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Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Poulan => Topic started by: Cut4fun . on October 18, 2013, 10:17:17 am

Title: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 18, 2013, 10:17:17 am
This is going to be a slow project.    :-\

Since these were made in the husky plant and were yellow and red only  :'(.  First I thought I would like a lime green one and while on that project I thought it would be cool to have a husqvarna orange one done up.

Crankcase is split already and crank checked out good. The other split crankcase I have, the crank is no good and case had some erosion in bottom crankcase area  where water had stood in the past. Think it could be cleaned up and used if needed be.

Thinking a poulan 415 425, 445 475 505 parts, using 65cc to 83cc top with orange crankcase, recoil and clutch covers.  Black tank and cylinder cover.


(http://www.clubchopper.com/photopost/data/500/medium/PB270029.JPG)
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 18, 2013, 10:21:53 am
As received long ago

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/PP425001.jpg)


Torn down and put on back burner long ago.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/pp425475002.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/pp425475003.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: brokenbudget on October 18, 2013, 10:23:27 am
 :) poulan sportster.
83cc topend. call it the 883 sportster ;)
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: Eccentric on October 18, 2013, 02:47:03 pm
This oughta be good. 

Useless trivia:

Sears/Craftsman sold a Roper made 3.7 that they called a 'Sportsman' or something similar.  They also sold a 25DA variant that they called 'Explorer'...
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 18, 2013, 09:21:22 pm
How about Hardly 505.
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 22, 2013, 01:12:37 pm
Just so you know.   Car, truck and SUV break downs keeping me busy. Trying to get all done before snow flies.
No time to look at a project right now.


Plus right now for some reason I just dont feel like doing anything on a builder chainsaw.  Weird huh.   ???   Just not into it.  :-\
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 22, 2013, 01:20:56 pm
Snow is already flying here.    I would like to get out and do some more on my 3750 but cannot be grinding on things in the house.   

Just take your time you might get into it later.   
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2013, 11:55:07 am
Still picking up parts for this, some of the parts in pic above was used on the green jeans 505.  Picked up the NOS 475 air filter cover and another side brace between handle and tank.
 Need to lay it all out to see where I stand. Thinking I am going to be short a oiler and plastic oiler worm gear.

Will trade that NOS 475 af cover for the other style af cover on 415 425 445 505. Otherwise I will just carve on this one to use the air filter I like.
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: super44 on December 04, 2013, 01:03:39 pm
This oughta be good. 

Useless trivia:

Sears/Craftsman sold a Roper made 3.7 that they called a 'Sportsman' or something similar.  They also sold a 25DA variant that they called 'Explorer'...
 

I have one of those 3.7 Roper's.  Never heard it run.

They basically run like a Homelite Super XL Automatic (SXL-AO).  Lotsa torque.  Not a whole lotta revs.  They run a 3/8" pitch 20" b/c very well.
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 05, 2013, 04:27:15 pm
Finally took a parts count and think I am real close to having enough to make my project harley chainsaw.  Going to be a orange crankcase, clutch and recoil covers with black tank, af and cyl covers. Just because they were made in the husky plant and didnt put out a orange one.   :P
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 05, 2013, 06:30:12 pm
So how many CC's is this saw going to be?
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 05, 2013, 07:14:15 pm
I decided I really really like the quad ports top ends better then the 475 77cc  505 82.5cc top ends.  So either 415 425 65cc or 445 70.7cc
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: Al Smith on December 05, 2013, 09:49:05 pm
This oughta be good. 

Useless trivia:

Sears/Craftsman sold a Roper made 3.7 that they called a 'Sportsman' or something similar.  They also sold a 25DA variant that they called 'Explorer'...
My dad had a couple of those 3.7's .The old boy couldn't keep his fingers off them ,added too much soup and snapped a couple of crankshafts .The last one he ever did is in Louisville at my brothers.
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: Eccentric on December 05, 2013, 11:42:04 pm
This oughta be good. 

Useless trivia:

Sears/Craftsman sold a Roper made 3.7 that they called a 'Sportsman' or something similar.  They also sold a 25DA variant that they called 'Explorer'...
My dad had a couple of those 3.7's .The old boy couldn't keep his fingers off them ,added too much soup and snapped a couple of crankshafts .The last one he ever did is in Louisville at my brothers.

