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Title: Dolmar 6100
Post by: Magnus on January 20, 2013, 04:21:33 am
Has this reached USA yet?

I see they are introducing it but can't get it here or info/IPL of it.

Ah, crap.

I found some info..

http://forum.motorsaegen-portal.de/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=59945#p821381
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: 660magnum on January 20, 2013, 04:59:03 am
Is that a 9010 I see on the bottom shelf of the first picture. I thought it was discontinued?

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n141/blaubiker/1-49.jpg)

I get the idea that there are some 6100's floating around on trial in the Anericas but other than the pictures you have shown, I haven't seen anything?
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Magnus on January 20, 2013, 06:45:44 am
They are availeble in some places still. Sadly not here...
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Magnus on January 20, 2013, 07:52:12 am
The wonderful 109 is availeble in some places too, sadly not here ...
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Doug McAtee on January 20, 2013, 09:23:52 am
Has this reached USA yet?

I see they are introducing it but can't get it here or info/IPL of it.

Ah, crap.

I found some info..

http://forum.motorsaegen-portal.de/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=59945#p821381

I dont see them available here yet from my distributor .   I wish they were! 
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 20, 2013, 09:06:37 pm


I found some info..

http://forum.motorsaegen-portal.de/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=59945#p821381

Magnus I tried to join that site, but for some reason I cant register and I cant read what I am doing wrong.  You know anything on your end?  I was wanting to see more on the saw and specs etc.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Magnus on January 21, 2013, 05:34:54 am
Use google chrome so it trancelates for you, it is easier.

I am a member there or atleast was, but it is a german site with german languige. I am not so good at it...

I'll see if I can help a bit..
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Magnus on January 21, 2013, 06:18:36 am
Spec's in Italian...

http://chainsaw.dyndns.info/downloads/brand/dolmar/PS6100.it.pdf
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 21, 2013, 06:35:37 am
Spec's in Italian...

http://chainsaw.dyndns.info/downloads/brand/dolmar/PS6100.it.pdf

Thanks

Google translate to English.   http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fchainsaw.dyndns.info%2Fdownloads%2Fbrand%2Fdolmar%2FPS6100.it.pdf&act=url
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: SawTroll on August 04, 2013, 09:45:43 pm
It is easier to look at the German specs - and the specs surely aren't impressive. Time will tell though!  ;)
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: RoyM on August 14, 2013, 11:29:53 pm
I work for the Canadian Dolmar distributor and only found out about the PS6100 here. :-[ Still nothing on their web site, support and product information is sorely lacking. We have tried to order product only to find out it has been discontinued, not fun calling the dealer telling him/her. We look like idiots. The marketing people need to have a flash bang thrown under their butts. >:(
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on August 20, 2013, 11:00:42 am
If you think Dolmar is bad, Solo is even WORSE.

BEEN TRYING TO LOCATE A SOLO 681 for a customer and can't get any where!

The customer is of the opinion that a Solo 681 is a stroked 7900, anyone have any info on the 681 or a source for them. I could order out of the UK but the £775 is nuts!
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: 660magnum on August 20, 2013, 11:14:36 am
Solo designed the 6400-7300-7900 series and there is a relationship between the 7900 and the 681. The cylinder/piston of the 7900 will work on the 681 using a thicker base gasket.

Seems like Solo quit the USA market some 3 years ago.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: farmboy on August 20, 2013, 12:13:31 pm
The 681 has a 1mm stroked crank over the 7900.  Basically the 681 is a stroked 7900.  7900 crank will retrofit in a 681 so will P&C.  I just put a 7900 P&C on a new Solo 665 (baby 681) to make a 681.  Mufflers will swap.  Did notice a small alignment problem w/upper muffler screw when using the Solo muffler.
Shep
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: RoyM on October 04, 2013, 10:45:36 pm
Finally got our first PS 6100 shipment with 3/8 chain and 20" bars. Gotta talk the boss into letting me play with one. ;D
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 09, 2013, 09:08:43 pm
Finally got our first PS 6100 shipment with 3/8 chain and 20" bars. Gotta talk the boss into letting me play with one. ;D

Been 5 days.............................................. ;)

