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Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Poulan => Topic started by: man of stihl on February 26, 2011, 07:35:44 am


Title: Poulan 505
Post by: man of stihl on February 26, 2011, 07:35:44 am
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my pp 505 project
Title: Re: poulan projects
Post by: man of stihl on February 26, 2011, 07:37:28 am
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Pictures\saw pics\saw pics 025
Title: Re: poulan projects
Post by: man of stihl on February 26, 2011, 06:29:11 pm
y Pictures\stuff\stuff 278.jpg
before muriatic acid
Title: Re: poulan projects
Post by: man of stihl on February 26, 2011, 06:30:50 pm
My Pictures\stuff\stuff 279.jpg
after muriatic acid :)
Title: Re: poulan projects
Post by: Cut4fun on February 26, 2011, 06:41:58 pm
Did you measure the bore? Is it the 505 82cc and did you find the right ring for replacement.
Title: Re: poulan projects
Post by: man of stihl on February 26, 2011, 07:01:29 pm
the bore measured 54mm and the ring should be in monday or tuesday. 8) the 475 is 52mm.correct?
Title: Re: poulan projects
Post by: man of stihl on February 26, 2011, 07:23:27 pm
My Pictures\saw pics\stuff.jpg
the piston cleaned up well also. i dont have a before pic :-[
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: man of stihl on February 28, 2011, 06:42:33 pm
i did a light port job on the cylinder tonight. both ports seemed real wide. about 2mm from piston witness lines so i left the sides alone. raised the roof in the exhaust a little. lowered the intake a little.cleaned out casting flaws in piston windows. replaced gasket with threebond 1194. put the cylinder back on. did a compression test got 150 psi. ;D ;D ;D.  i'll finish tomorrow i hope.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: mdavlee . on February 28, 2011, 07:35:17 pm
Do you have the rev-limited green coil in it?
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: man of stihl on February 28, 2011, 08:39:20 pm
Do you have the rev-limited green coil in it?
well the coil is green! :'( finished putting it together. i couldn't stand it. i had to see how it runs. seems to run good. nice throttle response. idles ok too. ;D
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Modifiedmark on February 28, 2011, 10:10:58 pm
Do you have the rev-limited green coil in it?
well the coil is green! :'( finished putting it together. i couldn't stand it. i had to see how it runs. seems to run good. nice throttle response. idles ok too. ;D

If your coil is green it is rev limited. To about 10K at that.

Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: man of stihl on March 01, 2011, 04:46:53 am
Do you have the rev-limited green coil in it?
well the coil is green! :'( finished putting it together. i couldn't stand it. i had to see how it runs. seems to run good. nice throttle response. idles ok too. ;D

If your coil is green it is rev limited. To about 10K at that.
what coil do i need then?
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: man of stihl on March 01, 2011, 05:28:11 pm
took the 505 out and cut some wood. pretty impressive. might give my 660 a scare ;D. i noticed i was on the coil limiter though >:(
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Modifiedmark on March 01, 2011, 06:19:52 pm
I don't want to go through looking up the part # again it superceds about 100 times.  ;D

Basically you want a 55 Husky coil. 50,51,55, 262, 61, 268, 272 all use the same coil and will work.

I used coils from a 55 on my 475's and you will sure enjoy being able to tune the carb without it limiting out at 10K.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: man of stihl on March 01, 2011, 06:22:14 pm
I don't want to go through looking up the part # again it superceds about 100 times.  ;D

Basically you want a 55 Husky coil. 50,51,55, 262, 61, 268, 272 all use the same coil and will work.

I used coils from a 55 on my 475's and you will sure enjoy being able to tune the carb without it limiting out at 10K.
thats great! thanks for the info! ;)
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun on March 01, 2011, 06:49:27 pm
Mark did you have to retime the flywheel to use the 272 coil?

I know on the 3120 had to re-time flywheel with 272 coil. I used a older Jonsered coil in place of a 272 that I didnt have at the time. What a difference it made in a stock 3120 limiting at 10.5K and going to 13.2K, no more bumping limiter in the cut with it after that. 
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun on March 01, 2011, 06:50:07 pm
Also 415 coil is unlimited  ;D
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Modifiedmark on March 01, 2011, 10:06:49 pm
Also 415 coil is unlimited  ;D

Correct and if you run the numbers I wouldnt be surprised to see it come up to the same 55 coil. Elux shareing the parts you know.  ;D

The 475 and 505 and there Jonsered counterparts were the only ones limited as far as I know. Thing is the manuls say 13,500 rpm for them but plainly they changed that.

My 475 is still fourstroking at 14,500 but it has more compression then stock.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/391/4d0.mp4
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun on March 02, 2011, 06:38:49 am
Link didnt work MM.  :'(
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun on March 02, 2011, 02:30:13 pm
Dug up the info I had on coil  used in place of 272 coil on my 3120xp. Jonsered 625 670 and Husky later models 268 61.

I used one of the Jonsered 625. Just so you have other options.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: man of stihl on March 02, 2011, 04:51:39 pm
ok thanks :)
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: man of stihl on March 05, 2011, 02:02:05 pm
 pics\stuff 001.jpg
got the break handle put on, replaced the 505 limited coil with a partner 500 unlimited coil. ready for the next gtg ;D
any body need a pp505 or j red 2083 green coil?;)
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 05, 2011, 03:01:51 pm
Sweet.  So the Partner 500 5000 coils direct bolt in?  Also was it the blue or black coil out of the 500?

Blue dont mean rev-limited in 500 5000 like the huskys.  ;)   I have only had 1 5000 with blue coil so far and it was the strongest one stock so far. I still dont know why, but a retired racer told me the blue coil was the best in the 3 cube partner builds.  I have no clue why, but all mine have been black coils in the hotter 5000's and never tried the blue coil.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: man of stihl on March 05, 2011, 03:31:41 pm
yes, it was a direct bolt on and it is a black coil. i guess we should be on the lookout for a blue one then ;) i once fixed a buddy's husky 257 with a p500 coil and another time i had a pp455 parts saw[pioneer design] and couldn't check for spark because the starter was gone. so took the poulan pro 455 coil and bolted it on the partner 500. only problem with that was the coil wire to the spark plug was too short but i was still able to check for spark.  i believe it would have worked the other way. [p500 coil on the pp455].
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: man of stihl on March 06, 2011, 06:50:58 pm
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on my 505 poulan carb. left hand side there is a brass screw. i would assume that is a governor. but i took it out and it is solid behind it. i even ran it with it out. so what is it?
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: SawTroll on March 07, 2011, 08:01:43 pm
Thce saw really is a Partner, and the original design was the P7700.

The "family" consisted of P7700, 710 and 660 - Jred 2077, 2083 and 2083II (really a late 2077, US only) - PP 505, 475, 445, 425 and 415. The cc originally was 76.5c, but ranged from 82.4 down to 65.

Most (if not all) were made at the Husqvarna factory in Sweden, but there never was a Husky version...... ;)
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun on March 16, 2011, 04:23:56 pm
Thanks for sharing that info Niko.

 Right now I have a running 415 and 505. 475 is still in project saw stage.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/CopyofJD800PP505365010.jpg)

Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: SawTroll on March 18, 2011, 11:34:37 pm
Be aware that there were two versions of some models, the older ones didn't have the fully developed "Air Injection" (different "names" between the brands), but the newer ones did (basically from 1992).
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Modifiedmark on March 20, 2011, 11:31:44 am
Niko, off hand as far as I can tell, the 415 and 475 never had the air injection while the 425,445 and 505 all did.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun on March 21, 2011, 06:43:15 am
Thce saw really is a Partner, and the original design was the P7700.

The "family" consisted of P7700, 710 and 660 -
Most (if not all) were made at the Husqvarna factory in Sweden, but there never was a Husky version...... ;)

So is the Partner 7700 710 660 a partner made saw or like the poulans a jonsered  saw relabeled?
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 21, 2011, 03:33:24 pm
Just thought this was cool a video of a new 505 with less then a tank through it so far.

mweba

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2YhYwA6eU0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qae22UrJPIk

Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: SawTroll on March 23, 2011, 01:25:45 pm
Niko, off hand as far as I can tell, the 415 and 475 never had the air injection while the 425,445 and 505 all did.

That is logic with the 415, but I have my doubts about the 475, as both the P7700 and the 2077 came both without and with it..... ???
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: SawTroll on March 23, 2011, 01:33:04 pm
Thce saw really is a Partner, and the original design was the P7700.

The "family" consisted of P7700, 710 and 660 -
Most (if not all) were made at the Husqvarna factory in Sweden, but there never was a Husky version...... ;)

So is the Partner 7700 710 660 a partner made saw or like the poulans a jonsered  saw relabeled?

The P7700 was the original design, but the saws were made at the Husky factory, at least from 1990 and on (most likely all the time, but I am lacking evidense of that).
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Modifiedmark on March 23, 2011, 10:47:55 pm
Niko, off hand as far as I can tell, the 415 and 475 never had the air injection while the 425,445 and 505 all did.

That is logic with the 415, but I have my doubts about the 475, as both the P7700 and the 2077 came both without and with it..... ???


Could be, but I have yet to see a 475 with it, but that don't mean anything really.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun on March 26, 2011, 07:35:43 pm
Niko, off hand as far as I can tell, the 415 and 475 never had the air injection while the 425,445 and 505 all did.
That is logic with the 415, but I have my doubts about the 475, as both the P7700 and the 2077 came both without and with it..... ???
Could be, but I have yet to see a 475 with it, but that don't mean anything really.

Made me look today 415 475 dont have air injection or de-comp on my 2.  The 505 has both.

Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: mweba on March 27, 2011, 10:50:23 pm
Does your 505 have the "pre filter" at the carb adjust location?  Mine does not and seams never did.  This would make sense as the it would source air from the air injection.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun on March 28, 2011, 08:58:26 pm
I see no pre-filter on the 505 and  I dont see one on the IPL I use either.

Seems to be 2 different air filters, but everything I have is the fine mesh pleated vertically.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: SawTroll on March 30, 2011, 11:49:50 am
The saws that have the fully developed "air injection" don't have the prefilter - it is one or the other, never both, in any IPL I have seen.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: SawTroll on March 30, 2011, 11:57:37 am
Niko, off hand as far as I can tell, the 415 and 475 never had the air injection while the 425,445 and 505 all did.

That is logic with the 415, but I have my doubts about the 475, as both the P7700 and the 2077 came both without and with it..... ???


Could be, but I have yet to see a 475 with it, but that don't mean anything really.
I can't find a single 475 IPL that show it either.....


Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun on May 01, 2011, 05:33:39 pm
I knew there was something different about the 505 muffler when I first got it.

Today after comparing 505 475 415 mufflers I see the difference now. Anyone else have the muffler like on the 505? Maybe on a 2083 or 2083 II.

505

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/505475415mufflers002.jpg)


475

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/505475415mufflers005.jpg)


415

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/505475415mufflers003.jpg)



Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 11, 2011, 03:14:18 pm
I have only seen the different muffler on the 505 so far. Anyone got one on a jonsered 2083?



Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Saw Dr on May 16, 2011, 02:17:22 pm
I guess I have been asleep at the switch on this thread.  Nice looking stuff here, and great info.  I had my 505 out the other day to drop a 25" oak.  I bought the lot next to my house, and I can't keep the kids from going down to the lake on that lot, so the "road" got obscured by a very large dead oak.....

Sadly, the saw was running wonky, and very hard to keep in tune.  I think the intake may be ****.  I noticed this in the cut, and decided it best to shut 'er down.  I ended up taking the 505 back up to the shop and finishing the job (from both sides) with my "wife's" 023L.  Talk about an insult!!

Anyway, I think I am going to just do a full refresh on the saw.  No sense in risking the top end.  Probably loose the gasket while I am at it, but I am nervous to grind on it.  There is always time for that later.  Muffler mods always come to mind, but this saw just sounds so darn cool the way it is.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: mweba on May 17, 2011, 09:38:31 am
Anyway, I think I am going to just do a full refresh on the saw.  No sense in risking the top end.  Probably loose the gasket while I am at it, but I am nervous to grind on it.  There is always time for that later.  Muffler mods always come to mind, but this saw just sounds so darn cool the way it is.

Yes, until I find a spare cylinder, the grinder will stay in the drawer.   The muffler on these sound great and are fairly open already.

A refresh is well worth it.   Mine keeps getting stronger.
Title: Another PP 505 project
Post by: Cut4fun on August 27, 2012, 01:30:47 pm
Just picked a 505 parts saw to put in the poulan project bins.  Boy is she horrible looking in auction pics.  :o But parts is parts to me.  ;D

I just hope whoever is shipping this from KY protects it and packs decently so as NOT to break the crankcase rear AV ear off of this one.  ::)

Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 04, 2012, 09:12:09 pm
505 showed up today. Crank is locked up, but cases seem good. Parts are parts.   ;D 8)
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: mweba on September 04, 2012, 10:44:05 pm
Buddy is dropping one off the 14th.  Says it needs a piston and bearings.  We will see.
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 05, 2012, 11:42:53 am
A 505 is the next saw I am keeping a look out for.  That will then give me a 395, 445, 475, and then a 505. 
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: mweba on September 05, 2012, 11:54:08 am
A 505 is the next saw I am keeping a look out for.  That will then give me a 395, 445, 475, and then a 505. 

