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Title: Husqvarna 365 OE
Post by: alsled on November 13, 2013, 02:22:31 pm
What's the difference between the two?  Are ignition and carbs the same ?  I want to put a52 mm big bore on one.
Title: Re: 365 vs 365 special?
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 13, 2013, 02:28:13 pm
365's came in open port /  closed port . I have seen walbro and zama carbs used.  The walbro is preferred, but I used what I had on hand, zama's on stock and ported and you wouldnt have known it unless I told ya.    Blue coils limited to 13.5K, black coils unlimited.

You can put 362 365 372 50mm , 372 51.4mm,  plus 52mm BB afm on them.
Title: Re: 365 vs 365 special?
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 13, 2013, 02:40:18 pm
Threads with pics

closed port 365 etc http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/jonsered/jonsered-2065/msg7116/#msg7116

more reads http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/husqvarna/husqvarna-372xp/msg10534/#msg10534

open

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closed

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3.0;attach=1353;image)
Title: Re: 365 vs 365 special?
Post by: alsled on November 13, 2013, 02:53:24 pm
Was there a issue with 365 and a week case by the bar?  If so what years were effected and was it a major issue.
Title: Re: 365 vs 365 special?
Post by: 660magnum on November 13, 2013, 04:27:30 pm
The open port 365 had a bolt-on intake boot. The was a bolt on flange plate that retained the boot.

The "so called" weaker crankcase by the bar mount involved a couple webs inside the oil tank that were later added to 372's

Unless you are jerking on a saw with a hung up bar, I doubt it would make any difference.
Title: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 29, 2015, 01:55:23 pm
Had one of what I believe may be a older 365. The recoil decal just had 365 on bottom part.
Guy said he bought it new.

Dont have to pull cyl but maybe there is other tells that might tell me open port by the transfers. 

http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/husqvarna/365-vs-365-special/msg27350/#msg27350

Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: wisecobandit on March 29, 2015, 04:49:32 pm
Plain 365's had zama carb, non adjustable oil pump and front chain tensioner
365 special had walbro carb adjustable oil pump and side mount tensioner in the cover.
 Early plain 365's also had an oval inlet manifold/port and later changed to round before the 365 special came along.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: 660magnum on March 29, 2015, 04:56:11 pm
I have four 365's but they are all "Specials" and little different from a 372XP

One of them has a Zama carburetor but who knows why it is on a 15 year old saw?

I've run Zamas on 362,365, & 372XP's and cannot tell any difference in the way the same saw runs with a Walbro. The Walbro has a bigger venturi.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: wisecobandit on March 29, 2015, 05:10:51 pm
The only difference between the special and 372 is the cylinder/piston. 48mm v 50mm

A special wouldn't have had a zama from the factory unless its an early one maybe and maybe they wanted to use a few up maybe tho ive never seen one.
The walbro is meant to be slightly better and appears to be the case.

Ive heard some people upgrading to 372/big bore and the zama struggles slightly whereas walbros seem easier to tune and 4 stroke easier.
Ive had similar on 357xps with the zamas they don't always appear to overfuel well and allow a 4 stroke compared to walbros even thp they where opposite and started with walbros first then went to zamas.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: wisecobandit on March 29, 2015, 05:13:12 pm
What year is the 365 with the zama out of interest? If its 15 years old it prob isn't a special as thy didn't arrive until 2002 I believe
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Cut4fun on March 29, 2015, 05:25:43 pm
This one was bought new by owner. Nothing has been changed.  1999 with zama carb, front tensioner, round intake with clamp like I am used to.

Pics loading.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Cut4fun on March 29, 2015, 05:34:59 pm
By those bulges on transfers to me says closed quads.


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Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Cut4fun on March 29, 2015, 05:35:54 pm
I had to clean intake to show the metal clamp. It was caked on.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: 660magnum on March 29, 2015, 05:45:33 pm
I remember reading a few discussions about the straight original 365 and the 365 Special transitional period some years ago. The discussion didn't go any different than this one.

