Chainsaw Repair
Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Echo => Topic started by: Cut4fun on December 02, 2012, 03:47:01 pm
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What model Echo is a John Deere 450V ? JD 450v JD 450
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Does this sound right? The 450V which is 45cc and cross references with an Echo CS-4500
http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/1b8e2784f4e2b28888256d0d001f6ff1?OpenDocument
http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/1c053ae9841b4c8c88256ece00167e93?OpenDocument
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Anyone run or have any experience with the echo 4500?
5.1kg = 11.2lbs PHO wonder how close that is to actual.
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Still digging up info. Not much out there on the echo 4500 JD 450
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy_33W2g1Dw
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Echo CS-4500 IPL http://www.barrettsmallengine.com/partslist/echocs4500cs4500P.pdf
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Got JD 450V in and I think I am going to like. Hadnt been started in years he said. Poured old mix out put fresh in and 3 pulls ;D
I'll get some pics in a bit.
Just saving info.......
Here is the schematic;
http://www.echo-usa.com/getattachment/d315aa84-9ede-49bf-a702-fe26c9166b1d/CS4500_010187.pdf (http://www.echo-usa.com/getattachment/d315aa84-9ede-49bf-a702-fe26c9166b1d/CS4500_010187.pdf)
Manufactured from 1985-1987. 45cc, 11.2lbs. Carb; HDA-28 later model show a WT-589 but Im thinking that may be a misprint.
.325 chain.
Should have a two piece ignition;
Primary Coil Resistance: 0.1 - 0.5 Ohms
Secondary Coil Resistance: 1.5 - 2.5 (K) Ohms
Operating Speed: 7,000 - 9,500 RPM
Idling Speed: 2,500 - 2,800 RPM
Bolt on cylinder with a magnesium crankcase, not a clamshell engine design. Early ones had no chain brake, just a hand guard. If you have the latter model that has the chain brake and need the handle send me a PM.
Hello,
Have three of them and one sold to a good friend. They are good reliable saws. The only weak point i discovered is the fixation of the bar studs. They are mounted with a square had between two magnesium rails in the wall of the oil tank. Had to replace one right crankcase half because of a big crack around the bar stud.
In my opinion it could not happen at normal use but i have seen two with bar stud problems. The one with the crack, one with a lose stud not pointing out in a 90 degree angle.
It are well starting machines, higher in rpm then the EVL models, easy to work on and not heavy. It is my first choice universal saw, always running. A nice feature is the little handknob to ajust the idle. Like them a lot.
Greetings from Holland
Jos.
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JD 450V
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I just put on a 18" 325 carlton new out of box semi chisel and sunk it in some hard maple with 7T rim :o :o This little 45cc echo reminds me of a OE 346xp 45cc in handling weight and speed in the cut. If not maybe a little more torque going to the echo 4500 jd 450 8) wish I still had a stock OE around to compare to.
I tuned it to 13.2k to 13.5k out of the wood and was wondering if anyone knows what the max rpm is for this?
It acts just like the OE 346 blipping and quick spool up and all. This saw will not be leaving my stable cheaply.
Heck NOT even muffler modded yet. Really IMO it dont need it.
CYLINDER BORE:
43 mm (1.693 in.)
PISTON STROKE:
31 mm (1.220 in.)
Oh out of my stupidly (hitting another log passed the log I was cutting with the tip) I found out the chain brake does work and it saved me even though it didnt reach my head. But dang it was one of those wake up moments.
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echo cs-4500 manual
http://www.echo-usa.com/getattachment/1e91fb10-5471-410b-9f62-dba1c3f2edea
http://www.instructionsheets.com/mfg/e/echo/pdfs/echo_cs-4500.htm
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I found another JD 450 yellow one needing some love.
Just wondering if the newer echo cs-450 parts will work on the 4500 saws? Looks like the echo 4000 and 5000 may swap some parts also?
Will any bigger cc tops work?
Pics of saw I will be buying to set back and fix.
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Cool found the info I needed by looking and comparing part numbers. 8) :)
Echo 4000 IPL http://s30387.gridserver.com/partsDiagrams/Echo%20CS-4000%20and%20CS-4000P.pdf
Echo 4500 IPL http://www.echo-usa.com/getattachment/d315aa84-9ede-49bf-a702-fe26c9166b1d/CS4500_010187.pdf
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I do not own any echo's but it is not a bad looking saw. Wow close call on the kick back. Chain brakes do work.
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I do not own any echo's but it is not a bad looking saw. Wow close call on the kick back. Chain brakes do work.
I'm learning as I go with the echos.
