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Title: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun on August 19, 2012, 04:26:37 pm
Thinking about taking one in on trade. echo cs-670

Anyone with info running one etc?

 Decent firewood cutting saw? 

What bar length will it pull comfortably in hardwoods with 3/8?

How hard they on parts and is it hard to get parts. I  know the 8000 parts are  :o expensive.  So figuring this might hold over to the 670 too.
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: 660magnum on August 19, 2012, 05:44:30 pm
Current model is the 680  66.8cc 20", 24", & 28" bars

There's a Echo dealer between you and Bucyrus and another on 42 North edge of Mansfield.

The only bigger current model is the 8000

I have a older 50cc clamshell Echo and for that type of engine, it is made really well. Runs right along with the 52 cc Dolmars.

http://www.echo-usa.com/Products/Chain-Saws
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 19, 2012, 07:30:58 pm
Just saving info just in case.

Echo 670 IPL  http://s30387.gridserver.com/partsDiagrams/Echo%20CS-670.pdf

 Parts and prices.   http://www.ereplacementparts.com/echo-cs670-03001001-03999999-chainsaw-parts-c-35043_35970_36811.html

digging for info

CS-670

Engine Displacement: 66.7 cc
Engine Displacement (ci.): 4.07 ci.
Carburetor: Diaphragm
Ignition Type: Pro-Fire Electronic
SAIS2: Standard
Oiling System: Auto & Manual Override
Chain Brake: Standard
OPT Bar Length: 16" - 27"
Fuel Capacity: 22.5 fl. oz.
Oil Capacity: 13 fl. oz.
UL & CSA Listed: YES
Vibration Reduction System: Standard
Dry Weight: 14.3 lbs.

Model    CS-670    Engine
Displacement
(cc.)    66.7
Engine
Displacement
 (ci.)    4.07    Carburetor    Diaphragm
Pro-FireŽ
Electronic
 Ignition    STD    SAIS2    STD
Oiling
 System    Auto &
 Manual
Override    Chain
Brake    STD
STD Bar
Length
(in.)    20    OPT Bar
Length
 (in.)    16, 24,
 27
Fuel
 Capacity
(fl. oz.)    21    Oil
Capacity
(fl. oz.)    10.5
UL & CSA
Approved    YES    Vibration
 Reduction
 System    STD
Dry
Weight*
 (lbs.)    13.2    Warranty    5 yr. consumer,
 1 yr. commercial
90 day rental

Betting the 14lb plus PHO is closer to being right.

Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: mountainlake on August 20, 2012, 06:09:07 pm

 I have a Echo 670 and a 044 Stihl, so close in cutting speed I can't tell, on a good scale the Echo is over 1/2# lighter.  The 044 revs higher but the 670 has more balls.  Steve
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: mountainlake on August 20, 2012, 07:03:06 pm
 New OEM pistin is $45  and the latest OEM cylinder with better porting is $75.   Steve
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 20, 2012, 08:09:44 pm
Man that all sounds good. I told him to send it so I could give it a look over. Thanks for input.

Is there any  difference in 6700 v/s 670 like updates etc.
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: mountainlake on August 22, 2012, 07:44:59 am

 Had the 044 and 670 out yesterday, the 044 was faster by 1/2 second in a 10 second cut.  I think the lastest cylinder has a little better porting, most likely room to raise the exhaust port on Echo saws. On a 6700  the newer cylinder needs to have the 670 intake setup as the intake is different.  Steve
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 22, 2012, 05:53:19 pm

 Had the 044 and 670 out yesterday, the 044 was faster by 1/2 second in a 10 second cut.  I think the lastest cylinder has a little better porting, most likely room to raise the exhaust port on Echo saws. On a 6700  the newer cylinder needs to have the 670 intake setup as the intake is different.  Steve

When ever this 670 or 6700 arrives I hope you dont mind if I pick your brain with my newbie to this saw questions. 

  I see the IPL showing the intakes. Thanks for bringing that up. I wouldnt have known.

