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Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Husqvarna => Topic started by: man of stihl on March 15, 2011, 07:58:04 pm

Title: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: man of stihl on March 15, 2011, 07:58:04 pm
why is the 262 so popular? good hp to weight ratio? reliability? i'm just curious. ???
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: Old Iron Logging on March 15, 2011, 08:13:33 pm
Big power in a small package. As for reliabilty, depends on where you live and what you did with them. Down here in the limbs cranks and pistons were a good seller.
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: bloodontheice on March 15, 2011, 08:19:10 pm
They were light and powerful, the one I owned seemed to lack the grunt to run a 20" bar running
3/8" chain, it was fine with a 18".
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: Cut4fun on March 15, 2011, 08:26:35 pm
Over rated saw IMHO.  Stock or stock with muffler mod wasn't all that. I didnt like the way they felt in my hands bucking firewood.

Compared to a poulan for fun . http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/poulan-3750-60cc/

Granted the poulan may not last like the 262 day after day.
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: chainsman1 on March 15, 2011, 08:43:50 pm
works pretty good wiith a 272 top end!
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: SawTroll on March 16, 2011, 09:28:50 am
works pretty good wiith a 272 top end!

Putting that together must be a lot of work, as they belong to totally different saw families.  ???
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: bloodontheice on March 16, 2011, 06:00:03 pm
works pretty good wiith a 272 top end!

Putting that together must be a lot of work, as they belong to totally different saw families.  ???

You must not have a big enough hammer, anything can be made to fit with a proper sized hammer.  ;D
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: Cut4fun on March 16, 2011, 06:02:42 pm
works pretty good wiith a 272 top end!

Putting that together must be a lot of work, as they belong to totally different saw families.  ???

You must not have a big enough hammer, anything can be made to fit with a proper sized hammer.  ;D

 ;) Yep I have heard of 272 crankshaft put in 3 cube husky saws at the races before.  The one I heard of sure didnt sound like your normal 3ci in the cuts.
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: Spike60 on March 17, 2011, 10:44:18 am
All of the saws that have achieved "legend" status are overated. They are certainly good, and at the top of their class as well. But the idea that any of these saws far outshine their competition is mostly hype. I've seen guys post that the 262 will run with a 372. That's just silly.

262 is a great saw for sure. My favorite saw in the 60cc class is the Jonsered 630 Super. Dolmar 116SI is another real good saw. All good; ought to have one of each!!
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: Cut4fun on March 17, 2011, 01:47:14 pm
I think what happened to me Spike was I read all the hype and was expecting to be just blown away by it in the cut etc.
 It is a great saw and well built. I was just expecting to much and it turned out to be just like the other 59cc-62cc saws I've ran. 
Something about the rear handle angle felt different in my hands, but would be something I could get used to.

Since I had so many saws in this range already and it was a trade in on a bigger saw a 3120, it didnt take me a hot second to find a buyer of the clean like new 262xp. It was like the guys 6th one or something he said.
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: SawTroll on March 18, 2011, 06:48:58 am
works pretty good wiith a 272 top end!

Putting that together must be a lot of work, as they belong to totally different saw families.  ???

You must not have a big enough hammer, anything can be made to fit with a proper sized hammer.  ;D

I am sure it can be done, if you put enough effort into it!  ;D
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: sawinredneck on March 18, 2011, 05:41:33 pm
The weight and power made it an ideal firewood saw. A lot easier to carry in the woods and enough power to buck wood up fairly quickly. The power to weight has been hard to beat ever since.
I had one, wish I still did, but got fed up with it. Finicky damn things! Coils are weak and $75 each. Crank seal are starting to go on them now as well, due to age.
Mine pulled a 20" bar in Oak all day long, never had a problem with the power it had.
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: man of stihl on September 30, 2011, 07:39:07 pm
I just bought a Husqvarna 262. The price was to good to pass up. Once i get it and get it running, i'll compare it with a stock Stihl 036 pro and a Husqvarna 365sp.
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: SawTroll on October 01, 2011, 04:37:15 pm
If it doesn't beat both, something is wrong with it!
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: man of stihl on October 01, 2011, 05:02:47 pm
The 036 pro may surprise you Niko. It beat down a ms 361 and several 4 cube huskys and jreds at the last race i was in. ;)Its bone stock with muff mod.
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: Old Iron Logging on October 01, 2011, 05:04:10 pm
A 262 could never beat a 365. Doesn't have the torque to pull it off.
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: man of stihl on October 01, 2011, 05:12:53 pm
The 036 pro may surprise you Niko. It beat down a ms 361 and several 4 cube huskys and jreds at the last race i was in. ;)Its bone stock with muff mod.
I was using gooood chain though. ;)
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: Cut4fun on October 01, 2011, 05:25:13 pm
No way a 262xp with muffler mod out cuts a stock 365 special with no mod to muffler, both running right. I have tested to know.
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: Old Iron Logging on October 01, 2011, 06:55:57 pm
True words. I have tested, raced and logged with many 262 and 365 Huskys. Stock or modified the 365 wins.
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: man of stihl on October 04, 2011, 07:22:17 pm
Got my 262 in today. I need to change the fuel lines. It runs with a prime.
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 05, 2011, 09:08:30 pm
Let us or PM me if you like after comparing the 036 365SP 262xp. I wonder if you will come away with the same thoughts I did.  ::) 
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: man of stihl on November 08, 2011, 02:08:45 pm
Would it be ok to use a piece of greased printer paper for a cylinder base gasket? I need a gasket .005 thick to set my squish to .021 on my 262. Without the gasket squish is at .016. The gasket alone reads .034. So that means squish with the gasket would have been at .050. :o
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2011, 02:20:41 pm
Never tried printer paper. Wont know till you try.  ;)  Brown paper grocery sack works good.
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: HolmenTree on November 09, 2011, 12:50:17 am
The 262XP had a good rep right from day one, starting around 1989. The one of the very first saws on the market with air injection and spring anti vibe, a design Stihl was forced to change to almost 18 yrs later with the 441.
Title: Re: husky 262
Post by: HolmenTree on November 10, 2011, 08:15:35 am
Sounds good Kevin.
now we're all clear on this ;)
BTW excellent forum we have here. :)
Title: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on December 03, 2013, 03:36:49 pm
I got this 262XP saw in today VERY clean saw serial number 2190203 which would put it at 1992, 19th week.
It has no provision for a decompression valve which tells me it was made between 1990-03 and 1992-10. IIRC when you look at the spec dates (e.g.1992-10 indicates October 1992). If that be true then the saw was introduced in March 1990 and the spec was changed in March of 1991 and ran through October 1992. It was changed again in November 1992. In November of 1992 is when Husqvarna switched to the HDA-120 carb.

