Chainsaw Repair
Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Poulan => Topic started by: Cut4fun . on March 09, 2013, 10:27:50 am
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Poulan Pro Super 380 found. Look down at CL thread. looks nice in pic.
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Nice saw that is one I do not have. Just got my truck repaired so spending money on another saw right now is not going to happen. Thanks for posting the Pic though. It will give me something to go and look back to.
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I didn't know about that one. Is it sold?
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Wasnt yesterday. Is the link down in CL thread with price of $200 still.
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Shep the clutch spring part number is 530027160 for 3 shoe clutch. $2-$3 maybe 530014161 for 2 shoe clutch.
Poulan 380 IPL http://www.barrettsmallengine.com/partslist/poulanpropp380chainsaw.pdf
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Thanks, As many hrs I've spent poring over this series and knowing the 3450-3750 carry same clutch i don't know why I didn't check those IPL's. DUH!
Shep
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My Husky dealer got me the spring for $1.21. However, the spring is too big keeps the shoes pushed out enough that the chain turns when you pull starter. PN is right. Wrong spring in package? I may spring for a new clutch tired of waiting on parts. Dealer is 70 mi round trip have wait til we are goiing that way.
Put the cyl. cover and AF cover off of PP330. The AF cover covers one carb adj. screw. Looked it up the PP380 has a diff PN for the AF cover. Cyl. cover is the same. Looked @ Pats 380 AF cover is $22, 330-3750 is like $9. The 380 Pn doesn't cross to the 330,3450 PN. Didn't have a clue they would be different.
Shep
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I cant remember which saw. But I had a 330 or 3750 that the trim part on the air filter cover would cover 1 of the adjustment needles.
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Did a little more research on 380. Carrys a different tank/handle than 330-3450-3750. PN: 530069894 handle 380 only. Af cover is also different PN: 530069896 380 only. That would explain why the carb adj screw is covered. Was going to bid on the 330 last night w/ busted starter. Forgot it. Sold pretty cheap was supposed to be running. Did anybody here get it?
530027160 clutch spring is a Poulan, Electrolux and Husky PN. I ordered it as a Husky part maybe they are diff. I've done this a lot @ Jacks a lot when under Poulan the parts is cheaper under Poulan than under Husky never had a problem w/wrong part. Did I thoroughly confuse you?
Shep
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Could you get some closer pics of the 380 stuff compared to the 330.
Only 380 I have seen close was Ohiogreggs. Never paid attention and looked just like my 3750 in yellow.
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ohiogreggs.
Does yours have yellow tank or black tank like 1st post? Part number difference could be because it is a YELLOW tank and not black like on 330?
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It's Yellow that would explain diff. PN on tank. Checked the 330 one carb adj screw is covered on it too. Went and checked my 3450's covered on them too.
Shep
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Poulan 380 PP 380 PP380 IPL http://s30387.gridserver.com/partsDiagrams/Poulan%20Pro%20380.pdf
Look at the very end of this IPL and check out the bar options for the 60cc saws. Maybe for soft wood cutting.
22" from my experience in hardwood black oak was limits.
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Jon1212 has some NOS 24" K041 bars that were intended for these saws. Possibly 20" and 22" too.
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I've turned down some NOS 24" K041 bars for $15 apiece. Just didnt see a use for them here.
Thinking I was offered a free 22" the other day. Again I dont see a need here.
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I have two of the 22" bars and never use them. I like the 20" so that chains can be used on other saws also.
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Guy at work was wanting me to set a saw up with 24" on 60cc poulan to buy. I had to keep telling him I really dont think you will be happy in the hardwoods with it. Go 20" or bigger cc saw with 24".
I prob lost the sell but I still feel I was right. I told him I could get a 24" in for him to try on the 60cc to try out to see first hand. But he never took me up on it.
He did ask the other day why his chain keeps dulling right after sharpening. Gave him my thoughts. But never got to ask what saw or bar length.
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I have to agree with you Kevin, a 24" bar on a 60cc Poulan probably not good unless it has been ported some and the muff modified.
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Only showing sold 4 year?