Echo 6700 IPL   http://s30387.gridserver.com/partsDiagrams/Echo%20CS-6700.pdf

Echo 670 IPL  http://s30387.gridserver.com/partsDiagrams/Echo%20CS-670.pdf

Echo 6702  IPL  ???   http://s30387.gridserver.com/partsDiagrams/Echo%20CS-6702.pdf
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: mountainlake on August 26, 2012, 06:24:35 am

 I was just over on Bailys website, new CS680 P@C   $100  That should fit any 670 and a 6700 with a 670 intake.   Steve
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: Cut4fun on August 26, 2012, 10:32:33 am
Still isnt here but I was told it has 6700 on it and is grey. 

Do you know if all the mufflers in series will fit?  Was told it needs muffler replaced. So was wondering if 6700 and 670 mufflers are the same.
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: mountainlake on August 26, 2012, 04:08:34 pm
 I think they are the same , I'll check Mon for sure as I have both saws although my 6700 got the 680 P@C and intake on it now.    Steve
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 26, 2012, 04:21:56 pm
Did you get any pics of the 680 P+C compared to the 6700?  Is it like the new 8000 P+C compared to the early 8000 P+C differences?
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: sharkey on August 27, 2012, 09:22:20 pm
Steve,
Did your 680 P&C kit come with that odd crossed piston and single ring?       

Like the latest 8000 top end the 680 cylinders are coming with the quad port transfers and dome cut squish band/combustion chamber.  It seems they want to sell this top end as a set.  If you order just a piston you get a flat top.  At least that was what was coming earlier this year.  Ill try to get you some pics of the differences.   

One of the Echo dealers told me there were 6 different P&C combinations used on the 8000 since 1986.  8000 piston is not crossed like the 680 and continues to use two rings.
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: sharkey on August 28, 2012, 12:33:23 am
A couple pics of a 680 piston.
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: sharkey on August 28, 2012, 12:35:39 am
Its about velocity into closed transfers;
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: mountainlake on August 29, 2012, 05:57:08 am
 
 I think I got the flat top piston as I ordered the P@C separate, that new one looks good,   Steve
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: angry beaver saw service on August 29, 2012, 07:28:24 am
Took echo cs 670 for repair. Guy traded for a stihl 024.  He wanted a lighter saw. Took in with a 18" bar.  Not a good combo for this saw...heats and dulls the chain quickly.  Changed to 24" bar with half skip chain and cuts great. Good power, seems Alittle off balance...like the stihl 361 better, but overall good saw. I will be offering this saw for sale.
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: brokenbudget on August 29, 2012, 07:44:43 am
 :-\ heats and dulls the chain with an 18"? but is fine with a 24"/skip? :-\
something doesn't sound even close to right.
i'd figure that out before trying to sell it.
Title: Re: Echo 670
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 29, 2012, 02:37:44 pm
Was told I have a box delivered today. Should be the 6700 or a 505.  ;D

I'm going to run a 16" on this 6700 to start so I dont get the 18" to 24" deal  ???

I think running a 24" with full skip would be a good idea though on these from my readings though.   I will run a full comp 16" to 20" on mine when all said in done I hope.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 29, 2012, 03:44:51 pm
Took echo cs 670 for repair.  Good power, seems Alittle off balance...like the stihl 361 better, but overall good saw. I will be offering this saw for sale.

You can post for sale items here if you like in For Sale section.

If you have a online parts and saw shop you can use the where to buy online sub forum too.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun on August 29, 2012, 03:53:08 pm
Starts and seems to run good and has real good compression (just from feel starting).

I made sure to fatten up everything with the missing muffler to fire off an see.  :o  Can you say she sounded like a racesaw  ;D.

Looks like I will needing a few parts but no biggie.   

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/echo6700001.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/echo6700002.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/echo6700003.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/echo6700004.jpg)
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun on August 29, 2012, 04:32:23 pm
Was told this saw ran 24" bar all it's life and hadnt been started in years.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun on August 29, 2012, 04:38:42 pm
I have found at least 2 air filter set ups for these. This one has this.

Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: man of stihl on August 29, 2012, 05:31:09 pm
Do you still have a 372 to compare this saw too?
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun on August 29, 2012, 05:32:28 pm
Do you still have a 372 to compare this saw too?

I dont anymore (had a husky fire sale). I can get my hands on a 362xp 365 SP and 372 all stock if needed.  ;)
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 29, 2012, 08:14:59 pm
Do you still have a 372 to compare this saw too?

I dont anymore (had a husky fire sale). I can get my hands on a 362xp 365 SP and 372 all stock if needed.  ;)

Oh have a Poulan 4000 65cc and a Poulan 415 65cc to compare to too.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: mountainlake on August 30, 2012, 05:51:04 am

 These saws handle real nice with a 20" setup, as mentioned above if it didn't cut with a 18" setup some was wrong with the chain or bar, most likely the rakers too high.  These saws have the torque to handle a agressive chain.  Steve
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 01, 2012, 04:50:11 pm
Looking for max rpm specs on this saw. Right now I have it at 12K and just shy of 1 turn out on H with my 100% synthetic Klotz at 32:1.
Manual says L  1 1/2 to 2 5/8 out I settled on 1 1/8 -   H says 1 5/8 to 2 5/8 out and I went with just shy of 1 turn out to get  12k.  True the carb might need a kit and had sat for years before I got it.

Manual also says CAUTION always tune H side at least 1 5/8 out.  ???  It aint happening she would be so fat it would be a pig. Use commons sense on tuning IMHO.

Echo 6700 owners manual http://www.echo-usa.com/getattachment/b21c69b9-244a-4ed4-951c-236ca98d5825/CS6700e_112597.pdf

Also never seen this in print before on sprocket rims wear.  When sprocket has worn out 0.5mm or .020 inch or more replace rim. Measured from top of rim to worn down area.

Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: 660magnum on September 01, 2012, 04:57:39 pm
If you let them rim wear too much, the chain drive links will start stick through the rim and riding on the hub. The drive links will make cavities in the hub eventually.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 01, 2012, 05:31:56 pm
Rain stopped so I got to do some test cuts.

Bucked some black walnut and ripped cut with 20" full comp in hard maple and soft spruce.  Reminds me of the husky 365 special cut wise.    Modified clutch cover was made for noodling  :D :D :D

I was impressed with this 67cc echo for sure  ;D. RPM WOT ended up 12.3k after the testing. Like it where she is at right now.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/670echotest20003.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/670echotest20005.jpg)



Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 01, 2012, 07:29:58 pm
If you let them rim wear too much, the chain drive links will start stick through the rim and riding on the hub. The drive links will make cavities in the hub eventually.

To show what 660 is talking about.

I know this works for the 3/8 7T rims. Dont know about all the other in 325 404 or 3/8 8T

This is the worn 3/8 7 that came off the 6700 and you can see wear the drive links were contacting the clutch drum.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/670echotest20008.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/670echotest20011.jpg)

Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 02, 2012, 10:46:20 am
mountainlake  did I read right a 8000 carb is a straight bolt on to the 6700 or is 670?  Not that I am going to do that to this stock 6700, cuts fine the way it is IMO.

Just thinking for the guys that woods port and want more carb.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: mountainlake on September 04, 2012, 06:00:07 am
 
 I had to file a bit on the elbow the air cleaner mounts on as the choke wouldn't close.  I don't think the 8000 carb helped much as I now have a couple other 670 saws that run just as good, should help with a port job.    Steve
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun on September 06, 2012, 01:36:44 pm
Just seeing if I can broaden my search on the clutch cover mainly right now and brake handle. 

Is it only 6700  670 and maybe 680 that fit this saw or is there some smaller saws that might fit too?  Lot of them look the same in pics is why I am asking.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: mountainlake on September 09, 2012, 06:59:29 am
 
 I think the studs are farther apart on the 670 than on a 520, might be the same as a 8000.  I'll check    Steve
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun on September 09, 2012, 11:21:09 am
I'm thinking echo 5500 has some parts that swap.    ?
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: mountainlake on September 09, 2012, 06:16:44 pm
 I'll check out the 5500 also, nice saws.   Steve
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: mountainlake on September 21, 2012, 05:37:12 pm
  I finally checked the clutch cover on the 5500, looks the same as the 6700,  670.    Steve
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 24, 2012, 04:42:38 pm
I have a 670 clutch cover with tensioner in the cover in route. When did they start doing that on the 670 run? Mine being 6700 is in case but I'll just remove that one.