NOS 415 at a dealer near me.  Been tempted for a year or so..
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 05, 2012, 12:07:59 pm
  You make it hard on a person.   Right now I have to replenish the funds.  But that does not mean I will forget.
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 05, 2012, 12:37:36 pm
A 505 is the next saw I am keeping a look out for.  That will then give me a 395, 445, 475, and then a 505. 

NOS 415 at a dealer near me.  Been tempted for a year or so..

Wish someone would grab that thing and give it a home already. NOS, it wont get any better shape.   ;D

Buddy is dropping one off the 14th.  Says it needs a piston and bearings.  We will see.

Depending what you do with the saw.  I like the looks of 066 piston.

2 choices I looked into.

Stihl 066 660    54mm
Piston Pin 12mm x 8mm x 33mm
Pin top to top of Piston 17mm
Height 43mm
   

Stihl 046 460  Big Bore   54mm
Piston Pin 12mm x 7mm x 35mm
Pin to top of Piston 15.5mm
Height 36.5mm
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: mweba on September 16, 2012, 03:28:45 pm
505 was delivered in person Friday.  She is rough looking but appears to be all there.  Piston has a small line on it.  Looks to be from carbon.  Should be serviceable.  He also brought along a clean 505 to offer but I passed.  Any one interested pm me.


Any way,  standard bearings and seals in these?  Will look it up later.
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 16, 2012, 05:02:02 pm
One 372 bearing crank bearing and one  seal from 372 cant remember the detail. Look at IPL.

http://www.odref.com/poulan/pdf/POULAN-PRO/gas-saws/pp505.pdf

Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 16, 2012, 05:33:47 pm
505 was delivered in person Friday.  She is rough looking but appears to be all there.  Piston has a small line on it.  Looks to be from carbon.  Should be serviceable.  He also brought along a clean 505 to offer but I passed.  Any one interested pm me.


   I would love to have a 505 but I am tapped out for now. 
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: mweba on September 16, 2012, 05:56:51 pm
I hear ya.  My daughters Occupational and speech therapy has me very low on the fun funds.  Been trading for a lot of builders lately to control the itch  ;D
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 16, 2012, 06:58:04 pm
Do you know how much he was asking for the other 505.
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: mweba on September 16, 2012, 08:34:54 pm
Do you know how much he was asking for the other 505.

Ya I just got a text, its officially mine  :).  Will get some pics up when its in my possession.  Will talk then.
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 16, 2012, 11:10:19 pm
Alright that is great.  Good for you and when you get it will hold you to the pics.
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 17, 2012, 03:52:06 pm
I want to see them both.  8)   
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: mweba on September 18, 2012, 03:31:59 pm
Parts saw

http://instagr.am/p/PuniC-QpWS/ (http://instagr.am/p/PuniC-QpWS/)
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 18, 2012, 03:46:53 pm
(http://distilleryimage10.instagram.com/04c1653c01c711e2b62722000a1e8b36_7.jpg)
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 18, 2012, 04:43:01 pm


http://instagr.am/p/PuniC-QpWS/ (http://instagr.am/p/PuniC-QpWS/)

On your pic. To embed I guessed using my old methods. 

On link with pic showing  right click on pic and click view selection source.  Then right click on link that popped up in new window. Then click copy link location. The paste that link in post and wrap with [ img ]http://pic link here[ /img ]   Close these in though  [img] I had to space them to show up in post.
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: mweba on September 30, 2012, 09:29:11 pm
Horse trading for saws and parts today.  Brought the 505 and bits home.  They sure are strong runners.

(http://distilleryimage3.instagram.com/dadb79720b6411e2b70422000a1e8867_7.jpg)

(http://distilleryimage9.instagram.com/8de2df200b6411e29b7122000a1e8a91_7.jpg)


Well that will be the last time I use Instagram for hosting  :-[
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: 660magnum on September 30, 2012, 09:36:57 pm
Nice and clean looking
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: mweba on September 30, 2012, 10:10:26 pm
Nice and clean looking

Thanks

Its in good condition but obviously used.  Case and handles are excellent and it runs out great.  Not sure why, always had a weakness for this design.
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: 660magnum on September 30, 2012, 10:34:44 pm
I have made a cut or two with the various Poulan Pros that Cut4fun has had in the last year and have been very impressed by them
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: mweba on September 30, 2012, 10:38:07 pm
Give this host a try.

 (http://s7.directupload.net/images/121001/temp/lmkn2dc3.jpg) (http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3030/lmkn2dc3_jpg.htm)
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: 660magnum on September 30, 2012, 10:49:56 pm
I did this like Cut4fun explained

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jamesirl/lmkn2dc3.jpg?t=1349060862)
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: 660magnum on September 30, 2012, 11:01:42 pm
Wow, that one came out full size.

it was http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3030/lmkn2dc3_jpg.htm

Wrapped with the [ img ]

and[ /img ] following with no spaces
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: mweba on September 30, 2012, 11:04:13 pm
Yes, that works from a desktop/laptop but I'm trying to find an easy way to post from smart phone or tablet.  That is all I use anymore.  With out a right click option, I have to rely on the hosts options.

I will start a test thread elsewhere not to muck up this forum.
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: 660magnum on September 30, 2012, 11:10:45 pm
I copied your image into photobucket and then wrapped the location with the img's

Photobucket resizes to a good size
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: 660magnum on September 30, 2012, 11:18:11 pm
In photobucket, you can pick up the links with all left clicks. Just use "share"
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: mweba on October 01, 2012, 08:10:40 pm
505

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CfjNf8ChqY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CfjNf8ChqY)
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2012, 08:25:04 pm
You dog Mitch  8). Is that the one you showed me on CL?


Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: mweba on October 01, 2012, 08:27:51 pm
Yes sir.  Had to do nothing to it.   :)
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2012, 08:32:31 pm
Yes sir.  Had to do nothing to it.   :)





(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt114/xeno0000/Smilies/drooling_bouncy.gif)





 8)
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 04, 2012, 06:59:18 am
Got a question on 505's. The IPL shows 505 with 2 rings and the ebay seller of caber rings is for 2 rings for 505.

The 3 505's I  have are all 1 ring  ???  anyone seen  a 2 ring OEM 505 piston?

34 503289031 Model 505 (2 rings)

The set consists of two (2) piston rings and replaces OEM part # 503289031  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Piston-Ring-Set-fit-POULAN-PRO-505-PP-505-503289031-/400325074048?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d353bdc80

Did a little more digging this afternoon. Seems 2 ring ones were 1.2mm thick and 1 ring ones 1.5mm thick. 

Still has anyone seen a OEM 505 2 ring piston?
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: Barneyrb on October 04, 2012, 09:22:11 pm
I've got a NOS JRed 2083 piston #503 72 35-02 and it is a single ring piston. Same with a 2077 NOS I have.......
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: Cut4fun on October 21, 2012, 11:52:49 am
Was grabbing some pics for 490 parts and snapped this pic of the 2 505 projects that are on the back burner right now.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/490/490airfiltercylcover002.jpg)
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 13, 2012, 05:07:58 pm
Looking over both 505 topends one of them has to much piston skirt wear for my liking.

I'm thinking a little crazy right now on a piston I am liking in the 066 flavor.

My question is what are the 505 cylinders coated with CHROME or Nikasil ?  I never paid attention and dont plan on heading back out for a couple days.

Here is why. These pistons come with high performance chrome plated rings that are 1mm x2. They will only work with nickel ceramic coated (Nikasil) cylinders. All OEM and NWP cylinders for this model chainsaw are Nikasil coated. Some aftermarket cylinders are chrome plated. DO NOT USE in chrome-plated cylinders. ENGINE DAMAGE WILL OCCUR
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: 660magnum on December 13, 2012, 06:14:11 pm
There's always the guy in New Mexico that can make you a custom ring from ductile iron.

His price is around $11 but you will have to send him your P&C and the postage will jack the price up.
Title: Re: Another PP 505 project
Post by: Cut4fun on December 14, 2012, 05:56:25 pm
I did this like Cut4fun explained

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/jamesirl/lmkn2dc3.jpg?t=1349060862)

I see my answer in this pic. DuraChrome.
Title: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 13, 2013, 06:49:27 am
I had mentioned it before and now that I have a really ugly 505. I was thinking of finding some lime green in a can to paint it as close as I can to poulan green like on a 3000  3750 etc.

I was thinking green tank  and all green with black covers and as another member mentioned might just leave the tank black.


Man sure wish they would have just made my favorite saw color on them from the get go.  ;)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: brokenbudget on March 13, 2013, 06:56:01 am
paint it up like a wild thing ;)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 13, 2013, 07:02:58 am
I'm not so good with free handing paint shop stuff.  :D :D
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: brokenbudget on March 13, 2013, 08:19:10 am
needs flames ;D

or polka dots :D
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 13, 2013, 11:27:35 am
A green 505 with the gold decals.    That should be interesting.   
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 13, 2013, 01:11:25 pm
A green 505 with the gold decals.    That should be interesting.   

I dont think there are any decals on the project 505 covers at all.   Plus you can make decals on the puter in green if wanted.

I'm just being stupid and wanting a lime green one.  Could call it 5005
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun on March 17, 2013, 10:04:59 am
Think I found something close enough for me and my redneck ways.  Not as nice as sublime http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/poulan-lime-green-paint/

But I can get this close  in a spray can.  :-\  8)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/limegreen_zpsbc493492.jpg)


compare to oem on these.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/bench316020_zps79ec3fd7.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/bench316019_zps5f94951e.jpg)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 17, 2013, 01:00:36 pm
That should raise a few eye brows.    It is about having alittle fun sometimes.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 22, 2013, 06:34:26 pm
I tried the spray can green today on a husky 272 cover I am going to convert over to poulan usage. The green is not poulan green for sure. To bright not enough green. 

Still thinking about doing it anyways.  Just because.  :-\ :D
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 22, 2013, 06:37:28 pm
This I have got to see.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 22, 2013, 07:16:09 pm
The bottom end of this 505 is so perfect. Just the recoil is uggggggly and the 505 clutch cover is faded badddd too. Still dont want to use the oem clutch cover though.

Going to use a afm 066 piston too.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 22, 2013, 07:47:27 pm
I have a 505 myself sitting here right now with a really ugly clutch cover all busted up and ****.    The rest of the saw does not look to bad and piston cylinder do not look bad.   It puts out 150 psi right now. 

What clutch cover is it that you are going to use again.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 22, 2013, 08:31:11 pm


What clutch cover is it that you are going to use again.

Using 272 268 266 61 66 etc  for make do covers.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Clinton268272xp/clinton268272xp005.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/475425001-1.jpg)
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46.0;attach=1519;image)

Next one to go on mr. green jeans

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46.0;attach=1517;image)





Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 22, 2013, 08:57:30 pm
I will have to adopt your red neck ways there.   I would have to add my personal touch of course and do alittle welding on it since they appear to be made from Magnesium.   Now for the search.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 22, 2013, 08:59:27 pm
Whats your 505 clutch cover look like, usable?  Good enough for my uses?

I havent cut on this one yet. Just sprayed some green on it for a look see.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 22, 2013, 09:01:39 pm
It is broken up and **** bad.   I would use myself but do not want to in the condition it is in.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 22, 2013, 09:07:03 pm
It is broken up and **** bad.   I would use myself but do not want to in the condition it is in.

If it is usable for mr green jeans and dont mind a coat of green.

Guess it depends on how **** and how bad.  Your bad might not be to bad for me. Check PM.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: SawTroll on March 23, 2013, 02:12:52 pm
I will have to adopt your red neck ways there.   I would have to add my personal touch of course and do alittle welding on it since they appear to be made from Magnesium.   Now for the search.

I like that idea, but why not weld the cracks in the original cover instead?
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 23, 2013, 03:01:36 pm
I will have to adopt your red neck ways there.   I would have to add my personal touch of course and do alittle welding on it since they appear to be made from Magnesium.   Now for the search.

I like that idea, but why not weld the cracks in the original cover instead?

Really Niko?  You dont recall do you.  ;) :D
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 23, 2013, 03:04:24 pm
Project Mr. Green Jeans and the spray paint out of a can. Close as it's going to get for me, because I really aint into painting saws for looks.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/505greenpaint003_zpsa6702b49.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/505greenpaint002_zpscb4fe146.jpg)

Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 23, 2013, 03:07:24 pm
I will have to adopt your red neck ways there.   I would have to add my personal touch of course and do alittle welding on it since they appear to be made from Magnesium.   Now for the search.

I like that idea, but why not weld the cracks in the original cover instead?

Really Niko?  You dont recall do you.  ;) :D

Plastic Niko.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 23, 2013, 10:06:14 pm
505 clutch cover.

Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: SawTroll on March 24, 2013, 01:53:53 pm
I will have to adopt your red neck ways there.   I would have to add my personal touch of course and do alittle welding on it since they appear to be made from Magnesium.   Now for the search.

I like that idea, but why not weld the cracks in the original cover instead?