I took the top cover off and discovered that the saw has an HDA-87 carb! Which I believe stands to reason because 19th week translates to just before the middle of April 1992.

So here is what I am trying to figure out, I cannot tell if the cylinder is marked 'Mahle', I cannot find markings on it at all. There are some black paint markings on top of the cylinder but I cannot figure out what they indicate. I did pull the plug and have a look inside, piston is definitely a flat top.

Camera is charging, I will post some pictures later in the day.

Title: Pictures
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on December 03, 2013, 04:39:31 pm
Pictures
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on December 03, 2013, 04:41:51 pm
More pictures

I will take it apart some and get some more pics. Look closely at the black tag, not sure I have ever seen one like this. Don't think the saw is a fake but who knows
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: SawTroll on December 03, 2013, 06:04:52 pm
The non-decomp cylinders on the early 262xps are KolbenScmidt ones. Those are quite discretely marked, with a K and a S superinposed on top of each other.

I believe the KS top end and HDA-87 was the best combination they used on those saws.

The earliest 262xp dating I have seen (a picture of) is 1989 week 26.

Btw, I am not a "262xp guy", I just happen to know a few things about them.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: SawTroll on December 03, 2013, 06:35:13 pm
That saw looks extremely nice, and it looks legit to me! ;D

Hopefully the attachment works..... (Edit - it didn't, the file was too large ::))

Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: farmboy on December 03, 2013, 08:27:35 pm
Congratulations it's the  real deal!  Down to the tab on the clutch cover. 
Shep
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2013, 08:59:20 pm
That saw looks extremely nice, and it looks legit to me! ;D

Hopefully the attachment works..... (Edit - it didn't, the file was too large ::))



email me file Niko. I'll get it attached for you. 
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2013, 09:03:40 pm
Dang thats a nice one.  So whats the story on the find?
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2013, 09:13:11 pm
Congratulations it's the  real deal!  Down to the tab on the clutch cover. 
Shep

Tab on clutch cover?  I didnt learn anything about the 262's even when I had 2. Just not a fan of them. 

1st one

http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/262alky/Copyofpipedsaws009.jpg.html](http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/262alky/Copyofpipedsaws009.jpg)[/URL]


2nd one  darn it no good clutch side shots

http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/346xpg262xp/Copyof346xpg262xp008.jpg.html](http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/346xpg262xp/Copyof346xpg262xp008.jpg)[/URL]
http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/346xpg262xp/Copyof346xpg262xp005.jpg.html](http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/346xpg262xp/Copyof346xpg262xp005.jpg)[/URL]


Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: farmboy on December 03, 2013, 09:33:22 pm
IIRC the 92 w KS cyl. has a smaller combustion chamber to go along with the HDA87.  It the "King" of 262's. 
I still love my 261/262 conversions but I'm really liking my Poulan 3500,3750.
Shep
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: SawTroll on December 03, 2013, 09:48:30 pm
That saw looks extremely nice, and it looks legit to me! ;D

Hopefully the attachment works..... (Edit - it didn't, the file was too large ::))



email me file Niko. I'll get it attached for you. 

I wanted to attach the (Swedish) brochure with the pictures of the 1989 week 26 one - will send you an email!
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: SawTroll on December 03, 2013, 10:04:28 pm

Tab on clutch cover? .....


I didn't understand it either - but figured he could have meant the chips dicharge flap?   

Could be wrong though? ???
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2013, 10:39:15 pm
That saw looks extremely nice, and it looks legit to me! ;D

Hopefully the attachment works..... (Edit - it didn't, the file was too large ::))



email me file Niko. I'll get it attached for you. 

I wanted to attach the (Swedish) brochure with the pictures of the 1989 week 26 one - will send you an email!

Got it. Will get in and make room tomorrow and post it.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: SawTroll on December 03, 2013, 10:53:17 pm
 8) The main point is the picture that shows the number tag, but some may complain that the document is in Swedish!   ;D
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2013, 11:10:50 pm
8) The main point is the picture that shows the number tag, but some may complain that the document is in Swedish!   ;D

I grabbed the pic and cropped it for the tag shot with PH.  Good enough?

Just click thumbnail to enlarge.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: SawTroll on December 03, 2013, 11:34:22 pm
Thanks, that picture was the main point!    ;)

It shows the important parts of the serial number, and the configuration of the tags.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: SawTroll on December 03, 2013, 11:58:04 pm
I got this 262XP saw in today VERY clean saw serial number 2190203 which would put it at 1992, 19th week.
It has no provision for a decompression valve which tells me it was made between 1990-03 and 1992-10. IIRC when you look at the spec dates (e.g.1992-10 indicates October 1992). If that be true then the saw was introduced in March 1990 and the spec was changed in March of 1991 and ran through October 1992. It was changed again in November 1992. In November of 1992 is when Husqvarna switched to the HDA-120 carb. .....


The first IPL I can find, that show a cylinder with a decomp, is the 1994-06 one. That doesn't mean that the change happened exactly then though  - as IPLs are about replacement parts, and not always what was in the production saws ....
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on December 04, 2013, 05:36:05 am
Thank you guys the picture from Niko answered the questions I had about the tags.

I found the saw in CL from a neighboring state and bought it. No drama, probably paid way too much but I have always wanted an early one to fill my collection.

Shep I did not understand the comment about the tab on the clutch cover.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on December 04, 2013, 06:06:55 am

Btw, I am not a "262xp guy", I just happen to know a few things about them.

Sorry Niko, did not intend to offend but you DO know a few things about them and that was what I was after!
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: 660magnum on December 04, 2013, 06:10:00 am
As Niko was saying, Shep is talking about the rubber tab that hangs down off the rear of the clutch cover to protect the tank.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: farmboy on December 04, 2013, 09:02:48 am
Thank you guys the picture from Niko answered the questions I had about the tags.

I found the saw in CL from a neighboring state and bought it. No drama, probably paid way too much but I have always wanted an early one to fill my collection.

Shep I did not understand the comment about the tab on the clutch cover.
The clutch cover looks like it has the tab on the rear that goes inside the AV mt cover.  You have to insert tab in it then fold the clutch cover on over the studs.  Used same clutch cover on 254's too.
Shep
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 04, 2013, 09:10:32 am
Mine was like that and never thought anything about it. Just figured it was the design they had.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 04, 2013, 09:39:42 am
Just trying to learn here. This is how all the covers I have seen has been.  Now I have heard of another cover but have never saw one.

Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on December 04, 2013, 10:22:13 am
You are correct that is what Bill was talking about. I will be posting some more pictures later today.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 04, 2013, 10:25:29 am
That one above is for sale by member here sawagain. Just in case someone needs one.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: farmboy on December 04, 2013, 10:52:57 am
The later models were metal and didn't have the tang or slot in the AV mt. cover.  Some guys would cut the tang off so it would fit.
Shep
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 04, 2013, 11:12:36 am
The later models were metal and didn't have the tang or slot in the AV mt. cover.  Some guys would cut the tang off so it would fit.
Shep

Thats what I had heard too a metal one. I never seen one yet.

I know mine made me want to cut the freakin things off a few times when in a hurry at the races.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: farmboy on December 04, 2013, 02:14:09 pm
The 261's all had a metal CC no tang.
Shep
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: SawTroll on December 04, 2013, 04:18:30 pm
The later models were metal and didn't have the tang or slot in the AV mt. cover.  Some guys would cut the tang off so it would fit.
Shep

If memory serves, the clutch covers were changed from plastic to magnesium some time around 1997.

The 261's all had a metal CC no tang.
Shep

That adds up!
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on December 04, 2013, 04:57:30 pm
In my experience cutting the tabs off the plastic covers allows them to vibrate too much and would eventually crack the covers. Sort of like speed cracks on a Corvette.

All the 261s I have converted o 262s had mag CCs.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: SawTroll on December 04, 2013, 05:17:49 pm
Sorry Niko, did not intend to offend but you DO know a few things about them and that was what I was after!

Nothing to be sorry about - my comment was for info, nothing else!  ;D
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: Old Iron Logging on December 04, 2013, 05:28:54 pm
The tabs made it easy to tell how much use a 262 or 254 had. With alot of hours they would wear thru the case. Lots of guys tried to sell "low hour" saws, but the case told another story.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on December 04, 2013, 06:42:43 pm
Here are some more pics
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 04, 2013, 06:50:53 pm
Really really small pics.  1.5kb in size.

You can attach up to 400kb size.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on December 04, 2013, 07:55:53 pm
I will redo them tomorrow, evidently I had the camera set wrong!
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: SawTroll on December 05, 2013, 11:23:12 am
Much better, but there still is room for larger picture files.  ;)
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on December 05, 2013, 01:37:39 pm
Click on them they get much bigger. There are black marks on top of the cylinder, anyone recognize them.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys, Farmboy and SawTroll
Post by: SawTroll on December 05, 2013, 03:48:03 pm
Surely they do, but they are getting unclear when blown up much more than that.  ;)

I don't know what the black marks means.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 05, 2013, 03:58:30 pm
Was there black rubber tabs under the cylinder cover by chance?  Marked on top of cylinder?
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on December 05, 2013, 04:40:48 pm
No rubber bumpers under the cover.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Spike60 on December 09, 2013, 08:40:37 pm
A nice trick when rebuilding these saws is to use the thinner 1mm gasket, part number 503704801. Nice compression! It's actually the gasket specified for the 254 I believe. There was even an earlier .7mm gasket that is NLA. Can't simply delete the gasket and substitute 3-bond on all saws in this family. Can't do it on the 254, but OK on the 257. Not sure on a 262, but I suspect not. 261's came with a 2mm gasket, and I think that might also be the case for all of the 262's but I can't verify from home tonight.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on December 09, 2013, 08:53:05 pm
Cool, if you could find out that would be much appreciated!,!!!
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Spike60 on December 10, 2013, 10:38:42 am
It's a bit confusing as both gaskets appear on different IPL's Can't say whether or not it's a year by year deal or different markets. Most IPL's up until 1998 show the thicker one, but in 1999 the 262 is shown with the thin gasket. 254 IPL's are also a mixed bag. 1994 shows the thick gasket, 1998 shows the thinner one.

Suffice to say that there are 2 gaskets currently available for these saws. I have both in stock and the one I mentioned as being the way to go is certainly thinner than the other.

503704801 is the thin gasket.

503704802 is the thicker one.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on December 10, 2013, 11:27:39 am
Given the mfg date on the saw I checked on parts tree. The spare parts list shows the saw used 501861902 which is replaced by 503704802. S60 you are correct that the thin is still available as 50370480.

So I am wondering what the specs were on the original 501861902 part. The part is also listed for Electrolux and Poulan but does not show that it was replaced by the 503 70 48-02 however that doesn't mean that if you ordered the 19-02 part you would not get the 48-02 part!
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on January 17, 2014, 09:27:21 am
It's a bit confusing as both gaskets appear on different IPL's Can't say whether or not it's a year by year deal or different markets. Most IPL's up until 1998 show the thicker one, but in 1999 the 262 is shown with the thin gasket. 254 IPL's are also a mixed bag. 1994 shows the thick gasket, 1998 shows the thinner one.

Suffice to say that there are 2 gaskets currently available for these saws. I have both in stock and the one I mentioned as being the way to go is certainly thinner than the other.

503704801 is the thin gasket.

503704802 is the thicker one.

Ordered and received both gaskets, here is some additional info. I measured the compressed thickness of both gaskets:
503704802 is the thicker one and is 0.0363
503704801 is the thin gasket and is 0.0240
The original number 501861902 superseded to 503704802
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Magnus on January 17, 2014, 09:30:25 am
You ever found any of the 254/262 with double gaskets?
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on January 17, 2014, 09:35:46 am
You ever found any of the 254/262 with double gaskets?

No, but in order to get the 365SP piston to work in the test saw, I may have to use two, 1 thin and 1 thick because the compression height of the 365SP piston is 1.5mm 0.060 taller than the 262XP piston. Why do you ask?

Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Magnus on January 17, 2014, 12:24:53 pm
There was a rek out to dealers in early 90's to put in two of the thick ones to increase compression volume and by that allow larger amount amount of fuel/air above piston that can expand and get a bit more torq out of them.

Why would you put a 365 piston in a 262?
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on January 17, 2014, 01:29:08 pm
There was a rek out to dealers in early 90's to put in two of the thick ones to increase compression volume and by that allow larger amount amount of fuel/air above piston that can expand and get a bit more torq out of them.

Why would you put a 365 piston in a 262?

Just an experiment to see how the saw would run using a non windowed piston that was 1.5mm taller in compression height. Well the idea of two gaskets as the rek said is a very intriguing option. If the 365 piston does not work out, I will try a 262 piston and two gaskets to see. Thanks for the tip!