Any crumbs of feedback.. ;D
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: RoyM on October 09, 2013, 09:20:03 pm
Nothing yet.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun on October 10, 2013, 06:37:59 pm
They are in stock in Ohio now. List  PS-6100 61cc $574.95
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: fastleo151 on October 10, 2013, 07:36:22 pm
We got two in today!
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: 660magnum on October 10, 2013, 09:05:05 pm
You need to post all those pictures of the tear down
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: RoyM on October 10, 2013, 11:07:10 pm
I would sure like to play with one but I would need to buy it first and I can't justify that..  :'( I had a dealer call today asking how to deal with the epoxy sealer on the adjustment screws on a new saw. Told him I know what I would do but could not advise him. OK. sez he, I get your point.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 11, 2013, 10:04:29 am
We got two in today!

You associated with this Dolmar dealer?   or one of you  other folks?

KEEPIN YA RIDIN LLC
NEWCOMERSTOWN OH
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: fastleo151 on October 11, 2013, 02:09:18 pm
Yep
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on October 11, 2013, 06:17:35 pm
Alright guys I'm having trouble posting the pictures. I'll try to get to it tomorrow and figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: 660magnum on October 11, 2013, 09:45:06 pm
I put the pictures on Photobucket and link them here. Everything comes out sized right automatically.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun on October 12, 2013, 08:48:02 am
Alright guys I'm having trouble posting the pictures. I'll try to get to it tomorrow and figure out what I'm doing wrong.

Welcome. If you dont have a photobucket account and want to embed straight to here.  Allowed file types: doc, gif, jpg, mpg, pdf, png, txt, zip
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Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on October 12, 2013, 12:17:27 pm
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Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on October 12, 2013, 12:19:44 pm
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Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on October 12, 2013, 12:20:56 pm
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Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on October 12, 2013, 12:22:05 pm
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Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on October 12, 2013, 06:19:11 pm
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Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on October 12, 2013, 06:21:19 pm
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Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on October 12, 2013, 06:22:45 pm
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Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: fastleo151 on October 12, 2013, 06:23:23 pm
Too bad dolmar wants that saw back.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on October 12, 2013, 06:28:37 pm
I know! On the bright side I'm sure someone will get a talk about QC and we will get better saws in the end.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on October 12, 2013, 06:30:14 pm
Guys this saw ships back to Dolmar Monday morning so if we missed something that you want to see let us know.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: brokenbudget on October 12, 2013, 06:50:42 pm
how about a few better pics of the piston. 8)
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 12, 2013, 07:35:47 pm
Why are they wanting it back?  You removed the extra circlip under the cylinder. Was something else wrong due to this or something else?

Is that a reed block set up on it?
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Eccentric on October 12, 2013, 08:07:35 pm
Looks like there's a pair of reeds in the stratto tract. 
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: brokenbudget on October 12, 2013, 08:15:36 pm
probably to stop any reversion. some really good strato saws have some reversion regardless of port timing. just their way of stopping that. ;)
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: 660magnum on October 12, 2013, 08:17:18 pm
With the 6100, the strato is both piston ported and reed valved? I assume this was an effort to make it different from that used on a Husky?
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: brokenbudget on October 12, 2013, 08:19:58 pm
With the 6100, the strato is both piston ported and reed valved? I assume this was an effort to make it different from that used on a Husky?



probably to stop any reversion. some really good strato saws have some reversion regardless of port timing. just their way of stopping that. ;)
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Eccentric on October 12, 2013, 08:29:25 pm
Could be there both to prevent reversion, and also to be demonstrably different for patent infringement suit prevention....
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: fastleo151 on October 12, 2013, 10:44:25 pm
looks like they copied husky in more ways than one. Never the less think its a good saw for 575.00.  I will probably get one off the next order. 
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: fastleo151 on October 12, 2013, 10:47:41 pm
Kevin, warranty wants it back.  Nate and I would both rather keep it but still want to work with them. We were going to order a base gasket and vac test but o well
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on October 12, 2013, 11:48:35 pm
Yes that is a set of reeds. Not totally sure why they want it back. They had us tear it down to check it out and was going to send us a new base gasket but then they decided they wanted it back to do there own inspection.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on October 13, 2013, 12:03:58 am
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Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on October 13, 2013, 12:05:55 am
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Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 19, 2013, 01:10:56 pm
166 posted a video of a dolmar 6100 he got in in the cuts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8niTLnLWHw8#t=20
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 20, 2013, 10:55:47 am
166 video of a new 6100 and a broke in 562.   