Really Niko?  You dont recall do you.  ;) :D

I had forgotten that the original is plastic.... :-[
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 26, 2013, 03:38:15 pm
Decided to clear the benches today and the 2 left were 60cc 3450 and mr green jeans. I decided to shelf the 60cc 3450 for parts or project down the road.

So onto Mr. Green Jeans 505.  I'm not into restoring or painting saws so there is no sanding priming etc.  It is what it is with some cleaning and painting. 1st coat.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/limegreen505004_zpse6960677.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/limegreen505001_zpsca4b888b.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/limegreen505002_zps44fc6c0f.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/limegreen505003_zps1d953996.jpg)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun on March 26, 2013, 08:16:16 pm
Mock up. Trying to decide on black tank or painting a yellow tank green for use. The green is greener then my cheap camera shows too.  :P

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/mrgreenjeans001_zps7d9a9298.jpg)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun on March 26, 2013, 09:42:27 pm
Got the 066 piston open up and ready for install on crank today too. 
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 27, 2013, 12:10:54 am
When you say opened up are you talking about the width where the rod fits.   Did you have it machined or do it yourself.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 27, 2013, 07:55:08 am
When you say opened up are you talking about the width where the rod fits.   Did you have it machined or do it yourself.

Did it myself. Opened piston so small rod end  fit in.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 27, 2013, 07:57:21 am
Cant wait to make the decals up. Lime green lettering instead of PP colors.   Wonder if I should make it a 5005 or leave it 505.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 27, 2013, 11:15:24 am
Barn is cold and cant get in the mood to hit the project. But doing some reading this morning Niko's post gave ;D me another idea.


All those saws were made at the Husky factory, but there weren't any Husky version of any of them.


Hmmmmmm a husky orange one could be next.   :D
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 27, 2013, 01:13:33 pm
Some days you just need to walk away from the bench.  (http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk5/teamcallo/Smiley%20faces/smlWalking.gif)

Ripped the only used base gasket I had on hand. No new on hand either.  :-X
Didnt like the way it was sucking into transfer port and tried to reshape it to port.  :o  Old used gasket wasnt having any of that.   :D


Ron my lower ring on 066 afm piston doesn't get to the intake without gasket. Will check with gasket later too.


(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk5/teamcallo/Smiley%20faces/7_15_5v.gif)
Title: Re: 505 2083 83cc
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 27, 2013, 04:38:21 pm
066 Meteor piston is .020 higher then 2083 OEM piston. Squish with gasket, OEM piston was .041. With 066 piston squish is at .021. Comp is at 170 pounds. The 2083 rod is wider than the 066, piston needs to be opened up.

Ron I tore the gasket on the 505 but checked the squish anyways with used before gasket and got .0285 with this 066 afm piston.

I also was able to run both rings after checking. The lower never showed coming down to the intake.
Title: Re: Re: 505 2083 83cc
Post by: man of stihl on March 27, 2013, 07:39:14 pm
What was your squish with oem piston?
Title: Re: Re: 505 2083 83cc
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 27, 2013, 08:07:53 pm
What was your squish with oem piston?

Didnt check it with oem being it was in pieces when arrived. Will on next 505 when I put the best  top end and oem piston on it.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 28, 2013, 12:32:38 pm
Just waiting on gasket since I wanted oem instead of just making one.  Putting stuff back together slowly.   ::)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/case2150005_zps3458fcea.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/case2150007_zps2bf4b27f.jpg)


Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 29, 2013, 09:15:02 pm
Painted the metal 272 clutch cover I had made for the 475 when I didnt have a cover for it. This one is now lime green.

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46.0;attach=1519;image)



660Mag was over today while I was putting stuff back on the 505 and can vouch for it being lime green and nothing like the pics show for some reason.

I painted my worst shape 505 cover lime green and peeled the sticker off it. It was missing  2 rows of cross bars on the top front area. 

Put a 5000 plus coil in it and everything seems ready to go as soon as the new base gaskets show up.  :)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 660magnum on March 29, 2013, 09:21:25 pm
It looks Poulan green to me.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 30, 2013, 11:16:30 am
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/green505001_zps841424c3.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/green505005_zps5fc3e64b.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/green505010_zps85e8575d.jpg)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 30, 2013, 06:49:30 pm
I did not know your recoil starter cover was bad, I had one here in a lot better shape you can have.   The green is coming along. 
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 31, 2013, 12:21:15 am
I did not know your recoil starter cover was bad, I had one here in a lot better shape you can have.   The green is coming along. 


Let me know OK.

Going to work on a sheet of recoil decals in lime green lettering and numbers. So when I get a better shell I can paint it and just add a decal too.

Might end up painting the plastic bar cover if the decal deal works out on recoil.  Then make one for clutch cover.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 31, 2013, 12:25:40 am
Oh Cale bloodontheice said I should have painted the clutch cover purple like a wild thing.   ;D
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun on April 01, 2013, 05:42:33 pm
Wife is making the lime green recoil decal by hand on her puter. Pretty slick looking so far. She had to freehand the P with the tree in it on the Pro part.  It was missing on the decal she scanned in to go from and color. Coloring in has been all free-handed.

Down to doing the super clean letters in green. If it was the 475 or 415 decal it would have been done already being they dont say super clean on them.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun on April 05, 2013, 12:15:12 pm
3 April got project green jeans up and running.   Had to pull the 505 one piece style muffler back off after a muffler bolt head gave out.
So I took the other style muffler I had on hand that comes apart. Took the baffle out and opened the outlet.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/GREEN505012_zps003ef031.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/GREEN505008_zpsbc399100.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/GREEN505010_zps979bc0ed.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/GREEN505005_zps5e80c968.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/GREEN505011_zpsba8158bb.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/GREEN505004_zps0d005038.jpg)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun on April 05, 2013, 12:19:41 pm
April 4th when I got to the hand brake area and installing the parts I was trying to decide from using a black case cover or paint a yellow one I had on hand lime green too. I held the black one up on the saw and just visioned the green one there and decided to paint one green. 
I think it looks better green and matching myself.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/GREEN505001_zps1d0c5b8c.jpg)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun on April 05, 2013, 12:28:55 pm
Here is the green recoil decal my wife made from a very torn and missing P oem decal. I might get a pic of original and then you can appreciate the hand colored in green one.  I do as my hands aint that steady to do so.

Looking into redneck repairs for this cover with the broke out grill work. I'm thinking of gluing plastic from models. The throw away sections maybe. Any other ideas?

Also another member has offered up a better cover in the future.  Thanks..................

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/GREEN505003_zps54241845.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/GREEN505006_zps964e4939.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/GREEN505009_zps670847aa.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/GREEN505007_zps0a5bb4cf.jpg)


Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: brokenbudget on April 05, 2013, 02:38:12 pm
looks good cut!
notice you have the same cordless demememel i have. that thing has been through hell and back a few times. been a very good tool. mine's getting tired, it needs a new battery and the bearings are getting dry sounding. might just replace it with the exact same one. 8)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 05, 2013, 02:43:35 pm
looks good cut!
notice you have the same cordless demememel i have. that thing has been through hell and back a few times. been a very good tool. mine's getting tired, it needs a new battery and the bearings are getting dry sounding. might just replace it with the exact same one. 8)

I have a corded generic fordom in the back ground for the heavy duty or very time consuming stuff.  I really do like the little cordless for the quick easy jobs.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 06, 2013, 07:58:34 pm
Finally got my boys car fixed today  ;D ;D ;D (been chasing this fix for awhile). So maybe tomorrow I'll get this puppy in some wood.

Also got me a redneck fix idea for the recoil for the time being. Only thing is I forgot to buy some model glue while at the hobby store and I still have to cut and trim the pieces out of a (what looks like a red mantis muffler cover).   ???
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 07, 2013, 02:07:33 pm
Ran her real fat at 12k for breaking in.  20" round maple.  24" full comp and a 7T. 

Need to get a dawg on it for sure to protect the new green  :D :D :D :D. Sucked a 20" round right up and over the stop I had set up into the front of the case.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/stickerspoulan001_zps600918a9.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/stickerspoulan005_zpsf8edf08d.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/stickerspoulan002_zpsfc3b3d44.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/stickerspoulan010_zpsc5e1aa72.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/stickerspoulan006_zpse2729846.jpg)



Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 07, 2013, 04:25:28 pm
Looks real good.  I sure like the green decal it turned out pretty good.    So how do think this saw runs compared to other 505's that you have built?

Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 07, 2013, 07:07:11 pm
Looks real good.  I sure like the green decal it turned out pretty good.    So how do think this saw runs compared to other 505's that you have built?



I have only ran 1 other 505 and I didnt rebuild that one, I took it on trade. This one feels stronger already but I had always figured something wasnt right about that other 505 and it ended up having a air leak at the  base gasket.  The other 505 #3 is parts saw. Making 3 I do have 2 runners.

I'm going to take my best oem 505 cyl and my best 505 piston and put them on the other running 505 next (it's still wearing my 425 top) and I'll be able to tell you more.

IMO runs like any single transfer saw in it's cc size.


I had her print a extra recoil decal for a better cover someday  ;). Might beg her to make one for a green oem cover next.  :P
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun on April 11, 2013, 06:12:28 pm
Had to install another oiler today.

Couldnt see anyway to even take the old one apart to see if could rebuild them with new parts. Oh well.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 11, 2013, 07:40:52 pm
Put my 1st 505 back together today with my best oem 505 54mm top end.  Was running a 425 topend on it to do some comparison last year at the poulan gtg.


The oem 505 one on the other saw when I installed today was .040 with new oem gasket.  I checked the 425 top before puling it and it was .0435 with used gasket. yellow PP 505

I paid closer attention to my measurements this time and measured the squish closer to where the piston and cylinder  intersect.   I came up with .0245 at tightest on the afm 066 piston with used gasket. Lime green 505


Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: pete on April 13, 2013, 04:15:43 pm
A redeck fix I have used on broken grills is aluminium mesh the sort of stuff used on security door sometimes a nice honeycombe shape
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 13, 2013, 08:52:41 pm
I got a oem clutch cover picked out to paint lime green now. 
Going to ask the wife make a decal for it in green lettering too. Also going to use the poulan 475 decal over my 505 decals because I like the bigger lettering and numbers on 475 decal.
Will have her take off the 475 and put 505 in place.

Still havent pulled the broken recoil off for redneck repairs till I get another one. 

Did find the part number for the oiler plunger, but couldnt find a cross ref for a husky and if I could just order it for oiler rebuild.


Just saving words so I dont forget........ Liquid styrene cement
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun on April 15, 2013, 12:59:03 pm
Took apart #3 505 to see where I stood on parts. Knew the crank was bad from the get go. 

Well after taking from the project 425 and this 505  to finish up the last 475 and 505 projects it appears I'm and going to be short of finishing 1 more project out of them.
No biggie, I ended up with 415 475 505 x2 runners for now.

 After splitting cases etc you can see where it appears that water had set in the crankcase and ate at it.  If they were ever to be used you would just have to open them up like you would if using a stroked crank in a 372 3120 etc.  That should clean them up for usable then.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/h1255053007_zps8af1b96d.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/h1255053007_zps8af1b96d.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/h1255053005_zps55422e6f.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/h1255053005_zps55422e6f.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/h1255053003_zpsc89c263c.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/h1255053003_zpsc89c263c.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/h1255053001_zpsb9977937.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/h1255053001_zpsb9977937.jpg.html)

 
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 16, 2013, 07:33:31 pm
Went through my oem clutch covers and picked the worst one looks wise and painted it green.  The green 505 decal will be on hold till after my wife has surgery on her hand tomorrow. So after that is all healed up maybe then get around to the lime green clutch cover decal.

Before and after.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/oemgreenclutchcover003_zps3993fd2d.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/oemgreenclutchcover003_zps3993fd2d.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/oemgreenclutchcover004_zpsd95e03c5.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/oemgreenclutchcover004_zpsd95e03c5.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/oemgreenclutchcover001_zps274cce79.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/oemgreenclutchcover001_zps274cce79.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/oemgreenclutchcover007_zpscbd3fd54.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/oemgreenclutchcover007_zpscbd3fd54.jpg.html)



New oem dawg.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/oemgreenclutchcover002_zps0db33a10.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/oemgreenclutchcover002_zps0db33a10.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 16, 2013, 07:37:33 pm
I came across this old style jonsered 2077 cover that is like the poulan covers. So I picked it up for a just in case moment being it looked in perfect condition, just wrong color. Hopefully it will arrive someday in one piece.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/2077recoil_zpsf121e1a3.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/2077recoil_zpsf121e1a3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun on April 20, 2013, 10:55:07 am
Thanks Roger 3000 fps for the nicer recoil shell (looks alot better).  Will be putting it in the wives dishwasher here pretty soon for a good cleaning.


Hmmmm then to repair the other broken one with the mantis webbing and then find some purple paint for it and the modified 268 clutch cover. Make up some wild thing decals and she will be all set for 2 personality's.


Is this what testors model glue is made with?   Liquid styrene cement

Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun on April 20, 2013, 10:57:20 am
When I had the 1950 poulan on the bench with the 505 they were the same exact color.  That just shows how off my cheap camera is.  ::)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 20, 2013, 03:58:33 pm
yellow one dishwashed.