Hmmmm, a little more thought on this, you mentioned that the advice to dealers was in the early 90s. The first two specifications on the saws used non-decomp Kolben Schmidt cylinders which were know to have a smaller combustion chamber than the later saws with a Mahle cylinder. I wonder if the advice to dealers was about getting a little more out of the KS cylinders. And I further wonder if it applies to both the KS and Mahle cylinders or only the KS?
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Magnus on January 17, 2014, 03:35:37 pm
There was a rek out to dealers in early 90's to put in two of the thick ones to increase compression volume and by that allow larger amount amount of fuel/air above piston that can expand and get a bit more torq out of them.

Why would you put a 365 piston in a 262?

Just an experiment to see how the saw would run using a non windowed piston that was 1.5mm taller in compression height. Well the idea of two gaskets as the rek said is a very intriguing option. If the 365 piston does not work out, I will try a 262 piston and two gaskets to see. Thanks for the tip!

Hmmmm, a little more thought on this, you mentioned that the advice to dealers was in the early 90s. The first two specifications on the saws used non-decomp Kolben Schmidt cylinders which were know to have a smaller combustion chamber than the later saws with a Mahle cylinder. I wonder if the advice to dealers was about getting a little more out of the KS cylinders. And I further wonder if it applies to both the KS and Mahle cylinders or only the KS?
I am in Sweden so perhaps it is market differances. I don't see many 262 without decomp here...
There was Gilardoni cylinders to, I think I still have one.
Was it not on here that was discussed recently?

The advice was mainly to 254's but would work for any saw I guess..
Problem is to get it tight and keep it tight. I glued mine with "Form a gasket".
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: SawTroll on January 17, 2014, 04:35:06 pm
I am getting quite confused here now by that early 1990s advice to dealers.

Using a double (thick) gasket will of course lead to a larger squish and less compression + raise all the ports. Unless the design was faulty from the outset (piston hitting cylinder roof), I find it hard to believe this would improve the performance of the saw.  ???

Now I know that really high compression tends to be over rated on certain chainsaw forums, but I don't believe that is an issue in this case?
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on January 17, 2014, 05:17:24 pm
I suppose that the only way we will get to the bottom of this is to find a copy of what was sent out to dealers by HVA in the early 90s!
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Magnus on January 17, 2014, 05:50:42 pm
I think I have it here, but not sure were...

YOU come help me find it. I put the coffee on.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on January 17, 2014, 06:04:11 pm
How about this, YOU mail the books to me, I will find it and make a copy of all the books and put on DVD, then mail books back to you! I will even send SawTroll his own copy!
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Magnus on January 17, 2014, 06:11:56 pm
Ha! Good idea. I like mine better though..

I think it is all available already in HVA database. These binders are a mess to find info in.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on January 17, 2014, 06:16:31 pm
All we have to do now is find someone who has access to the HVA database!
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Magnus on January 18, 2014, 11:08:37 am
OK, lets see here...

262XP after 1410514 and XPG after 1410677 should have the 1mm gasket instead of the 0,7mm gasket used before these was made.
S91.114-91.

Still looking for that other with two gaskets.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on January 18, 2014, 12:37:02 pm
Magnus, I don't believe you are actually going through all those books!
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: SawTroll on January 18, 2014, 12:48:03 pm
I think I have it here, but not sure were...

YOU come help me find it. I put the coffee on.

Ha! Good idea. I like mine better though..

I think it is all available already in HVA database. These binders are a mess to find info in.

Yes - I assume it was in a TI, so any Husky dealer should be able to find it online, at the dealers network.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: SawTroll on January 18, 2014, 12:59:35 pm
OK, lets see here...

262XP after 1410514 and XPG after 1410677 should have the 1mm gasket instead of the 0,7mm gasket used before these was made.
S91.114-91.

.....

Sounds like something that could be caused by different cylinders being used from the factory (or less likely, a change in the deck higth of the cases) - which could well make sense.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: SawTroll on January 18, 2014, 01:04:25 pm
Magnus, I don't believe you are actually gosin through all those books!

I don't believe he is.....
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Magnus on January 18, 2014, 02:45:21 pm
Magnus, I don't believe you are actually gosin through all those books!
I will do it again... I have been thru them before.
But it takes time and interest. It is not alway's interesting... Not after a couple binders...
These will be added to list of documents along with the rest I have of the various brands. I have 39 of these binders in list, about 120 or so more to add....
Some pretty rare stuff in there along with more common stuff and internet prints, copies, originals..
About 48GB more in 'puter files, 10GB on server for all to enjoy (with much of it posted in Library section on CSCF).

Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Magnus on January 18, 2014, 02:57:46 pm
S93.115-01
In this you can read that the new cylinders with decomp valve are put in after serial 262xp 965520300, 262xpg 965521100.
It is old style decomp, thin black one...
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Magnus on January 18, 2014, 03:05:38 pm
It might surprise you that 261 was export only and nine years after 262.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: SawTroll on January 18, 2014, 03:40:06 pm
S93.115-01
In this you can read that the new cylinders with decomp valve are put in after serial 262xp 965520300, 262xpg 965521100.
It is old style decomp, thin black one...

Those numbers look more like "item numbers" ("part" numbers for the complete power head) than like serial numbers.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: SawTroll on January 18, 2014, 03:44:11 pm
It might surprise you that 261 was export only and nine years after 262.

Not at all - I believe it is well known that it was an "EPA special", for the US market only - made in the late 1990s.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Magnus on January 18, 2014, 03:49:15 pm
Partnumbers are for 262 in this bulletin 503 54 11-71 std and 503 54 11-72 for those with decomp.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: SawTroll on January 18, 2014, 04:28:50 pm
OK, the "96" numbers actually could be serial numbers, if you disregard "96" up front..... ???

Then it would be about 1995 week 52 saws, and by then decomp or not were options (actually decomp valve or a plug in its place).

Edit; This was of course not correct.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Magnus on January 18, 2014, 04:42:04 pm
Nope, it is printed.

I don't know what it means unless it is serials. I guess it could be something else but i have no idea what that would be.
Batch number it isn't or type number...

Order number for saw?
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Magnus on January 18, 2014, 04:43:47 pm
OK, the "96" numbers actually could be serial numbers, if you disregard "96" up front..... ???
Why would you disregad first numbers? Why not last? Why disregard at all?
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on January 18, 2014, 04:44:09 pm
S93.115-01
In this you can read that the new cylinders with decomp valve are put in after serial 262xp 965520300, 262xpg 965521100.
It is old style decomp, thin black one...

Those numbers look more like "item numbers" ("part" numbers for the complete power head) than like serial numbers.

