Chainsaw Repair

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Title: 338 oiler
Post by: gunrac on March 07, 2014, 09:43:21 pm
Kevin is probably in bed......so will c who is up.....
Title: Re: oiler
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on March 07, 2014, 09:48:34 pm
Which Husqvarna saw are we talking about?
Title: Re: oiler
Post by: gunrac on March 07, 2014, 09:50:43 pm
will look more into it tomorrow.........
Title: Re: oiler
Post by: gunrac on March 07, 2014, 10:01:27 pm
had a couple extra beers after my day.........338...first i run this saw.....oiler adjustment screw was just setting on top w/ adjuster still attached .......looked like a piece was broken off at the bottom of the threads......like i say......will check out in am.......clearer head......lol
Title: Re: oiler
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 07, 2014, 11:22:51 pm
Is this the back up 338 you was getting ready?   The one I had wasnt broken.
Title: Re: oiler
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 07, 2014, 11:24:01 pm
Kevin is probably in bed......so will c who is up.....

Naw I stay up late and sleep in weekends.
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 08, 2014, 07:58:52 am
husqvarna 338 west coast edition IPL. Just so you can see the oiler parts.  http://www.husqvarna.com/ddoc/HUSI/HUSI2005_AAaa/HUSI2005_AAaa__1150068-01.pdf
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: gunrac on March 08, 2014, 09:32:18 am
Is this the back up 338 you was getting ready?   The one I had wasnt broken.

Yes.......this is the back-up.....Will these pieces need to be separated before assembling? Seems like I can grab a couple threads.....but didn't want to force it....also, need to know the reasoning for the chips......thinking someone may have forced it some way.
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 08, 2014, 09:38:01 am
That should be just the dentents for oiler adjustment. Looks like it just come unscrewed to far.  Like when you back out you feel 3 notches so to speak.

I dont know if you can get it started and tightened down without removing the motor or not. See the area for a socket or wrench, just guessing. Never had to go deep in a 338 yet.  I'd sure try just doing it with a screwdriver first though.

Manual says just screw in tighten down.



husqvarna 338 service manual  http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mymowerparts.com%2Fpdf%2FHusqvarna-Service-Repair-Manuals%2FW0301005.pdf&ei=kCwbU42JDe3iyAGMpIDwAg&usg=AFQjCNGTg-xWDSiPW-Rzuj9ZvKsnyNwQYQ&sig2=TB5-QoZOm4FNXplXWvt0hg&bvm=bv.62578216,d.aWc
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: gunrac on March 08, 2014, 10:37:00 am
That should be just the dentents for oiler adjustment. Looks like it just come unscrewed to far.  Like when you back out you feel 3 notches so to speak.

I dont know if you can get it started and tightened down without removing the motor or not. See the area for a socket or wrench, just guessing. Never had to go deep in a 338 yet.  I'd sure try just doing it with a screwdriver first though.

Manual says just screw in tighten down.



husqvarna 338 service manual  http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mymowerparts.com%2Fpdf%2FHusqvarna-Service-Repair-Manuals%2FW0301005.pdf&ei=kCwbU42JDe3iyAGMpIDwAg&usg=AFQjCNGTg-xWDSiPW-Rzuj9ZvKsnyNwQYQ&sig2=TB5-QoZOm4FNXplXWvt0hg&bvm=bv.62578216,d.aWc
......

Yes I felt the notch's......not so sure if I can just get away w/screwdriver only tho.
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on March 08, 2014, 10:42:26 am
If you can get it close with the screw driver, then perhaps one of those little tiny ignition wrenches that no one uses any more to snug it up.
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 08, 2014, 10:45:28 am
Manual pics also show the motor out messing with the oiler.  I'd sure try to get it without doing that first. What a pita for just that.
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on March 08, 2014, 10:57:29 am
Yeah! Perhaps Husqvarna hired the guy from Stihl that designed the 019T! LMAO!
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: gunrac on March 08, 2014, 12:06:40 pm
Opened up the access hole thru the plastic, just a bit. But, I can't grab a thread now......see if I can come up w/a tap somewhere today........yes, a PITA for sure.
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: gunrac on March 09, 2014, 10:45:42 am
 Husquvarna have there own bastard size's? Couldn't even come up w/a nut that fit the adjuster to find the correct size for tap.
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on March 09, 2014, 11:08:41 am
May be metric, from the picture it looks to be metric fine thread 0.8mm pitch.
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: gunrac on March 09, 2014, 11:50:03 am
May be metric, from the picture it looks to be metric fine thread 0.8mm pitch.