I have a nice one (later AV model) and a parts saw.  Just waiting on the usual fuel system rehab.  I'll get to it eventually.  I'd like to see what one of these would run like after being 'souped' up.  Hmmm.......
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: Al Smith on December 06, 2013, 06:11:30 am
Those 3.7 Roper/Craftsman had a lot of torque for 60 ccs'.They wouldn't out gun a Mac PM 610 but they weren't far behind .

You gotta remember the time period ,Mac 10-10s' Homelite XL-12s' etc .The Sears Ropers or the Mac 610's would walk away from them .Husqvarna was unheard of and Stihl hadn't gained a foot hold yet  plus they cost about twice as much.

Probabley the hottest thing going was the Lombard Comango/Al-42 but there weren't that many dealers .

The subject Poulan sold units at various places painted every color of the rainbow .I never ever saw an actual Poulan dealership in these parts . 
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2013, 11:51:12 am
When I had the parts laid out I had 2 oilers. 1 I know just barely puts oil out. The other come off the parts 505 with bad crank and top. Freaking thing is not budging.  Trying penetrating oil to see if I can get it broke loose. The gear dont even show wear, so here''s to hoping I can make it good.
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2013, 11:53:48 am
Wish I could find the  X2 like I used on the lime green one in husky orange.  So far notta. May have to use the TSC Husqvarna orange in can or Kubota orange.

Maybe maybe not.  :-\

gloss (http://www.artcove.com/fabricshop/categories/836//media/RUS_249095.jpg)

satin  (http://images.builderdepot.com/RUSTOLEUMBRANDS_BM/prodimg/1749122.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2013, 03:09:42 pm
The other come off the parts 505 with bad crank and top. Freaking thing is not budging.  Trying penetrating oil to see if I can get it broke loose. The gear dont even show wear, so here''s to hoping I can make it good.

2 days soaking and wooooooooohoooooooooo for PB blaster
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 07, 2013, 09:30:14 pm
So does that mean the PB blaster worked?

Also I like that lighter orange the top one better than the other which looks a little more red to me.
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2013, 09:39:17 pm
So does that mean the PB blaster worked?

Also I like that lighter orange the top one better than the other which looks a little more red to me.

Yes the PB worked on the oiler.

Going to look at the X2 oranges and buy and test spray first. 
I know the husky orange at TSC and kubota orange is a good orange.
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2013, 12:12:23 pm
Hmmmmm carb I have on hand my be iffy now (off the parts 505).  Looks like water may have been standing in the bottom of choke area.  Will know more when she is apart.
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2014, 05:18:11 pm
I found both the x2 paints I wanted to try.
I picked up the gloss real orange to try. Going to spray it on the metal stihl sign I took on trade that was cut on a plasma cutter first. 

Dont care if the orange  matches husky or harley orange at this point ( If I like it I'm using it). Just want it  done my way and not looking like the masses out there. 
Title: Re: Project Harley chainsaw
Post by: Cut4fun on January 19, 2014, 02:33:43 pm
I didnt realy want to paint one of my yellow clutch covers  orange or my new metal jonsered cover.  So I have been searching for a red plastic one I wouldnt mind turning orange.   

Found one fron  a jonsered 2077. So now I have  jred cover to paint orange when the rather warms up.
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 23, 2014, 07:28:15 pm
I found both the x2 paints I wanted to try.
I picked up the gloss real orange to try. Going to spray it on the metal stihl sign I took on trade that was cut on a plasma cutter first. 

Dont care if the orange  matches husky or harley orange at this point ( If I like it I'm using it). Just want it done my way and not looking like the masses out there. 

I got to test the X2 gloss real orange yesterday on the metal stihl sign.   I like it, it's  nice bright real orange.

(http://www.artcove.com/fabricshop/categories/836//media/RUS_249095.jpg)
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 23, 2014, 07:36:50 pm
I had forgotten all about this project you were working on.   
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 23, 2014, 07:54:54 pm
One of those going to be forever projects. 