The stuff with the 's' in front of it looks to be the old system used on the moorcycles to keep track of and organize service bulletins.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: SawTroll on January 18, 2014, 04:54:27 pm


Order number for saw?

 ::) That's what I tried to say when suggesting "item number".....
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: SawTroll on January 18, 2014, 05:42:34 pm
S93.115-01
In this you can read that the new cylinders with decomp valve are put in after serial 262xp 965520300, 262xpg 965521100.
It is old style decomp, thin black one...

Those numbers look more like "item numbers" ("part" numbers for the complete power head) than like serial numbers.

The stuff with the 's' in front of it looks to be the old system used on the moorcycles to keep track of and organize service bulletins.

Yes, I believe it is.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: SawTroll on January 18, 2014, 05:47:28 pm
OK, the "96" numbers actually could be serial numbers, if you disregard "96" up front..... ???
Why would you disregad first numbers? Why not last? Why disregard at all?

I really just wanted to convince you that those numbers weren't serial numbers, but rather item numbers (order numbers).

Simple as that, and it looks like it worked!  ;)
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on January 20, 2014, 09:59:08 am
This from Spike60 on double base gaskets on the 261 262!

Quote
Took a look but cannot find any such SB. Only 262 item concerning the base gasket was the change from the .7mm to 1mm gasket in 1991.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Magnus on January 20, 2014, 11:27:17 am
Spike60 isn't posting here?
It is not in my books here, but they are missing a lot of stuff from '90 and up.
At the time this was done I was at a service shop doing this. I still have contact with this guy and will see if he remembers it.
I had this up in discussion with a former Husqvarna developer as well a couple years ago, I see if I find the notes.

I have had in many 254's with double gaskets here..


Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on January 20, 2014, 12:07:21 pm
Spike60 isn't posting here?
It is not in my books here, but they are missing a lot of stuff from '90 and up.
At the time this was done I was at a service shop doing this. I still have contact with this guy and will see if he remembers it.
I had this up in discussion with a former Husqvarna developer as well a couple years ago, I see if I find the notes.

I have had in many 254's with double gaskets here..




Magnus, I sent Spike60 a Private Message asking if he could take a look on the dealer network to see if he could find it. What I posted was his response.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: SawTroll on January 20, 2014, 12:21:35 pm
This from Spike60 on double base gaskets on the 261 262!

Quote
Took a look but cannot find any such SB. Only 262 item concerning the base gasket was the change from the .7mm to 1mm gasket in 1991.

I am not surpriced, as it didn't really make any sense in the first place....  :)
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Magnus on January 20, 2014, 02:39:15 pm
This from Spike60 on double base gaskets on the 261 262!

Quote
Took a look but cannot find any such SB. Only 262 item concerning the base gasket was the change from the .7mm to 1mm gasket in 1991.

I am not surpriced, as it didn't really make any sense in the first place....  :)
Not to you that don't run saws, but it made a world of difference in the one I had and ran! I imagine it is hard to try out double gaskets in a computer IPL.
That said, not all do better with it. As said I had many here with double gaskets. Some do better with it, others not. I don't have them either, not all of the ones that has been here, but one I think is here some were with double gaskets. I see if I find it.

The later ones do well with or without gasket, not much differance in wood. The older ones I tried run without do better with gasket when tested in wood.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Spike60 on January 20, 2014, 03:04:49 pm
It should also be pointed out that not all of the older service bulletins are available in the digital libraries that we have access to. I recently got my hands on some old Jonsered books from a dealer that closed several years ago. There are a lot of SB's in those books that cannot be found on the corporate site.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: 660magnum on January 20, 2014, 03:07:28 pm
Wouldn't it be nice if there was someone who had nothing better to do than to scan all those and put them on the web?
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Magnus on January 20, 2014, 03:10:57 pm
I spent many hrs scanning so far and will do more when I get the urge, I hope others will do the same.

And there is even more info that you get In US that we didn't here and vice versa.

Tech support in late 80's could send memo's too to dealers that never showed up on any papers as well as what was said learned in the yearly tech meetings.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: 660magnum on January 20, 2014, 03:18:09 pm
I spent many hrs scanning so far and will do more when I get the urge, I hope others will do the same.

And there is even more info that you get In US that we didn't here and vice versa.

Tech support in late 80's could send memo's too to dealers that never showed up on any papers as well as what was said learned in the yearly tech meetings.

+1
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Cut4fun on November 12, 2017, 08:04:46 am
Just missed a 262xp yesterday for 65. Looked nice. Owner said once warmed up wouldnt run right. Figured seals or low psi. 
I was just going to go though it to sell anyways. Not into the 262.

See who says they found a cheap 262 online ;)  I have a good idea since it was 1hr 45mins north west.

Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 14, 2017, 07:07:35 pm
Was the HDA-87 the carb everyone seems to want on a 262?
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 14, 2017, 07:36:24 pm
Picked this one up today to go through. Has the little trap door deal on tank. HDA 87 carb. 

Low psi and thinking stuck ring being he said no scuffing on ext or int.



Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 14, 2017, 07:50:46 pm
Just digging up carb specs and info

Hda 120 vs 87
Venturi 15.08 vs 16.66 mm on Walbro home page
Throttle plate 17.4 vs 19mm


Saving more info Tor  shared with me.

K&S 90 and 91,  sometimes 92  once seen a 93.
87 carb was only used on them KS jugs

The only jug I dont like is the 48ZN15 jug, them lower transfers was small compared against KS, that said, the Mahle 48ZK and 48ZK3 is quite good, you find those jugs around 92-94.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: HolmenTree on November 14, 2017, 10:44:56 pm
The 262XP was unique though for its era. Introduced in 1990
First Husqvarna with air injection, a quick release air filter cover, spring anti vibe and had a rubber insulated intake manifold. All the features for the 372XP era.
For the life of me I can't  see why in 1990 when the 044AV was taking the 70cc market while Husqvarna only had a outdated 67cc 268XP, only to big bore it to a 272XP in 1993.
Then to take another 3 years at about 1996 to introduce a 71cc 371XP . Was another 3 years to finally have the 372Xp.

Back in 1990-91 it would have made sense to have big bored the 262XP and improve/ refine it from then on.
Title: Re: OK 262XP guys
Post by: Cut4fun on November 15, 2017, 09:43:50 am
Thinking magnus is talking about a SB stating coils changed to ducati from serial number and above.   ???

Acc to bulletin S.91126-01
The coil's are chainged from Serial 2170081 and are made by Ducati.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 15, 2017, 09:58:06 am
Think this is the first one with no decomp cylinder so it could be the K&S cylinder folks rave about and has HDA87 carb.