Thats kinda what my buddy figured........with what he had to check and work with, could not be positive. Going to a machine shop tomorrow, hopefully get it figured out.
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: Cut4fun on March 09, 2014, 12:21:18 pm
Got a idea just now. From looking at this 338 oiler  pic.
Separate the part that screws into the case.  Then put the part in the case first then screw  the adjuster part back in the other part once installed back in the case.
 Remember I am just WAGing here.

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0032/0472/products/chainsawparts2_5246415_medium.jpg?v=1299682800)
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: jmester on March 09, 2014, 08:49:52 pm
The piston pump needs to be slid back in the pump housing to allow for the control bolt to thread into the pump housing. The round portion above the threads on the control bolt rides on the end of the pump shaft  near the splined portion. Once the control bolt fell out the piston pump slid forward enough to not let the control bolt slide in. May be I am missing what you are asking.
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on March 09, 2014, 09:33:08 pm
The piston pump needs to be slid back in the pump housing to allow for the control bolt to thread into the pump housing. The round portion above the threads on the control bolt rides on the end of the pump shaft  near the splined portion. Once the control bolt fell out the piston pump slid forward enough to not let the control bolt slide in. May be I am missing what you are asking.

No, you are not missing anything, very good advice!
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: gunrac on March 10, 2014, 11:35:51 am
The piston pump needs to be slid back in the pump housing to allow for the control bolt to thread into the pump housing. The round portion above the threads on the control bolt rides on the end of the pump shaft  near the splined portion. Once the control bolt fell out the piston pump slid forward enough to not let the control bolt slide in. May be I am missing what you are asking.

That makes perfect since. Will this take a tear down to do? What kind of a job is it to slide it back?
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on March 10, 2014, 12:05:28 pm
Not a big deal to push it back but you will have to remove the clutch drum, clutch and worm wheel. So you can get to the pump shaft teeth that the worm wheel engages. You can then push the shaft in the desired direction with a dental pick!

Got a idea just now. From looking at this 338 oiler  pic.
Separate the part that screws into the case.  Then put the part in the case first then screw  the adjuster part back in the other part once installed back in the case.
 Remember I am just WAGing here.

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0032/0472/products/chainsawparts2_5246415_medium.jpg?v=1299682800)
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: gunrac on March 11, 2014, 04:07:09 pm
Not a big deal to push it back but you will have to remove the clutch drum, clutch and worm wheel. So you can get to the pump shaft teeth that the worm wheel engages. You can then push the shaft in the desired direction with a dental pick!

I done what you suggested, it fell right together.....but the worm wheel was pretty well ate up.
Replaced it...all is good........thx guys
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on March 11, 2014, 04:45:25 pm
Glad we could help !
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: Cut4fun on March 11, 2014, 04:47:44 pm
Not a big deal to push it back but you will have to remove the clutch drum, clutch and worm wheel. So you can get to the pump shaft teeth that the worm wheel engages. You can then push the shaft in the desired direction with a dental pick!


Good deal gunrac.


I enjoyed learning more about these saws from the side lines.  The above was neat to know too.
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: gunrac on March 11, 2014, 05:00:52 pm
Not a big deal to push it back but you will have to remove the clutch drum, clutch and worm wheel. So you can get to the pump shaft teeth that the worm wheel engages. You can then push the shaft in the desired direction with a dental pick!




Good deal gunrac.


I enjoyed learning more about these saws from the side lines.  The above was neat to know too.