Some pretty impressive saws to be had at reasonable prices IMO.
Yep on the kickback :o
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#2 just got looked over real quick. Back bar stud **** the case and loose. Might redneck, if not I will split and send to 3000 FPS
Pics if needed? I was told this was a problem area on these.
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From what I understand this is a common issue on these. Weak bar stud area cracking from abuse maybe.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/2nd450v008.jpg)
This one had taken a fall and broken and bent the muffler studs off in cylinder. Dont know if this fix is going to work by past owner or not. Will see when all the parts show up. Muffler, muffler bolts, gasket, etc.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/2nd450v001.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/2nd450v003.jpg)
Appear to be a earlier version then my other 450V. It just had a hand guard instead of the chain brake like my other one. Hand guard on 2nd one was broken off in fall.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/2nd450v002.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/2nd450v005.jpg)
Really like the piston and cylinder on these. No wonder they run so good.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/2nd450v006.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/2nd450v004.jpg)
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The tops of Heli Coils are supposed to be a half turn below the surface?
If you have trouble with them backing out?
If you do, you are going to need to do the bottom tap trick?
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The tops of Heli Coils are supposed to be a half turn below the surface?
If you have trouble with them backing out?
If you do, you are going to need to do the bottom tap trick?
Thats the way it came in box. Looks iffy to me but will know more soon enough.
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From what I understand this is a common issue on these. Weak bar stud area cracking from abuse maybe.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/2nd450v008.jpg)
This one had taken a fall and broken and bent the muffler studs off in cylinder. Dont know if this fix is going to work by past owner or not. Will see when all the parts show up. Muffler, muffler bolts, gasket, etc.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/2nd450v001.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/2nd450v003.jpg)
Appear to be a earlier version then my other 450V. It just had a hand guard instead of the chain brake like my other one. Hand guard on 2nd one was broken off in fall.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/2nd450v002.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/2nd450v005.jpg)
Really like the piston and cylinder on these. No wonder they run so good.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/2nd450v006.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/2nd450v004.jpg)
Take another picture but back away alittle so I can see more of the bar studs and get a better idea of where the crack is.
I like that cylinder and piston also. Closed port with a windowed piston pretty cool.
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Take another picture but back away alittle so I can see more of the bar studs and get a better idea of where the crack is.
I like that cylinder and piston also. Closed port with a windowed piston pretty cool.
Ran out of time today. Will do someday soon.
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Roger if you can see it there is even cracks around the bar tensioner at the rear part. ??? Hopefully one of these 4 pics will show something.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/346xpg262xp/new346cracked450v005.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/346xpg262xp/new346cracked450v001.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/346xpg262xp/new346cracked450v004.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/346xpg262xp/new346cracked450v003.jpg)
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Ok that is alot better pic. I see cracks going between the two bar studs. I can see cracks like you said at the end of the chain tensioner.
It almost looks like the rear bar stud the one that is missing was pulled forward some.
If you decide to split it and have it welded let me know. I would weld that from both sides. Are the bar studs a press in fit from the back side then?
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Yep just press in with rectangle head fitting in a slot like the husky 372 etc.
The bar stud was in the oil tank when received. I had thought I remembered it showing in the pic when I was buying it out of state.
I'm going to get it running and see what I want to do from there. Not so sure about the cylinder muffler stud fix that was done before me. I was mainly buying for a running parts saw to have for my other one. Seems like alot of the parts are NLA.
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3000 fps this one will be put together and shelved.
The dang cylinder fix someone did with the heli coils was done wrong and came out when just messing around with the muffler bolts today. Thinking of filling in cyl muffler holes and re-tapping. Not sure yet. So going on back burner with the other back burner projects for now.
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When I tested 3/8 for fun on the 4500. It dont like that at all. Not enough grunt, just like the stock 46cc 346 is IMO.
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Cleaning up the jd 450v today and noticed something that previous owner or maybe I have done. Where the tag goes on the non structural part of crankcase. 1 rivet gone tag gone and **** the non structural part of lower lip of the crankcase.
Was covered in chips in past and today decided to clean it up for a member asking about it.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/echo4500jd450v001_zps7128ff50.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/echo4500jd450v001_zps7128ff50.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/echo4500jd450v002_zps4766a2fe.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/echo4500jd450v002_zps4766a2fe.jpg.html)
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I put a like new condition old style oregen powermatch. 72dl 18" .325 with like new Carlton N1 chain.