I just happen to have time to kill while charging a battery on 1 of the 2 vehicles I was working on this weekend.   :'(
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on February 26, 2014, 09:32:20 am
Kevin, how does the 2x paint hold up to fuel? I know that there is a US supplier (AeroColor) that I think formulates paint for small aircraft. They will match any sample you send them and also supply a bunch of paints color matched to standard colors used on aircraft builders. I know the make paint for Husqvarna in the US. I purchased a can a while back directly from them and squirted a saw just to see how it held up. Still looks good, although I do not usually paint saws, just wanted to check our the durability.
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 26, 2014, 01:55:25 pm
Never really paid attention how the X2 paint holds up to gas. I just paint a saw for kicks to make it different for me.

I would say bare without baking in heat it might not do well.  I just paint, put together and run, nothing special here as it is a chainsaw to me.
Never noticed any problems when a little spilled on it though.

Not into matching paint or trying to make a saw pretty. So no need for that with me.
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun on February 26, 2014, 03:37:20 pm
Tim this one was painted with the X2 paint. Suppose to be poulan pro yellow. But I wanted a lime green one. Then I got some X2 in some shade of purple to do a set of cover to look like  a wildthing.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/Gregg500/PoulanGTG040_zpsb4e5d943.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/Gregg500/PoulanGTG039_zpsb862d937.jpg)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/wildthings006_zpsce0616a9.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/wildthings002_zps305ccc9f.jpg)
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on March 01, 2014, 12:05:12 pm
Kevin, is that you in the pictures? If so you are turning into an 'old fart' like the rest of us! ;D
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 01, 2014, 12:13:02 pm
That is him.      :o
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 01, 2014, 12:17:57 pm
Yep that is my ole fat azz. Only 50 Tim and still learning. 
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on March 01, 2014, 12:34:30 pm
'Old Fart' has nothing to do with age, it is being comfortable with yourself, your life choices, how you go about things, knowing what is important in life and the way you look at things in general!
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 01, 2014, 02:08:56 pm
'Old Fart' has nothing to do with age, it is being comfortable with yourself, your life choices, how you go about things, knowing what is important in life and the way you look at things in general!

Oh dont worry I am real happy with the way ole fart is.  LOL My Doc says to need to loose weight etc etc. I go well doc one problem I like to eat and try new foods. With a smile.
Then it dont help I like to drink and try new beers either. 
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 01, 2014, 02:13:21 pm
I remembered to grab some pics today after I made sure my mc waterpump replacement I did last night was good. 
Freaking envoy still at shop. That bill is going to scare me I think.  Was down to my sons car there for a few days. What a PITA.

The X2 real orange on that plasma cut out sign.  Tried with flash and without on my old cheaper camera.



Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on March 01, 2014, 03:18:17 pm
WOW that stuff works great, I will try some.
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 01, 2014, 04:31:10 pm
That was 1 coat.

Before.

http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=49.0;attach=5137;image



After.

http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2390.0;attach=6050;image
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 04, 2014, 08:27:26 pm
I cant bring myself to paint the PP425 crankcase orange. Thinking about using the PP505 #3 crankcase that had white death corrosion in the crank lower area.

Cant remember what was said about neutralizing this for clean up. Anyone with info?

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/h1255053003_zpsc89c263c.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/h1255053001_zpsb9977937.jpg)
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: 3000 FPS on August 04, 2014, 11:37:07 pm
I would clean up all the white powder from the corrosion that has taken place and then sand blast those areas to get down to good metal and then paint it to prevent future corrosion from occurring.  If no oxygen, or water can get to the surface of the magnesium then I do not think it will corrode any further.   JMHO.
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 13, 2015, 01:57:52 pm
Well I came up with a decal idea for this project. 
I really like the Poulan Predator 335 decal.   All I can find is the newer poulan predator decals to look at on clutch and recoil side.  I have a 335 recoil decal pic of Rogers saw too.

I know the predators were red. But since these saws already come in red and I want something different.  I think I am going to go with the bright orange with predator decals.   

Found below pic on ebay.


Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 13, 2015, 02:04:54 pm
Poulan Predator  335 decal    Rogers saw   :'(

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2922.0;attach=12205;image)

Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 13, 2015, 02:24:48 pm
I have a new NOS topend in route for this project too.   Slowly but surely things will come together in time. I aint in no hurry thats for sure.
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 13, 2015, 08:07:42 pm
Sounds pretty cool.
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 05, 2015, 07:44:04 pm
Painted the jonsered 2077 clutch cover and recoil today.   