We will see. Never been impressed by a stock 262 yet.

Saving info  http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/63f53b18ca40a69888256d5a00166956



   
Model: 262 XP
   
MANUFACTURED BY:
      HUSQVARNA VAPENFABRIKS AB
      HUSKVARNA, SWEDEN
SERIES OR ASSEMBLY NUMBER:
      
YEAR INTRODUCED:
      1990
YEAR DISCONTINUED:
      1996
ENGINE DISPLACEMENT:
      62 cc (3.8 cu. in.)
NUMBER OF CYLINDERS:
      1
CYLINDER BORE:
      48mm (1.88 in.)
PISTON STROKE:
      34 mm (1.34 in.)
CYLINDER TYPE:
      Aluminum with chrome plated bore
INTAKE METHOD:
      Piston ported
MANUFACTURER ADVERTISED H.P.:
      4.8 hp (3.5 kW)
WEIGHT:
      5.8 kg (12.8 lbs.), powerhead only
OPERATOR CONFIGURATION:
      One Man operation
HANDLEBAR SYSTEM:
      Anti-vibration
CHAIN BRAKE:
      Inertia activated
CLUTCH:
      Centrifugal
DRIVE TYPE:
      Direct
CONSTRUCTION:
      Die cast magnesium, injection molded plastic
MAGNETO TYPE:
      Electronic Electrolux ET
CARBURETOR:
      Walbro HDA-87, 117, 120 series
MAJOR REPAIR KIT:
      K20-HDA
MINOR REPAIR KIT:
      D10-HDA
AIR FILTER SYSTEM:
      Nylon mesh cartridge
STARTER TYPE:
      Automatic rewind
OIL PUMP:
      Automatic, worm gear driven
MAXIMUM ENGINE RPM:
      13,500 max free after break in, 9,600 under load.
IDLE RPM:
      2,700
IGNITION TIMING:
      fixed
BREAKER POINT SETTING:
      none
FLYWHEEL/COIL AIR GAP:
      0.30 mm (0.012 in.)
SPARK PLUG TYPE:
      Bosch WSR7F/WS7F, NGK BPMR7A, Champion RCJ7Y
SPARK PLUG GAP:
      0.5 mm (0.020 in.)
CRANKSHAFT MAIN BEARINGS:
      Ball
FUEL TANK CAPACITY:
      600 ml (20.3 fl. oz.)
FUEL OIL RATIO:
      50:1
RECOMMENDED FUEL OCTANE:
      Regular grade
MIX OIL SPECIFICATION:
      Electrolux approved mix oil, Husavarna mix oil
CHAIN PITCH:
      3/8 in.
CHAIN TYPE:
      Oregon 72 or 73
BAR MOUNT PATTERN:
      01 link
SHORTEST GUIDE BAR SUPPLIED:
      33 cm (13 in.)
LONGEST GUIDE BAR SUPPLIED:
      51 cm (20 in.)
COLOUR SCHEME:
      Husqvarna Orange
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 15, 2017, 11:25:54 am
Just SMH.  Easy fix on yesterdays 262 pick.    Piston barely scuffed and ring not stuck.     K&S cylinder and piston.
Good thing I got this and not the other guy or someone else IMHO. 
Missing circlip and no base gasket.  Low psi = no base gasket or sealant was used. 

503704801
737431200

Tor info = 262 after s/n 3350195 + KS top end kit with an 87 carb would be my dream 262 setup!
Them KS's are easy to sort out against Mahle, cylinder foot flywheel side is labeled like 01 91 (its KS way to show when they where casted), most of them has a black dot paint on top on the jug, alu colour is more shinny compared against Mahle.





Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 16, 2017, 05:53:03 pm
Saving pics so can show before and after clean up. All appears original 1990. K&S P+C really should use new meteor p kit or oem p kit. But I am going to clean up the original K&S piston and crosshatch the cylinder to keep it all K&S with the HDA-87 carb.

Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: HolmenTree on November 16, 2017, 06:56:24 pm
Looking good.
I believe another unique thing about the 262XP is it was the first Husqvarna to get spring anti vibe.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 19, 2017, 12:11:11 pm
Parts came in Friday. But son came home from college too. So family first.   Back burner with hunting going on too. 
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun on December 01, 2017, 07:24:56 pm
Finally got back to this 262 this evening.  Back together and fired it off.  Will get back to it tomorrow I hope.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 01, 2017, 08:21:20 pm
Cleaned up cylinder and put crosshatch in with ball home. 
Cleaned up the K&S piston best I could to reuse with the K&S cylinder.    Trying to keep it right being first year 1990. New caber ring.

Pics







Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2017, 11:39:58 am
I must say with only 5 mins of test cutting this 262 impressed me. Not anywhere close to a broke in saw. Just rebuilt with new ring and new crosshatching.
Never said that with the mahle cylinder and 120 carbed 262's.
But this one has K&S cylinder and the bigger 87 carb. 
Sounds like a mad hornet in the cuts.  All stock notta done, screen and gaskets all still in, no mm etc.
Will be hard to let this one go.

Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2017, 01:03:49 pm
Will be comparing later to a 036 and 380 I have done in the past. 380 and this 262 not broken in.

036 muffler modded.  380 cant remember on muffler but ports work on some.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2017, 05:42:08 pm
had a rubber insulated intake manifold.

Something I noticed on this one and wonder if because it was first year 1990. 
It has a rubber intake block insulator like the 268xp  I had and take care of still, instead of like the one I seen on later year ones.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: wild262 on December 02, 2017, 09:33:23 pm
             I remember you said you wasn't impressed by them before.  Maybe the one you ran wasn't quite up to par!  Being the proud owner of 3 early 1990's models, I must say I really like them.  I had the later years as well, and have noticed the HDA 87 carb makes more of a difference the bigger wood your in as compaired to the 120 & 44 carbs.  Its the power to weight ratio part that I like.  Glad to see you stuck with OEM parts.  That does the saw justice.  If I were you I would keep it.  The early ones are getting harder to find with all OEM top ends. 
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2017, 06:20:56 am
             I remember you said you wasn't impressed by them before.  Maybe the one you ran wasn't quite up to par!  Being the proud owner of 3 early 1990's models, I must say I really like them.  I had the later years as well, and have noticed the HDA 87 carb makes more of a difference the bigger wood your in as compaired to the 120 & 44 carbs.  Its the power to weight ratio part that I like.  Glad to see you stuck with OEM parts.  That does the saw justice.  If I were you I would keep it.  The early ones are getting harder to find with all OEM top ends. 