Just cut up some crotched gnarly maple that took almost the whole 18". I wish I had a OE 346 46cc to compare it to. This thing might take it with what seems like extra torque for a 45cc.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/echo4500jd450v003_zps0f65bc9f.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/echo4500jd450v003_zps0f65bc9f.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/echo4500jd450v008_zps36713abe.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/echo4500jd450v008_zps36713abe.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/echo4500jd450v006_zps7abc2b0f.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/echo4500jd450v006_zps7abc2b0f.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/echo4500jd450v010_zpsa219e380.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/echo4500jd450v010_zpsa219e380.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/echo4500jd450v009_zpse97bb191.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/echo4500jd450v009_zpse97bb191.jpg.html)
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Just bought a echo 4500 45cc non running no spark etc. Have a JD 450V parts saw that ran when received here with good spark but **** bar mount and busted off cylinder studs. Might be able to make 1 good 1 I am hoping.
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Parts saw.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/jdpartssawPPparts%20029_zps0bbdsdls.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/jdpartssawPPparts%20032_zpstog6s3ob.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/jdpartssawPPparts%20026_zpssmf7dbqy.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/jdpartssawPPparts%20024_zpshglmjt9r.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/jdpartssawPPparts%20022_zpsafeiyeua.jpg)
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echo 4500 I just bought and waiting on. :P
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Shipped one out and this one comes in. Now to see if it is as simple as the spark issue that it was said to have.
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Boy I just pulled a bonehead move. Freaking old brain got me. 2 hrs of work on a saw for notta. Grrrrrrrrrrr grrrrrrrrr grrrrrrrrr
Tested yellow saw with good spark, but **** bar mount area and cylinder muffler mount issues. So got the above 4500 in no spark tested out yep no spark. Cant remove coil without pulling plastic fins off the flywheel so I did this on both saws along with recoil pawls.
I went ahead and pulled the yellow saws trigger another name ? not sure and coil to put on as a set. Somewhere along the line I think I mixed up the coils. Now no spark on the orange saw with good set. I think I put the bad coil back in.
Right now I just want to kick my butt for getting confused and grabbing wrong coil.
Few choice freaking words were said and thought of a shotgun rifle and a 4 wheel drive. ;D
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Hot dang I had took a pic of the good coil and whatever it is called before I pulled them out of the JD. Now as long as I can make out the markings on coil and a little different from other one.
working on pics to see if I can tell.
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(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2015%20etc/e4500coilstuff%20002_zpsiguuljg3.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2015%20etc/e4500coilstuff%20002_zpsiguuljg3.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2015%20etc/e4500coilstuff%20001_zpsilup64mc.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2015%20etc/e4500coilstuff%20001_zpsilup64mc.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2015%20etc/e4500coilstuff%20006_zpsw40k3lj2.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2015%20etc/e4500coilstuff%20006_zpsw40k3lj2.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2015%20etc/e4500coilstuff%20003_zpsbfnty9la.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2015%20etc/e4500coilstuff%20003_zpsbfnty9la.jpg.html)
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Yep here is your sign. I did it, put the old bad coil back in with the other lead part. I'm such :P
The good coil in pic has 2 dots to right of the numbers. The bad coil has 1. ::)
Least I confirmed my dumbazz move and why no spark.
(http://media.mtvi.com/_!/intlod/MTVInternational/wmg_int/uswbv0/400217/USWBV0400217_640x480_1.jpg)
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29 Module CDI Obsolete - Not Available part # 15660130131 NLA new and bad part.
27 Coil Ignition Obsolete - Not Available Part # 15662630130 NLA too. What I was calling trigger or whatever ? .
(http://www.ereplacementparts.com/images/echo/CS-4500_WW_6.gif)
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http://www.davesmotors.com/zenoah-262971311-2629-71311-gray-ignition-coil-pum-puh.html
(http://www.prestwich.ndirect.co.uk/wnkpeF.jpg)
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29 is the bad part Jim.
4500 now lives :P 156psi ;D
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Now I am trying to figure out this loose spring and where it attaches to. Brake part somewhere.
Not see spring in IPL hmmmmm ?
echo 4500 4500p ipl http://s30387.gridserver.com/partsDiagrams/Echo%20CS-4500%20and%20CS-4500P.pdf
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OK that spring is not on my one I had with chain brake. So somebody has added this spring.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/echo4500jd450p3314001.jpg)
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1339.0;attach=15353;image)
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A Country Boy Will Survive. Glad you got it licked Kevin. We've all pulled bonehead moves like that...................at least I sure have.
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Comparing those 2 pics I notice the rear part of the brake engagement thingy is broke off on plastic handle.
Yep Aaron. I am really hating my new old brain. Just pizzes me off sometimes I am so forgetful now. I scare myself sometimes.
