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How To Basics - Carb Fixes + Mods - IPL and Service Manuals => Stickys of How to Basics commonly ask questions => Topic started by: Cut4fun . on December 15, 2013, 06:02:48 pm

Title: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 15, 2013, 06:02:48 pm
Randy aka Mastermind shared 2 videos that is going to save me alot of work in the future. I was doing all of this by hand in the past and havent used acid in 5 years.

http://youtu.be/cksVNkI4zps

http://youtu.be/VuMlesup53o
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Mastermind on December 15, 2013, 06:13:41 pm
That guy is a redneck.........don't listen to that crap.
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 15, 2013, 06:17:16 pm
Hey you ole redneck  ;). Thats going to save me a ton of elbow grease and time.   ;D

Thanks,
Kevin
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: 660magnum on December 15, 2013, 06:45:04 pm
Time = Money
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Philbert on December 15, 2013, 07:13:11 pm
Very nice. Very clear videos too! 

Thanks.

Philbert
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Mastermind on December 15, 2013, 07:14:15 pm
I've not been able to watch the videos........this laptop need a video card, driver update, or????
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 15, 2013, 07:19:59 pm
Put 1 or 2 port jobs toward getting you a new laptop. $400 and under x3 Toshiba's does the trick for my whole family.

Sometimes during Dec Christmas time like now $300 under.
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on December 15, 2013, 07:41:11 pm
Cool, like cut I will use this. All we need now is for Wiggs to come up with a way to repair plating!
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Mastermind on December 15, 2013, 07:51:44 pm
Put 1 or 2 port jobs toward getting you a new laptop. $400 and under x3 Toshiba's does the trick for my whole family.

Sometimes during Dec Christmas time like now $300 under.


I've got a couple of good desktops in the house........today I bought a Apple I-Pod Gen 4 so I could upload video faster....
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: jmester on December 15, 2013, 08:28:12 pm
The disc that you chuck in the drill and use with the scotch brite what is it called. It is right there on the tip of my tongue but just can't say it. any help would be great. That is very slick how fast that is over the hand way. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Al Smith on December 15, 2013, 09:12:46 pm
Great idea on the Scotch -Brite .I do it by hand with kerosine and it takes a long time .I like the homemade flap wheel too.


Now let me tell you a little story on old Al .I got in a hurry once on an 034 cylinder and flap wheeled it using a big 1/4" electric die grinder ,powerfull .Like a dummy I used an about 3/4 used up 80 grit wheel ,bad choice ,stiff .Like you say watch the exhaust port .I cut right through the plating and turned that cylinder to junk in the twinkling of an eye .Like they say an education is not free .
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: rms61moparman on December 15, 2013, 09:43:53 pm


Well now that the cat is out of the bag, that is exactly what I do after the acid with a flapwheel.
I haven't had one come back yet and I've done some NASTY cylinders!!!!!


Mike
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 15, 2013, 10:15:30 pm
Put 1 or 2 port jobs toward getting you a new laptop. $400 and under x3 Toshiba's does the trick for my whole family.

Sometimes during Dec Christmas time like now $300 under.


I've got a couple of good desktops in the house........today I bought a Apple I-Pod Gen 4 so I could upload video faster....

I'm not smart enough for that Ipod stuff.    :-[ :P
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Mastermind on December 16, 2013, 10:57:53 am
The disc that you chuck in the drill and use with the scotch brite what is it called. It is right there on the tip of my tongue but just can't say it. any help would be great. That is very slick how fast that is over the hand way. Thanks for sharing.

It's a Roloc mandrel.
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Philbert on December 16, 2013, 12:03:18 pm
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It's a Roloc mandrel.

The kind with the tiny 'fingers' for grabbing the pads?  Almost like Velcro, but more rigid?

Philbert
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 16, 2013, 12:19:10 pm
Randy could you maybe get a close pic of the part you made for holding the emery cloth in the hand-piece?  Trying to think up some ideas I can redneck make without use of a lathe.

What was diameter for one? Like 1/8 1/16 etc
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Mastermind on December 16, 2013, 12:32:33 pm
The kind with the tiny 'fingers' for grabbing the pads?  Almost like Velcro, but more rigid?

Philbert

This type.

(http://www.marshallshardware.com/images2/productimages/22608-l.JPG)

Randy could you maybe get a close pic of the part you made for holding the emery cloth in the hand-piece?  Trying to think up some ideas I can redneck make without use of a lathe.

What was diameter for one? Like 1/8 1/16 etc

3/16"

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q498/Mastermind7864/Cylinder%20Cleanup/Cylindercleaning012_zps3854151c.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/Mastermind7864/media/Cylinder%20Cleanup/Cylindercleaning012_zps3854151c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Philbert on December 16, 2013, 01:15:28 pm
I was thinking of the disc mandrels made to work with the ScotchBrite Roloc pads (3M parts #922, 923, 924, etc.) - see photo.

eBay had some 1/4" X 4" split mandrels for about $5 shipped, and some Dremel sized ones for about $2 shipped.  Before I saw those I was thinking about taking a short length of rod and slitting it with a thin Dremel disc?

Philbert
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: farmboy on December 16, 2013, 01:22:13 pm
Thank You is a poor price to pay.  Yeh I know send a donation ;D.  The last acid treatment I did took 4-5 hrs.  Made me wonder if it was worth it.  Now I'll be willing to save 25-30 cylinders I havelaying around.
Thank you Randy your "The Man" by the way you are a true craftsman.
Shep
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Al Smith on December 16, 2013, 01:26:00 pm
Those look like tiny disc sander pads .More than likely McMaster- Carr has them .I'll look in a little bit,I have the catalog ,several as a metter of fact .
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Al Smith on December 16, 2013, 01:34:16 pm
Aha and so it is ."Disc holder " Mac master -Carr number
46325A92  2" ---46325A91 1.5"
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: Philbert on December 16, 2013, 01:50:44 pm
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Those look like tiny disc sander pads .

The ones Randy showed are used with Roloc discs that have a short, threaded stem.  The ones I showed were made to interlock with ScotchBrite type pads. There are also smooth ones for sticky back (PSA) sandpaper, hook-and-loop varieties, etc., etc.

Of course, with a hole saw and a thin piece of plywood or conveyor belting, you could cut a disc, insert a cut-off bolt and a 'T' nut, and make any kind or size you wanted.  Or take a utility knife and make a stack of ScotchBrite discs, stars, etc.

Philbert
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: alsled on December 23, 2013, 07:42:06 pm
Holy crap I tried this tonight, works GREAT, some 1/4 bar, cut it.  I also put the scotch bright in the little mandrle and it worked fine if you can't find the disk thingy.
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 28, 2014, 07:00:01 pm
I just use a 320 grit ball hone.
Title: Re: How To Remove Aluminum Transfer Without Acid
Post by: alex matthew on September 01, 2014, 02:27:00 am
Hi cheers I will give it a go