Chainsaw Repair
Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Poulan => Topic started by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2013, 12:42:11 pm
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OhioGregg has some nice info saved. Just saving this ad pic of the craftsman chainsaws.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/Gregg500/SAVE1558_zps6d770f77.jpg)
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I remember those ads. IIRC, Mitch W has a scan of an old B/W Sears ad showing the Craftsman branded Micros, XXV series, 3.4/3.7 saws, and the big 4.2/5.2 CounterVibes. Hopefully he'll see this thread and post up.
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I wonder how many people actually paid extra for the Power Sharp before it became common knowledge that it wasn't what it was **** up to be???
Mike
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I wonder how many people actually paid extra for the Power Sharp before it became common knowledge that it wasn't what it was **** up to be???
Mike
Seems to vary widely based on the saw model.
I've only see about 3-4 PS equipped Craftsman 3.7 branded Poulan 3700/3800's.......................including those I've seen listed on ebay. That's compared to the many dozens of non-PS versions. Never seen a PS equipped saw from that series in person.
Seen many many PS equipped XXV series saws (especially the older blue and yellow Sears versions). Probably about 1/2 as many PS saws as non-PS. Much higher percentage for this series for some reason. Only one of my XXV series saws has it (a Craftsman red 2.3PS/VL branded S25-CVA PS). Will probably paint a spare non-PS CVA cover red to run on it.
Then there's the Roper 3.7ci saws. Probably seen 3 PS versions for every one non-PS version (especially the older models). Mine is non-PS.
I've never seen a PS equipped 245SA/306SA in person. Seen several on line.
My Dad's Mac PM320 (that he bought new in 1980 or so) has PS. Worked OK as a brush/pruning saw setup. Convenient. If I ever get around to tackling the fuel lines and rebuild the carb on that saw (for sentimental reasons) I'll probably remove the stone and put a regular 3/8-LP loop of chain on it.
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Check out those prices! They are cheaper now, of course I think those above are built a bit better then the new stuff.
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Check out those prices! They are cheaper now, of course I think those above are built a bit better then the new stuff.
You're absolutely right. Modern saws (especially the consumer models) are much cheaper to produce than the older saws. Heck, most older saws intended for the consumer market had design characteristics that we only associate with pro saws today.
The chainsaws of the '40s and '50s were EXTREMELY expensive for the time period. For example; a 1957 McCulloch 77 (120cc gear drive BIG timber saw) cost something like $499 (powerhead only). That's over $4000 in today's dollars! Look at ads for the monster 1940's Mercury and IEL chainsaws. Some of those were something like $600-$800 back in the late 1940's. That's around $5600-$7500 today!
http://www.calculator.net/inflation-calculator.html
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Check out those prices! They are cheaper now, of course I think those above are built a bit better then the new stuff.
You're absolutely right. Modern saws (especially the consumer models) are much cheaper to produce than the older saws. Heck, most older saws intended for the consumer market had design characteristics that we only associate with pro saws today.
The chainsaws of the '40s and '50s were EXTREMELY expensive for the time period. For example; a 1957 McCulloch 77 (120cc gear drive BIG timber saw) cost something like $499 (powerhead only). That's over $4000 in today's dollars! Look at ads for the monster 1940's Mercury and IEL chainsaws. Some of those were something like $600-$800 back in the late 1940's. That's around $5600-$7500 today!
http://www.calculator.net/inflation-calculator.html
People laugh at me when I tell them that things are cheaper today than they have ever been.
Watch closely at the old movies. It is common knowledge that the cowboy pay rate was a dollar a day, a bunk and 3 meals.
Then they would go into a saloon and spend a dollar........a days wage........on one shot of questionable quality whiskey.
I've seen the menus from old restaurants where a good steak dinner was 25 cents, and a beer to wash it down was 25 cents. Imagine paying $50.00 today for a steak and a beer!
I've told this story many times, if you've heard it just forget it and that way it will be new to you again. My Dad left the "country" in 1955 making $1.50 a day for a 10 hour day.
He came to Louisville and got a job at General Electric making 61 cents an HOUR!!!
Can you imagine how it felt to make, in three hours what had been a 10 hour day the week before?