PP 380 2001 $400.00
Engine Make: Poulan
Engine Size Cubic Centimeters: 60
Engine Size Cubic Inches: 3.7
Dry Weight: 13
Bar Oiler Type: Automatic
Bar Length: 20
PP 380 2000 $400.00
Engine Make: Poulan
Engine Size Cubic Centimeters: 60
Engine Size Cubic Inches: 3.7
Dry Weight: 13
Bar Oiler Type: Automatic
Bar Length: 20
PP 380 1999 $400.00
Engine Make: Poulan
Engine Size Cubic Centimeters: 60
Engine Size Cubic Inches: 3.7
Dry Weight: 13
Bar Oiler Type: Automatic
Bar Length: 20
PP 380 1998 $400.00
Engine Make: Poulan
Engine Size Cubic Centimeters: 60
Engine Size Cubic Inches: 3.7
Bar Oiler Type: Automatic
Bar Length: 20
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Pulled Jon1212's PoulanPro Super 380 back apart to replace the intake boot. Boot was leaking from where it'd stretched/torn at the flanged carb end next to where the bolts pass through. The new boot is covered with some sort of talc type preservative that makes it look grey. I was going to reassemble it with the new boot and swap in some new crank seals.............but that's on hold because...........
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I discovered that the PTO side case half is ckracked behind the tensioner screw. Tensioner screw was also bent. That leads me to believe that somebody tightened down the bar nuts with the tensioner peg not properly seated in the bar. This pushed the tensioner peg/nut into the case half. A 'scab' of the case is almost completely broken out and pushed into the oil tank.
Found that bit of good news today when I went to go work on the saw and noticed that it was sitting in a pond of bar oil (after it'd been sitting with a full oil tank). Now we need whether to decide to replace the cases, 'fix' the case half with JB, or have it welded. For now, I Rednecked it. Cut a piece of rubber (the stuff I use for blocking off exhaust/intake ports when doing a pres/vac test) and fitted it behind the tensioner. It's holding the bar oil in for now....
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I rednecked one in that area that was busted out in the square area under tensioner. Some JB and then Seal-all on top. The saw was in not long ago and it is still holding great and the guy runs the dog pizz out of the saw. 2 years or more and still holding.
Now Rogers fix welding is the best fix if splitting or another case.
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Aaron going to split and put in 380 thread.
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Got it. I'm leaning towards cleaning it out well and fixing it with JB....
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If you decide you want to weld it Aaron it is not a problem. But the case has to be split and the oil line needs to be removed where it is close to that area. Also the bearing should be removed because I will sand blast that area to get it clean and I can weld it. No charge for the weld job. That is very common and have seen that now on about 4 saws.
The JB weld does work pretty good also.
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I got the problematic PP S-380 back together. Replaced the crank seals and repaired the busted case section under the tensioner assembly with JB Weld. Seems to be holding. Damn metal carb plate didn't want to seat right against the new intake boot. Finally got it together right.
Runs fine, but wants to be at around 2 turns out on the H side and 1.25 or so out on the low side. To me that's a bit far out on the H side. It does run too rich if I open the H side further, and the idle speed does adjust normally. Four strokes when cutting load is lifted at WOT. Will run it a bit more before giving it back to the owner for piece of mind...
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Had to shave some of the cured JB out of the adjuster channel (using a 1/4" cold chisel) for adjuster nut/peg clearance. Seems to be holding. Straightened the adjuster screw and cleaned the burs off of the adjuster nut peg so it'd go in the bar hole.
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Quick cell phone ****-revving video. I need to get a GoPro for shooting cutting videos...
http://vid171.photobucket.com/albums/u318/Eccentric_photo/Jonathan%20Fudim%20saws/VID_20150425_174505128_zpsiavtiutw.mp4
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Sounds good. Have had H be there and further on these series.
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Looks really good, Aaron.
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Thanks Jonathan. I think you'll be happy with it. It's a strong running saw. Noticeably stronger than the PP330 I had (even after doing a muffler mod, replacing the ring, and deleting the base gasket on the 330). With a good chain, it'd out cut a stock 261/262XP.