The other 262's mahle cyl I have had ran fine for what they were. Guy that bought the last one said it run just like his 4-6 others.  Just preferred the 60cc poulans as they handle and feel better in the hands. Plus I think lighter too.

 No I am not impressed with most of the 262 saws out there. The ones with mahle cylinder and 120 carbs. They are over rated IMO still today.

This 262 is a first year 1990 with K&S cylinder and piston with bigger 87 carb. It runs night and day compared to a mahle cylinder versions I have had and ran in past JMO. 
Matter of fact I just passed on buying a mahle cylinder 262 because of that, even at dirt cheap price.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2017, 07:07:40 am
The bigger carb and this right here makes the difference. The factory porting IMO is a little hot rod on this cylinder.

Hda 120 vs 87
Venturi 15.08 vs 16.66 mm on Walbro home page
Throttle plate 17.4 vs 19mm

pics



Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: wild262 on December 03, 2017, 07:57:07 am
                I see where your coming from now about the Mahle cyl./120 carb.   All my 262's have the K&S cyl. with 87 carb, with the exception of one that has a 120.  That saw is a bit weaker than the other 2 in larger wood with all else being equal with timed cuts using same B&C.  I had forgot about the Mahle cylinders they put on them later in production. I have never ran one.  I also understand there was a 3rd cylinder version as well.  Been kicking around having 1 ported by Mastermind (Randy) in the future.          Weight is a mighty big deal for me since I had back surgery.  You said the Poulan was lighter.  What model would that be?
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2017, 08:43:48 am
                I see where your coming from now about the Mahle cyl./120 carb.   All my 262's have the K&S cyl. with 87 carb, with the exception of one that has a 120.  That saw is a bit weaker than the other 2 in larger wood with all else being equal with timed cuts using same B&C.  I had forgot about the Mahle cylinders they put on them later in production. I have never ran one.  I also understand there was a 3rd cylinder version as well.  Been kicking around having 1 ported by Mastermind (Randy) in the future.          Weight is a mighty big deal for me since I had back surgery.  You said the Poulan was lighter.  What model would that be?

husky 262 weight PHO dry   dont know if this one had metal or plastic clutch cover.

(https://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4625.0;attach=11735;image)



365 3500 3.7 60cc small carb small intake low tops

(https://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2922.0;attach=17114;image)


3750 380  big carb and big intake 60cc   high tops

(https://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2922.0;attach=16747;image)







Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: wild262 on December 03, 2017, 08:56:39 am
           Impressive.  That's not a lot heaver than my 346!  Now if I could only shoehorn the the K&S cylinder in one!  ;D LOL                   Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: CJ Brown on December 05, 2017, 10:52:17 am
Very nice 262XP Cut4fun! The earlier 1990 saws had a 4 bolt front muffler cover, as opposed to the 2 bolt cover that came on all subsequent 262XP's. Did you do a compression test on your saw after you installed the new ring?

Can't wait to read about your back-to-back testing between the 3 saws you mentioned.

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Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 05, 2017, 11:12:19 am
Havent checked psi as it has only been though a few cut sessions so far.   But feels good.  I am fighting the urge to sell it. I priced it then I think about it and how good it runs stock. This one makes the 562 I demoed look like a turd.

I ordered the carb rubber sleeve for the H L I to ease tuning.  Also thinking outer dawg too.

Then I flip and think of my dad and think I could put a dished 261 piston and the decomp turd mahl cylinder.  That should make it easy for him to start. 

Just torn on this saw as I have so many 60cc-65cc saws.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 05, 2017, 11:14:36 am
@CJ Brown

Here is the last test I did with them before the 262  https://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/test-in-11'-dry-ash-3450-380-3750-036/

Never had a good 262 or the lesser 262 to ever run back to back with any 036 I have at same time.

Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: HolmenTree on December 05, 2017, 02:54:02 pm
Here's the 262XP first advertisement from June 1990.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: HolmenTree on December 05, 2017, 03:06:04 pm
And another ad one month later.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 05, 2017, 04:18:14 pm
Cool seeing the ole ad pages. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: CJ Brown on December 05, 2017, 05:05:23 pm
"Just torn on this saw as I have so many 60cc-65cc saws."

I don't see the problem  ???
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: CJ Brown on December 05, 2017, 05:29:28 pm
If you order the outer dog you will need to elongate the mounting holes to get the inner and outer dogs to be in alignment. Either that or cut the dogs off the mounting flange and re-weld it back on in the proper position.

I think the 1990 262XP is the most desirable of the 262 models. It is the strongest runner, and has some different features (both cosmetic and performance) that the later models lack. I like the torx fasteners for instance, and the 87 carb and KS non-decomp cylinder set the standard that in the subsequent years weren't met. And the red "XP" on the recoil housing just looks race-ready haha. Not to mention, it's not every day that a 262XP in good condition comes up for sale, but just try to find a 1990 model - they are rare.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Revpop on December 05, 2017, 10:12:08 pm
My 55 Rancher is the same dog way, outer dog is forward of the inner dog ~1/8" or so.  I just left it alone on mine didn't really notice any problem it presents, unless OCD finally kicks in I guess.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 05, 2017, 10:19:20 pm
Outer dawg and inner rubber carb sleeve ordered.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: wild262 on December 05, 2017, 10:36:19 pm
Outer dawg and inner rubber carb sleeve ordered.
   Cut4fun.  Where are you ordering your 262 parts from?  I need the plastic collar ring that goes around the intake block.  I got photos to post, but there a bit to large and won't download.  Is there an easy way to do this?  Thanks
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 05, 2017, 10:52:08 pm
Outer dawg and inner rubber carb sleeve ordered.
   Cut4fun.  Where are you ordering your 262 parts from?  I need the plastic collar ring that goes around the intake block.  I got photos to post, but there a bit to large and won't download.  Is there an easy way to do this?  Thanks

I order from alot of different places. Where ever I find the parts I am looking for.  Sawagain is 1 of the many.  Eparts, etc.

I pay for the pic space out of pocket so the limited to 399kb per pic.  Resize them or use outside host or if smartphone Tapatalk will resize pics while posting.

This? 



Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 05, 2017, 11:05:32 pm
forgot outer pic


Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: CJ Brown on December 07, 2017, 08:40:54 am
Many 262XP parts are still available from your local dealer or many of the online dealers. For NLA parts, Ebay has always been a source, and there are a few sites on the internet that deal in used chainsaw parts - just google search for "used chainsaw parts".

I am finding that good used parts - especially plastics - are getting harder and harder to find. 10 years ago they were everywhere, but as the internet has matured, a lot of the parts hoards have been sold off and spread out all over the world. Now, you just have to be patient and spend the time digging and networking, and hope that eventually that hard-to-find part pops up and you are there to snag it.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2017, 10:22:44 am
Like to know more about the muffler cover outlet. When did they start doing the front little outlet deal. Never had one with it but have seen it in past?

