Chainsaw Repair

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Title: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Remington on January 22, 2013, 01:59:35 am
I picked  up this vintage top handle with the usual homeowner symptoms, sitting for 20 years with half a tank of gas from the first gulf war but in very good condition with all original parts.  I started to clean it up and noticed it had a crankcase style similar to the stihls.. I decided it was a keeper and went all out with a complete tear down and cleaned it with a toothbrush.

I haven't run it yet but given the condition it looks like it has 2 hours on it, probably needs a carb kit.
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Remington on January 22, 2013, 02:01:24 am
Yuk first day I got it.
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Al Smith on January 22, 2013, 06:56:52 am
That's a 2 cuber built something like the s-25s'.Fact last summer I replaced the fuel line on one for a gent .For a little saw they aren't too bad .It's obviously a Poulan but exactly what model I have no clue .
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 22, 2013, 06:57:30 am
That would be a poulan. I have had them in grey, red, yellow, green. Good little saws.

Will be more like the newer 1800 30cc or 2000 33cc or 2300 38cc.  Just noticed it said 2.0 = 2000 33cc

Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Al Smith on January 22, 2013, 08:16:44 am
That thing is one of those deals they hung a longer bar on than needed .It will pull all 16" of bar but it doesn't like it . They did the same ploy on some of those 2.8 cubers with a 20" .I think it's just Sears and Roebuck being Sears and Roebuck .
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Post by: 3000 FPS on January 22, 2013, 11:34:59 am
I was going to say it looked like a Poulan 2000 also.   I have one and think they are good little saws.   
Reed valve and a aluminium cylinder, and like was already mentioned 33cc.   I dropped the cylinder on mine and opened the muffler alittle just to try and get alttle more out of it. 
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Remington on January 22, 2013, 12:44:21 pm
I wasn't expecting much or any replies being in the loner category but now you guys replied before I had a chance to put the clean pics up.

If it runs good I will ditch the 16" for a 12" bar and take off the hand shield.  I didn't like the 16 the minute I laid eyes on it.

So far I replaced starter rope, spark plug, fuel line, air filter foam.. under $10 fix

I also changed a couple of the vintage screws for modern looking ones.

Yes its a poulan, the manual I found for it said 1800,2000,2300.


Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 22, 2013, 12:59:51 pm
I actually kept the 16" bar, just so I would not have to bend over as far to use it.
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Al Smith on January 22, 2013, 01:15:14 pm
I probabley ran about a tank through when I did that small repair job .The 16" gives you a little reach but a tiny little saw  like that starts loosing it at much over 8" of cut which is not surprising .

You could probabley give them a little bit of soup but I really don't see doing it .It's a trim the apple tree in the back yard small firewooder saw .For that it fits the bill .
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 22, 2013, 01:26:28 pm
I have only cut pine with the one I have and it seemed to do alright thru 10".
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Al Smith on January 22, 2013, 04:18:12 pm
I was in sugar maple so that would definatley make a difference .
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Remington on January 22, 2013, 10:42:38 pm
Here it is all cleaned up. I want to see how it runs in its original state before making some changes to it.

Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 23, 2013, 12:01:44 am
Nice Job Remington on the saw it looks great.
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 23, 2013, 06:48:59 am
That chain you have on there is the slowest 3/8LP chain I tested. Try a loop of stihl PS3 round chisel chain.

There is a even newer PS but dealers cant order it yet. PS PS3 have a cutter like RS RSC
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Al Smith on January 23, 2013, 08:47:38 am
That's typical guard chain they installed on a lot of consumer grade saws .Funny part is often on those little saws it's evident they had never been refiled .They got so little of use the chain never got dull .

Sat around for 4-5 years on the shelf then they wouldn't start .Off to Sears and buy another one .Sell the old one for 20 bucks at a garage sale or give it away
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Remington on January 23, 2013, 01:29:19 pm
The bar will be replaced with a 12" and a better chain once I confirm it runs good and I like it,  and I will remove the shield and put some grip on that skinny handle. right now its as thin as a plumbing pipe. I just wanted to get it back to complete and original for others to see... 

I weighed it on a digital food scale and it came in at 4.375 kg ..

Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: 660magnum on January 23, 2013, 01:45:30 pm
9.64 pounds
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 23, 2013, 02:13:42 pm
The bar will be replaced with a 12" and a better chain once I confirm it runs good and I like it,  and I will remove the shield and put some grip on that skinny handle. right now its as thin as a plumbing pipe. I just wanted to get it back to complete and original for others to see... 

I weighed it on a digital food scale and it came in at 4.375 kg ..



They make a thick rubber covered handle for those. Look on bay usually $7-$10. Well worth with the vibrations those little guys send through the hands. 

I might have a pic of one, not sure.

Also just a guess but betting saw was made in early 90's.
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Remington on January 23, 2013, 09:58:33 pm
I'd say older looking at the style . My guess is 1986 but what do I know I'm just a hobbyist.
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Remington on January 24, 2013, 09:59:17 pm
I had this out today and it sort of ran.  It starts and runs fine and sounds healthy but its lowest idle setting is full speed and fast enough to cut through oak, then when I give it gas it bogs down and loses power.  If I try to turn the L screw it either goes to fast or stalls out.
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: 660magnum on January 24, 2013, 10:04:34 pm
Sounds like it is sucking air in somewhere?
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 24, 2013, 10:07:37 pm
I think at this point I would try and put a kit in the carb and clean it real well.
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Remington on February 16, 2013, 11:45:06 pm
Just wanted to follow up and say this thing now runs mint.  During the assembly I was always looking at one piece #19 in the diagram that appeared to be missing. It looked like the base handle drawing but it was actually a gasket under the handle for the reed valve. So a few days ago I go outside and find #19 on the floor where I usually do my hammering. It must have fallen off when I had it on the side while removing the flywheel.
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 16, 2013, 11:57:57 pm
Hey that is great Remington.
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on March 04, 2013, 06:59:30 am
And did you find the problem?
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: Al Smith on March 05, 2013, 06:45:08 pm
You have a classic case of a carb that needs rebuilt more than likely .The diaphragm gets stiff and it will  expand enough for it to run but not be flexable enough to pump in enough fuel for a sustained speed run .
Title: Re: Vintage Craftsman top handle clean up
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 05, 2013, 06:49:29 pm
Reply #22 said he was missing the gasket under the reed valve assembly.   He found the gasket and put it in and it ran great afterwards.