6100 demo is on 20" 72LGX
562  was on a 18" wearing 72LG with little lower rakers.


http://youtu.be/-JbTogjgEPo
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: SawTroll on October 20, 2013, 04:12:51 pm
With the 6100, the strato is both piston ported and reed valved? I assume this was an effort to make it different from that used on a Husky?
Maybe a way to "work around" some patent?
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on October 21, 2013, 06:13:07 pm
 Bigger wood than we got to try one out it in. The strato dumps straight in to the top of the transfers so I wonder if that design required the reeds??? Someone with more knowledge want to help me out on this theory
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun on November 03, 2013, 09:44:24 am
Finally got our first PS 6100 shipment with 3/8 chain and 20" bars. Gotta talk the boss into letting me play with one. ;D

Any update?
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: jcsmith on November 14, 2013, 10:13:12 am
I want one too .    BTW,  660 Magnum, I think I read somewhere that the 9010 was banned by the EPA in the US because of emissions. Does anyone know if this is true?   I should have bought one when they were still available. Love that saw. 

                                                                                                                        Chris :(
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: 660magnum on November 14, 2013, 11:53:35 am
That was the idea I got too but that was close to 3 years ago?
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Eccentric on November 14, 2013, 01:29:26 pm
Last year I talked to a Dolmar dealer somewhat near me, and they said the largest Dolmar saw they could get was the 7910 (and they'd have to order it).  No-go on a 9010.  This is in Ca.....
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on November 14, 2013, 08:03:42 pm
Yeah 9010 is gone. Story I got from rep was EPA killed it. I can't wait till they come out with a replacement for it. 7900 is great but around here everything is compared to an 066. every dealer should stock a 7910
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: SawTroll on December 09, 2013, 01:44:14 pm
The 9010 still is on the German Dolmar website.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: mdavlee . on December 09, 2013, 08:56:17 pm
So what is the 6100 coming in at for price?
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 25, 2014, 11:37:43 am
looks like they copied husky in more ways than one. Never the less think its a good saw for 575.00.  I will probably get one off the next order. 

So anyone have any  cutting time on one yet?   Feedback?

From what I read, broke in 562xp and brand new 6100.

http://youtu.be/s71wKu9NxKw
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: 660magnum on January 25, 2014, 03:19:51 pm
I noticed the 6100 started out just right on mixture but got lean as it heated up.

The 562XP had the mixture just right all the way through.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on January 28, 2014, 04:47:32 pm
One of the guys in my shop just bought one so we should have some reviews on it the next time we go cut wood and be able to give updates as it breaks in. Plus I sent mine out for porting so that should make it interesting being able to run ported one side by side with a stock one
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 28, 2014, 04:55:47 pm
Randy mastermind massaging it for you?    He is here too.  ;)

Get some video and make sure chains are on par to each other when testing.   stock to ported etc. 8)
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on January 28, 2014, 05:10:52 pm
Yep. Whenever he gets to it. As strong as these run stock I bet when he gets done with it there will be a lot more interest in them. We both run carlton chain so we will put new on and test them. Rafe already decided if mine runs to good randy will get his too so we might not have a stock one to compare with long term
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 28, 2014, 08:12:10 pm
All I care about is how they perform stock anymore.  Hard enough to get folks to spend money on a good saw, let alone the cost of porting one too.
 Just to save a few seconds in a cut. 
 Some will put a smile on your face though. But it takes a special kind of wow to do that anymore.  ;)
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: redmule on January 29, 2014, 04:37:44 am
Nathaniel can you check what rpm your 6100 is set at. My 6100 is set at 13495 and this is to rich by the way the plug looks after about 8 tanks of gas. Thank you
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun on March 15, 2014, 11:38:40 am
Bore and stroke of the 6100?  I'm not finding anything.

http://www.dolmarpowerproducts.com/productcatalog/chain_saws_gasoline/ps-6100/index.html

Dolmar 6100 owners manual  http://download.dolmar.com/manuals/24188.pdf
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: 660magnum on March 15, 2014, 12:40:10 pm
1.85" X 1.38"  or

