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Title: 630 Super2
Post by: Iron City on March 31, 2011, 04:26:59 pm
Where can I get a shop manuel?
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: Cut4fun on March 31, 2011, 06:21:55 pm
Whats the difference in 630 and 630 super?

Here is a service manual for 630. Plus 625 670 2036 2040 2041 2045 2050 2054 2055 2077 2083 2095

http://weborder.jonsered.com/order_static/doc/JWEN/JWEN1996/JWEN1996_1080715-04.pdf
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: SawTroll on March 31, 2011, 06:40:10 pm
The 630 was the Super II when that manual was issued.
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: Iron City on March 31, 2011, 06:41:34 pm
Nothing really that I know of.  Thanks for the link.  Looks exactly what I'm looking for.
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: man of stihl on March 31, 2011, 06:49:06 pm
Whats the difference in 630 and 630 super?

Here is a service manual for 630. Plus 625 670 2036 2040 2041 2045 2050 2054 2055 2077 2083 2095

http://weborder.jonsered.com/order_static/doc/JWEN/JWEN1996/JWEN1996_1080715-04.pdf
the 630 super is a newer model with an ignition change. thats about the only difference.
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: SawTroll on March 31, 2011, 07:05:07 pm
The 630 Super II was introduced 1991 week 17.

Super II changes (http://weborder.husqvarna.com/order_static/doc/JBEN/JBEN1991/JBEN1991_B9100014.pdf) (scroll a bit down in the document).
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: SawTroll on March 31, 2011, 08:01:33 pm

 the 630 super is a newer model with an ignition change. thats about the only difference.

Look at the link I posted above.....
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: man of stihl on March 31, 2011, 08:17:50 pm
seems a bit more than just the ignition ;)
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: SawTroll on March 31, 2011, 08:35:10 pm
seems a bit more than just the ignition ;)

Yes... ;D
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: Spike60 on April 01, 2011, 07:56:46 am
There are a few more changes than the ignition. (many of which parallel the changes from the Husky 266 to the 268). The case was changed to accomodate the single coil ignition. That change moved the front bolt hole for the top cover about a half inch, so new and older style covers do not swap back and forth. The new top cover was also taller in order to accept a taller muffler. Putting a newer muffler on an older saw results in the older top cover resting on it causing it to melt. The old low profile muffler is NLA from either Jonny or Husky, so hang on to any decent example you come accross. The II's are also a slightly darker red.

None of this is all that significant performance wise, it's just that if you've got a project going, you need to know what fits and what doesn't.
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: Spike60 on April 01, 2011, 01:27:57 pm
pics of 630 Supers. Two of my favorites.  :)


Early on the left, II on the right. Also notice they have different style chain brakes. Not the best angle, but you can see the differnce in the locations of the front top cover bolts.


(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2100p26837266husky/630111.jpg)
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: Spike60 on April 01, 2011, 01:30:44 pm
Not sure why that didn't resize, but it's a good close up!
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 01, 2011, 04:59:12 pm
Spike, I will upload to my photobucket and re post it for you.  Right now I just made it a smaller attachment, but it dont look as nice as PB pic would.

 ;D
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: SawTroll on April 01, 2011, 05:30:15 pm
Nice looking saws!   ;D
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: Old Iron Logging on April 01, 2011, 07:50:59 pm
One of the best saws ever. Still alot in use down here.
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: Spike60 on April 02, 2011, 06:43:43 am
One of the best saws ever. Still alot in use down here.

Same in this area; plenty of them still going strong. I think the 630's do have a fairly high survival rate, but we also have to keep in mind that it had a longer production run than most of the models that were produced on that chassis.

You'd have thought that Husky would have kept a model in the line up with that P&C after the 162SE gave way to the 266SE. I think it was a few years before the 262XP arrived, but I'm not sure how many at the moment.

Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: chainsman1 on April 02, 2011, 10:40:47 am
i did put a 272 top end on a 630 super 1st generation and i had to cut the top cover to allow the spark plug cap to fit in there. maybe a 630 super 2 have more space...
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: SawTroll on April 02, 2011, 12:09:26 pm
......

You'd have thought that Husky would have kept a model in the line up with that P&C after the 162SE gave way to the 266SE. I think it was a few years before the 262XP arrived, but I'm not sure how many at the moment.

The availiable info indicates about 7 years, but I don't trust all of it.  ;D

The oldest 262xp I have seen was made around mid 1989.
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: Spike60 on April 03, 2011, 09:27:06 am
i did put a 272 top end on a 630 super 1st generation and i had to cut the top cover to allow the spark plug cap to fit in there. maybe a 630 super 2 have more space...