Pic

Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: CJ Brown on December 07, 2017, 11:02:37 am
I see 3 different part numbers for that front cover:

503509601 - 1990 4 bolt design

503508601 - 1991 2 bolt design

503508602 - 1992-1998 2 bolt design

I have mufflers here from 90,91,92,93 and 98 as well as a NOS jungle type muffler. None have that opening on the front, so I can't say when/where that appeared. Any chance it was a mod by an owner? Or maybe the factory did a few "test" covers?
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2017, 11:11:51 am
Nope not done by someone IMO as I have  seen it on other saws in series before in past in pics. This one was a 261 posted on my Chainsaw Repair group.  Yesterday
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: CJ Brown on December 07, 2017, 11:12:47 am
Figured it out. That front cover is from 1999 2006 EPA 261

Part number: 503508603
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: CJ Brown on December 07, 2017, 11:14:30 am
Lol we must have a psychic connection - we were typing the same thing at the same time!
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2017, 11:14:57 am
503508603

shows it here



Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2017, 11:15:40 am
LOL now we got the info. Thanks   
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2017, 11:17:28 am
Hmmmm maybe another part I will buy if I keep this saw.

I priced it for $400 PHO shipped to a guy today on the CR group.  With the parts I have on order for it too. 
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: CJ Brown on December 07, 2017, 11:22:44 am
In the IPL for the 261 it also shows a screen that goes behind that ported front cover.

I think $400 is a good price - maybe even a touch low, but close to what I would ask and expect to get. I think we have both seen some of these go for crazy prices in the past - not sure if that market is still there or not. Regardless, yours is in very nice condition and is the rarest model, so it commands a premium in my books. Not to mention the work you have put into it.

If I had the coin I would take it off your hands :)
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2017, 11:28:32 am
I figure shipping 30-40 if east coast and 50-60 to west coast and was included it that 400 price. So if out of USA would have to price  and then do actual shipping cost.

$350-370 local would buy it cash in hand. 
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2017, 11:29:29 am
Is this the husqvarna 262 jungle muffler you spoke about?

Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: CJ Brown on December 07, 2017, 11:31:12 am
Yes it is.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: CJ Brown on December 07, 2017, 11:35:48 am
Shipping to Canada is right around $80 give or take. Then once it hits the border, the Kanadian Tax Nazis (KTN) sometimes assign a "value" to it and levy taxes and duties. It is definitely a deal killer. Best way to get a saw to Canada is a face-to-face meet up at a GTG, but that isn't always practical.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2017, 11:38:28 am
Yep I have bought and sold and traded back forth to BC and NS.  Have seen shipping in the low to mid 100 before to there with insurance.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: HolmenTree on December 07, 2017, 12:00:49 pm
That's crazy pricey Cut.
Few years back I sent by Canada Post a MS200 to Bermy (MasterBlaster Tree House member) in Tasmania.
It took 3 months for the saw to get there but it only cost $90 CDN.
Sold the saw for $300 and I told Bermy to donate the $390 to Masterbater Butch himself to help run the Tree House forum.
When I ordered a $20 Tree House Tshirt off him the cheap pr#ck sent me a shirt with mustard stains and stinking of sweat. He said "use lots of bleach."
What can you say about dealing with an idiot whose been on drugs all his life... Ha.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2017, 12:08:41 pm
Bigger more weight rear handle saws. Cost me 100-150 to Australia.   About 100-125 to Finland, Japan and the list goes on just like that.  Yes USPS Priority to Canada is crazy priced IMHO.

Sure that was a mustard stain  :o LMAO   :D :D :D :D

I only go Priorty when using USPS and the saws was to their locations overseas within weeks not months  :o
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2017, 09:10:01 am
Cutting dry ash in the dark so not good video. Pushing pretty good in the cuts. New rebuild breaking in on 1st tank still.   Forgot to strap the dang log down. 

https://youtu.be/4USzL58JCqc
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Tractorsaw1 on December 08, 2017, 11:45:24 am
Maybe its me - but I don't think its putting much shade on the 380 :)
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: HolmenTree on December 08, 2017, 12:11:42 pm
That 262 is pulling chips really good for running fat on its first tank.
I know exactly how tough dry ash is. I've cut tons of it over the years.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2017, 12:37:38 pm
Maybe its me - but I don't think its putting much shade on the 380 :)

The 380 is ported and base gasket removed and thinking muffler modded.  262 stock like you would have bought them. But nope real close  both unbroken in. But again you can feel the stronger saw in the cuts pushing.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2017, 03:21:55 pm
Outer dawg received and inside rubber carb sleeve put on

their not off much IMHO

Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: farmboy on December 09, 2017, 10:19:26 pm
I thought about elongating the stud holes and trimming the back off the same amount. To make them line up better.  I usually don't want to spend the time LOL  They are off the same on every saw 55, 261, 262.
Shep
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: CJ Brown on December 09, 2017, 11:30:36 pm
Original vs. modified outside felling dawg + mounted modified felling dawg.
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Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 10, 2017, 08:16:40 am
Looks good. I'm not going to do it. But will let next owner do it if he likes.   Cash talks and just waiting on $.   Looks like it is sold.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: CJ Brown on December 10, 2017, 08:37:49 am
Looks like someone is getting a nice saw for Christmas :)
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 10, 2017, 08:54:40 am
Looks like someone is getting a nice saw for Christmas :)

Maybe. Guy contacted me for PP addy when I was out in barn for 3hrs last night talking to Nate. So I just sent him info. Freaking shipping just shy of 50 since going NW US.   Figured 400 shipped good enough for me if we are both happy.  So 350 for saw basically. 
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: CJ Brown on December 10, 2017, 09:01:01 am
I don't think $50 is too bad to ship a saw all the way across the country. I was once quoted $40 to ship just a bar from PA to Ontario  :-\
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 10, 2017, 09:20:19 am
Same weight saw going to east coast is $30.  So $20 more but guessing double or more on the miles.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 10, 2017, 11:30:58 am
1990 262xp is paid for = SOLD   
Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 10, 2017, 12:53:31 pm
Just saving take down airing out for packing.  Sold to a collector out in the north west. Said going on the shelf and just to use every now and then.

Title: Re: Husqvarna 262XP 262 261
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 10, 2020, 01:56:34 pm
@CJ Brown  looking for  4 bolt 262 front muffler bracket.   

Searching for ya but dont know these that well.