Now if it would just warm up so I could paint it.  cold enough it is  snow flurries off and on today. grrrrr

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/5000/5000gasketset2077002_zpsf2fb778b.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/5000/5000gasketset2077002_zpsf2fb778b.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/5000/5000gasketset2077003_zps294e6b98.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/5000/5000gasketset2077003_zps294e6b98.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: brokenbudget on April 20, 2013, 04:16:56 pm
 ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_nrfpPcxQw
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 20, 2013, 04:25:07 pm
Thats who I was thinking of when I named it.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 20, 2013, 06:21:16 pm
Looking Gooood Kevin.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 21, 2013, 01:41:20 pm
A 505 is the next saw I am keeping a look out for.  That will then give me a  445, 475, and then a 505. 

Roger have you posted pics of your 505 here?  If so I cant locate them.  Wanting to see  recoil side.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 21, 2013, 03:08:19 pm
No I have not done that yet.
Ok here is the recoil cover.
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21.0;attach=2957;image)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 23, 2013, 04:45:37 pm
Today after getting 2 riders ready I had some hobby time.   :o :o :o :o  Freaking recoil spring on the 2077 cover decided it wanted to come out.  3 tries and hands were cramping to bad. Took break 2 more tries later and I got the win.  8)

Just showing to other poulans to show green color that my camera dont show.

Thanks again Roger for the better shell.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/445pp003_zpsc8b4ab9f.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/445pp003_zpsc8b4ab9f.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 23, 2013, 04:54:50 pm
I see you got the new decal on looks good.    The green is alittle lighter in shade but looks pretty close to me.   Like you said earlier, (it is just a chainsaw).  I like that.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 23, 2013, 05:06:54 pm
Just waiting on my wife to be able to make the clutch side decal now in green  ;D. She had surgery on the 18th and dont go back for post op check till may 8th. So might be awhile.

Yeah it's off a hair but for less then $4 a can I dont give a rip. 

Now to take a wild thing clutch cover on a trip and get some purple in a can thats close.  :D ;D   Then maybe decals for that too.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 26, 2013, 12:44:53 pm
That starter cover looks much better indeed, great paint job
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 29, 2013, 04:39:00 pm
To wet to mow......... ;D

So I broke out with my Redneck idea of using a mantis housing cover for parts.

Best I can do and my redneck ways and let me tell you about getting this stuff on 2 fingers at a time.  :D :D :D :D :o

Now to find some purple and make or get some wild thing decals for the 2 covers (recoil and clutch).  ::)


(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/prom2013recoilrepair002_zps9777b559.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/prom2013recoilrepair002_zps9777b559.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/prom2013recoilrepair004_zps40bc4bbe.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/prom2013recoilrepair004_zps40bc4bbe.jpg.html)



Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on April 30, 2013, 02:56:55 am
you have been creative there(http://i1148.photobucket.com/albums/o578/dutchsawdoctor1/goodjob.gif)

(no finger stuck together?  ;D ::)  )
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 30, 2013, 11:37:26 am
I am waiting for the purple and wild thing decals.   That is going to be something to behold.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 30, 2013, 05:21:35 pm
Sprayed the fixed area  green to give it a base coat sort of. Before looking for a purple match.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/brokencoverfix001_zps02907ff3.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/brokencoverfix001_zps02907ff3.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 30, 2013, 06:21:20 pm
Should be interesting to say the least.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 05, 2013, 05:29:57 pm
Wild Thing 505 decal I made.   ;D

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/purple001_zps97e04315.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/415/purple001_zps97e04315.jpg.html)



I went with rustoleum purple gloss. It is not as deep purple as the early wild thing covers.  But dang it's not as bad looking as my camera shows it.   :o :o 


(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/purple003_zpsfcac0040.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/415/purple003_zpsfcac0040.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/purple002_zps9e80956f.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/415/purple002_zps9e80956f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 05, 2013, 11:15:09 pm
That is really cool the way the your wife was able to add the 505 on the decal.   This is going to look pretty neat when you get it all together now.    ;D
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 06, 2013, 06:45:30 am
That is really cool the way the your wife was able to add the 505 on the decal.   This is going to look pretty neat when you get it all together now.    ;D

I actually made this one.

 She still cant use her right hand since the surgery.  Patiently awaiting her to make me the green 505 clutch cover decal for the other set.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 07, 2013, 05:51:34 pm
As usual my camera dont show the lime green and purple colors right.   ???

Now to work on the decals for the lime green and purple clutch covers.   ;)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/purplewtrecoil002_zps49dd1be5.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/purplewtrecoil002_zps49dd1be5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 09, 2013, 09:01:08 pm
Well the wife got the lime green 505 clutch decal made up for me today. All by hand. Now I just need to size it and get it printed out.

Guess it's my turn to get a wild thing clutch decal made up. Anyone got a good pic I can use to go by and then slim down for a 272 cover.  ;D  Best I found so far posted below too.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 10, 2013, 02:17:59 am
The wild thing sticker on that saw with the purple cover has to be my favorite , out all the different combinations so far.   I hope your going to take it to a few GTGs.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun on May 10, 2013, 06:33:26 am
I've never seen this color combo on a wild thing before. Looks like a newer strato version and has black tops and rear handle and tank.  ???

Anyone know anything on this. I actually like it better and reminds me of my SE WT.  ;)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun on May 10, 2013, 12:36:13 pm
I decided to cheat on the wild thing bar cover decal.  I just took my recoil decal and resized it where I could trim it to fit the 272 cover decal area.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun on May 10, 2013, 12:50:28 pm
Ready to cut and apply both bar cover decals.

I just ask the wife as I was printing out 2 bar cover decals for my play project. The decal paper is vinyl.

Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 11, 2013, 03:33:32 pm
Not perfect, but good enough for me till it needs another one.  Green one printed out a little smaller then I put in for measurements.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/barcoverdecals003_zpsc6ed2ca7.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/barcoverdecals003_zpsc6ed2ca7.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 18, 2013, 12:53:48 pm
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/wildthings003_zps7e0d3a94.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/wildthings003_zps7e0d3a94.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/wildthings004_zpse0b1726e.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/wildthings004_zpse0b1726e.jpg.html)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/wildthings005_zps6da929f4.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/wildthings005_zps6da929f4.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/wildthings006_zpsce0616a9.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/wildthings006_zpsce0616a9.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/wildthings002_zps305ccc9f.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/wildthings002_zps305ccc9f.jpg.html)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/wildthings001_zps6018f950.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Partner550/wildthings001_zps6018f950.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 18, 2013, 01:24:09 pm
That makes me smile and crack up everytime I see it.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: dutchsawdoctor on July 30, 2013, 02:00:22 pm
Looks nice and original to
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: doreadeal on September 05, 2013, 06:38:42 am
Love that green!
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: doreadeal on September 09, 2013, 09:52:57 pm
I tell you, the new jeeps can be had in a color so damn close to poulan green I'm sure I couldn't tell the difference if you painted a saw with it.
Just looked it up, its called gecko pearlcoat. Now the pictures on the net vary big time, I'm going to tell you in person it damn close.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 10, 2013, 03:26:58 pm
Seems there are varying shades of the green anyways. Seen 4-5 myself.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 10, 2013, 03:28:27 pm
thread on green http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/poulan-lime-green-paint/msg19957/#msg19957
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 10, 2013, 03:29:38 pm
the gecko green  https://www.google.com/search?q=gecko+pearlcoat&client=firefox-a&hs=cnp&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=n3IvUsuND9TyyAG6iYG4CA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1525&bih=743
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: doreadeal on September 11, 2013, 06:34:19 am
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=gecko+pearlcoat+jeep+pics&id=93C13023DE0F7D34521B39DD196CB021C18ED7A6&FORM=IQFRBA


Its close, seems just a tad more green. Like splitting hairs.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun on September 18, 2013, 03:15:08 pm
Pics I took yesterday of my best PP505.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2100p26837266husky/pullersandy505003_zps7050243d.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2100p26837266husky/pullersandy505003_zps7050243d.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2100p26837266husky/pullersandy505005_zps7256aa70.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2100p26837266husky/pullersandy505005_zps7256aa70.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2100p26837266husky/pullersandy505007_zps9bdf8289.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2100p26837266husky/pullersandy505007_zps9bdf8289.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2100p26837266husky/pullersandy505008_zpseda9d97b.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2100p26837266husky/pullersandy505008_zpseda9d97b.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2100p26837266husky/pullersandy505001_zps2e1d14dc.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2100p26837266husky/pullersandy505001_zps2e1d14dc.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: doreadeal on September 19, 2013, 06:59:43 am
Nice saws, everyone has a 505 now! My muffler is of the two through bolt type and is shot. Still pondering what I'm doing with it. With it off I can see that my piston also has a single ring. I've read elsewhere that when replacement pistons were available some came in two ring design as an improvement. Not sure on the validity of that though. I took my oil pump off, cleaned it, the ports and pickup. Everything looks real good, though the pump was a bit gritty on use before I broke it down for a cleaning.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun on September 19, 2013, 12:42:42 pm
The link with your post contains nothing.   ???

Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: doreadeal on September 19, 2013, 05:49:54 pm
Hmm, tried giving a link from dropbox cause everything else says the files are too big. I need an easy upload button or I'm a mess.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 19, 2013, 06:06:48 pm
Get yourself a free photobucket account to upload to. Then it will auto resize and post here using IMG link.  http://s59.photobucket.com/
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: doreadeal on September 19, 2013, 06:49:07 pm
I have a photobucket but when I try to "choose a file" it doesn't offer it.




Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 19, 2013, 06:51:49 pm
Its all in the settings you selected somewhere when setting up the account. Me I just click on link copy and paste or you can click on show links and click and auto copied.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: doreadeal on September 19, 2013, 07:02:04 pm
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h467/adianarion/IMAG0167.jpg)


Well there we go, thank you sir.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 19, 2013, 07:15:53 pm
Sweet and welcome.......................
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 22, 2013, 04:57:38 pm
Ran both the PP505 sold and the WT505 today with 24" 3/8 full comp almost buried.  PP505 airing back out for it's pack up next.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 23, 2013, 02:16:33 pm
The guy I rebuilt the muffler modded dual port stihl 440 for just ran the muffler modded wild thing 83cc with 24" and almost buried today.  He was smiling ear to ear and going oh man.

Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 11, 2013, 11:30:02 am
Touch up of the chain for tomorrows poulan gtg.   8)

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1720.0;attach=4023;image)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 11, 2013, 02:42:53 pm
Let us know how it does.   Take a few pics of the GTG.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 11, 2013, 02:45:27 pm
Only on 2nd tank now. Not broke in and rich still.

I dont take a camera sorry.  Guido and many others do though. Hopefully those nicer cameras they have show just how lime green this saw really is.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 12, 2013, 06:49:35 pm
Roger, to answer the question now. Yes I thought she was running darn good and everyone that ran it said she was a good running saw.

 On 3rd tank.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 12, 2013, 06:50:12 pm
Oh yeah freaking chain was sharp.   ;) ;D :'(
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 660magnum on October 12, 2013, 08:24:36 pm
Oh yeah freaking chain was sharp.   ;) ;D :'(
You have proof of that!
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 12, 2013, 10:48:30 pm
Oh yeah freaking chain was sharp.   ;) ;D :'(
You have proof of that!

Yes I hear he does have that proof.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 12, 2013, 10:55:34 pm
Roger, to answer the question now. Yes I thought she was running darn good and everyone that ran it said she was a good running saw.

 On 3rd tank.

I would love to be at one of the GTG to see how all the different saws perform.     That green machine is a crack up.
Oh I did finish the snow blower.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun on October 14, 2013, 03:24:07 pm
Gregg took some pics.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/Gregg500/PoulanGTG040_zpsb4e5d943.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/Gregg500/PoulanGTG039_zpsb862d937.jpg)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 14, 2013, 03:49:06 pm
That is a cool picture with the green 505.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2013, 05:42:47 pm
Oh yeah freaking chain was sharp.   ;) ;D :'(
You have proof of that!

Yes I hear he does have that proof.

Yep Rednecked repaired too.  :-X :-[ :o ;D 

 Thought I was going to have to leave right after running the 1st saw.  Nik was like dude you need stitches and I was like not if I can fold the skin that is left back over in wound and stop the bleeding.  Got it stopped and then patched up.   8)

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=479.0;attach=4047;image)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 14, 2013, 07:22:45 pm
That must have been a pretty good cut if Nik thought you needed stitches.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2013, 08:05:37 pm
I came across this old style jonsered 2077 cover that is like the poulan covers. So I picked it up for a just in case moment being it looked in perfect condition, just wrong color. Hopefully it will arrive someday in one piece.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/2077recoil_zpsf121e1a3.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/PP505PP365JD800/2077recoil_zpsf121e1a3.jpg.html)


Well Roger I have still been looking for a new nos yellow one for your 1st 505. Nothing yet, but came across a red nos one to go with the red recoil now.

Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 14, 2013, 09:39:17 pm
I came across this old style jonsered 2077 cover that is like the poulan covers. So I picked it up for a just in case moment being it looked in perfect condition, just wrong color. Hopefully it will arrive someday in one piece.

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Well Roger I have still been looking for a new nos yellow one for your 1st 505. Nothing yet, but came across a red nos one to go with the red recoil now.