47mm X 35mm

http://download.dolmar.com/manuals/24188.pdf
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 15, 2014, 12:49:49 pm
Thanks. I went through that manual for about 30pages and gave up.
 Must have missed it.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on March 15, 2014, 09:46:12 pm
Been awhile but i haven't forgotten about giving an update.  I sold out of 6100 and  the warehouse was out so i sold my techs saw.  Hopefully have more coming in soon so i can replace his saw and by then I will have mine back from Randy to take a couple videos. 
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on May 25, 2014, 10:51:10 pm
Managed to run almost a gallon of gas through the 6100 today. Keeps getting stronger.  I will say that big fuel tank is nice. Was running carlton A1LM that I took a little too much off the rakers and she still pulled it really well in 10-16" sassafras. Going to make a video tomoro and post it.  Just me cutting today so nobody to video it.  I saved a nice sized log just for the occasion
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on May 27, 2014, 10:30:30 am
Made time yesterday to make a video. just a quick cut  then back to the ac and relax. same grabby chain as I was running sunday. didn't have a stock 6100 to compare it to

http://youtu.be/rvTD9LxVkpY
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: rburg on May 27, 2014, 08:28:47 pm
That log holder you have is nice for a wood cutter to have. Your saw seems to be picking up power as it breaks in.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: SawTroll on May 28, 2014, 01:40:06 pm
Could be there both to prevent reversion, and also to be demonstrably different for patent infringement suit prevention....

I assume the main reason is to "work around" some patent - but am of course not 100% sure.

Btw, combination piston ported/read valve isn't really News - at least JoBu did it in the 1960s....
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on June 03, 2014, 01:45:42 pm
1.85" X 1.38"  or

47mm X 35mm

http://download.dolmar.com/manuals/24188.pdf

Here is a calculator that will help you calculate the cylinder volume for any given bore and stroke. Lets take the example above bore=47mm, stroke =35mm. Divide the bore in half to get the radius R=(d/2)= 23.5. Plug the radius into the calculator plug the stroke into the calculator then divide the result by 1000 to get the volume in cc.

http://www.mathopenref.com/cylindervolume.html
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun on June 11, 2014, 01:09:56 pm
Is that new aftermarket dolmar 6100 cylinder kits I am seeing already?  $149 for P+C set.  Maybe OEM with good price?
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on June 11, 2014, 02:05:08 pm
nope. oem cylinder kit $107
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 11, 2014, 02:12:42 pm
nope. oem cylinder kit $107

Sweet Deal.   Thanks............. 8)
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: farmboy on June 11, 2014, 09:32:11 pm
Wow! that's a great price for OEM P&C kit. 
Shep
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on June 11, 2014, 10:16:10 pm
Gilardoni cylinder if i remember right. Ill open the box tomoro and check for sure. 
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 27, 2014, 11:33:16 pm
Dolmar 6100 and 6400  price by member here.

Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: redmule on September 28, 2014, 05:57:32 am
 Makes you wonder if Dolmar wants to faze out the 6400?
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on October 04, 2014, 09:22:32 am
I figure we have a few years before the 6400-7910 are phased out. 6100 could replace the 6400 but they have to come up with a replacement for the 7910 and that is going to be another year or two at least
Title: Re: Dolmar 6100 full wrap
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2014, 09:52:06 pm
Dolmar 6100 full wrap.  8)

