Chainsaw Repair

Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Husqvarna => Topic started by: brokenbudget on April 14, 2013, 06:25:04 pm

Title: husky 254
Post by: brokenbudget on April 14, 2013, 06:25:04 pm
was this a good deal?
http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-other-chainsaw-W0QQAdIdZ474575640
 ;D ;D
i jumped on it. said it was 'tired'. just needed a small tune.
i'll get pics of it tonight when i'm not busy :)
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: brokenbudget on April 14, 2013, 07:45:47 pm
ok so i call and ask him if it's a 254. he says nope, it's a 234, runs but just doesn't pull as it used to. now, i need to also explain he has a stihl ms440 he says is the same way. also asking $30 for it, but he said somebody is already coming out for that one. i looked at it and all that's wrong with it is the muffler screen. totaly plugged. he said he'll call me if the guy doesn't show up ;) it's in basicly dirty, buy VERY good shape.
so i get it here and turn some screws a little and throw a good chain (the one that was on it was at its end and shot) on it and put it to some wood. runs very very well.... 8) all in all i have 40 bux into it including me fuel to go get it.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/34qn59c.jpg)
(http://i49.tinypic.com/24bqk2t.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/jjo6mv.jpg)
(http://i48.tinypic.com/28cjdyx.jpg)
(http://i49.tinypic.com/14bp5pk.jpg)
(http://i49.tinypic.com/mvhpvr.jpg)

everything works as it should. it's in pretty good shape, the comp feels excelent but i haven't put a tester on it yet. maybe tomorrow. imma gonna put a new cord in the starter, need to get a kill switch, it works but it's broken. same for the choke lever. maybe add a new fuel filter. i like it. nice little saw.
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: 660magnum on April 14, 2013, 08:31:42 pm
Nice chainsaw I hope you enjoy.

Looks like you have a piece of bowling alley floor for a work bench?

I have a maple one. The AMF company was here in town until in the late 80's.
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: brokenbudget on April 14, 2013, 08:49:32 pm
mines just a regular 2x4 top somebody made a long time ago :) it came with a 26'x35' shop the old man and i tore down and rebuilt about 13-14 years ago. good and solid. :)
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: 660magnum on April 14, 2013, 08:56:48 pm
Looks like all the (bowling alley floor) work benches around this town with the draw bolts through the sides?
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: brokenbudget on April 14, 2013, 09:29:00 pm
done the same way. but the wood is spruce. came from a rigging shack from an amonium nitrate/ nitric acid plant dad and i were working at. the shack became my old shop. :) it's just threaded rod, washers and nuts holding the wood together. every once in a while i need to retighten the bolts and tap the wood back down flat  :D
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: SawTroll on April 15, 2013, 01:56:28 pm
A 1988 254 for sure - they weren't designated xp yet at that time though.
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: brokenbudget on April 15, 2013, 02:34:32 pm
you're right. habbits are hard to break and i always seem to be adding that 'xp' onto every numeration of huskies, regardless of model. :)
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: SawTroll on April 15, 2013, 06:03:56 pm
you're right. habbits are hard to break and i always seem to be adding that 'xp' onto every numeration of huskies, regardless of model. :)

The story actually is a bit odd with the early 254 and 242 saws. They didn't initially get either the se designations of their predessessors - nor the xp designation, that already had replaced the se one on other models, by that time (1987).
Then they got the xp designation some years later.
To confuse us further, some (254 saws) had se on the tag, but no letter designation anywhere else, and some had se on the tag, and xp elsewhere.

