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Title: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 18, 2014, 12:39:10 pm
Another little poulan came in and it wont leave  :'(   = friend moved up to a 036 and is all smiles.   So now I have a 1950 2150 2375 to do fuel lines and carbs on.  All start just need the typical stuff on these.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 18, 2014, 04:12:03 pm
We'll is that a good thing or bad.

I was out bucking and splitting today.   I was using my 3700.    That saw just makes me smile.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 18, 2014, 05:01:33 pm
Any saw is a good thing I guess, especially when they come to you on the cheap hand delivered  (traded my labor sharpening some chains). 

I'm just going to set it on the shelf on the way way back list of saws to do.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150
Post by: Cut4fun on April 19, 2014, 08:19:28 pm
After doing wheel tire swaps and oil changes today. I was able to look the 2150 over.  Has the throttle lock on top of rear handle like I like  on these.
Couldnt have been used much and just what I thought IMO. Fuel filter with broken line attached rattling around in tank.  Then found the little black connector in tank too.  Guess need to see whats missing there.
All 4 recoil bolts missing, but he told me he had took those for something. Fills like good psi pulling over.

Weird thing I thought it had a chain brake clutch cover like on the 1950 and 2375 WT. Turns out it was a fake handle and just a hand guard that looks like a brake handle. Attached or molded into handle somehow. Didnt look real close at that.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 29, 2014, 02:47:29 pm
Poulan 2150.  Just ran all  new lines 3 and left stock sizes for whoever ends up  with it down the road. 

I used that tygon 1100 again and that line gets really stiff just setting on the shelf.  Really like working with the tygon 4040 better.  1100 for the bigger lines and 4040 for the small one.

Tried to get some good pics of the fuel line routing. Will upload in a bit.

Also after getting it altogether the primer bulb pushed right through. So I just pulled and plocked off ends to start etc.  Then since I didnt have a spare primer bulb  in screw on style, I pulled one from the old ryobi tiller that was clip in style and used it for now.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 29, 2014, 03:03:12 pm
This was the fuel line routing on this poulan 2150.  Marked them A B C and at both end areas to show routing.

The 2375 on the bench the C line was on the left side of carb.

Top right red A didnt show up to well.  :(

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Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Eccentric on July 29, 2014, 03:52:42 pm
Nice illustration Kevin. 
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 29, 2014, 04:10:18 pm
Nice illustration Kevin. 

Thanks just trying to make things easier for future folks.

I get confused just looking and trying to remember myself when removed.  Can only imagine the guys doing it the 1st time.

Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 29, 2014, 04:34:57 pm
OK the older 2375 that is letter C line on left side of carb.  I will correct my above post too.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 29, 2014, 06:21:40 pm
Aint that the way it is  :D. Everything checks out, oiler and all. Out making some test cuts and notice chain is dry. Go back in pull bar and chain and start up. Nope no oil output.  :P

Pull everything from inside tank out to oiler. Oil pump gear looks good etc. Cleaned up blew out hoses,put back together and all good again.   ::)

Noticed the sticker on this 2150 is dated 1995 and the 2375 has a sticker of 2003.  That must explain some different fasteners used on the 2150  ( like straight slot for top cover fasteners )and some others I noticed or someone has changed them over the years.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 29, 2014, 07:09:17 pm
I could never remember how those fuel lines went.   I had to write it down, but there is nothing like a good illustration.   Thanks.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 29, 2014, 08:58:23 pm
You guys ever paid attention to the final rpm's you are turning on these after tuned by ear and then checked with tach?   

poulan 2150 2050 IPL  http://www.barrettsmallengine.com/partslist/poulan2050chainsaw.pdf
all of these too in the IPL
Poulan 2050 Type 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 
Poulan 2150 Type 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 
Poulan 2175 Type 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 
Poulan 2375 WildThing Type 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: thousandbuckle on November 17, 2015, 08:25:47 pm
Can you tell me if the fuel filter goes on line A or line B?
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 17, 2015, 08:28:42 pm
Can you tell me if the fuel filter goes on line A or line B?

my WAG A   correct me if I am wrong someone. been awhile now and memory not sharp.


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Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: thousandbuckle on November 17, 2015, 08:32:56 pm
If it is A I am having a heck of a time to get the fuel filter on the line, the line just seems too small for the filter nipple. The fuel line size I used was 1/16 ID x 1/8 OD and 3/32 ID x 3/16 OD
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 17, 2015, 08:36:21 pm
The small line was 140 x 080
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 17, 2015, 08:37:23 pm
Lot of guys just drill hole bigger to fit the bigger line used. That way all the same.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Drew_Uth on November 18, 2015, 08:33:54 am
Pretty sure the filter goes on B.  A goes to primer.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 18, 2015, 12:21:47 pm
Pretty sure the filter goes on B.  A goes to primer.

Fuel lines shown is correct on a running saw above. A does not go to primer. It is as shown.

Just cant remember which line had the fuel filter at end inside tank. All my saws like this are gone.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun on November 18, 2015, 01:01:21 pm
Found another pic where someone working on small poulan.

I'm pretty sure it is line A like I guessed earlier has fuel filter on the end in tank.  I just dont remember 100% so check yourselves.



Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 18, 2015, 05:23:16 pm
I think it is A the small line that has the filter on it.   When you pump the primer bulb you should see fuel in the line returning to the fuel tank.   That line has no filter which means the other line going into the tank does have a filter.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: leec on November 21, 2015, 04:13:23 pm
Pretty sure the filter goes on B.  A goes to primer.

Fuel lines shown is correct on a running saw above. A does not go to primer. It is as shown.