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Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: ericjeeper on November 10, 2014, 08:42:51 pm
Does anyone offer a non cat muffler? for the 6100? I seem to have been bitten by the I need a new saw bug.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on November 10, 2014, 09:53:47 pm
They don't have a cat muffler. Stainless muffler crimped together. Not much to be gained with a mm on them either. Randy tried a mm and advancing the timing before he ported mine. If there was a gain you couldn't see it in the videos. He didn't go extreme on the mm though because I like to retain the screen and didn't want ear splitting loud.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: ericjeeper on November 10, 2014, 10:30:26 pm
Well this will save me some money then..
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: mdavlee . on November 11, 2014, 02:52:59 am
I like that full wrap set up.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: farmboy on November 11, 2014, 10:24:54 pm
I "NEEEEEED" one of them!!  Definately on my list.  I do love my Dolmars.
Shep
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on November 12, 2014, 09:43:45 am
everybody needs at least one dolmar and the price on those full wrap 6100's is pretty tempting even for the the die hard stihl guys
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: ericjeeper on November 12, 2014, 07:25:42 pm
I picked mine up from the dealer today.Put fuel in one of em and fired it up.. runs like a brand new saw.. Tomorrow I will get it dirty and run some fuel through it.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: farmboy on November 12, 2014, 09:28:55 pm
everybody needs at least one dolmar and the price on those full wrap 6100's is pretty tempting even for the the die hard stihl guys
I'm down to 1-421, 1-510, 4-5100, 1-7901, 2-6401BBK, 1-681 Solo.  See why I need a 6100 there is a gap LOL. 
Shep
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: wkend lumberjak on November 21, 2014, 07:18:21 am
the only thing I dislike is it does not come with carb adjustment tool.  Had to get one black market.  If there was a one saw plan I think this 6100 would be one of the candidate, that would get my vote, if I believed in just one saw.  I know that ain't going to happen. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: ericjeeper on December 14, 2014, 10:58:44 pm
Ok a little feedback on the 6100, The danged thing uses way to little fuel.. I feel like I should cut til I run a tank through before taking a break.. I am too old and to out of shape to hang with this saw.. Man you can cut a LOT of wood with the 6100 before needing to refuel..
Other than that I love it.. Smooth as can be..
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: 660magnum on December 14, 2014, 11:19:40 pm
Glad to hear of a over-all impression of fuel economy report.

There have been other 4 cube fuel economy saws in the past.

One that comes to mind is the Husqvarna 362.

I not trying to say that the 362 is as light, powerful, and economical as the PS6100 though.

Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 15, 2014, 02:37:25 pm
Ok a little feedback on the 6100, The danged thing uses way to little fuel.. I feel like I should cut til I run a tank through before taking a break.. I am too old and to out of shape to hang with this saw.. Man you can cut a LOT of wood with the 6100 before needing to refuel..
Other than that I love it.. Smooth as can be..

Thats how I took my breaks too. 

Sounds like the 6100 would  take me out before a break now days.  Lungs aint what they used to be. 
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on December 15, 2014, 03:25:00 pm
porting solves that problem ;)
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: 660magnum on December 15, 2014, 05:08:27 pm
Porting is like putting two fours on your Chevy

It makes more power but doesn't help the mileage.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: shavey66 on December 15, 2014, 07:34:15 pm
in europe you cant get the 6410 its out of production 6100 is sekking very well you can still get the 115 and the 9010 easily  :)
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Chainsawr on December 19, 2014, 06:16:04 am
You get a pretty solid 45 minute run time on a tank of fuel!  Even when brushing etc. with pretty much constant throttle.

Unrelated to that comment....   We got an updated version of the 6100 earlier this fall, and it is greatly debugged from the original release.  We've been doing much better with them. 

Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 29, 2015, 03:31:58 pm
Looking for the H L carb adjustment type used.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 29, 2015, 03:42:16 pm
Found it.

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Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on January 29, 2015, 06:44:18 pm
You get a pretty solid 45 minute run time on a tank of fuel!  Even when brushing etc. with pretty much constant throttle.

Unrelated to that comment....   We got an updated version of the 6100 earlier this fall, and it is greatly debugged from the original release.  We've been doing much better with them.

What has been updated on them? Havent seen any update info and havent had to work on any of them yet. i havent had any trouble with the ones i have sold.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 29, 2015, 08:59:41 pm
Nate so what does it take to adjust the H side on these?
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Chainsawr on January 30, 2015, 07:10:08 am
You get a pretty solid 45 minute run time on a tank of fuel!  Even when brushing etc. with pretty much constant throttle.

Unrelated to that comment....   We got an updated version of the 6100 earlier this fall, and it is greatly debugged from the original release.  We've been doing much better with them.

What has been updated on them? Havent seen any update info and havent had to work on any of them yet. i havent had any trouble with the ones i have sold.

New gas tank with better fuel line routing, slightly different and better fastened fuel lines, different series of carburetor and different series of coil.
 
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on January 30, 2015, 09:49:40 am
carb is still a DM27 DOL, 130153100
CARBURETOR, PS-6100 was the original carb and the part number is still valid so i am not seeing any update to it.