I have no real clue why it was that way.  ???
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: brokenbudget on April 15, 2013, 06:34:04 pm
well the plot thickens. :)
decided to try the comp tester on it to see what kind of pressure it makes. 160psi., not too shabby. ok the muffler needs to come off, wanna see how it looks in there. not too good. not unfixably horrible, but not the way i want to run a saw. or sell it when i get bored of it ;) the cylinder is in very good shape, piston has some streaks, skirts are getting thin and she's got a mirror finish too boot.
BUT! before i pulled the cylinder, i noticed it looked like somebody had put the piston in backwards. yep, pin in the center of the exh. port. so off comes the cylinder, only to see the 'E' sitting right there over top of the pin. ??? SO I TOOK A BIG EFFIN HAMMER TOO HER!
no not that. yanked the piston off to take a pic. :)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/34rgdgz.jpg)

there's no markings on the piston to tell me what it is, other than a '2811' on the inside, and '046056' opposite of it. it does look like an older tecomec, when they actualy made a semi quality product, and they were known to screw up where the 'E' was supposed to go. but hey, i'm not too familair with the insides of the 254, so maybe it's correct? i highly doubt it but... going to order up a new piston for it anyway, anybody have any idea what newer husky wil have what i need?
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: SawTroll on April 15, 2013, 07:44:34 pm
Sorry, can't help regarding the piston.

What brand is cylinder, KolbenScmidt, Mahle, or something else?
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: brokenbudget on April 15, 2013, 08:51:59 pm
it's a mahle. i ended up ordering the piston choke lever and kill switch from chainsawr. the piston is an after market, no idea what brand but it looks like the same company that i've used before that probably makes them for a multitude of other names and have been nothing but top quality. hudsons has the ring in stock, and i'll be picking that up in the morning. the piston won't be here until late next week so i have time to do some cleaning.
the bottom end is very good. basicly like new.
i only ran it for about 10-15 minutes but i dig the way this saw feels in the hands. has a good solid feel to it. nice and tight. even with the porblems, it pulled strong. actualy pretty damn strong. so i'll be happy to see what it's like after a bit of cleaning up and refresh.
nothing broken, stripped or cobbled. just a high hour saw.
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: brokenbudget on April 16, 2013, 11:28:37 am
here's more pics of the piston. gotta feelin it's aftermarket. the person who put it together (and the person that opened it back up to 'clean' up the piston) must not have been using common sense and blindly followed the arrow in the wrong direction.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/25ge7up.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/fbvnv4.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/beh9a0.jpg)
(http://i47.tinypic.com/24box09.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/iwhd2e.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/34rca6r.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/a13bk0.jpg)
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: SawTroll on April 16, 2013, 02:11:30 pm
That is of course likely!
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: Magnus on April 18, 2013, 03:59:48 am
On original pistons there is a arrow pointing direction.

I haven't seen this E on any here. I have seen letter markings that indicate what piston go to what cylinder, it could be that i guess.
A, B, C, D I have seen.
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: Spike60 on April 18, 2013, 12:55:18 pm
Great score at that price!  :)
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: brokenbudget on April 18, 2013, 01:12:55 pm
thanks! oh yeah i couldn't pass it up :)
looks like the piston has just passed through customs :D gots to get some time clean the rest of the saws up now. too many people coming over to get their saws running. been the past 3 days. we had a bit of a windy day 4-5 days ago and now it seems everbody wants to do some yard cleaning. :)
gotta get some time to run the 'other' poulan 2800 i put together a couple weeks ago. :) haven't even fired it yet. :'(
Title: Re: husky 245xp
Post by: brokenbudget on April 18, 2013, 06:04:36 pm
not yet. customs decided to hold onto it for a while longer. it was released last night and is now once again 'in transit' >:(
Title: Re: husky 254
Post by: brokenbudget on April 28, 2013, 07:00:54 am
the piston showed up a few days ago along with the choke lever, a couple av isolaters, and kill switch. the saws basicly all back together, just the top handle, cover and muffler need to go on. painted the muffler last night, need the throw it in the oven for a few heatings to cure it. i'll post some pics tonight when i get home. gotta go and help build a pool gazebo :)
Title: Re: husky 254
Post by: SawTroll on April 28, 2013, 03:15:53 pm
here's more pics of the piston. gotta feelin it's aftermarket. the person who put it together (and the person that opened it back up to 'clean' up the piston) must not have been using common sense and blindly followed the arrow in the wrong direction.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/25ge7up.jpg)
..... 