That's correct. If you take a close look at the pics of my two saws, you'll notice a slight difference in the air filter/plug covers. Plus the II cylinder cover is a bit taller due to the taller muffler.
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: HolmenTree on April 04, 2011, 12:04:06 pm
Here is a pic from 1983 where I'm in a competition with my woods ported Jonsered 630.
Look close and you can see the worlds very first Oregon PowerMatch bar prototype. Also under the sprocket cover is Oregon's very first radial ported rim sprocket prototype. I field tested these on the job for Omark at the time. The silver grinding area on the nose is where their laser etched I.D. number is

Willard.
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: jred630bb on April 07, 2011, 08:45:20 pm
My 630 is my most used saw. I feel there one of the best firewood saws. Rick
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: chainsman1 on April 08, 2011, 09:16:51 pm
My 630 is my most used saw. I feel there one of the best firewood saws. Rick


i agree with you rick
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: sharkey on April 10, 2011, 01:27:33 am
Pretty cool about the Oregon bar, see it has the banana tip.
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: HolmenTree on April 10, 2011, 02:50:48 am
sharkey I have been on all kinds of chainsaw sites for years now and you're the first person that has responded knowing what a banana tip is.
Yes that is a banana tip but was replaced by the "Double Guard" tip that came out a few years later.  Now a days the Double Guard is no longer on a Power Match bar, its now just a one piece  laminated piece of crap.

Willard. :)
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: SawTroll on April 10, 2011, 11:15:09 am
The Oregon Selector guide still list some Power Match Double Guard bars, but of course not the "banana tip".
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: Cut4fun on April 10, 2011, 11:30:02 am
I never heard them called them banana tip down here. I call them hog nose bars.   

I have oregon 20" 16" for the JD and had new oem hognose bars in 10" 12" 14" 16' in A041 for top handle poulans.
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: HolmenTree on April 10, 2011, 12:05:42 pm
The Guard Tip [banana nose] came out in 1978, I tested one of the originals too. They were only in the 3 rivet medium contour and slimline contour Oregon bars. The one in my photo was the only banana nose on the PowerMatch bar ever, never was put into production.
Stihl got into hot water over a article they published in Chainsaw Age magazine back in the early 1980s. They stated with a photo that if the banana nose bar was put on the saw upside down kickback would increase greatly. Of course that never was the issue and a few months later Stihl put in another article and apologized and said being put on upside down would not increase kickback energy.

I'll try and dig those two articles up and post them here later.

I believe your right SawTroll Oregon may still list some of the PowerMatch bars with Double Guard tips in some parts of the world , but the consumer laminated ones have basically replaced it.


Willard.
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 10, 2011, 12:30:52 pm
Willard I just looked, all my hognose bars but one is laminated.  Here is the 16" on the JD.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Clinton268272xp/D55hognosebar005.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Clinton268272xp/D55hognosebar006.jpg)
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: HolmenTree on April 10, 2011, 01:41:15 pm
Yep you got in that photo a Guard Tip on a slimeline contour bar. The slimeline which has 3 rivets on a "stepped joint" replaced the medium contour bar around 1981. The medium contour bar was wider in the belly and had a "1/4 moon joint". I think I e-mailed you a picture of that bar from one of my race bars a while back.

Willard.
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: SawTroll on April 11, 2011, 06:33:48 pm
.......   I believe your right SawTroll Oregon may still list some of the PowerMatch bars with Double Guard tips in some parts of the world , but the consumer laminated ones have basically replaced it.


Willard.

I looked it up on the Canadian site, since you live in Canada. The few exemples I looked up listed them in .050 only, so they may well be on their way out of the assortment........
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: Old Iron Logging on April 11, 2011, 09:03:14 pm
Just checked my Oregon catalogue. The Double Guard #'s are in red italics which means that they are discontinued. Available as NOS only.

Replacement tips are still listed however.
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: SawTroll on April 13, 2011, 08:10:33 pm
Well, I see no reason to miss them..... ;D
Title: Re: 630 Super2
Post by: HolmenTree on April 14, 2011, 11:47:05 am
Well, I see no reason to miss them..... ;D
Back in the day when our forestry company was still logging with all chainsaws the Double Guard or banana nose tips proved their worth with our short 16" -20" bars .
With a couple hundred chainsaw operators working with these manditory bars kick back injuries were almost non existent. Only times someone got cut was when they tripped and fell on their saw when the chain was still turning. I remember one faller got a serious kickback to the face and the foremen found out he was using a regular large nosed bar.
When cutting small to medium sized timber with a short bar I found the safety nosed bars were really smooth  with hardly any vibration and excellent control while falling, limbing and topping.
 I have seen many veteran fallers in our neck of the woods with scars on their faces from kick backs they received back in the days [1960s, early -mid 1970s] before the safety nose bars came out.
Our high powered saws with short bars create alot of kickback energy. I believe I was banned because of a rant I got into over at AS on this same subject. :D

Willard.