DOL, 130143100
IGNITION COIL COMPLETE, PS-610 still the same as the original part number with no updates that i see

DOL, 130114100
FUEL TANK, PS-6100 still a valid number. this is the number i have on my shelf and there is 1 in the warehouse but they do list a new number on the ipl 130114120 but it comes up as an invalid number.

Cant comment on fuel line routing since I have only been in a couple of these when they first came out. They have been dead reliable for me so far.
I am not seeing any updates ?????????????????????? What am i missing
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on January 30, 2015, 09:50:23 am
DD for the carb adjustment
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 30, 2015, 01:10:26 pm
DD for the carb adjustment

Thank You. Owner has one of those. he must have knew already but I didnt.
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Chainsawr on January 31, 2015, 06:50:55 am
carb is still a DM27 DOL, 130153100
CARBURETOR, PS-6100 was the original carb and the part number is still valid so i am not seeing any update to it.

DOL, 130143100
IGNITION COIL COMPLETE, PS-610 still the same as the original part number with no updates that i see

DOL, 130114100
FUEL TANK, PS-6100 still a valid number. this is the number i have on my shelf and there is 1 in the warehouse but they do list a new number on the ipl 130114120 but it comes up as an invalid number.

Cant comment on fuel line routing since I have only been in a couple of these when they first came out. They have been dead reliable for me so far.
I am not seeing any updates ?????????????????????? What am i missing

Same Dolmar factory part numbers, but the ZAMA carb numbers have changed, as have the codes on the prufrex coil from the factory.

In very cold weather the original saws have the fuel lines pull off.  We worked a fix for it with Dolmar but ended up replacing around 40 sets of fuel lines that had come off last winter.  We  have changed out around 20 dead coils on the original saws too.

If you run one of the new, new saws with the most recent carb on it side by side with one of the first saws you notice a big difference. 
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on February 03, 2015, 11:06:09 am

 Carburetor 130153100 changed to 130153101 on 11-2014 and I donít see any technical information update about any change to the carburetor and not sure why the change of the number.
 
Ignition Coil 130143100, no reports of any change for the coil, the code change in reference below I believe is the Date Code which of course will change with every production run.
 
Fuel Tank 130114100 was the original number and then  the EPA label  was added for spares for the USA which caused the number to change to 130114120 and once the stock in the USA is depleted of 130114100  the number will change to 130114120
 

 
Regards,
Terry Green
Technical Manager
Makita USA
Title: Re: Dolmar PS6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on February 03, 2015, 11:09:48 am
with no tech updates posted i went straight to the source. basically no changes except a label added to the fuel tank and different fuel line routing. I havent been into them to see the change in line routing but they are posting a tech update on them
Title: Dolmar 6100
Post by: rockfishon on November 28, 2017, 07:46:50 pm
I just picked up a 6100 off of Amazon.  This will be a replacement for my 1999 poulan 3450 that I am now fixing since the crank bearing seal melted the oil pump gear.  I hope it is going to work well and give many years of service.  This new saw will probably arrive before I get the parts to fix the old saw.
Title: Re: New ps 6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 28, 2017, 08:09:31 pm
Nate is a Makita Dolmar etc dealer for your needs.

Every thing I seen has been a strong quick cutting saw.   IMO that needs nothing done to it.
Title: Re: New ps 6100
Post by: rockfishon on December 01, 2017, 07:45:20 am
I got the saw in the mail last night.  I put the bar on and gassed it up.  Started on the first pull.  Seems like a quality built saw.  One thing I did notice was that the dog teeth are huge!  They take at least 2" away from the bar.  I think I am going to put a larger bar on this thing because of them.  Do I need a special bar that supports the higher chain speed from this saw or will any bar manufacture work?
Title: Re: New ps 6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 01, 2017, 08:25:08 am
I got the saw in the mail last night.  I put the bar on and gassed it up.  Started on the first pull.  Seems like a quality built saw.  One thing I did notice was that the dog teeth are huge!  They take at least 2" away from the bar.  I think I am going to put a larger bar on this thing because of them.  Do I need a special bar that supports the higher chain speed from this saw or will any bar manufacture work?