Also I'm just hitting a bad having to repair streak right now. Was getting 6700 ready for a test drive with a 20"  I put together for a buyer and dang if the right side handle to motor mount didnt break into.

Hopefully the av might be the same on 6700 670 680 and make it easier on me finding a used one.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 24, 2012, 05:10:12 pm
Never mind on the av question. I see the 6700 and 670 use different av mounts in that area.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: mweba on November 04, 2012, 06:51:08 pm
No idea on the tensioner.  Never worked on one.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun on November 11, 2012, 04:41:58 pm
No idea on the tensioner.  Never worked on one.

Put the 670 clutch cover with side tensioner I got in trade.  I like  ;D 
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: sharkey on November 16, 2012, 02:21:01 pm
FWIW, The 5500 was offered with a 24 inch bar using .325 skip chain.  I wonder how that set up would work on your 6700?  6700 recoil, top cover (plug in air filter) and clutch cover are the same as gray 5500.  5500 has a 1mm shorter stroke over the 6700 so the cases should also be the same.  5500/6700 Bore and stroke 46x33 vs 50x34.  May be just the difference in piston height or skirt length or it may be a different crank altogether.
  http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/ebf7295be9b916f788256d0d001faa57?OpenDocument

http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/337b4ff7f57740b788256d0d001fc1dd?OpenDocument
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 26, 2013, 12:45:59 pm
Muffler modded the echo 6700 67cc.  Feels alittle better in the cuts.   

Have poulan 415  65cc and a friend has husky 365 special 65cc and husky 362xp 63cc  I could compare to using same chain on all. 
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: 660magnum on August 26, 2013, 12:51:29 pm
We ran the Echo 67cc against the Dolmar 6800i.

The Echo was a lower RPM torquer with a 8 pin rim and the higher rpm Dolmar had a 7 pin. The cuts were pretty close though.

The Echo is a likable woods saw
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 26, 2013, 01:22:12 pm
We ran the Echo 67cc against the Dolmar 6800i.

The Echo was a lower RPM torquer with a 8 pin rim and the higher rpm Dolmar had a 7 pin. The cuts were pretty close though.

The Echo is a likable woods saw

I recall running the older echo 702 70cc against the dolmar 6800i.  Not the echo 6700, Jim.

702 orange with horizontal cyl and the 6700 is a grey saw with vertical  style cyl.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: 660magnum on August 26, 2013, 01:51:10 pm
OK, I got them mixed up.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on December 22, 2013, 06:36:19 am
the 6700 is a grey saw with vertical  style cyl. it whas also sold as orange/black ;)
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun on February 11, 2014, 03:49:13 pm
Found another 670 clutch cover with side tensioner and brake handle to put on the 6700.
 Now I have a extra nicer 670 clutch cover without brake handle and a 6700 clutch cover missing bottom 3rd and no side tensioner.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: JC360 on March 19, 2014, 10:50:06 pm
Howdy! First post over here.
my next project is a straight gassed cs 670. Does anyone know where i can find a piston or P/C if I cannot clean up this cylinder?
Can/should I use 6700 or 680parts?
I would prefer to use OEM if possible .
I have looked on fee bay, but was wondering if there are better options.
Thanks!