The change over was not a clear one shot bang. There was a gradual some of this and some of that transition into the Special. In fact the Special name came about at two different times with a regular 365 label in between with parts of a special on the inside.  My 365 Special with the Zama carburetor is a 1999 model.

My idea of a true Special is not any different than the ones I have that are labeled "Special" but in the 1999/2000 years there were variations?

Troll will be along tonight and straighten us all out as to the true Husqvarna 365 gospel as troll sees it?
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Eccentric on March 30, 2015, 12:46:16 am
Last year at the PNW GTG, a fine Canadian fellow showed me a Jonsered variant from this series (can't remember the model #).  It had a weird closed port jug (48mm IIRC) that had two of the four transfer channels (one on each side) blank.  Cast solid.  Obviously meant to be a lower performance/price point model (like a 45mm 350 vs a 353).

He swapped a 371/372XP p/c onto it while we were there.  I greatly regret not taking pics of the original jug, making note of the casting #, or even making note of the J-Red model #.  I need to email him with some questions.......
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: 660magnum on March 30, 2015, 01:19:38 am
Sounds like a take-off on a Husqvarna 362 That has an Italian Gilardoni Cylinder?

I have one. It runs pretty good. Kevin collected the parts and put it together. They were brought out as a fuel economy chainsaw. They would run a long time on a tank of mix.

The early 362XP had a K295 mount and a front adjuster.  The very last ones made as Husqvarna's were labeled as 362XP Special's (?) and had a D009 mount and a side adjuster just like a 372XP
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Eccentric on March 30, 2015, 02:22:46 am
I'm thinking it was a 2063.  That's the number that's sticking in my head anyways.  I'll ask him.  Can't remember if it had the small or large bar mount.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: 660magnum on March 30, 2015, 04:20:35 am
The 362 had a 47mm bore

Jonsered 2063

(http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/e7ccac13fd67484688256d62002146cb/Images/0.9F02?OpenElement&FieldElemFormat=jpg)

http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/e7ccac13fd67484688256d62002146cb?OpenDocument

Husqvarna 362

http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/45c67d506a9c7fcb88257c970020a001?OpenDocument
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: wisecobandit on March 30, 2015, 01:53:08 pm
Yeah the gil 362 cylinder was the only 1 to have a blank transfer port on 1 side.

660 magnum the saw you have posted up is just the plain 365 not the special (well not here in the uk anyway) The word "special" would be on the side starter recoil and on the i.d tag.

The plain 365's came with closed and open ports and seemed quite random. Its mainly the late ones so possibly a bit of a crossbreed before going over to the special??
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Eccentric on March 30, 2015, 02:00:16 pm
I just learned that the Jonsered in question is a 2163.  The owner is bigbadbob on AS.  The saw is listed in his sigline as a "JRed 2163 now a 2171".

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/members/bigbadbob.12433/
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: 660magnum on March 30, 2015, 02:54:44 pm
I was reading around last night and apparently being open or closed port or bolt-on or clamp-on carb boot had little to do with the "Special" designation.

Some changes like the Zama or Walbro had more to do with market area and time line.

The "Special" is proclaimed to have the side chain adjuster?

This reminds on of the differences between a 371XP and a 372XP.

Kevin's straight 365 has a cylinder with a top fin like on a 371XP and the chain adjuster is on the front like a 371XP.

My 371XP is a 1998 version. It is a 372 but has the different top fin shape and the adjuster is on the front. It runs just as good as my 372's.

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4337.0;attach=12410;image)
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Eccentric on March 30, 2015, 03:07:24 pm
I actually prefer the front access adjuster on the 371XP over the side access on the 372XP.  That's because I really dislike tensioners that are in the clutch cover.  I greatly prefer to have the adjuster in the case, even if it means having to mess with a less convenient front access adjuster screw.  That's one area where Stihl has a better design on the modern saws.  Their side access setups are in the case, with only a hole in the side of the cover for access to the screw.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 30, 2015, 05:30:18 pm
365 was easy fix. fuel line, fuel filter, sparkplug, carb tune, new rim.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: aclarke on March 30, 2015, 07:01:06 pm
That's interesting about the quad transfer having 2 blocked!
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 30, 2015, 08:06:00 pm
That's interesting about the quad transfer having 2 blocked!

