooth the smaller radius 9T nose does bore referring to your original comment of it "must be annoying".
"Straight on" boring is nice in smaller trees not offering alot of room directly behind the facecut  in the backcut area. The narrow bodied Windsor Mini Pro bar takes up even less space when bore cutting.
 I think the speed handicap reference comes from back in the day when sawchain was not designed as it is today. Since close to 10 yrs now the major 2 companies Oregon and Stihl have introduced the "anti-vibe" and "comfort" design,which by lowering the heel of the cutter makes the cutter tip backwards which in turn changes how the cutter attacks the wood and also reduces the tail of the cutter making contact in the borecut, making less interference and vibration.

On my 1/4" carving chains I "boat tail" the cutters by grinding the tail of the cutter at the top plate edge at an angle to improve bore cutting with my wee little dime tip nosed bars. I own Stihl 1/4" chain that already has that modification done in the factory [chain in top of photo].
The lower chain in the photo is unmodified Carlton.
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Re: Supplied timbersport saw 555 or 562XP??
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2012, 01:45:32 pm »
I messed up the below post, and it is too late to edit - the corrected text is in the quote;

Well, I have never had any sort of issue/problem borecutting with 10 and 11 teeth noses (.325 or 3/8"), and I fail to see the point of starting "streight on". As soon as the tip is inside the wood, there no longer is any real issue with kickback, and the pushback that may/will happen is easy to control.
I am sure that the boring itself will be faster (more effective) with a wider nose, as the chain is closer to cutting in a proper way at the tip.

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Re: Supplied timbersport saw 555 or 562XP??
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2012, 09:07:51 am »
I understand what you're saying Niko and you made some good points.
I was just making a point about the the smoothness of the 9T narrow radius nose starting and making the bore cut with todays Anti-Vibe/Comfort chains, and also the time saved starting the cut with the "straight in" approach making up for any loss of cutting time compared to the 11T nose.

Man that was a mouth full :D ;D
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Re: Supplied timbersport saw 555 or 562XP??
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2013, 05:35:48 pm »
Well the week of our festival has come. I just picked up these 3 beauties from my Husky dealer / sponsor this morning, at the same time I went to Waughs sawmill and picked up 2-spruce 16 ft 10"x10"s. Last pic is from about 4 festivals ago when my sponsor gave me these 576XP ATs for my competition, now retired for the 550XPs.
Husqvarna 550XPs born in the 900 count section of the 49th week of 2012. Sporting 18" -.325 H21 chisel chains. No Stihl Ultra mix in these saws, I'm running Husqvarna semi -synthetic and their own lo temp bar oil.
My dealer told me to run them in. Anyone here with some expert advice? Just run them in for the 5 min WOT as the manual says?
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Re: Supplied timbersport saw 555 or 562XP??
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2013, 07:39:21 pm »
I don't have a clue what would be best on a new saw because I've only owned one new one in my life time .On those rebuilds I run them a tad rich on fuel for a couple of tanks then lean them out and flog them like a borrowed mule .

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Re: Supplied timbersport saw 555 or 562XP??
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2013, 07:45:36 pm »
He dont have no choice on the 550 Al  ;).  I just run my 550 like I stole it and let the autotune do it's thing.

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Re: Supplied timbersport saw 555 or 562XP??
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2013, 08:12:37 pm »
Ooooh autotune .I'm lost in space again .

 

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