Easy little tricks to everything, nice to find a forum where there are good people that will share them.
I need to get that other saw to you, so I quit robbing parts off it....I been sick the last several days, bit better now. Maybe get hooked up w/you this weekend....
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: Cut4fun on March 11, 2014, 05:13:22 pm
Still betting just the fulcrum is a bit high and puddling fuel.  Then allowing puddled fuel to go down the intake track to cylinder when dropped to ground or raised straight up like I showed you that day.   

Soon see............
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on March 11, 2014, 08:26:58 pm
What is slimy, green and carries a rifle?































Mucous McCain!
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: gunrac on March 11, 2014, 09:03:47 pm
What is slimy, green and carries a rifle?































Mucous McCain!

and his boy, Lark.............lol
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on March 11, 2014, 09:07:30 pm
Pa, can I have the 50¢ steak?
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on March 12, 2014, 10:34:14 am
All you need now to go along with your saw is a modified 1892 Winchester Saddle Gun in 44/40! You know I read something written by Connors' daughter that said he practiced day and night until he could do all that stuff with the rifle with either hand.
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on March 12, 2014, 10:46:00 am
Have a look here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rifleman4440/Sandbox

Quote
Since Chuck Connors was truly ambidextrous and after much practice, he handled the rifle left handed and right handed with the same ease. To shoot it with rapid fire succession it takes as much force to push the lever forward and eject the shells before pulling it back to fire. It takes a lot of practice to handle it with the look of ease that Lucas McCain did.
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: gunrac on March 12, 2014, 01:53:43 pm
I came across this sometime ago........done a search an found it again....it's from a survivalist forum....just havin fun thread. Thought that was where Killian, came up with it.......



The following is a radio script a friend of mine and I wrote in 1995 this is the first of 3 episodes we wrote:

“THE RIFLEPERSON”


Characters

Mucus McCain
Lark McCain
Formica Terrace
Tilly
Old Timer
Announcer
Woman
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________________________________________

Woman: He’s got a gun! He’s got a gun!

(SFX: Gunshots)

(MUSIC: Opening theme to “The Rifleman” by Hershel Burke Gilbert/John Paul Music Co.)

Announcer: The Rifleperson! The continuing saga of a single parent trying to raise his son in the wild but politically correct west. Today’s episode “The Second Amendment”

(End theme)

(SFX: Hoof Beats)

Mucus: Well it looks like mighty fine country, son.

Lark: Looks like a danged old desert to me, Pa.

Mucus: There’s no looking back though. We’ve come too far.

Lark: Apparently, there’s no looking forward, either Pa. The sun’s in my eyes. Say what is that?

Mucus: Our destination. The Town of South Fork, New Mexico, son.

Lark: South Fork? I thought that was in Dallas?

Mucus: Different series, son this is radio.

Lark: Oh…yeah.

(MUSIC: Corny western music.)

(SFX: Hoof beats as Mucus and Lark ride into town and stop.)

Old Timer: There’s a stranger a’riden’ into town, Marshall Terrace. Say, what’s that thing he’s a’carryin’?
Formica: That’s a boy, old timer.

Old Timer: No! Dang blast it! I mean that other long skinny thing he’s a’carrying’.

Formica: Well, I’m not rightly sure. I’ve only seen pictures of them in books, of course, but I’d say it was a rifle.

Crowd: (gasping in fear) A Gun?

Mucus: Howdy, folks. I’m Mucus McCain. This is my boy Lark.

Old Timer: What in tarnation is a boy-lark?

Mucus: That’s his name. Lark.

Old Timer: Danged fool name if’n you ask me.

Formica: Hi, I’m Formica Terrace. I’m the marshal in South Fork. I don’t know this old timer’s name, but he’s the oldest man round these parts.

Lark: Why he don’t look all that old.

Formica: He is used to be janitor in this station before we started the show. You’re new to this, ain’t you, boy?

Mucus: My boy and I are looking to buy a spread hereabouts.

Old Timer: Oh that’s down the street, stranger. Third house on the left, the one what’s got the red light in the window.

Mucus: Uh….No old timer. I mean we are looking to buy a ranch.