Jeff
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 20, 2014, 02:42:35 am
There is indeed, have a look here or ask him: http://store.chainsawr.com/collections/echo/piston-cylinder
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Ore this one OEM : http://www.echopartstore.com/pages/OemParts#%2fEcho_%2f%2f_Shindaiwa%2fCS-6700_Type_1E%2fCrankcase%2c_Cylinder%2c_Engine%2c_Piston%2f553%2f4573
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: countryhog on March 21, 2014, 11:34:59 am
just got a cs660evl. needs a carb  build but did get it to run. wondering how similar it is to the newer 670, 6700? anyone got any ideas. also, i hear the electronic ignition on the 660 can be troublesome and hard to get. any of the other saws that will swap ignitions?
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 21, 2014, 03:22:29 pm
Did ya had a look at the echo site? ::)
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: JC360 on March 21, 2014, 06:21:04 pm
Hi. Yes i had a look at the Echo site. I believe that it will probably be the best means of locating the necessary parts. I hope I do not n 8) need a cylinder! 130.00  :o
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 21, 2014, 06:44:01 pm
Hi. Yes i had a look at the Echo site. I believe that it will probably be the best means of locating the necessary parts. I hope I do not n 8) need a cylinder! 130.00  :o

I took a 6700 in trade awhile back. Put a clutch cover with chain brake on it, if interested. I just have a 18" on it right now.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: JC360 on March 21, 2014, 10:46:16 pm
Thnx for the offer, but I am hoping this 670 will be a runner soon. Tore it down tonight,  looks like a new piston and some aluminum transfer removal will be what is needed.
jeff
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 22, 2014, 04:11:39 am
Ok sounds good, so a new OEM piston it will be ;D
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: winland on May 15, 2014, 11:13:19 am
Picked up a gently used, clean CS-670 this morning.

has a 24" bar and a couple of usable chains


Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on May 15, 2014, 11:22:56 am
Chuck, that is a nice looking saw!  :o Tim
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: JC360 on May 15, 2014, 11:30:00 am
Has anyone done a base gasket delete on one of these? Just curious. Mine is going back togerher as soon as i get a cylinder.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 15, 2014, 11:39:50 am
Nice saws for the $$.  They wake up alittle with muffler modding.

 I dont do the base gasket removals anymore and never did on these.  So I cant help there. 
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: JC360 on May 15, 2014, 11:44:05 am
What do you do for your muffler mods. I might as well do it while its off the saw.:)
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 15, 2014, 12:07:27 pm
I pulled the OEM deflector and opened up the exit.   

Now if you felt like doing  alot of work there is a cage inside that could be removed.   Not me though.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 15, 2014, 12:11:21 pm
Here is what the inside of 6700 muffler cage looked like.  I dont see where removing cage would gain much.  By looking at the one on 6700 they seemed to flow freely.

Here is inside 6700 muffler.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/echo6700003.jpg[
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/echo6700004.jpg[
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: JC360 on May 15, 2014, 12:21:34 pm
Thats cool. I will open it up!
Going to order a new cylinder tonight, the old one was hiding alot of scratches under the transfer. O well, worth a try.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 12, 2014, 09:55:55 pm
Echo 6700 IPL carb kits at end.  http://s30387.gridserver.com/partsDiagrams/Echo%20CS-6700.pdf

HDA-76
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 10, 2015, 04:31:13 pm
Thought I would give the echo 6700 some attention today on some down time. Have a new carb kit already and was just comparing to a NIB echo 8000 carb I have on hand too.

6700 HDA 76  15.08

newer 8000 HDA 63 16.66         

Thought about slipping the 8000 carb on there but doubt it will make any difference in the stock saw with slightly modded muffler.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 10, 2015, 07:05:17 pm
I put the 8000 carb on for chits.  Didnt even get it to fire off  :-\. So checked spark. Hmmmm yep something was wrong. I think I may have it so flooded now will try another day. Also need to pull carb again to check 8000 kit. I remember pulling it apart way back when and cant remember putting it back ready to run or not.  :-[



Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 10, 2015, 11:05:33 pm
Damed, that sucks :(
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 11, 2015, 03:37:35 pm
Yep she was flooded.