What came on it " K095 3/8 050 DL ?   I would think any K095 bar you are happy with will work good for your uses.
No special bar needed.

Nate sells some of the high end ones plus the budget minded.  https://www.performanceoutdoorequipment.com//index.htm?&referrer=https%253a%252f%252fwww.google.com%252f
Title: Re: New ps 6100
Post by: rockfishon on December 01, 2017, 10:32:27 am
It came with a 20" DOLMAR bar and chain 3/8" 050.  I saw another user with a 24" forester bar.  Still poking around the net for chain types.
Title: Re: New ps 6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 01, 2017, 02:22:18 pm
I'm liking Oregon LGX for 3/8 now. Get 2 loops for about the price of 1 RSK RS
Title: Re: New ps 6100
Post by: farmboy on December 01, 2017, 09:47:10 pm
Bar that comes on them is an rebranded Oregon Prolite lam bar.  That's what came on all mine (3).  Even loosing 2" on a 20" will still handle a 36" tree.
Shep
Title: Re: New ps 6100
Post by: rockfishon on December 04, 2017, 08:04:21 am
Wow, this new Dolmar 6100 saw makes my old poulan 3450 feel like an electric.  This thing really pulls into the wood and has tremendous power.  For my needs I am glad I didn't get a bigger saw.  I hope that Makita makes a case that fits this thing soon.

Like I said before, I am going to put on a 24" bar.  I found this one that looks like it is compatible:

Oregon 240RNDK095 .050" Gauge 3/8" Pitch 24" Power Match Bar

and chain:

Oregon 24" Chainsaw Chain Loop (72LGX-84 Drive Links)

The 6100 came with a .325" rim, so I will have to switch that one out to a 3/8" (part number 026 224 010).

Thanks everyone for all of the help and recommendations.
Title: Re: New ps 6100
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 04, 2017, 08:50:24 am
Wow I didnt know the 6100 came with 325 rim. Thats unusual being 61cc.

Dolmar site http://www.dolmarpowerproducts.com/productcatalog/chain_saws_gasoline/ps-6100/index.html

Dolmar 6100 IPL  http://download.dolmar.com/manuals/23803.pdf
Title: Re: New ps 6100
Post by: farmboy on December 04, 2017, 09:32:31 pm
You can use Oregon std. 3/8" 7t sprocket it would probably be cheaper than Makita/Dolmar.  Mine all came with 3/8" .050 x72dl.  Did dealer swap on .325?  Check Performance Outdoor Power Equipment for hard case.  They will fit in a Husky box.
Shep
Title: Re: New ps 6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on December 05, 2017, 08:52:53 am
the echo tough chest will hold a 6100 with just a little modification. either cut out the inner liner where the spike hits or use a heat gun and form it around.
Title: Re: New ps 6100
Post by: rockfishon on December 06, 2017, 02:41:31 pm
You can use Oregon std. 3/8" 7t sprocket it would probably be cheaper than Makita/Dolmar.  Mine all came with 3/8" .050 x72dl.  Did dealer swap on .325?  Check Performance Outdoor Power Equipment for hard case.  They will fit in a Husky box.
Shep

My 6100 box shows factory numbering of 20 325 ST on the edge.
Title: Re: New ps 6100
Post by: farmboy on December 06, 2017, 09:39:27 pm
Dealer must have ordered it w/.325.  Suprising since 6100 pulls a 24" 3/8" just fine.  6100 fits a Husky hard box w/no modification.  6400-7900 won't fit without modding the box for spikes to fit.
Shep
Title: Re: New ps 6100
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on December 07, 2017, 08:48:03 am
.325 is unusual but not unheard of on them, I actually ordered 6 or so of them last month, they were the only dolmar branded 6100's available so ordered them instead of makita branded saws
Title: Re: Dolmar 6100 Makita
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 11, 2019, 12:58:46 pm
CRG Member brought over a dolmar makita 6100 for me to run. After doing some trading.
First stock 6100 I finally got to run. Reminds me of the echo 590 weight. Would have like to had it in last summer 60cc shoot out with his jonsered 2260 too. Like to run 590 620 6100 all back to back. Thanks.
Runs like a 60cc to me. Nice in cut with what I think was a 20" 3/8. Nice job on the chain too.