Well that just goes to show that sometimes all it takes is patients and a little luck.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 16, 2013, 06:27:04 pm
To cool. Learned something today. This red cover is metal.

(http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af137/chainsawrepair/20772083/redmetal20772083001_zps09ceefdb.jpg) (http://s1001.photobucket.com/user/chainsawrepair/media/20772083/redmetal20772083001_zps09ceefdb.jpg.html)
(http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af137/chainsawrepair/20772083/redmetal20772083002_zpsb2bf5b92.jpg) (http://s1001.photobucket.com/user/chainsawrepair/media/20772083/redmetal20772083002_zpsb2bf5b92.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 16, 2013, 06:35:36 pm
That means you can paint it what ever color you like and it will not peel.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 16, 2013, 06:41:46 pm
When I seen pic I had wondered why I couldnt see the metal inserts for bar stud area.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 16, 2013, 06:44:53 pm
When I seen pic I had wondered why I couldnt see the metal inserts for bar stud area.

Good point.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 16, 2013, 07:12:56 pm
Red ones were in plastic too.

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2370.0;attach=4066;image)
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2370.0;attach=4064;image)
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 21, 2013, 04:47:14 pm
I got my 505 out the other day and decided to get it running.   I have not run this saw since I bought it.    The old clutch cover was **** real bad and so I am using this for now.   The next time I take a picture of that clutch cover it will look completely different.   

Also decided to include a group picture of the saws.   
From right to left.   445,475,2083,505,505.
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21.0;attach=4116;image)

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21.0;attach=4118;image)

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21.0;attach=4120;image)
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun on October 21, 2013, 06:13:45 pm
Nice.....................


Man I'm getting bad.  I forgot all about that metal husky clutch cover and wondered where it had gone to in my shop.   

I dont remember you getting a 2083. The 54mm or 52mm II?
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: fossil on October 21, 2013, 06:46:43 pm
The saws in that series are really sharp looking machines.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 21, 2013, 07:06:19 pm
Nice.....................


Man I'm getting bad.  I forgot all about that metal husky clutch cover and wondered where it had gone to in my shop.   

I dont remember you getting a 2083. The 54mm or 52mm II?

It is the 54mm same as a 505 I believe.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 21, 2013, 07:09:40 pm
The saws in that series are really sharp looking machines.

Thanks Tim, and I really like the way they cut.   Plus they all have working chain brakes.   I like some of the older saws without the chain brakes but, if I am out falling trees and cutting limbs I prefer a chain brake on the saw.   If bucking up old trees it is not such a big deal to me then.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 03, 2014, 04:02:57 pm
Hey Kevin I got your 505 out today and did some cutting with a 28" bar.   This is some green cotton wood I got for free.   I will use it in my work shop when it is completed.   The saw performed great thanks.   Roger.

Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun on March 03, 2014, 05:15:09 pm
Hey Kevin I got your 505 out today and did some cutting with a 28" bar.   This is some green cotton wood I got for free.   I will use it in my work shop when it is completed.   The saw performed great thanks.   Roger.



Nice and good to hear. 

It will get more use in your hands then mine. Lost 3 woods I used to cut in for folks and no truck to haul anything back right now either.
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: Cut4fun on April 30, 2014, 08:35:48 pm
Was working on a friends 2 saws today and did some test cutting with his. When we got done I ask him if he wanted to run my Wild Thing 505 with 24".   

Didnt think I was going to get my saw back when he walked away with a big grin. ;D
Title: Re: Lime green 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 30, 2014, 09:16:39 pm
Yep for the money I really like them.   I think I have enough now.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2014, 08:25:15 pm
Another poulan 505 carcass should be on its way. Parts are parts.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 03, 2014, 12:07:32 am
Another poulan 505 carcass should be on its way. Parts are parts.

Good for you.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Tractorsaw1 on December 03, 2014, 01:36:42 pm
I happened upon a jonsered 2083 that has the single ring piston.  I only see the 505 twin ring in the ipls, is there a part# for the single ring or most using the 066 piston & rings? Also the case has a repair done on it & I may need to replace that at some point, is the 505 case an exact replacement other than the paint color?  Thanks!
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2014, 01:40:51 pm
Yep I seen the 2083 you picked up.  Very cool on the metal clutch cover and small outer dawg.  ;)

All the crankcases are the same IMO (in my thinking but make sure). Only some updated changes on bearing and seal on one side. Type of oiler gear like pressed on crank metal or like plastic worm gear on my 425 445 505.  Other changes too. But crankcases should be the same.

All single ring

I am using 066 piston and 2 rings just because I wanted to see if the 2nd ring cleared.  It appeared so on test fit so I went 2.  Stihl pistons = Bosses need opened to fit rod
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2014, 01:47:10 pm
jonsered 2083 threads

http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/jonsered/jonsered-2083/

http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/air-injection-comparison-pp-505-415-475-jred-2083-2077/msg3107/#msg3107

http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/jonsered/jonsered-2077-2083-ignition/msg25586/#msg25586

http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/jonsered/inside-a-jonsered-208320772083-2-and-a-bicycle!/msg45245/#msg45245


505 build using 066 piston  http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/lime-green-505/msg25271/#msg25271
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Tractorsaw1 on December 03, 2014, 02:40:58 pm
I finally in the Jred club & or sorta the 505 club :)
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2014, 05:41:33 pm
I finally in the Jred club & or sorta the 505 club :)

Truth be known. Really Partner designed chainsaws made at the husqvarna plant.  http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/partner/7700-710-660-partner-trio/msg49995/#new
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2014, 12:53:09 pm
Unpacked the other 505.  Going to show my redneck way of checking seals without pressure testing. 
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2014, 02:58:10 pm
My Redneck way of checking seals when top end is removed from saws.

I fill full of mix  and wait and see. Best to remove flywheel too.

Less then a min I knew why this one toasted itself.  Leaking around crankshaft and dribbling down to case.

PTO side seal leak.  Pic is about 5mins worth. After over a  hour or more it had almost all drained out PTO side.  Fly never did show any wetness.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/570/seal505004_zps8e6d7de3.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/570/seal505004_zps8e6d7de3.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/570/seal505005_zps5f46acbe.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/570/seal505005_zps5f46acbe.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: man of stihl on December 07, 2014, 09:00:33 pm
Great idea!! Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 660magnum on December 07, 2014, 09:05:25 pm
This comes in very handy on a saw where someone has already pulled the jug?
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 07, 2014, 10:34:17 pm
Never thought about that Kevin.   I will put that into the memory bank.  Great.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Tractorsaw1 on December 08, 2014, 01:43:14 pm
Is that the side that you buy the bearing & it comes with the seal?  I got a few saws to do some redneck seal checkn on myself ;D  Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2014, 02:49:35 pm
Yep that be the one. Good luck and check them good. That seems to be the killer on these. Crank bearings and or seals.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2014, 02:50:41 pm
I learned this trick on Racesaws years ago 08 or so. Brian aka Timberwolf showed it.   

Batting 100% using this method on seals.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2014, 04:47:57 pm
I was just looking up the 505 445 425 PTO side bearing and seal. Has a superseded number to 525434201  from 503252002

$30 per side as set.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2014, 04:56:38 pm
Looking at jonsered 2083 IPL

seal by itself PTO side 503260901

I'm not 100% on this just using info found in searches. If wrong in my digging of parts  I dont know.  So check first.

That seal  503260901 - 505416101 Husqvarna   CAN ANYONE CONFIRM THIS?

works on

346 XP (2001-06)-->Crankshaft
346 XP (2003-06)-->Crankshaft (Part 1)
346 XP (2004-03)-->Crankshaft
346 XP (2007-02)-->Crankshaft
346 XP (2007-08)-->Crankshaft
346 XP EPA (2004-03)-->Crankshaft
351 (2001-06)-->Crankshaft
353 (2004-03)-->Crankshaft
353 (2007-02)-->Crankshaft
353 (2007-08)-->Crankshaft
353 EPA (2004-03)-->Crankshaft
353 EPA I (2002-09)-->Crankshaft
555 (2011-03)-->CRANKSHAFT
560XP (2011-06)-->CRANKSHAFT
562XP (2011-06)-->CRANKSHAFT
570 (2005-04)-->CrankShaft
570 (2007-01)-->Crankshaft
570 (EPA) (2004-09)-->Crankshaft
570 EPA (2005-04)-->CrankShaft
570 XP (2007-01)-->Crankshaft
575 XP (2005-04)-->CrankShaft
575 XP (2007-01)-->Crankshaft
575 XP (EPA) (2004-09)-->Crankshaft
575 XP (EPA) (2007-01)-->Crankshaft
575 XP EPA (2005-04)-->CrankShaft
346 XP (2009-02)-->Crankshaft (NE)
353 (2009-02)-->Crankshaft (NE)
570 EPA (2009-01)-->Crank Shaft
576 XP EPA (2009-01)-->Crank Shaft
346XP (2011-01)-->CRANKSHAFT
353 (2011-01)-->CRANKSHAFT
570 (2008-08)-->Crank Shaft
570 (2009-08)-->Crank Shaft
576 XP (2008-08)-->Crank Shaft
576 XP Auto Tune (2010-03)-->Crankshaft
576XP AUTO TUNE (2010-03)-->CRANKSHAFT
576XP EPA (2011-01)-->CRANKSHAFT
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2014, 04:59:53 pm
Then the crank bearing for 2083 bare or kit I cant tell also comes back to huskys.   Anyone confirm this stuff?

503252002  - 525434201 updated to

346 XP (1999-01)-->Crankshaft
346 XP (2007-08)-->Crankshaft
351 EPA (1999-09)-->Crankshaft
353 (2007-08)-->Crankshaft
570 (EPA) (2004-09)-->Crankshaft
575 XP (EPA) (2004-09)-->Crankshaft
346 XP (2001-06)-->Crankshaft
346 XP (2003-06)-->Crankshaft (Part 1)
346 XP (2004-03)-->Crankshaft
346 XP EPA (2004-03)-->Crankshaft
351 (2001-06)-->Crankshaft
353 (2004-03)-->Crankshaft
353 EPA (2004-03)-->Crankshaft
353 EPA I (2002-09)-->Crankshaft
570 (2005-04)-->CrankShaft
570 EPA (2005-04)-->CrankShaft
575 XP (2005-04)-->CrankShaft
575 XP EPA (2005-04)-->CrankShaft
346 XP (2007-02)-->Crankshaft
353 (2007-02)-->Crankshaft
570 (2007-01)-->Crankshaft
570 XP (2007-01)-->Crankshaft
575 XP (2007-01)-->Crankshaft
575 XP (EPA) (2007-01)-->Crankshaft
570 (2008-08)-->Crankshaft
570 EPA (2008-08)-->Crankshaft
576 XP (2008-08)-->Crankshaft
576 XP EPA (2008-08)-->Crankshaft
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 660magnum on December 08, 2014, 05:16:05 pm
The 6202 also fits the Husqvarna 372 family
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2014, 07:00:00 pm
Only 1 side uses that bearing and 372 seal Jim. ;)


I'm looking at the other side that is like 6203 and seal as a kit.

575xp

RADIAL SEAL    505416101    $7.67    $7.67
KIT   BALL BEARING    525434201    $30.03    $30.03
SLEEVE    537205801    $4.96    $4.96
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Tractorsaw1 on December 09, 2014, 11:29:18 am
Kevin, the case on my 2083 has a suspect spot on it that's been patched.  I am going to check out the seals, but the 505 case halves are available for $105 with bearings & seals, tempting tempting.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2014, 12:22:55 pm
Heads up T dont get fooled by some sites showing you can buy.  When I got my first saw in this series it was a 415 with busted case. Several sites show you can buy them. But they didnt have them.

Straight from OrderTree

39
   503420005
Add to cart   
Crankcase Ass'y (Incl. 2, 8, 16, 50, & 55)
   



    HOP
    503420005
    Part is No Longer Available (and none in stock)
     
     

    HOPC
    503420005
    Purchase of item disallowed
     
     

    HOP
    503420005
    Part is No Longer Available (and none in stock)
     
     

    AYP
    503420005
    Part is No Longer Available (and none in stock)
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 660magnum on December 09, 2014, 01:44:23 pm
Many parts places like "E" replacement parts do not actually have inventory.

Their "in Stock" icons are not exactly real time.

If I have my doubts, I ask them to personally check by phone if it is still available?
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Tractorsaw1 on December 09, 2014, 02:28:22 pm
I was afraid of that.  I guess that's prolly what the top cover is gonna say also  >:(  I gotta trade deal in the works & the fella was gonna let me know if he had any, the case may be ok as redneck repaired & I may just let it ride.  I did see some 2077 cases for reasonable on the chainsawr store, I kinda like that place.  I may step up to the plate & try some of those seal numbers, but I have not got that far yet.  Thanks for posting all those up!
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2014, 07:46:13 pm
T = There is a 475 case with crank etc for $41 and ship. You know where, same guy you sent a link to me on something else.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 09, 2014, 09:42:38 pm
T = There is a 475 case with crank etc for $41 and ship. You know where, same guy you sent a link to me on something else.