On the 362 2163 2063.  I will try and dig up the pics posted here somewhere. 

Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 30, 2015, 08:10:26 pm
That's interesting about the quad transfer having 2 blocked!

On the 362 2163 2063.  I will try and dig up the pics posted here somewhere. 





(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3463.0;attach=12756;image)
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3463.0;attach=12757;image)
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3463.0;attach=12758;image)

Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: 660magnum on March 30, 2015, 08:36:58 pm
A 362 runs pretty good. You'd never think that the transfers are like that from running one.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: wisecobandit on April 01, 2015, 10:56:19 am
The 362 is underrated I agree but unfortunatly many where/have been upgraded with larger cylinders and initially not a big seller due to it being the lowest cc model in the range.
The early ones where small mount bars ( 357xp etc) which they made for a few years then stopped, they then remade a few around 2005/2006 with large mount bars (same as 365/372) , Not sure if there reasoning but maybe was to use up what crankcases they had before the x-torque saws came in or just due to demand.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: aclarke on April 01, 2015, 05:00:53 pm
Thanks for the pics Kev!  Interesting. Even the 372 with the quad port has a lot of meat left in the transfer walls. I've machined a third transfer on each side of the 372 for stock appearing racesaw applications.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: aclarke on April 01, 2015, 05:16:17 pm
Other end of the spectrum...


[img http://(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/Aclarke123/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0339_zps95ecd61a.jpg) (http://s1184.photobucket.com/user/Aclarke123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0339_zps95ecd61a.jpg.html)/img]
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: aclarke on April 01, 2015, 05:18:20 pm
[img http://(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/Aclarke123/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0334_zpse707f1cd.jpg) (http://s1184.photobucket.com/user/Aclarke123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0334_zpse707f1cd.jpg.html)/img]
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 01, 2015, 07:43:39 pm
Other end of the spectrum...

That is slick. 
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: mdavlee . on April 02, 2015, 05:17:35 am
6 transfer 372 cylinder Is cool.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: aclarke on April 02, 2015, 11:08:39 am
Be interesting to try on a work saw with jug dropped a tad
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: SawTroll on April 02, 2015, 11:53:36 am
Plain 365's had zama carb, non adjustable oil pump and front chain tensioner
365 special had walbro carb adjustable oil pump and side mount tensioner in the cover.
 Early plain 365's also had an oval inlet manifold/port and later changed to round before the 365 special came along.

I believe the only feature that really depends on it being a Special or not is the location of chain tensioner.

Other variables (top ends, intakes and carbs mainly) have more to do with different versions for different markets, EPA vs. non-EPA, and simply the time-line. There were lots of different combinations of features.

This is the first time I heard about non-adjustable oilers on the 365, and I'm having a hard time believing they existed....
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: SawTroll on April 02, 2015, 12:02:34 pm
The 362 is underrated I agree but unfortunatly many where/have been upgraded with larger cylinders and initially not a big seller due to it being the lowest cc model in the range.
The early ones where small mount bars ( 357xp etc) which they made for a few years then stopped, they then remade a few around 2005/2006 with large mount bars (same as 365/372) , Not sure if there reasoning but maybe was to use up what crankcases they had before the x-torque saws came in or just due to demand.

I believe the large mount 362s made around 2005 were on the 372 case, that was a little heavier than the original 362 case?
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 02, 2015, 12:03:57 pm
This plain 365 has zama and front tensioner made in 99. Will look but betting adjustable oiler. 