Formica: Oh. Homeless huh?

Mucus: Yeah.

Tilly: Marshal! Marshal Terrace!

Formica: Yes, Tilly?

Tilly: That man there! Has he got what I think he’s got in his hand?

Formica: Well I don’t know, Tilly. That’s a right personal question to ask don’t you think?

Tilly: Hmmph!

Formica: Meet Tilly Alum. She’s the chairperson of LCI.

Lark: LCI what’s that?

Formica: Long-gun Control, Incorporated. They’re a bunch of interfering do-gooders who’ve banned all guns from the West.

Tilly: That’s right, Mr. McCain. If we can only keep those evil guns out of the West, we can eliminate all problems of pour society. If we can pass strong enough anti- gun legislation, we can prevent any of those rowdy yahoos from gaining power over anyone else.

Mucus: Let me see if I get this. If you pass enough laws to prevent folks from having guns, then you’ll have no crime. Is that right?

Tilly: That’s correct, Citizen McCain. Why just last week the Marshal had to shoot six outlaws who were robbing the bank. Then he had to chase five drunken cowboys from town who were shooting up the saloon. And just yesterday a bunch of Apaches attacked and burned the stage from Lincoln leaving only a single survivor.

Mucus: Well, Ma’am, just exactly how did the Marshal do his job? And how did that one person survive the Apache attack?

Tilly: They each had a - - Hmmph! You’ll not argue your way out of this using logic!

Mucus: If you’ve passed such laws, and I come here carrying a rifle, doesn’t that make me an outlaw?

Tilly: Well I guess it does, Mr. McCain.

Mucus: Since I’m already an outlaw, I can just ignore all of your stupid gun bans, right?

Tilly: Well I… uh…you gun advocates are all alike! You just want to shoot bad guys and hide behind the Second Amendment! And we ALL know it was really about strap-less gowns!

Lark: What is a strapless gown, Pa?

Mucus: I’m not rightly sure, son.

Tilly: You know the Constitutional right to bare arms.

Mucus: Look, lady, I’m just a sodbuster from the Nations.

Formica: Oh, you mean an agricultural husbandry engineer.

Mucus: What?

Formica: That’s what we call them round here. You being homeless and all we also have to label you a habitat disadvantaged vagrant, too.

Tilly: Vagrant? Why, this man is a gun-toting, child corrupting, male chauvinist, NAZI who’s probably fascist too! Do you duty, Marshal, and take his gun away from him.

Formica: I’d really rather not do that, Tilly.

Tilly: And….Why not?

Formica: Because I’m not an outlaw. He’s got a gun…I don’t!

Tilly: And….Why not?

Formica: Because YOU made it against the law to own one.

Tilly (pause) Oh. Well, as head of LCI chapter 2107, I must insist that all guns are evil and must be banished so that we can kill each other with clubs, knives and spears like civilized people.

Mucus: Guns are just tools, Tilly. Neither good nor evil. Only men are good or evil.

Old Timer: She wouldn’t know, sonny. She ain’t had one in nigh on fifty years.

Tilly: You’re so noble sounding about your tools of death! There’s nothing you can do about it. I will pass laws that will make guns contraband anywhere and there’s nothing you can do to stop me.

Mucus: Well…., I can think of one thing that might.

Tilly: What’s that, Mr. McCain?

Mucus: You don’t have a gun do you, Tilly?

Tilly: No! Of course not! Having a gun could get me killed!

Mucus: Good. That’s all I wanted to know.

(SFX: Gunshots)

(MUSIC: End “Rifleman” Theme)

Announcer: (speaking over theme music) Well…..Who would have thought that a gun control group would shoot their mouths off? And who would have though Mucus would have been such a snot? Tune in next time Boys and Girls , when you here Lark say:

Lark: How do you flush this thing, Pa?

(SFX: Flushing Toilet)


THE END



 
Title: Re: 338 oiler
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on March 12, 2014, 03:43:04 pm
LMFAO, no what I quoted was an old joke from when I was a kid! The rest of the stuff about Connors is true.