That person must have stripped a 475 down and is selling off all the parts.   I got the clutch cover from the same saw coming.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Tractorsaw1 on December 10, 2014, 09:37:32 am
I thought the 475 seals were the cant find ones or where harder to get?  I probably would think about it if there wasn't a couple of broken places on those.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun on December 10, 2014, 12:49:50 pm
I thought the 475 seals were the cant find ones or where harder to get?  I probably would think about it if there wasn't a couple of broken places on those.

That is true on the PTO side for the old seal 475 415. The new updated 505 445 425 PTO seal and bearing set work in those too.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 10, 2014, 04:17:34 pm
saving

       BEARING W/SEA    503252002    $19.31    $38.62
      GASKET    503428501    $2.94    $5.88
      SEAL OIL    505275719    $3.96    $7.92
      ASSY OIL CAP    501626601    $2.65    $2.65
      SPACER    503764501    $1.31    $3.93
      Gas Cap    501431402    $2.65    $2.65
      INSERT REAR H    503427502    $1.70    $5.10
      SPACER    503230014    $0.92    $0.92
      KWICK KIT K1    503088401    $15.73    $15.73

http://www.jackssmallengines.com/Jacks-Parts-Lookup/Model-Diagram/POULAN/4994/543
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 10, 2014, 04:18:17 pm
T they show both covers still in stock cylinder and air filter.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 13, 2014, 11:39:24 am
Guy I got the 505 project from contacted me about a af cover he found in a scrap pile.  I bought it so I dont have to use my NOS cover on the project.  8)

Roger did you get that PP475 clutch cover linked in the wanted thread?   8)

Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 13, 2014, 03:07:41 pm
Oh yea.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Tractorsaw1 on December 13, 2014, 10:00:09 pm
Anybody here get the 425 off the bay?  I almost made an offer.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 13, 2014, 10:06:09 pm
Anybody here get the 425 off the bay?  I almost made an offer.

I missed that one.  Did not even see it.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 13, 2014, 10:50:50 pm
Seen it. 425 is a updated 415.  65cc quad port
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Tractorsaw1 on December 14, 2014, 11:21:14 pm
made an offer on a 2077, shipping was more than the saw, but parts is parts :) Has an odd looking gas cap, haven't seen one like that.  I'll get a pic up later
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 15, 2014, 11:36:42 am
I got at least 2 different types of caps here. 
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Barneyrb on December 17, 2014, 07:01:44 pm
I thought the 475 seals were the cant find ones or where harder to get?  I probably would think about it if there wasn't a couple of broken places on those.

That is true on the PTO side for the old seal 475 415. The new updated 505 445 425 PTO seal and bearing set work in those too.

Yes, replace the old style with the new style and carry on....
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: aclarke on January 14, 2015, 07:59:43 pm
Anyone know the 505 pin dia. ?  Adam
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 14, 2015, 08:05:56 pm
Same as 372 066 mm I cant say off hand. Brain farting

Thats why you can use 372BB 064 in 475 and 066 in 505. Yes it is the cats meow IMO for your friends finger ported one.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: man of stihl on January 14, 2015, 08:23:38 pm
Stihl 066 660    54mm
Piston Pin 12mm x 8mm x 33mm
Pin top to top of Piston 17mm
Height 43mm

This piston works great in the 505/2083
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: aclarke on January 14, 2015, 09:33:12 pm
Thanks guys... just the info I needed
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2015, 10:25:03 am
Thanks guys... just the info I needed

More info me and Ron has posted.

Mine.

I paid closer attention to my measurements this time and measured the squish.   I came up with .0245 at tightest on the afm 066 piston with USED gasket.

The oem 505 with oem piston on the other saw when I installed today was .040 with NEW oem gasket.

 I checked the 425 top before puling it and it was .0435 with used gasket.


Ron

066 Meteor piston is .020 higher then 2083 OEM piston. Squish with gasket, OEM piston was .041. With 066 piston squish is at .021. Comp is at 170 pounds. The 2083 rod is wider than the 066, piston needs to be opened up. Runs good



Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2015, 05:18:55 pm
I know the 52mm one sold by meteor is not a good match for 475.  I wonder if anything was changed for the 54mm pistons.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/JONSERED-2083-PISTON-KIT-54MM-PART-503723502-HIGH-QUAILTY-PISTON-KIT-NEW-/141531973209?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f3f68659
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2015, 05:20:59 pm
I know the top one here is not a good match for 475.

52mm meteor 475  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Piston-Kit-fit-JONSERED-2077-2083-II-EPA-PARTNER-7700-POULAN-PRO-475-52mm-/171163484902?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27da2382e6


Dont know if this piston below specs different or not. 475

red barn 52mm 475  http://www.ebay.com/itm/JONSERED-2077-2083II-52MM-PISTON-KIT-REPLACE-PART-503420802-HIGH-QUAILTY-/141531960444?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f3f6547c
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 07, 2015, 09:22:20 pm
Roger I know somewhere you mentioned a new 505 project.  I cant find it right now with my shine on again ;).  So tell us more whats going on etc.

just interested here.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 07, 2015, 09:59:46 pm
I have a Poulan 505 that I bought about 8 months ago.   The piston and cylinder look good but the carb is bad on it.   The gas tank is also leaking and the safety lever in the handle is missing.   There might be some other things missing or wrong but have not dug into it.   I have a good fuel tank from a J-red 2083 that I was going to use on it.   
I will also tear it down and do the usual like seals, rebuild the carb, get rid of the base gasket, and muff mod it.

Hope to make another good runner out of it.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun on March 09, 2015, 01:35:28 pm
I have a Poulan 505 that I bought about 8 months ago.   The piston and cylinder look good but the carb is bad on it.   The gas tank is also leaking and the safety lever in the handle is missing.   There might be some other things missing or wrong but have not dug into it.   I have a good fuel tank from a J-red 2083 that I was going to use on it.   
I will also tear it down and do the usual like seals, rebuild the carb, get rid of the base gasket, and muff mod it.

Hope to make another good runner out of it.

Just found this  :-[. Didnt even remember making that post  :-[.  Thanks for info.   

If you take pics post up what you do in case you do something different we can learn from.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Eccentric on March 09, 2015, 02:54:55 pm
During your searches for suitable piston substitutes for these saws, have you guys looked at either the 272XP or 181SE/281XP pistons for the 52mm saws and 288XP pistons for the 54mm saws?  Meteor makes pistons for all of those....
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 09, 2015, 04:54:50 pm
During your searches for suitable piston substitutes for these saws, have you guys looked at either the 272XP or 181SE/281XP pistons for the 52mm saws and 288XP pistons for the 54mm saws?  Meteor makes pistons for all of those....

I have never looked Aaron.   
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 660magnum on March 09, 2015, 05:08:31 pm
Cut4fun used a aftermarket big bore 372 piston in one of his Poulans. It was 52mm
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 09, 2015, 05:17:17 pm
I'm sure there is a reason no one ever used them in the 475 505 2083 2077etc. 

I had threads on the 54mm and 52mm piston searches way back.  Just have to compare all the specs etc. 

BB372 064 and 066 were my best choices. BB372 drop in no work. 064 and 066 need wrist pin bosses opened a tad.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 09, 2015, 05:22:37 pm
Till I figure out where other piston threads are.

272 meteor

Diam
52.00
Compression
24.00
Head
P
Length
40.50
Pin
12 X 33 X 8


281  meteor

Diam
52.00
Compression
22.00
Head
P
Length
43.00
Pin
13 X 37 X 8


288 meteor

Diam
54.00
Compression
22.00
Head
P
Length
43.00
Pin
13 X 37 X 8
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 09, 2015, 05:23:25 pm
13mm 281 288 to big of wrist pin.

Just guessing 272 might need spacer like in 7900.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 09, 2015, 05:25:18 pm
other 52mm

475 2077 oem piston

52mm
top of pin hole to crown 16.75mm
height 42.65mm
pin 12mm



BB372

Bore 52mm
Height 42.5mm
Piston Pin 12mm x 8mm x 36mm
Pin to top of Piston 16.75mm



Stihl 064, MS 640 Meteor
   
    Height 43mm   
    Pin 12mm x 33mm x 8mm
    Pin hole top to top of Piston 17mm


Stihl 046, MS 460

Bore 52mm
Height 39.25mm
Compression/Pin Top to top of Piston 15.5mm
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 17, 2016, 07:54:01 pm
I have always wanted to do a muffler mod on one of my Poulan 505's.  So I came up with this.   I like to use a small piece of pipe for most of my muffler mods and have a place to put the spark arrestor.    Ignore the clutch cover that says 475 I have not found a 505 cover for it yet.


Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 17, 2016, 09:03:49 pm
Did you open up that baffle inside? 

Thinking about it. If that is the muffler that I got from Ron I think he may of opened the baffle inside and the outer outlet area.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: jmester on February 17, 2016, 09:16:22 pm
That is pretty slick I like it. Good job
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 17, 2016, 09:19:24 pm
Did you open up that baffle inside? 

Thinking about it. If that is the muffler that I got from Ron I think he may of opened the baffle inside and the outer outlet area.

This is a different saw.   The baffle was not opened inside but when I was done with it I opened the baffle to twice the size of the exhaust port.   It is with out a doubt on the loud side but it is snappy on the throttle and runs great.   This is one I got after the one I bought from you.   I needed the worm gear for the oiler and could not find one.   I have a 3rd 505 I was gathering parts for to make it a runner and used the worm gear from it.   Eventually I will come up with a fix for that oiler and get the 3rd saw running.   All of my 505's are stock but the 3rd I think I will port myself.    That way I know it will really get ported and not just drop a cylinder a little. 
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 18, 2016, 02:41:37 pm
Very cool.

Green 505 project rebuild that was in its own thread. http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/lime-green-505/

Roger you have noticed the 2 different muffler used? 

One like you shown came with saw.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/GREEN505012_zps003ef031.jpg)



I went with this style on the WT 505.  I like these because you can remove the baffle.

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Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 18, 2016, 06:38:24 pm
Yes I have both types.   I sure wish I could find more of the type that comes apart so that you can just remove the baffle if you want.     Right now I grind away at the baffle  from the opening on both sides.  I can get it pretty good using my foredom grinder.
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Tractorsaw1 on March 08, 2016, 02:04:28 pm
I noticed my 2083 muffler had been tacked together, was that a common issue with the 2 piece mufflers coming apart?  Is it still possible to get the case gasket for this series anywhere?
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 08, 2016, 02:18:31 pm
I never seen a 2 piece one tack welded yet.

Also somewhere here I posted the case gasket for the jonsered that is still available.
Title: Re: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 18, 2017, 03:45:40 pm
Pulled the wild thing 505 cylinder today to help the guy out with a 2083 build.  The 475 crank and 505 cylinder are going to him.

Title: Re: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun on March 09, 2017, 01:20:24 pm
Been going back and forth on getting 1 bigger saw to replace all my bigger poulans.
After much thought. Last night I decided I wasnt going to be gaining that much moving to a new 390xp 2188 or a used 385xp 2186.  55mm bore and 54mm bore with 37mm stroke.

My biggest poulan is 54mm bore with 36mm stroke and weighs about a 1lb-1.5lbs less PHO.

Glad I can quit wrestling with this thought now and move onto something else to buy.  :P ;D 

LOL son says his summer college internship books for classes etc is $450.  So know where some is going.  :D :'(
Title: Re: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 22, 2017, 02:11:45 pm
The used 54mm 2083 piston had a heavy carbon crust on it. So I am trying something a little different to soften and clean it up some.

I took Berryman B-12 and poured into metal shallow dish. Put piston top down and filled to just over ring groove.  This stuff works IMO compared to the snake oil seafoam ;) Just from what I have noticed from my uses.

It wasnt a minute and the B-12 was turning brown.

Try TEST to load a pic with new puter.  Been so much fun.  Cant find pics when saved etc.  :D

Makes pic to be to load. Need to figure this new puter out.

Going to post link to pic another way till I figure it out. removed



Title: Re: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 22, 2017, 04:52:37 pm
 :o  This stuff is awesome for doing what I said above.  It does evaporate totally in the 24hrs between pouring and checking on it. 

Testing pic after resizing with new photo crap.   :'(


Title: Re: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 23, 2017, 05:35:24 pm
1st 24hr soaking took 99% of it by softening and loosing it right up to easily scrape. Did a 2nd soaking for 24hrs to see if I could get anymore and just very little left to remove. 
Very happy with this method and will use form here on, on used carboned up pistons.
Title: Re: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 01, 2017, 06:36:23 pm
Hmmmm maybe I should pull it off here and get it back on the bench quick like.   Need to get this back together.



Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 11, 2017, 04:35:52 pm
Finally got all my mowers ready for season and everyone elses saws done.
So I made time today to put my 505 83cc back together with piston and cylinder off 2083.
New impulse line using echo black 3mmx6mm. Also went back to stock muffler and left the modded muffler off for testing purposes. Test cuts made and cutting great. Even the ole guy approved. ;)
If you dont remember the story why torn down I helped a guy up in B.C. that needed a 54mm cylinder and crankshaft. I sold him a crank out of my 475 I had tore down for new crank bearings an then sold him my 505 cylinder.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 11, 2017, 05:45:53 pm
I have been working on my 505 too.    I have the cylinder done and just waiting on the ring to show up and will start putting it back together.   It will have a red fuel tank. 
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 11, 2017, 07:25:48 pm
I have been working on my 505 too.    I have the cylinder done and just waiting on the ring to show up and will start putting it back together.   It will have a red fuel tank. 