I never heard of non adjustable on this series.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: 660magnum on April 02, 2015, 12:08:47 pm
I've never seen a non adjustable oiler for this series. Another is that I've never seen one with a full time oiler either.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: aclarke on April 02, 2015, 01:39:36 pm
Was the 362 on a dedicated case at some point, then used the 372 case?
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 02, 2015, 02:12:05 pm
Was the 362 on a dedicated case at some point, then used the 372 case?

When first came out it was small mount.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 02, 2015, 02:15:15 pm
Adam. I didnt take pics of the bare crankcase halves.

small mount 362xp case

Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: SawTroll on April 02, 2015, 02:46:59 pm
Was the 362 on a dedicated case at some point, then used the 372 case?
That is my understanding, and the original 371 case was different from both.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: aclarke on April 02, 2015, 03:37:44 pm
Interesting. Thank u
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: 660magnum on April 02, 2015, 03:52:01 pm
I have a 1998 371XP and also a early 362 as well as four 365 specials of different ages including one of the last ones.

Like has been mentioned, the 362 is small bar mount and both the 362 and 371 have a front chain adjuster.

But like has also already been said, most all 372 parts will interchange.

There's a difference in the crankcase webbing inside the oil tank around the bar mount area but this is more of a age thing.

And they are all good running chainsaws.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: SawTroll on April 02, 2015, 05:09:37 pm
As I understand it, the 372 case was beefed up in the bar mount area and maybe elsewhere as well, compared to the 371 case (weight specs went up by .5 lbs). I don't believe the same happened to the 362 case - at least I haven't seen any indications that it did (but it was inbetween in weight).

Early weight specs were: 371 12.9 lbs, 362 13.2 lbs, 372 13.4 lbs (originally 5.9, 6.0 and 6.1 kg) - according to my memory. This was of couse for the low top versions of them all.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Spike60 on April 06, 2015, 01:36:49 pm
The "special" decals are no help when sorting out which cylinder was used on the 365. That was just a marketing term that came and went on several models, but does not necessarily denote changes with whatever model.

The open port 365/2065 jug was only used the first year or so here in the US. First year IPL's are the only ones which only list the open port cylinder.

The closed port 372 style cylinder was listed in IPL's as the "EPA" cylinder. Much confusion arises from the fact that the open port cylinder was still used on saws in other markets well after we received the closed port style. IPL's for many years listed the part numbers for both cylinders. Part numbers with "691" as the middle 3 digits are the open port jug. Part numbers with "939" in the middle are the closed port cylinders. Only the closed port cylinder, #503939005 is currently available.

There are no service bulletins that list a serial number brake for when the change to the closed port jug took place. Again, I think continued use of the open port piece in other markets is likely the reason for this. But it's safe to conclude only the 1996 and some 1997 365/2065's arrived here with the open port top ends. There is a service bulletin that lists the change to the Walbro carb as taking place in week 26 of 2000.

Personal opinion: The 48mm closed port cylinder is very underrated. Guys who pull a perfectly good 48mm closed port cylinder off a 365/2165 in favor of the 50mm unit are wasting a very good cylinder! Those saws can easily be made to out cut stock 372's with just a little "lovin". If it's toast, then replace it with the larger cylinder. But if it's in good shape, it's not worth the expense of a new cylinder for the small gain in power.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 06, 2015, 01:42:35 pm
The "special" decals are no help when sorting out which cylinder was used on the 365. That was just a marketing term that came and went on several models, but does not necessarily denote changes with whatever model.

The open port 365/2065 jug was only used the first year or so here in the US. First year IPL's are the only ones which list only list the open port cylinder.

The closed port 372 style cylinder was listed in IPL's as the "EPA" cylinder. Much confusion arises from the fact that the open port cylinder was still used on saws in other markets well after we received the closed port style. IPL's for many years listed the part numbers for both cylinders. Part numbers with "691" as the middle 3 digits are the open port jug. Part numbers with "939" in the middle are the closed port cylinders. Only the closed port cylinder, #503939005 is currently available.