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Looks good Aaron and I think the repair for the oil tank will hold fine. I really like the 60cc series saws like this that Poulan makes.
The 380 I take it compares to a 3750.
Sounds good by the way and looks like it has good throttle response.
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The PP380 is the gold cousin to the green 3750 like the PP330 is to the 3450. This PP Super 380 has the 60cc Gilardoni top end as well as the HDA137 carb and the heavy duty 3 shoe clutch (instead of the 2-shoe on the PP330).
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Nice saw.
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Found a poulan pro 380 60cc project saw. Going to have a lot of catching up to do after the winter buys. :P ::)
Said some issues. Cant remember them off hand.
But as I saw it getting it pics took yesterday.
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The PP380 arrived today. At one time it was a NY DOT saw and confirmed by the seller. Engraved in foot plate area.
Quick look see. Seen blue rtv sealer for base gasket. Impulse line ran through the cold air plug on right side of carb back area. Some marks on piston top of ring. All and all pleased but will need a good go through.
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Sounds good. That is the one saw in the 60cc range and of that particular Poulan design that I do not have. They are around but just not a lot of them. I think I have seen more Tim Allen 3750's than I have of the 380 super.
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Sounds good. That is the one saw in the 60cc range and of that particular Poulan design that I do not have. They are around but just not a lot of them. I think I have seen more Tim Allen 3750's than I have of the 380 super.
Roger I was only going to fix to sell local. IF you want to do the fixing etc for your collection. Just let me know.
Missing some fasteners, muffler bolt but checked cylinder threads and they are there and good.
Wonder if it has 137 or 164 carb :-\ Has mesh air filter.
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@3000 FPS I been watching this semi local one. Folks bidding stupid money IMO with 2 days to go LOL. Can tell income tax as arrived IMO http://www.ebay.com/itm/PP380-Super-Chainsaw-Reconditioned-With-90-Day-Warranty-Highest-Bidder-Gets-It-/142274827659?hash=item21203d958b:g:~jMAAOSwtfhYnjEz
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I saw that also and had been watching. You are right some stupid money there. Heck I think I bought a Husky 272 in good working condition for that kind of money. I mean I like my Poulans but not that much.
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Sounds good. That is the one saw in the 60cc range and of that particular Poulan design that I do not have. They are around but just not a lot of them. I think I have seen more Tim Allen 3750's than I have of the 380 super.
Roger I was only going to fix to sell local. IF you want to do the fixing etc for your collection. Just let me know.
Missing some fasteners, muffler bolt but checked cylinder threads and they are there and good.
Wonder if it has 137 or 164 carb :-\ Has mesh air filter.
Looking at IPL for PP 380 only 137 was on list. So unless someone switched the carbs. ;D
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Being I was just going to fix this PP380 up and resell to a firewood cutter. Glad to see a member wants to restore it for his collection instead.
:D just noticed it had been shipped to me with about 1/4 tank of ole mix. :o
Missing several fasteners on top cover, muffler bolt, carb base AF backing missing 1. Notice the NYS DOT engrave in base of tank I noticed when it came to me.
Switched the muffler to the side exit for new owner. Tried to call but dont know if the voice mail is your right #. Just wanting to know if you want the short dawg like came on this or the longer dawg like on a 330?
Has the heavy duty 3 shoe clutch still. Never did check to see if it was the 137 carb. Should be unless changed.
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Looking good Kevin.
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David was selling off his poulan projects and I was really hoping someone else would buy them ???. I waited and I was hoping, butttttt
nobody seen it as the parts lot that I did I guess. :P
So it looks like I have a Poulan pro 380 330 365 project saws coming. 8)
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Ha! I held out long enough. The 365 was calling me but I held fast.
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I had missed a NOS yellow tank for $40. Wish I had bought it but went to sleep. When checked on it next day it was sold.
I just wanted another yellow tank in case I build a 365 with big carb intake with low tops again. I want to do one in yellow and a 3500 with green tank same way.
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Decisions decisions. I put a T-3 3450 60cc and a 380 60cc on the bench. Trying to decide which to do first.