Also working on the Predator decals and couldnt get what I wanted using the 335 sticker.  So will try again later on that.

Roger what color is the  Predator letters on yours?

Before and after pics loading.

Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 05, 2015, 07:48:56 pm
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Projects/j2095orange%20014_zpszjlzgn79.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Projects/j2095orange%20014_zpszjlzgn79.jpg.html)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Projects/j2095orange%20018_zps32tvna7s.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Projects/j2095orange%20018_zps32tvna7s.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 07, 2015, 02:36:38 pm
Had to start over and find another pic I could use. I went with this clutch cover and cropped and touched up to get a rough in for recoil decal.

Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: jmester on July 07, 2015, 03:34:14 pm
That is going to look great.
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 07, 2015, 09:19:54 pm
I like the blow up of the predator with the fangs.   That will look good.
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: countryhog on July 08, 2015, 10:51:41 am
I like. thinking about "outofthebox" colors for some of my future rebuilds.

regarding the craftsman/roper 3.7. I really like mine. only problem is the fuel tank seems to be small and the carb only has one fuel adjustment. other than that? great saw. recently rebuilt one and gave to my SIL where it just sits. he primarily uses the oly 251S which I gave him or the homie sxlao he paid for.  its hard starting cause I twiddled with the carb some to give it a little more umph. guess he likes saws that start easy. may have to retrieve it.
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: 67L36Driver on July 09, 2015, 06:42:18 am
Depending on what I have in rattle cans sitting around, I like to paint them to please myself.  Especially a 'keeper'.
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: jmester on July 09, 2015, 06:57:29 am
Nice sharp looking saw
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: countryhog on July 09, 2015, 08:57:55 am
what is that carl? a C-??
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: 67L36Driver on July 09, 2015, 10:54:41 am

what is that carl? a C-??

XP-1000.  Yup  'C' type.

You could have run it at Chelsea GTG.  Ask Coby or Kenneth how they liked him.

We did chip some paint offen him.  LOL
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 09, 2015, 12:49:11 pm
I like the blow up of the predator with the fangs.   That will look good.

The flash in the pic got me and didnt catch it till I used my last sheet of paper for recoil sticker.  Have to try again.
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 09, 2015, 12:51:33 pm
Depending on what I have in rattle cans sitting around, I like to paint them to please myself.  Especially a 'keeper'.


Bingo. I wanted the last 2 to be different then yellow or red.  Felt there should have been a lime green one and a orange one.  So I did the lime and working on the bright orange still.
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: 67L36Driver on July 09, 2015, 01:01:43 pm
A handsome industrial paint scheme is the Union Pacific locomotives.  Armour yellow & harbor mist gray separated by a dark red band.

Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: countryhog on July 10, 2015, 10:26:32 am
what kind of paper you use to make those stickers? I've used regular paper, color printer, glued em on, and clear coated the heck out of them. it worked but still not happey with it. gotta be a better way
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: countryhog on July 10, 2015, 10:28:02 am
carl, that is most definitely a handsome saw. gonna have to do something similar. maybe on my poulan 361 when I get it ironed out
Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 10, 2015, 12:30:56 pm
what kind of paper you use to make those stickers? I've used regular paper, color printer, glued em on, and clear coated the heck out of them. it worked but still not happey with it. gotta be a better way

I'm using waterproof sticker paper ( if I recall right).

Others I have made for lime green 505 project and wild thing covers for it too.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/purplewtrecoil002_zps49dd1be5.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/barcoverdecals003_zpsc6ed2ca7.jpg)
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1720.0;attach=13004;image)
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1720.0;attach=13007;image)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/purple001_zps97e04315.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Partner550/445pp003_zpsc8b4ab9f.jpg)





Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 13, 2015, 03:46:48 pm
Going for a little different look for the predator clutch cover decal.

Also saving another failed recoil decal.  :-\ :-X :P  Working on getting that flash out.

Title: Re: Project orange poulan
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 13, 2015, 04:22:37 pm
Still not the way I want them, but settling for this for time being.