There are no service bulletins that list a serial number brake for when the change to the closed port jug took place. Again, I think continued use of the open port piece in other markets is likely the reason for this. But it's safe to conclude only the 1996 and some 1997 365/2065's arrived here with the open port top ends. There is a service bulletin that lists the change to the Walbro carb as taking place in week 26 of 2000.

Personal opinion: The 48mm closed port cylinder is very underrated. Guys who pull a perfectly good 48mm closed port cylinder off a 365/2165 in favor of the 50mm unit are wasting a very good cylinder! Those saws can easily be made to out cut stock 372's with just a little "lovin". If it's toast, then replace it with the larger cylinder. But if it's in good shape, it's not worth the expense of a new cylinder for the small gain in power.

Great info and Thanks for sharing all of that info here.     8) 8) 8) 8)

That answers alot of our questions in this and other threads on these.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Eccentric on April 06, 2015, 02:34:33 pm
The "special" decals are no help when sorting out which cylinder was used on the 365. That was just a marketing term that came and went on several models, but does not necessarily denote changes with whatever model.

The open port 365/2065 jug was only used the first year or so here in the US. First year IPL's are the only ones which list only list the open port cylinder.

The closed port 372 style cylinder was listed in IPL's as the "EPA" cylinder. Much confusion arises from the fact that the open port cylinder was still used on saws in other markets well after we received the closed port style. IPL's for many years listed the part numbers for both cylinders. Part numbers with "691" as the middle 3 digits are the open port jug. Part numbers with "939" in the middle are the closed port cylinders. Only the closed port cylinder, #503939005 is currently available.

There are no service bulletins that list a serial number brake for when the change to the closed port jug took place. Again, I think continued use of the open port piece in other markets is likely the reason for this. But it's safe to conclude only the 1996 and some 1997 365/2065's arrived here with the open port top ends. There is a service bulletin that lists the change to the Walbro carb as taking place in week 26 of 2000.

Personal opinion: The 48mm closed port cylinder is very underrated. Guys who pull a perfectly good 48mm closed port cylinder off a 365/2165 in favor of the 50mm unit are wasting a very good cylinder! Those saws can easily be made to out cut stock 372's with just a little "lovin". If it's toast, then replace it with the larger cylinder. But if it's in good shape, it's not worth the expense of a new cylinder for the small gain in power.

Thanks for all that Bob.  I also agree with the last paragraph.  Same applies with guys that'll ditch a perfectly good 50mm closed port p/c on a 266XP or 268XP in favor of a 52mm 272XP top end (especially an AM 52mm top end).  Silly.  I have a friend who does this.  I've told him he has a permanent buyer for any good 266/268XP take off top ends here.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 06, 2015, 04:44:23 pm
Yep love the 48mm closed port cylinders.

Also just checked the 1999 plain 365 and like we thought it does have adjustable oiler.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: 660magnum on April 06, 2015, 04:58:04 pm
I use my 365's along with my 372's.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Spike60 on April 06, 2015, 11:59:48 pm

Thanks for all that Bob.  I also agree with the last paragraph.  Same applies with guys that'll ditch a perfectly good 50mm closed port p/c on a 266XP or 268XP in favor of a 52mm 272XP top end (especially an AM 52mm top end).  Silly.  I have a friend who does this.  I've told him he has a permanent buyer for any good 266/268XP take off top ends here.

Those guys are nuts. You can't even get OEM 266 or 268XP top ends anymore. I understand that there's a certain "big bore" mentality that exists here in the saw world. "no replacement for displacement" and all that. But the difference is mostly a stop watch deal. Timed cuts and work cuts are 2 different things. The gain is not worth dumping an original cylinder in good shape. Especially with the aftermarket kits as you point out. I'll take a 50mm OEM jug over a 52mm aftermarket kit every time.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: mdavlee . on April 07, 2015, 06:08:45 pm

Be interesting to try on a work saw with jug dropped a tad
Was that the Xpw jug or 50mm?
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Eccentric on April 07, 2015, 09:07:01 pm
Is the 51m XPW jug the same cylinder as the 375K jug, or are they different castings?
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: mdavlee . on April 08, 2015, 07:06:52 am
Is the 51m XPW jug the same cylinder as the 375K jug, or are they different castings?
Pretty sure it's the same casting.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: SawTroll on April 08, 2015, 10:39:29 am
Is the 51m XPW jug the same cylinder as the 375K jug, or are they different castings?
Pretty sure it's the same casting.
So am I, and the 51.4mm jugs have much narrower transfers.