I put a new caber ring in this one. Even though I couldnt see any difference in the one I took off. 

Getting ready to pull the yellow tank on other 415 on bench and put a black tank on it with the updated filter system.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 15, 2017, 02:23:20 pm
Alright I got the ring in and have the cylinder back on.   New Caber rings.
Cleaned up the ports some and added a few finger ports.
No base gasket and new rubber intake.    The 475 and 505 intake boots are the same.   
I did the Cut4fun tried and true method of checking the seals while the cylinder was off.   
I let it sit for about 4 hours and not a hint of any leaks.   
So the crank shaft seals are going to stay.


Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 15, 2017, 03:08:03 pm
Nice...

I was working on the 415 today myself.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: mdavlee . on April 16, 2017, 01:01:25 am
Alright I got the ring in and have the cylinder back on.   New Caber rings.
Cleaned up the ports some and added a few finger ports.
No base gasket and new rubber intake.    The 475 and 505 intake boots are the same.   
I did the Cut4fun tried and true method of checking the seals while the cylinder was off.   
I let it sit for about 4 hours and not a hint of any leaks.   
So the crank shaft seals are going to stay.
Looking good there.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 16, 2017, 08:05:09 am
Roger you ever tried to pull just the seal part on the 505 PTO side yet? 
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 16, 2017, 10:10:39 am
No I have not done that.   I would have split the case though if the seals did not pass.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 16, 2017, 11:26:25 am
Guys are saying on the CR FB group that they have removed the early 385 pto seal before.  PITA though they said. 

I tried on a 505 I have with just a bad pto seal and it just tears. I cant get the seal part out. 
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 16, 2017, 09:06:56 pm
Roger noticed something for first time today.  PTO side cases little different on the 505 445 425 compared to 475 415. 

Look at pto side where 2 lower case bolts go through.  Just never caught that on the front one.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 16, 2017, 09:15:12 pm
I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 17, 2017, 02:05:51 pm
Saving pto seal 503 26 09-01   503260901 

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 Husqvarna 505416101 (replaces 503260901)

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Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 21, 2017, 05:32:23 pm
More progress.   I have the muffler mod done but I may have to change the deflector a little more so it does not point at the brake handle.   
I am still waiting for a unlimited coil and carb kit to show up.

So far the Jonsered 2083 tank/handle has been a perfect fit.

Title: Re: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: sharkey on April 28, 2017, 10:25:11 am
Pulled the wild thing 505 cylinder today to help the guy out with a 2083 build.  The 475 crank and 505 cylinder are going to him.

Kudos to you for helping!   
Title: Re: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 28, 2017, 02:19:30 pm
Been known to pull running saws down for folks to get parts they need.  Heck pulled a whole crankcase for a guy off my PP365. Just sent a guy a tank off my 3450 I was rebuilding. etc etc.   
If I have plenty and know I can find it down the road. I have no problem helping folks out. = I seem to be able to find parts I need.  8) :P

Forgot to put the back together pic here. I had put them in the other 505 thread.

Another 83cc topend from a 2083 with oem piston and new caber ring.  Echo black line for impulse line this time around.

New 28" set up for now.



Title: Re: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 29, 2017, 03:33:45 pm
Finished the Poulan 505 today.   IF there was any doubt about a 2083 gas tank fitting a 505 well it is an exact fit.

The squish without the base gasket .028".

Compression 135 PSI.   Not bad for here and not even broke in.

RPM's with 28" bar and chain no load 13,700 and the idle was at 2,800 RPM's. 

Another great running 83cc saw. 

Title: Re: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: mdavlee . on April 29, 2017, 07:54:00 pm
Nice.
Title: Re: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 30, 2017, 10:48:26 am
Cool   8)

Another one lives.  :P
 
Title: Re: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 30, 2017, 10:56:46 am
Roger be interesting to see the difference in the 505's run back to back with same chain and wood.   

The 7901 I had that  that Big Dave Neiger put finger ports in made a difference I was told comparing with and without them. It was a work saw.
Title: Re: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 30, 2017, 02:18:08 pm
I am wondering if I can get 14,000 RPM's out of it once it is broke in.      I do not believe any of my other saws in that series will turn that kind of RPM.
Title: Re: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 30, 2017, 04:16:47 pm
I'd be more concerned what it holds in the cut instead of out of the cut.  The in the cut rpms is what counts IMHO.
Title: Re: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 30, 2017, 10:26:37 pm
I forgot to mention the oiler works great.   Thanks Kevin.   

Yea I agree it is the RPM's in the cut that count.    I will have to check that when I get a chance .    Right now I have cut most of my wood up and really have no way of testing until I get some more.   
Title: Re: Lime green poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 01, 2017, 02:28:07 pm
Did some more cutting today with the 505 mostly just noodling a bunch of uglys I have around.     I did find one piece of cedar that I could get a couple of test cuts in and tach the saw while in the cut.    Cedar was 12" across not very big.

No load tacked out at 13,800 today and still 4 stroking.
With the saw in the wood the tach went from 12,000 to 11,000.   I would like to later on get something I can square up and test it again.   
Probably with some better wood I am thinking it will drop down into the 10,000 range.   

I can then test a stock saw out at that time to see how it compares.     
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 03, 2017, 05:41:06 pm
Dont worry about those pulleys Roger IMHO. Same pulleys in husky, jonsered ;).
Only time they break that I have seen is when old and brittle like any plastic pulley on any saw.

Plenty of them out there new. ;)

pics



Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 03, 2017, 07:19:33 pm
  I have modified and advanced the timing on a bunch of saws now and have never broken a pulley and I never use the decomps even if a saw has them. 
personally I do not like decomps.  That is just my personal preference.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 03, 2017, 07:41:38 pm
Just wondering how you cut the inner baffle hole? 

Think that one 505 I sent you past owner had done that too from back side.  But yours looks way more opened up from pics inside there.

Your pic

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Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 03, 2017, 11:34:03 pm
I first opened the front with a burr and then drilled some holes through the baffle and used a burr once again on it and tried to line all the openings up so I would have a straight shot from back to the front of the muffler.   
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: mdavlee . on May 04, 2017, 06:59:36 am
266 I believe is the same pulley
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 04, 2017, 01:55:45 pm
I remember jonsered 625 630 670     There was 2 on the 630 and the early was 10mm center and later 14mm center
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun on May 04, 2017, 03:27:05 pm
Well with a rainy day again.

I got some questions Roger.

Did you remove any off base or just a gasket delete?  Squish you ended up with using oem piston? I know there are some posted here. But I used 066 piston.

All the intake boots are the same.

The tanks all fit all the saws. 2 different tanks but all work.
There is the older like on 415 475 and some of the jreds too. They use the older air filter set ups and only different I founf on the tanks. All in the carb area.  It can all be removed to use the new updated air filter system like on 505 and later jreds.

So what made you try putting finger ports in this 505?  I would be scared as heck of messing up a hard to find 83cc top myself.
Finger ports worked in the 7900 Dave Neiger did.
Know of alot of 5 cube race saws that only used finger ports in the 181 281 instead of the external ports. 
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 04, 2017, 03:49:51 pm
I only deleted the base gasket and did not remove anything from the base of the cylinder.   That squish was also using  the OEM piston. 
I believe the squish was at .028". 

I have read where some people will stagger the finger ports to open and close at different times in relation to the transfer ports but I used the piston to make them all at the same height.    I have done a lot of reading on finger ports and always wanted to try them and since this saw was made of different saw parts I decided this was the one I would try it on. 

I always like to think that it is not just one modification that makes a saw run good but the combination of a lot of different things.   
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 04, 2017, 03:53:22 pm
Missed the squish # with the oem piston and base gasket delete.   Info?
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 04, 2017, 03:54:51 pm
You think I should merge the green 505 thread to this thread?   That way all the 505 info in one thread.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 04, 2017, 04:13:54 pm
You think I should merge the green 505 thread to this thread?   That way all the 505 info in one thread.
Went ahead and merged. But left the green 505 titles in their posts.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 04, 2017, 06:44:16 pm
Missed the squish # with the oem piston and base gasket delete.   Info?

I believe it was at a .028" when done.   
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 04, 2017, 07:04:16 pm
I decided to do another compression test today.   The first time was right after building the saw and had not run it.   It was 135PSI>
I have about a tank and 1/2 of fuel through it now and compression is 140 PSI.    I have a feeling as the ring breaks in the compression will go up more.

By the way Kevin I used a ball hone on the cylinder to finish it off after porting. 
Title: Re: Poulan 505 projects
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 04, 2017, 07:54:21 pm
Thanks guys... just the info I needed

More info me and Ron has posted.

Mine.

I paid closer attention to my measurements this time and measured the squish.   I came up with .0245 at tightest on the afm 066 piston with USED gasket.

The oem 505 with oem piston on the other saw when I installed today was .040 with NEW oem gasket.

 I checked the 425 top before puling it and it was .0435 with used gasket.


Ron

066 Meteor piston is .020 higher then 2083 OEM piston. Squish with gasket, OEM piston was .041. With 066 piston squish is at .021. Comp is at 170 pounds. The 2083 rod is wider than the 066, piston needs to be opened up. Runs good

@3000 FPS  found some of the past squish info.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 04, 2017, 08:04:29 pm
The squish with the 066 piston is impressive.    That would be one to try next.   
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: mdavlee . on May 05, 2017, 02:33:24 am
I like adding finger ports. Puts transfer flow more towards the I take side and aimed upward towards the plug. The dual transfer are ones I look at fingers in.

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Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 29, 2017, 02:40:44 pm
So I removed the Oem piston from the 505 and have 066 piston installed.    I put a new base gasket on and with the base gasket I got a squish of .023".    I got to looking at the stock piston and found the skirt was worn pretty good and that is why I decided to go with 066 piston.    Because of the finger ports I installed the piston backwards to clear all the ports from the ring gaps.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 29, 2017, 02:52:47 pm
So I removed the Oem piston from the 505 and have 066 piston installed.    I put a new base gasket on and with the base gasket I got a squish of .023".    I got to looking at the stock piston and found the skirt was worn pretty good and that is why I decided to go with 066 piston.    Because of the finger ports I installed the piston backwards to clear all the ports from the ring gaps.

I didnt think of that with your finger ports and the 066 piston and pin alignment.  My race 166 was like that. Had to run the piston backwards.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 29, 2017, 02:58:02 pm
Just in case you ever want to put a stock oem PP505 piston on the shelf. Little pricey at $106 and shipping. 503723502
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 29, 2017, 03:13:36 pm
Just in case you ever want to put a stock oem PP505 piston on the shelf. Little pricey at $106 and shipping. 503723502

Yep that is getting up there in price.   Heck I did not know you could even find one.    I did use my OEM circlips from the old Poulan piston.   I like the way they looked better than what came with the Meteor piston.     
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 29, 2017, 08:24:43 pm
So I got the 505 all back together and tomorrow will make some test cuts.     

One of the things I did on this saw is to make a new steel ring that fits on the carb boot and the carburetor bolts to it.   I noticed the OEM one was bending and I think it was causing an air leak.   The new ring I made was twice as thick and a little bigger.    This one should hold nice and flat for the carb to mate up to.   
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: mdavlee . on June 30, 2017, 07:50:24 am
Nice. Those saws are strong runners
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 30, 2017, 02:32:44 pm
Went to test the 505 today and could not get it to adjust with the carb.    Seemed like it was lean.    Bogging on acceleration and would not 4 stroke on the WOT.

So tore it back down to do a pressure and vacuum test.   Well it passes with flying colors.

So now I am thinking the stinking carb has to be the problem.    Bingo.   I took one off one of the other 505.   

Sure had me chasing my tail.     Need to finish putting back together and will test later.

I know one thing,  it sure has a lot more compression than it did before.      I will have to do a gauge and see where it is at.   
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 30, 2017, 03:04:26 pm
Hate chasing issues that come back to the carb. Seems I check everything it acts like till only carb left.
But least you found it.

You were saying earlier the metal plate that goes around boot that carb bolts tighten into on yours was bending?  Hadnt seen that happen. But know now to watch for it.  8)

Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 30, 2017, 03:39:28 pm
Hate chasing issues that come back to the carb. Seems I check everything it acts like till only carb left.
But least you found it.

You were saying earlier the metal plate that goes around boot that carb bolts tighten into on yours was bending?  Hadnt seen that happen. But know now to watch for it.  8)



I think the plastic was warped some and was contributing to that.    I took a good look at it today and it is nice and flat now.   

Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 30, 2017, 04:01:57 pm
Did you have the inner and outer rings installed too?  Shown in this poulan 505 445 425 IPL  http://www.klippo.com/ddoc/POUI/POUI1997_USen/POUI1997_USen__530083227.pdf

#44 #32
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 30, 2017, 11:24:02 pm
Yes I have both rings on the intake boot and the third one which is where the carb screws into.     The plastic is sandwiched in between.   
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 01, 2017, 11:16:25 am
Just saving some pics of rupedoggy ole saws  Poulan 475 with 505 cylinder raced in 5ci out west. Now being raced in Ohio by new owner.

rupedoggy = Next is the Poulan pro on the 475 chassis. It has the 505 cylinder and model HD bored to the max. This is gas fired and was my 5 cubic inch racer.

Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 01, 2017, 10:32:01 pm
Alright the 505 with the Stihl piston is up and running.   

Did some testing today and had a few surprises.

The compression is about the same as before with the OEM piston.

The RPM's have increased.   I am now taching 14,200 and still 4 stroking good.

The RPM's in the cut using a piece of Elm at 16" long and was noodling.   11,800 to 12,000.

The saw idles and run good and oiler is working good.   

I am pretty happy with the conversion and I think it will only get better.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: mdavlee . on July 02, 2017, 08:01:46 am
That sounds likeits running great
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 06, 2017, 09:06:13 am
Guessing the psi was the same due to new piston kit and new rings not seated yet.

You said you put the base gasket in with the 066 piston right.  On the oem piston you didnt run the gasket? 
That would also made up for the taller 066 piston that would have gave more psi without gasket too.  Just trying to figure it out.

Anyhow got to do any comparisons yet.  Sounds like the modded one is running good.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 06, 2017, 09:52:58 am
Guessing the psi was the same due to new piston kit and new rings not seated yet.

You said you put the base gasket in with the 066 piston right.  On the oem piston you didnt run the gasket? 
That would also made up for the taller 066 piston that would have gave more psi without gasket too.  Just trying to figure it out.

Anyhow got to do any comparisons yet.  Sounds like the modded one is running good.

Yes with the 066 piston it has a base gasket and when running the stock 505 piston I no base gasket.   
I think the reason for no change in compression has to be rings not seated in yet, plus I checked it when it was cold.   I bet if I run it some and let it cool just a little the compression will show higher.   The compression sure feels higher and it is running strong in the cut.

Also I think I am going to tune it for a higher RPM because it is still 4 stroking really good, and is a lot better than before.

I have not been to the mountains yet for some test wood.   But I will, I need to get about 2.5 cord still.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 11, 2017, 12:17:38 pm
Just sharing some info.  Was told that a exact copy aftermarket 505 2083 54mm piston should be for sale in a few weeks. Instead of the aftermarket 54mm one that looks just like a 066 piston. 

Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 11, 2017, 06:57:25 pm
Just sharing some info.  Was told that a exact copy aftermarket 505 2083 54mm piston should be for sale in a few weeks. Instead of the aftermarket 54mm one that looks just like a 066 piston. 

More info = The piston mold cost me a $1,000 to have made, I can have any oem piston made, just need to turn numbers to pay for tooling
Check back in about 2 weeks for a update on when they will be here
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: mdavlee . on August 11, 2017, 07:01:49 pm
Who had these made?
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 11, 2017, 07:28:47 pm
Who had these made?

No clue where they are made at.  WAG China, Taiwan I would reckon.  Red Barn having them done and they seem to have up and down results with the ones made.

Know Caber and oem clips for sure if I ever check one of their pistons out. JMO
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: mdavlee . on August 11, 2017, 07:56:57 pm
They have been hit or miss on quality
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 12, 2017, 12:26:59 pm
Who had these made?

No clue where they are made at.  WAG China, Taiwan I would reckon.  Red Barn having them done and they seem to have up and down results with the ones made.

Know Caber and oem clips for sure if I ever check one of their pistons out. JMO


Info today. I hope they do a good quality on these. If not will just keep using stihl 066 piston when needed.

It will look like the 2077 piston item number 141531960444 but will be 54mm
The mold is made they are casting this week a order of 3,000 pistons for me and the Jonsered 2083 54mm is on that order, once the cast, machine, inspect, box will take approximately 15 days and then ship to me, as soon as they arrive I'll change the picture here on ebay
Thanks
Lee


Pic of 2077 475 piston

Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 10, 2017, 03:32:04 pm
Just sharing some info.  Was told that a exact copy aftermarket 505 2083 54mm piston should be for sale in a few weeks. Instead of the aftermarket 54mm one that looks just like a 066 piston. 

More info = The piston mold cost me a $1,000 to have made, I can have any oem piston made, just need to turn numbers to pay for tooling
Check back in about 2 weeks for a update on when they will be here

If anyone trys these let us know. New aftermarket 54mm piston. poulan pro 505 jonsered 2083 piston  503723502

new pic

Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 10, 2017, 11:20:24 pm
After using the Meteor piston for a 066 in the Poulan 505 I do not think I would go to anything else unless it was a OEM piston.   
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 11, 2017, 07:50:23 am
After using the Meteor piston for a 066 in the Poulan 505 I do not thing I would go to anything else unless it was a OEM piston.   

About how I feel too and the 064 meteor for the 475 2077 2083II.  Even though the BB372 aftermarket is a drop in for 475. Just not as nice a piston as meteor puts out. 
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: fossil on September 18, 2017, 08:50:08 pm
Kevin,

What's your opinion of the 415? This line of saws are rarely seen in my area. I ran Roger's 445? (70cc or so) at a GTG and was impressed by it.

I was wondering if the 415 was a fast 65cc saw?

Thanks

Tim
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: mdavlee . on September 19, 2017, 06:49:56 am
415 is like a 365 cylinder wise. Shoukd be able to be made fast.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 19, 2017, 09:20:49 am
415 425 is a 48mm version of the 50mm 445. Great cylinder IMO and one of the strogest fastest cutting 65cc I have ran.

Only thing I think will make it better is a different piston in the 415 425. The oem p is lacking IMO but runs goooood.  I think a piston like in the 445 would be better pick. Yep husky makes that piston too.

Right 415 425 445 style
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 19, 2017, 09:44:47 am
Trying to work around PB block pics.  To save some bigger pics for you.

right side of these



Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: fossil on September 19, 2017, 09:52:46 am
Thanks for the info Kevin!

Tim
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 19, 2017, 09:58:14 am
Thanks for the info Kevin!

Tim

Tim same chain in ash stock 415, muffler modded 6700 with big 8000 carb, plus a 3800 I had on hand. Videos https://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/saws-in-action/poulan-vs-echo/msg63200/#msg63200
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 19, 2017, 11:34:59 am
Yep that 415 was a lot quicker.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: mdavlee . on September 19, 2017, 08:10:11 pm
Wonder if a 365 piston would fit
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 19, 2017, 08:59:56 pm
Wonder if a 365 piston would fit

Yep thats what will go in them for replacements.

(https://www.hlsproparts.com/v/vspfiles/photos/PC1681-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 20, 2018, 07:43:25 am
Got these ready for last sat morning if able to get out. Icing pretty bad and dropped 26 degrees since morning.  Was called for for a guy needing help with a big ash down.

Was canceled.

Update from yesterdays cutting in the frozen wood. Blowing winds, ice and snow covered big time.   :D


Finally got the recall for the cutting.  So I could test the 385 and 505 out.
Tree I started on 32" didnt reach across last 2 cuts.  Pretty wood. Was told ash but I dont know about that. 2nd tree was ash.

I worked on 1st tree and after I finished mine up. Went and finished the other tree for the other guy that was cutting with 272 036.  He said you cut little faster then I am used too. He was still on the small end.  :P

385 stock impressed me with 32" full skip. 505 had 28" full comp and it to impressed me being on its first tanks since topend rebuild.   

I came to the conclusion I will be able to sell the 385 in the future soon.  505 does all I need done.

Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 03, 2018, 10:24:45 pm
UPDATE to above:  Found out that big tree I was cutting on first was chestnut.   Knew it was pretty wood and not 2 ash down like I was told. 2nd one was ash though.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 03, 2018, 10:26:48 pm
Ran these 3 today with 28" buried in ash.

505 just starting 2nd tank after rebuild.

505 385 ran same chain LGX like new with rakers lowered tad more then off the reel.

064 off the reel new LGX.

52mm 40mm 064

54mm  37mm 385

54mm 36mm  505

https://youtu.be/APZmQ6AtmXc
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 07, 2018, 09:26:46 am
Oh dang. I priced my 505 wild thing to a guy in BC and I think he wants it.  :o

Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 07, 2018, 11:29:03 am
Oh well.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 11, 2018, 07:59:15 am
Well we will know in 2-3 weeks if he came up with the $. Says he wants it. USPS International mail was $135 with lots of insurance USD to BC for a big heavy package. = crazy.
But only choice as I have shipped 505 2083 topends and cranks there before.
Saving pics I sent.
This saw cuts with good running 385 and 064.
If it dont sell wont break my heart.

Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 06, 2018, 08:45:03 am
Most know do not use the aftermarket rings that come with the afm cheaper kits.  Replace with Cabers or OEM.

Info I read on the lil red barn piston kit 54mm.

((((( I recently picked up a jonsered 2083  and was told it didn't run right.  Checked it out and the ring was broken in half on the piston.
Piston was a lil red barn replacement, ring was broke in the middle of the exhaust.)))))

UPDATED : WASNT THE LRB PISTONS FAULT.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 06, 2018, 11:18:03 am
Yep some good info.   Thanks.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 06, 2018, 07:39:26 pm
Who had these made?

I been hitting him up asking about the lrb pistons. But all he would say is made in Europe but not Turkey. Dont know why the big secret with them.    ::) :D
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 08, 2018, 07:44:17 am
Oh there was a 505 builder too I just missed on. Before buying 2083. I was next in line but the guy before me bought it (which I know).
I know where it went when shipped to Ohio.  ;)

Pics  cyl looked like it could be saved, p was ruined and the afm one was lrb 2 ring said for 2083 but must have been a 066 p mold used.



Pics I was sent





Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 15, 2018, 11:08:49 am
Been about a week now so just sharing it here too. Guy in the chainsaw repair group selling a poulan 505 bowsaw. 

I was talking to him about it without the bow saw part as dont do those myself.

 



Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 15, 2018, 11:11:34 am
Dodged the saw bullet too. = Guy couldnt come up with the $$$ for my 505 shipped.  8) :P
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: ms460woodchuck on August 06, 2018, 08:18:00 pm
When I changed my coil there was absolutely no difference in the wood.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 07, 2018, 08:42:51 am
When I changed my coil there was absolutely no difference in the wood.

John one way that could be true.

Depends on the bar length and the wood your cutting. My 505 with unlimited coil with smaller bars and wood is cutting faster in the wood r's then the 10K rev limited coil allowed. 
So only if you were staying under the 10K rev limited coil r's in the wood would that be true.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: SquareFile on August 14, 2018, 10:23:21 am
Those limited coils are odd. They show 10k banging on tach but I've seen north of 15k in the cut once turned up.https://youtu.be/7uybKS800ZM
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 14, 2018, 10:32:19 am
415 comes with unlimited coils, black too.


Also as mentioned before. Not all green coils in this series are rev limited.  445 505 2083 475
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: SquareFile on August 14, 2018, 11:47:57 am
I've tested green coils from all models, non hit limited in the cut. Just **** revs. I've grenades them going unlimited. Way to many free revs and getting to the wood to slow.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 14, 2018, 11:57:26 am
Your lot faster to the wood then I ever thought of of my slow azz  :D.  What kind of time do you have for yourself to the wood now days?
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: SquareFile on August 15, 2018, 08:33:29 am
my hotsaw wheelies bad. 1.3 for now. I'll get it someday. Sub one second is my goal for next year.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 15, 2018, 08:46:53 am
When I was into it was I was 1.3 to wood and the norm was 1 to shoot for and the best guys were at .7 

I know all about the wheelie when I got the Helsel saw.

Yeah I had just timed some of your runs to the wood and seen 1.3 too.  You will get there. Your so much better operator then I ever thought of.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 23, 2018, 02:55:31 pm
Yay some time for my own saws.
Whole reason behind buying the full wrap 415. The handle for the 505 to go with the big west coast dawgs.
Had full wrap on the 385 and got to liking it. So after I selling the 385 and 372 full wrap saws. Was looking for a handle for it.
Plus side the 415 is a runner now too. Got a guy wanting the tank from it for a 475. No problem for me as I like the 425 445 505 tanks and air filter set ups better.

Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 23, 2018, 04:00:47 pm
Looks good on there.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 23, 2018, 06:39:10 pm
I was amazed at the good condition the whole handle set up was.   8)
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 16, 2018, 08:51:59 am
Guy by the username sawfun ( honest seller and buyer ) told me he is going to sell his woods ported full wrap poulan 505 and asking price is $650 he said. New 54mm cylinder was used. Guessing PHO price but you will need to ask him about bar in pic. Port work was by chainsawjim. Just passing the info on, because it is to nice for me to own myself.

Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 16, 2018, 11:16:13 am
Yep it is too nice for you and too much money for me.    Nice looking saw for sure.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 16, 2018, 11:41:48 am
After running a velocity stack on the 3120 and seeing what it did for it. Now makes me wish I would have picked one the ones for these like on his saw in the past.
Title: Re: Poulan 505
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 17, 2018, 08:45:35 am
I was offered this but didnt buy it. 

It is in good hands now though being I know who got it.   8)

Just saving the pic being it was 1 owner with box they came in.