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Comparing those 2 pics I notice the rear part of the brake engagement thingy is broke off on plastic handle.
Yep Aaron. I am really hating my new old brain. Just pizzes me off sometimes I am so forgetful now. I scare myself sometimes.
My Dr sez that's from years of stress and lousy sleep. Getting old before my time....
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Comparing those 2 pics I notice the rear part of the brake engagement thingy is broke off on plastic handle.
Yep Aaron. I am really hating my new old brain. Just pizzes me off sometimes I am so forgetful now. I scare myself sometimes.
My Dr sez that's from years of stress and lousy sleep. Getting old before my time....
Wonderful. No wonder I am hit already.
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That spring looks like it could somehow attach to that tab above it. I just removed handle and tie strap the spring up so I could test her out.
oops working on pics
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(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2015%20etc/echoo45003900%20006_zpseafhrc0s.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2015%20etc/echoo45003900%20006_zpseafhrc0s.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2015%20etc/echoo45003900%20008_zpsot8ubjol.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2015%20etc/echoo45003900%20008_zpsot8ubjol.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2015%20etc/echoo45003900%20004_zpsde4ztsfk.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2015%20etc/echoo45003900%20004_zpsde4ztsfk.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2015%20etc/echoo45003900%20002_zpshebtn653.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2015%20etc/echoo45003900%20002_zpshebtn653.jpg.html)
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Found a recoil badge off a smashed echo on the shelf. So I removed it slowly.
Man those are heavy duty for a decal, thin aluminum or thick foil.
Noticed no dawg and the parts saw had one.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2015%20etc/decaldawg%20002_zpsxntismn5.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2015%20etc/decaldawg%20002_zpsxntismn5.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2015%20etc/decaldawg%20004_zpsaj43jnwu.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2015%20etc/decaldawg%20004_zpsaj43jnwu.jpg.html)
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Thats a nice saw.
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Thats a nice saw.
Pro built with metal crankcase and bolt on cylinder. Weight is like a OE 346 and handles like one. In the cut reminds me of OE 346 too.
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Heck yeah! Just found a pic showing that spring and where it attaches, well sort of. 8) ;D Least not where I was thinking and trying :D
(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn89/bonkelaar/CS%204500/DSCF2583-1.jpg)
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That 20" LP picco set fit perfect on the 4500 with 70dl.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2015%20etc/piccobar%20001_zpssntwoz6w.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2015%20etc/piccobar%20001_zpssntwoz6w.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2015%20etc/piccobar%20004_zpsytpxfqix.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2015%20etc/piccobar%20004_zpsytpxfqix.jpg.html)
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I'm definatly sold on echo now. It's going to be pretty much all i buy. If i could gut the 450p exhaust completely , ( cut open gut and re-braze) i think it would be even more woken up by the simple MM.
Do you know of anyone that is advancing the timing? If so how much . 3-6*?
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Hell for that matter i think my 590 ported by someone good would hang with any 60cc saw out there, And its built just like them. Bolts for jug, Mag case, etc...
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Found another pic on members chainsawr website.
I still for the life of me cant figure out how or what that other end of spring is attaching to inside the handle. Maybe mine is missing the attachment area. :-X
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https://youtu.be/S25Q4NYYLo8
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Did you see that aftermarket piston 4600 4500 on ebay. 4500 is nothing like that. Cant be right pic, I hope for buyers any way.
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my early 4600 has a split pin that fits between the upper handle bar mount and the plastic piece that the screws go into behind the handle bar, i think this is where the spring should be hooked to.......tried to quote your post but it wouldn't load, so i'm referring to this pic you posted........
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my early 4600 has a split pin that fits between the upper handle bar mount and the plastic piece that the screws go into behind the handle bar, i think this is where the spring should be hooked to.......tried to quote your post but it wouldn't load, so i'm referring to this pic you posted........
I never got it hooked up. Just been running without spring hooked up, just tie strapped it.
Thread on different ways to quote when software isnt right for whatever your using. http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/general-discussion/'quote'-not-working/
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been wondering if one of these 43mm pop up piston assy's listed on the bay would be a close match to fit in the 4500/4600 saws......
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also want to find out if the earlier shiny 488 two piece will fit the 4500/4600..........
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also want to find out if the earlier shiny 488 two piece will fit the 4500/4600..........
Trying to keep the 4500 4600 450 stuff here in this thread.
I'll put your pic and my coil pics together
Just by this pic I want to say no on coil.
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2015%20etc/e4500coilstuff%20002_zpsiguuljg3.jpg)
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1339.0;attach=16334;image)
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Jon1212 has a very nice looking 4500 with a roached p/c. He's looking to sell it...