Just want to compare to this muffler modded 034 036 62cc I finished up.
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Putting together a PP380 today. Didnt want to use any of the NOS topend kits. So I just cleaned up and used a NOS piston I had installed in the PP365 that had a scored cylinder in the past. Some transfer had gotten on the piston during use over the couple years. The 365 cylinder wasnt cleaned as I good as I thought I had it. :'(
Put a new ring on.
I just used a used 380 cylinder I had on hand with parts saws. I used the drill and and ball hone to put a crosshatch on it.
Ran out of cylinder gaskets, so I used Dirko HT this time around instead of the Threebond 1194 1184 ( cant remember the # I have right now). 1104 1184 1194 all the same basically just the EPA keeps making them change the formula.
Put in some new rubber AV's etc and hope to hear it fire off soon.
Get a pic on the bench later. Just grabbing a break.
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echo line for fuel line and impulse line.
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Type 3 3450 60cc next on the clean up and go through list.
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Curious, what are you doing with those when your done?
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Curious, what are you doing with those when your done?
Not a clue not needed around here for sure.
The T3 3450 60cc / 3750 I would sell. The 380 I wouldnt sell when done unless it was a friend local. Only because I am using back up cylinder and not perfect piston. They understand what I do.
But I do have NOS topend kits that could make it right. But the NOS kits cost $.
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Done. Test cut in some ash.
Now once I get some time on new ring and fresh crosshatching. I can compare to the 62cc closed port 036. I had a 036 etc before but not when I had the 2 type saws at same time.
I know the 3750 open port 60cc I had ran right with the 262xp 62cc closed port I had. I preferred the poulan and my friend did too after cutting all day with both.
To the guy wanting to buy one. May I suggest this stock 3450 54cc 1 owner before I got it. Pulls 180psi stock. I bought it to put a NOS 60cc topend kit on it but cant do it to this one myself. It runs to good as is.
530069891 530069487 gasket kits
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Cleaning that type 3 60cc today. I noticed the little piece missing again beside the muffler that had broken off. Forgot about that over winter.
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Forgot to add that couldnt use the 3 shoe clutch. Had 1 part of center section broke, 2 of the shoes had broke areas and the spring was pieced together. ::) :D
So have the more common 2 shoe clutch on it.
The T3 saw 3 shoe clutch looks ok from my quick look today.
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I have not had any luck over in my neck of the woods in trying to locate a 3450/3750 60cc/61cc version. I can find a 3450BB 54cc but not one of those w/fins on top of cylinder. What gives? You seem to having them pouring out of the cracks everywhere over there.
If green T3 needs a home and no one local buys right away I be happy to have one.
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IMO the 2 shoe is a less problematic way to go anyhow, there are more parts available.
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Well to make it fair on a comparison of the 62cc stihl that is broke in and the 3750 60cc that is still on first tank.
3750 60cc is stock muffler modded, with base gasket in. On first tank still. New ring and cyl hone etc. Open port
034 036 62cc is stock, never paid attention if base gasket was in it. Never had to pull cylinder. Muffler modded. Closed port
380 60cc has some work done in cylinder. Base gasket delete and muffler modded. On first tank still. New ring and cyl hone etc. Open port
3450 54cc all stock. Nothing done as bought. 180 psi. Broke in. Open port
Will do some cuts in pine cant and ash log once some time on the 2 new rebuilds. Was using the 380 yesterday on some limbs that came out of the trees when the tornado came through Mon nite.
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Sometimes I just got to shake my head and laugh at my older self.
Setting up poulan 380 60cc with 24" 84dl 3/8 today. Well I grabbed a stock 330 54cc by mistake and started test cutting with the 24" full skip square filed chain in the cuts. Buried in dry ash log Eric Nicol left me so you know how big.
Well I thought man this ported 60cc is maxed out. Then I looked at cylinder and went DOH! I was doing this with a stock 54cc 330.
The 380 has a 330 recoil cover on it still too. But missing some bars.
Put 24" on 60cc and that was more like what I was expecting. No troubles with bar buried in cuts.