I'm not really sure what I see there, but the symbol close to the centre of that picture makes me think KolbenSchmidt (a S superimposed over a K?  ???
Title: Re: husky 254
Post by: brokenbudget on April 28, 2013, 07:03:31 pm
here's more pics of the piston. gotta feelin it's aftermarket. the person who put it together (and the person that opened it back up to 'clean' up the piston) must not have been using common sense and blindly followed the arrow in the wrong direction.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/25ge7up.jpg)
..... 

I'm not really sure what I see there, but the symbol close to the centre of that picture makes me think KolbenSchmidt (a S superimposed over a K?  ???

 it looks like a cross in a box, with the outer box missing a couple of areas, making the center cross look like an 's' sort of.
Title: Re: husky 254
Post by: 660magnum on April 28, 2013, 07:13:38 pm
Looks like Kolbenschmidt  (K over S) to me? Look and see if the same square is on the outside of the cylinder? The "E" is for "Einlass" or inlet

(http://i48.tinypic.com/25ge7up.jpg)
Title: Re: husky 254
Post by: brokenbudget on April 28, 2013, 07:25:27 pm
so here's the piston i recieved. forester brand. looks pretty darn good.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/5krtba.jpg)
arrow points the right way 8)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/112bx1j.jpg)
that's better :)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2m6rf68.jpg)
basic simple muffler mod.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/4r3syf.jpg)
should flow just fine.
(http://i40.tinypic.com/fjf2io.jpg)

all back together. just waiting on a chain and still need to pull the clutch to toss a new spur on.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/1jnc6c.jpg)
Title: Re: husky 254
Post by: brokenbudget on April 28, 2013, 07:30:12 pm
the cylinder is a mahle. :)
e for intake huh? i can see how that would mess with peoples heads. right off the start e stands for exhaust is what everybody would first think. i myself have never seen a piston marked like that, but makes sense. i would have put it in with the pin on the intake side regardless  ;D                                   


Looks like Kolbenschmidt  (K over S) to me? Look and see if the same square is on the outside of the cylinder? The "E" is for "Einlass" or inlet

(http://i48.tinypic.com/25ge7up.jpg)
Title: Re: husky 254
Post by: brokenbudget on April 28, 2013, 07:43:39 pm
a while back somebody was asking the best or easiest way to get the spring back in to a pull start.
here's my way for most. don't mind the little bit of fumbling. i'm on stupid antibiotics and pain killers for that damn toof again. >:(
(http://i41.tinypic.com/k6ys4.jpg)

crappy vid and the uncle was realy liking my new dewalt 12v drill/impact kit. couldn't shut up about them :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1PStfDH_fE
quick and easy.
Title: Re: husky 254
Post by: brokenbudget on April 28, 2013, 07:47:09 pm
guess i need to take the gloves off and let them fingers get some light ;D
Title: Re: husky 254
Post by: 660magnum on April 28, 2013, 08:07:06 pm
There's nothing to it . . . Hurry up and bolt the pulley on before the spring jumps out!

But I remember struggling with this some 40-50 years ago but I would eventually get it done this way.

My first attempts were trying to wind the spring up and place it in the pocket. The spring would get loose and jump all over the place.
Title: Re: husky 254
Post by: brokenbudget on April 28, 2013, 08:38:52 pm
oh yes i know those type :) then you get the ones that try and catch you when running away. had a few stitches put in from a run in with a pioneer holiday spring. that one would not sit in there. can't remember how we got that one in finally :-*
i like the pull starts that have the slot so you can just use the pulley to twist the spring in to place.
Title: Re: husky 254
Post by: SawTroll on April 30, 2013, 12:08:04 pm
the cylinder is a mahle. :)
e for intake huh? i can see how that would mess with peoples heads. right off the start e stands for exhaust is what everybody would first think. i myself have never seen a piston marked like that, but makes sense. i would have put it in with the pin on the intake side regardless  ;D                                   


Looks like Kolbenschmidt  (K over S) to me? Look and see if the same square is on the outside of the cylinder? The "E" is for "Einlass" or inlet

(http://i48.tinypic.com/25ge7up.jpg)
Both KolbenScmidt and Mahle made (OEM) top ends for those saws, as was the case with the 262xp.