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I have a cs4500 and I have no spark. I am reading a lot about the cdi or coils going out. both those parts are obsolete. any help would be much appreciated.
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Coil NLA. The other part can be had.
Somewhere in the thread it shows.
Read where I just did this on 4500 I took in with bad coil. In this thread. Shows pics and part numbers etc.
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im sorry. im new to this site and still trying to find my way around here. what does coil NLA mean ?
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NLA = no longer available
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how do I know if I need a coil or cdi module? ive been working on cars, boats motor cycles, lawn mowers, 4 wheelers ect since I was 6 and if I can figure out how something works I can make it work. so what would you suggestion be?
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others may know. I'm clueless on that stuff using tester for reading.
I had another known good set to swap out to know what was bad. Betting it is your coil and not the mod.
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I bought a cs5000 parts saw a few days back, tried using the one piece ignition from it in my early two piece ignition cs4600, fit right in and the saw runs great, from what i see the one piece is still available, #156626 39732, not cheap though.......... :-\
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I bought a cs5000 parts saw a few days back, tried using the one piece ignition in my early two piece ignition cs4600, fit right in and the saw runs great, from what i see the one piece is still available, #156626 39732, not cheap though.......... :-\
You saying the one piece set up from 5000 will work in the 4500? Since you said 4600 I am just guessing 4500 too. Watcha think?
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Just copy saving info. Echo 15662630230 = 15662639732 Ignition Module Coil looks like $80 and up
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yep, should work in the 4500 as well....... :)
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yep, should work in the 4500 as well....... :)
This is good to know. Thanks for sharing this with us.
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I have a 4500 on it's way to me here shortly, I'd like to look closely to see if there's any differences between the 4500 and the early 4600 cases to be a little more certain if the one piece will fit the 4500, best as I can tell, it should fit though......I'll report back when I know........... ;)
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Also wanted to mention, when looking closely at the 5000 crankcase where the ignition mounts, it still has the mounting bosses for the coil used on the early two piece ignition which makes me think that echo just used the same casting from the 4500 on up to the 5000...... ;)
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did the cdi box/ modual fix it? or the coil you said # 29 was the bad part...
29 is the bad part Jim.
4500 now lives :P 156psi ;D
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what is the red wire for?
http://www.davesmotors.com/zenoah-262971311-2629-71311-gray-ignition-coil-pum-puh.html
(http://www.prestwich.ndirect.co.uk/wnkpeF.jpg)
http://www.davesmotors.com/zenoah-262971311-2629-71311-gray-ignition-coil-pum-puh.html
(http://www.prestwich.ndirect.co.uk/wnkpeF.jpg)
29 is the bad part Jim.
4500 now lives :P 156psi ;D
29 is the bad part Jim.
4500 now lives :P 156psi ;D
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Mine was coil.
BLACK coil under the grey part you show. See RED wire. ;)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2015%20etc/e4500coilstuff%20002_zpsiguuljg3.jpg)
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Wanted to add, if I remember right, after checking part numbers for the one piece ignition module/coil for the 4600/5000, that the part number was eventually updated to being the same used on the 6700/670/680 saws, would still like to try a one piece from one of those three to confirm, but they sure do look the same, first pic are from a 4600/5000, the second for a model 6700/670/680.......if these will work, it opens up far more options to locate a coil/module for the early two piece models.
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Thought I'd share......I sent in a sample 4500 piston into ebay seller "l'il red barn" about five months ago so this piston assy. could be made, I'm happy to say they are now available by them on ebay, he's sending me one free of charge for sending in my sample, I still have a 4500 waiting for this piston, so I'll be able to check out how well these pistons fit and work....
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echo cs-4500 manual
http://www.echo-usa.com/getattachment/1e91fb10-5471-410b-9f62-dba1c3f2edea
http://www.instructionsheets.com/mfg/e/echo/pdfs/echo_cs-4500.htm
i am thinking its around the same mount and chain
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echo cs-4500 manual
http://www.echo-usa.com/getattachment/1e91fb10-5471-410b-9f62-dba1c3f2edea
http://www.instructionsheets.com/mfg/e/echo/pdfs/echo_cs-4500.htm
i am thinking its around the same mount and chain
Think he ran the same bar in this thread. https://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/echo/echo-450p/
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echo 490 mount 200SLGK216
oem listed https://www.echo-usa.com/Products/Accessories/Chain-Saw-Accessories?model=CS-490
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Nate confirmed mount on echo 490 = K216 @stubnail67
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Thank you.