I don't think the main point with using them on the XPW saws about 2006 to 2009 was increased power - it likely had more to do with EPA and/or the "big bore" mentality among costumers?

The CP 48mm jugs also have much narrower transfers than the 50mm ones.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: aclarke on April 08, 2015, 03:57:45 pm
Mike, it's an xpw cylinder on the racesaw.

Adam
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: mdavlee . on April 08, 2015, 05:00:57 pm
I may have to try it on one next time.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: adam32 on April 08, 2015, 05:03:45 pm
Other end of the spectrum...


[img http://(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/Aclarke123/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0339_zps95ecd61a.jpg) (http://s1184.photobucket.com/user/Aclarke123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0339_zps95ecd61a.jpg.html)/img]

That jug looks pretty familiar :)
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: aclarke on April 08, 2015, 05:27:13 pm
May be yours! Pretty sure you have the bigger cylinder? Built another 50mm
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: adam32 on April 08, 2015, 05:41:07 pm
May be yours! Pretty sure you have the bigger cylinder? Built another 50mm

Yeah 52mm
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365
Post by: Eccentric on April 08, 2015, 08:40:28 pm
Thanks for the info gentlemen.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 365 open port closed port update
Post by: Cut4fun on June 27, 2023, 10:47:27 am
Just going to save this all here too. Husqvarna 365 special open port 2001.

Turns out like I had read they were doing them overseas.  Guys pics from UK.

This is what we see in US so threw us off. =  Just going to copy and paste info straight from other thread I posted in. - Ya there was both 96-97. But I only know of the very early years one. Being a 2001 saw you are showing and special at that. Not one of the early plain 365 decal ones. I never seen a open on a special or on a late run saw from factory.

Now I have read that Aussie might have got some later open port ones across the big pond. No clue on that.

This info is straight from Bob in a old thread we had on this many years ago. He is a retired dealer for husky jred 40+ years. = The open port 365/2065 jug was only used the first year or so here in the US. First year IPL's are the only ones which only list the open port cylinder.
There are no service bulletins that list a serial number brake for when the change to the closed port jug took place. Again, I think continued use of the open port piece in other markets is likely the reason for this. But it's safe to conclude only the 1996 and some 1997 365/2065's arrived here with the open port top ends.

Looking into OP location he could be in Wales. Sure would have helped if OP would have stated he lives in UK and picked saw up from UK or not. Most of us are going by US info.

Just like MS361 still being sold across the pond in open ports too.

Evan from Canada -  For the North American market, the closed port cylinder actually appeared prior to the Special designation, however, the open port cylinder continued on for non EPA markets. I know from talking from a few guys down under that a special with an open port jug is definitely a thing.
The 05 IPL shows the closed port jug as EPA/EU, earlier is EPA only. 07 still shows the same, I can't find 08 or 09, but 2010 shows everything being closed port.
Note the 372 style clamp being designated EPA on this 02 IPL.
The open port jug and intake hardware is on the IPL until at least 07, with the closed port jug initially denoted EPA, and then EPA/EU on the 05 and 07. I haven't found 08 or 09 IPL'S, but the 2010 one shows only the closed port, denoted EPA/EU/RU. The attached picture is from the 07/03 IPL. 503 69 10-73 is the open port jug.
The closed port EPA cylinder doesn't show up on the IPL's until the 1999-04 document, but it was likely in production a while before that came out. The only open port 365's I have been into here in the great white north have been 1996 and 1997's, but I don't recall ever having a 1998 saw apart. Everything 99+ has been closed port.