Yes Sir things are cheaper today than ever before in history.
Mike
Mike
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If you look at Sears and Roebuck one reason they sold so many saws even years ago was due to one thing ,credit .For instance the old slow as a snail David Bradley 360 was not cheap at all but they sold a ton of them because of monthly financing .
Things have changed some .For one thing those old DB's wouldn't cut as fast as two young strong farm lads with a cross cut saw .It would out last them though .
Today I'd well imagine one of those clam shell Poulans 50 some cc saws would cut three times the speed of those 360's and cost about half of the former .You can still buy them on credit too .
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Sears, today, is merely a shadow of what it was 50 years ago.
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Sears had the bright idea they could price stuff about 20 percent higher than everybody else and get away with it .Didn't work so well for them .It used to be you could go to the catalog sales department ,order stuff and pick it up at the store .Then they got the bright idea to direct ship it at some outlandish rate and people would go for it even though it could have went to the store with a normal shipment .Another fouled plan .
Then there was a massive foul up on the billing on credit cards which I came within a stones throw of suing their socks off over ,real close .Too many young hot shots running the game after they let go all the good management .The young Turks of Wall Street about lost that game .
I still buy things there but whoa be the sales clerk who attempts to give me the spiel of using Sears credit .They get an ear full and I prefer to do in front of a large crowd .-------The neat thing about getting a little long in the tooth is you reach a point you tell it like it is and don't really care what other people think ,I love it -- ;D
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The neat thing about getting a little long in the tooth is you reach a point you tell it like it is and don't really care what other people think ,I love it --
Life is sometimes way better when we get old.
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I would rather be old and wise than young and dumb.
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I had a lot of fun doing dumb things back then. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be entirely out of my system yet.
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Aaron, I have a 245 SA but have no stone or chain for it. Believe it or not, it has a .325 chain on it.
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http://youtu.be/Yacfr8GACRg
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poulan 4200 ad
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poulan xxv cva ?
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Aaron, I have a 245 SA but have no stone or chain for it. Believe it or not, it has a .325 chain on it.
I think I remember seeing Mark post pics of his 245SA with .325 Barracuda chain and a .325-9 rim sprocket. He restored it with NOS chain and an NOS stone a few years ago. I believe there were also .404 pitch 245SA saws with Barracuda chain.
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poulan xxv cva ?
Yep. S25-CVA (Super XXV CVA). I have a few green ones and one very nice Craftsman red version (thanks to Tim). Forgot to go back and bid on a very nice Dayton version last month. Somebody got it for $25 IIRC.
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Poulan 3350 ad
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Poulan 3350 ad
I don't think I have ever seen a 3350.
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Key Poulan shared this old poulan logo. He said it was also done in blue.
Key Poulan If you want to go really old school, here's one of our old logos. These were also done in blue.
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Poulan 4200 5200 6000 ad.
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Had to be the Bicentennial year when they dressed up the poulan XX to a poulan 76 etc
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Very cool.
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Just want to save these 2 pics. 2 ads S25CVA and XX plus a price list
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Good stuff
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I am surprised at how much those saws cost back in the day.
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I am surprised at how much those saws cost back in the day.
Guy at work had bought a partner 5000 new and I about crapped at the price he said paid back in the 80's. Cant remember off hand what he said but thinking in the 400's.
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A McCulloch 77 (120cc gear drive) cost something like $599 plus the cost of the bar and chain back in 1957. Using an on line inflation calculator, that's $5,141.85 now. Holy crap!
A Poulan 8500 with a 36" b/c cost $749.99 in the 1986-1987 list above. That's $1,622.98 now.
A 1947 Mercury Disston KB-7AY (245cc/15ci twin that could run a 10' bar with 3/4" pitch chain) cost something like $800 new. That's $8800 now!
http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm
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Poulan ad 1984 with prices. Someone posted this in the CR-G
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Gary said the ad is in Canadian dollars. I remember that this was in Canada, at the time the Canadian dollar was worth about $.77 in the US. In US pricing the 3400 would have been about $309, the 3700 about $332 and the 4000 about $371.
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Some cool new poulan jonsered dealer literature I got today from a friend.
Poulans that were sold 1997 going by date printed on back.