Just cant remember which line had the fuel filter at end inside tank. All my saws like this are gone.
I thinlk it is B that gets the filter inside the tank.  The pic is confusing as A appears to go into the tank beside B but it just loops round behind the carb. A is the return line from the purge effort.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 21, 2015, 05:19:56 pm
Does the new strato poulan 3314 have this set up?  I just got one in the other day and can check the A B routing.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 21, 2015, 05:20:46 pm
Matter fact I will walk out and check. it is halftime.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 21, 2015, 05:28:16 pm
Pretty sure the filter goes on B.  A goes to primer.

Fuel lines shown is correct on a running saw above. A does not go to primer. It is as shown.

Just cant remember which line had the fuel filter at end inside tank. All my saws like this are gone.
I thinlk it is B that gets the filter inside the tank.  The pic is confusing as A appears to go into the tank beside B but it just loops round behind the carb. A is the return line from the purge effort.
my WAG A   correct me if I am wrong someone. been awhile now and memory not sharp.
I think it is A the small line that has the filter on it.   When you pump the primer bulb you should see fuel in the line returning to the fuel tank.   That line has no filter which means the other line going into the tank does have a filter.

Confirmed now.

Like me and Roger said. 

A is attached to fuel filter. 

B is the return line from primer back to tank.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: leec on November 23, 2015, 08:35:41 am
Just working on a 2150 and the filter was on B although line A was also long enough in the tank to be the fuel line. Line B in my saw had a joiner on the line just inside the tank as if it was acting as a seal pulled up into the line opening in the tank case.  P&C good on the 2150.  I find these to be better saws than the later ones. The IPLs are useless.

I also picked up a Stratos saw at the same time but it runs so I can just follow the existing lines
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: thousandbuckle on November 23, 2015, 08:56:32 am
I hooked up the fuel filter to line A the small line coming out of the left side of the tank into the top connector on the carb. The lower carb connector went to the short nipple on the primer bulb. Then the larger hose from the longer nipple of the the primer bulb goes back into the tank on the right hand side. With this setup pumping the primer bulb was sucking fuel into line A through the filter and returning it through line B with no filter and it runs perfect.

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Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 23, 2015, 12:45:21 pm
leec Line B coming from the primer to tank has that joiner. It is suppose to end there inside tank. No line attached. Someone used the wrong side IMO.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 23, 2015, 09:53:20 pm
I hooked up the fuel filter to line A the small line coming out of the left side of the tank into the top connector on the carb. The lower carb connector went to the short nipple on the primer bulb. Then the larger hose from the longer nipple of the the primer bulb goes back into the tank on the right hand side. With this setup pumping the primer bulb was sucking fuel into line A through the filter and returning it through line B with no filter and it runs perfect.

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Thanks for getting back and letting us know.    Good to hear you got it going.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: leec on November 24, 2015, 08:39:03 am
Pretty sure the filter goes on B.  A goes to primer.



Just cant remember which line had the fuel filter at end inside tank. All my saws like this are gone.
I thinlk it is B that gets the filter inside the tank.  The pic is confusing as A appears to go into the tank beside B but it just loops round behind the carb. A is the return line from the purge effort.
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Fuel lines shown is correct on a running saw above. A does not go to primer. It is as shown.

I was wrong.  Fuel line is A the smaller of the two lines and the filter attaches to it.   My saw had the filter on B so no wonder it would not run.  Also thanks to the photos I got the carb linkage back on correctly.  Just need to find the right size lines in my swag and it will be done.  "An other fine mess you've gotten us into Ollie"

Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: leec on November 24, 2015, 11:14:57 pm
I am still scratching my head over this.  To start with I just realized that my carb is different. One fuel connection on each side of the carb.

It would seem to make sense to me to have the breather/return line go to the highest part of the fuel tank, which would be A rather than B.  I did drill A out so I could use my fuel line puller, which wouldn't go through the original hole, even without the line attached.
I still haven't committed to which line gets the filter. I would have thought that the return line should end just inside the tank.  On my saw both line would reach the bottom of the tank?
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 25, 2015, 08:29:41 am
The strato carb and the WT 2375 type carb aka different one have line C on the left side of carb.  Only difference from the pic.

Line B just goes in to the nipple connection no further. 

Line A has filter and goes to bottom with turn
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: leec on November 25, 2015, 08:39:27 am
I'm guessing the the 'nipple' is on line B just inside the tank.  I found one on my saw, which also had a length of line attached.  The filter had come off so it was hard to figure which line it was on.
Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 25, 2015, 08:42:27 am
Yep just inside the tank nipple is line B where it stops.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: leec on November 26, 2015, 10:09:05 am
Finally got it!!
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: leec on November 26, 2015, 02:59:33 pm
Is there anyway of stopping these bigbox store Poulans from dripping oil after use?  I've tried burping the oil tank but doesn't seem to have much effect.

Thanks,

Lee
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: leec on November 26, 2015, 09:05:37 pm
By the way the P3314 (42cc) Stratos carbed saw runs really well. Previous version that crossed my path always seemed gutless.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: Chris-PA on November 27, 2015, 09:57:31 am
The earlier non-strato engines run quite well too.  There were changes to the porting and combustion chamber size over the years, with the final non-strato engines being kinda lame and having a very restrictive cat muffler.
Title: Re: Poulan 2150 fuel line routing
Post by: dynodave on November 30, 2015, 03:40:50 pm
Is there anyway of stopping these bigbox store Poulans from dripping oil after use?  I've tried burping the oil tank but doesn't seem to have much effect.

Thanks,

Lee

These saws are generous bar oilers. After shut down,  it is the bar that is draining down. I usually park the saw with the clutch area on a rag.
Line A has the filter and they use a small line filter.
Line B is the primer bulb return (larger line) to the tank and is retained by a tubing coupler inserted in the line than pulled back up to the tanks wall.
There are two kinds of primer bulb fittings
1: two small lines....2: one small line and one thick line.