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Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Jonsered => Topic started by: Cut4fun . on April 23, 2011, 09:07:35 pm

Title: Jonsered 111
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 23, 2011, 09:07:35 pm
Is there any difference in the Jonsered 111 and Jonsered 111S top end kits?  I know where there is some new OEM cylinder and piston kits and want to know if there was anything different between the 111 and 111S.
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: Bill G on April 29, 2011, 01:38:12 am
Well this is the first post I have made here andI have no idea how to post pics.  I took a look at some of my 111 and 111S saws and I can see no real difference in the jugs.  As we all know Jred could not settle on the number of rings to use so they came with one or two rings but the pistons still have two grooves.  The top covers are different between the 111 and the 111S.  I talked with a fine gentleman last night that said he thought the 111 had teh decomp out the side which does make perfect sense as I have one that is drilled for it but still has teh decomp out the top.  When I figure out the picture deal I will post some comparison shots.

Bill
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 29, 2011, 06:41:44 am
Welcome Bil and Thanks for sharing info on 111.

If you have a outside host for pics like photobucket it is free and easy or you can use the space here but the pics have to be downsized to under 100kb to do so.

If still having troubles you can email them to me and I will post them for you.

Thanks,
Kevin aka Cut4fun

Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: Bill G on April 30, 2011, 02:47:57 am
Here is my first attempt at posting a pic.  This shows the difference in the top covers between the 111 and 111S
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: Bill G on April 30, 2011, 03:01:54 am
Here is a comparison of the decomp valves and the three different mufflers.
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: SawTroll on April 30, 2011, 04:13:44 pm
Here is my first attempt at posting a pic.  This shows the difference in the top covers between the 111 and 111S

Are you sure that difference always was present?  ???
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: Bill G on May 01, 2011, 02:16:05 am
Here is my first attempt at posting a pic.  This shows the difference in the top covers between the 111 and 111S

Are you sure that difference always was present?  ???

Only based on the ones I have owned.  If you have more knowledge then please chime in
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 29, 2013, 11:33:21 am
Friends Jonsered 111
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: Eccentric on November 28, 2013, 04:49:42 am
That's a cherry 111.  Is it original, or has it been restored?
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 28, 2013, 12:22:54 pm
That's a cherry 111.  Is it original, or has it been restored?

I will ask when I talk with him next time.  If I remember.
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: Eccentric on November 28, 2013, 01:58:02 pm
That's a cherry 111.  Is it original, or has it been restored?

I will ask when I talk with him next time.  If I remember.

Sadly, I can totally identify with that Kevin.  Happy Thanksgiving my friend.
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: SawTroll on November 28, 2013, 08:47:02 pm
Here is my first attempt at posting a pic.  This shows the difference in the top covers between the 111 and 111S

Are you sure that difference always was present?  ???

Only based on the ones I have owned.  If you have more knowledge then please chime in

Just belgians pics here (http://www.chainsawcollectors.se/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=2397).
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: 660magnum on November 28, 2013, 11:20:45 pm
Troll, thanks for posting that nice link to the 111/(S) reference pictures
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 29, 2013, 09:59:57 am
That's a cherry 111.  Is it original, or has it been restored?

I will ask when I talk with him next time.  If I remember.

Sadly, I can totally identify with that Kevin.  Happy Thanksgiving my friend.

Per him =  The rewind is a dead give away. It says Jonsered. It should say Jonsereds. Its been restored. Although I do have a real nice 111s that is original.
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2014, 08:27:08 pm
Steve any info you can share on these after your 111 rebuild?

http://youtu.be/6mY0EMlwHH8
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: Snoopy on January 31, 2014, 10:08:32 pm
Took 2 111 johnny and made one. Took a while to find all the stuff I needed. The hardest thing to find was the decomp. It has a oem 111 piston and cylinder. Done some porting on it but did not get too crazy with it.  The piston is the weak link imo with this saw. Its runs great and the owner is very happy with it ;D Still have a few 111 parts left over but spoken for ;)
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: dynodave on March 24, 2014, 03:20:23 pm
Anyone have a 111S gas tank they can spare?
If I can't fix this saw with a broken tank, the owner will turn it into a go-cart engine >:(
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: Eccentric on March 24, 2014, 03:22:09 pm
Anyone have a 111S gas tank they can spare?
If I can't fix this saw with a broken tank, the owner will turn it into a go-cart engine >:(

That would be a sin...
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: SawTroll on April 16, 2014, 08:45:15 am
Anyone have a 111S gas tank they can spare?
If I can't fix this saw with a broken tank, the owner will turn it into a go-cart engine >:(

That would be a sin...

It surely would!  >:(
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: Peter Davies on August 28, 2014, 11:35:47 am
whilst you guys are chatting about the 111/111s, I'll join in by asking what do you set the ignition timing at? There was some discussion about this 18 months ago. I got a factory spec that said 3.8mm before TDC. Fine, but where do you measure the 3.8mm. What do you people do who obviously run 111's; set it in degrees ?
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: mdavlee . on August 28, 2014, 02:04:08 pm
You may have to measure the circumference of the flywheel and divide by 360 to get the 3.8mm in degrees.
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: Peter Davies on August 29, 2014, 08:07:17 am
That's the problem; there are several "perimeters" where one could measure the distance!
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: mdavlee . on August 29, 2014, 10:28:06 am
Just pick one and go with it
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: Peter Davies on August 30, 2014, 11:17:45 am
attached is photo of fly wheel. I think the right hand mark is TDC; what are the other two? They are much further than 3.8mm. Do you measure 3.8 at the perimeter, or on the circumference where these marks lie?
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: mdavlee . on August 30, 2014, 02:37:20 pm
I would measure all the way around and see where that puts you. It's hard to say how they set it up.
Title: Re: Jonsered 111
Post by: 660magnum on August 30, 2014, 10:16:02 pm
attached is photo of fly wheel. I think the right hand mark is TDC; what are the other two? They are much further than 3.8mm. Do you measure 3.8 at the perimeter, or on the circumference where these marks lie?

Those holes are where the balanced the flywheel