Pic to show difference in 54cc front and 60cc back for easy tel tell.
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Got Nate to order some 3 shoe clutches a couple of months ago. Came back NLA.
Shep
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I go by ordertree if in stock or NLA etc. Been NLA for a bit now as I looked for a guy a few months ago.
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The PP 380 that went wonky on me last time I was using it was like I thought. Just a seal.
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I never recall a tube like in the 330 mufflers in a 380. Anyone seen this before in 380?
2 shoe instead of 3 shoe too. No biggie to me. But just stuff I am noticing on this one.
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I have seen that pipe inside the muffler I believe on some PP 365 but I have not seen enough 380 supers to say if they ever came that way or not.
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The 380 above was 100 and shipping. I ended up passing on all of it. I just got to many waiting in line to be redone as it is.
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Guy I know in NY selling some saws off. PP380 etc with pics posted in chainsaw repair group. The good 3.3 I like too.
NY
Posting up some saws. Poulan 330, poulan 380, poulan 330 with a 380 cylinder kit, poulan 365, craftsman 3.3 with case. 150 plus shipping for the 60cc saws 125 for the 330 and for a 3450 timber master has some damage around the throtle and switch. and 100 for the craftsman all prices plus shipping. All saws listed have had new lines and carb cleaning, some had new mufflers and ring
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So the Super 380 came with black or yellow fuel tank and handle.
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Yes have seen both used on them. See the last 2 pics showing black ones on 2 different saws.
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No NOS 60cc 380 3750 topend kits left. Last one sold today.
Just so folks dont waste time pming on nos, only used kits left and 1 nos piston kit.
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Guy on CR group and here needed a 60cc topend. Told him NP I have a runner I will pull down and include the NOS oem piston I used in a 365 and this 380 test saw. I figure $50 isnt bad for a compete 60cc used topend.
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Thinking about using the used 60cc topend kit I found yesterday to put this PP380 back together. Going to steal a carb for it too from another parts saw. being I used that too at one time.
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Getting some saws ready to go. Sold the PP330 and used 60cc topend kit.
Funny seeing 60cc cylinder when it came in. Could see the carbon building up around the exhust port and trying to stick the ring.
Also trading PP365 and poulan 3500 60cc project saws that scored. Just from my quick looking both had broken impulse lines.
Getting some D009 bars in trade 24" Tsu LW 050 and a jonsered 24" 058 oregon powermatch with new LGX that been sharpened once I am told. Dont know if I am going to keep the bars. Maybe a collector type would want the jonsered bar?
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Loaded better pics of the bars above. I think they are both spoke for on CRG
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Guy in CRG FB selling these. If you want me to get his contact info.
Poulan pro super 380
Runs and oils good
16 Inch Bar
Looking to get 175.00 plus the ride
Poulan 4000
Runs and oils good
No bar or chain
Looking to get 150.00 plus the ride
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Benwa Same yellow sticker on the one I sent Roger. Guy in my CRG posted a pic of his 380 there.
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How about some pictures that you can actually see.
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Thank you Roger.
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Saving info from Tim aka fossil
It's a CSA sticker. Canadian Standards Association. Some type of safety reg approval. It looks like that saw was either destined for Canada or made and returned to the US.
Once upon a time (at least up to the early '80's and until???) UL stuff was not accepted in Canada and required a CSA approval and vice versa.
Now both organizations' standards are generally accepted by both countries.
Z62.1 is for anti kick back stuff and Z62.3 pertains to chainsaw design. It's hard to get the full reg as all these organizations sell copies at pretty high prices.
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Got a call last night to dig for some of my NOS parts. Here you go. Poulan 380 3750 3450 330 pulley and a HDA-137 carb. Plus the 3450 I was using on the hill clearing logging road few months ago.
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Got a call last night to dig for some of my NOS parts. Here you go. Poulan 380 3750 3450 330 pulley and a HDA-137 carb. Plus the 3450 I was using on the hill clearing logging road few months ago.
All was picked up yesterday. SOLD
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Poulan 380 super. Guy in Canada found never been fueled.