Had a 18" 20" 24" to choose from and went with 18" for test cuts buried. Ran good.
 Dont know if I notice any difference with the 8000 carb but maybe there was in my mind. It's been a long time since I have ran this saw and know it was going to be needing a carb kit in the stock carb soon. 
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 11, 2015, 10:48:09 pm
Good deal Kevin.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun on September 12, 2015, 10:29:02 am
Think I am going to slip the 24" on it and see.  It just seems more feisty in the cuts now. Could just be my imagination too. 
I may leave the 8000 carb on it and offer it for sale to a local if he trades his other saw in.  Hmmm I wanted to keep this one for myself but I have so many others to use in the cc class.  :P

Hmmmm may see if it can run with my PP415   :-\
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 13, 2015, 03:32:46 am
will look out on the video ;D
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 13, 2015, 09:26:05 am
I dont do video anymore so dont hold your breath. Then again you never know if I compare the 415 6700. ;)
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on September 13, 2015, 01:27:00 pm
+1
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 14, 2015, 02:19:30 pm
Picked up a gently used, clean CS-670 this morning.

has a 24" bar and a couple of usable chains




Man I just noticed your 670 has about twice the height air filter cover and filter then my 6700.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 10, 2015, 06:03:05 pm
Going to try and make a video with my other camera on video mode. Will do the 6700 and 415 using same chain in same wood. 
Same wood I just shot the echo 4500 3900 with the ps ps3 chain.

I didnt care for the sony cam I just used with all the software I had to load on puter to use. Just want to see if this fuji will be easier on my brain to do.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 11, 2015, 06:58:33 pm
https://youtu.be/vHm7aHP67po
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 11, 2015, 07:50:04 pm
I'll be pulling this 8000 carb back off after running dry. It was a new in the box carb.  Going to rebuild the 6700 carb and put back on.
Just not enough there to justify keeping on this stock saw.
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 11, 2015, 07:56:33 pm
This 6700 has the stock oem carb back on it. Checked carb over and didnt even need a kit.

Trade for?
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: sharkey on December 12, 2015, 06:40:36 pm
I cant figure Echo out.  The early 6700's came with a Walbro HDA-47 carb, which is identical to the HDA-63 except for the length of the H/L adjustment screws.       

Over the last 10 years Echo has gone to smaller carbs on all of their saw engines.  The lone exception has been the cs-620 which went to 15.8 V over the 15.0 V on the 590/600p. 

The new 8000 (800p) comes in with a 15.8mm V carb?  HDA-153 is shown for the final version of the 8000 with HDA-324 listed as the new 800p carb.  Both are 15.8 V with the difference being the fast idle is on the choke pull of the newer carb.  Why would Echo spend the time and money engineering a new cylinder and piston (quad port hemi head with the flat top domed piston) to then put a smaller carb on the engine?  Just doesnt make sense...

Echo has even gone as far as to sanitize their IPL;s, removing references to the HDA-45 or HDA-63 carbs as having been used on the 8000.  Take a look at the factory diagrams if you dont believe me.  Its only through Walbro that the references to these larger carbs are available.   

http://www.echo-usa.com/documentation.aspx?s=cs-800p&c=en-us         
Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: echofreak on May 14, 2016, 04:51:33 pm
Yes it will work several of the echo saws have that muffler,

Just purchased and confirmed fit on my cs-670

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Title: Re: Echo 670 6700 680
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 03, 2022, 09:48:54 am
@jbbbb fpound this in a spam email folder today. Says from you. = Mon, Dec 20, 2021, 9:27 PM Hi just got a mint cs 6700.. this is one of the early grey ones.. not a mark on it.. want to use it as a firewood saw.. needs a carb rebuild.. first and only owner let it sit on a self .. i can get it to fire.. wont really hold an idle.. this is the question.. before i do all that.. can i just put a larger cs 8000 carb into it.. is it a direct fit.. the muffler mod is not a problem.. or just leave the carb alone.. quick rebuild / muffler mod.. 24 inch bar.. its a heavy saw.. the faster you cut firewood balances out against weight.. thanks john

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Me =  I put the biggest 8000 carb made for the 8000 on a stock muffler modded 6700. IMO it wasnt worth it.  Just rebuild your 6700 carb or get another 670 680 carb.

Maybe the 8000 carb would help if one was fully ported on the wild side. But not on this one I did with just a muffler mod.