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Title: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 29, 2011, 04:03:34 pm
I've owned 2 PP330 and was wondering about the poulan 3450.

 Is the poulan pro 330 54cc and 3450 same  saw? Just one yellow and one green.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Modifiedmark on July 05, 2011, 04:26:46 pm
As far as I know the color is the only difference.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 14, 2011, 03:23:22 pm
As far as I know the color is the only difference.

I'll know real soon MM. Wife said 3 boxes got delivered today  :o.

Expecting a 3450  ;D
63PS3  picco chisel lp chain  ;D
and more parts   8)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on July 14, 2011, 04:49:21 pm
It's so much sexier in the poulan lime green   :D :D :D  Anyone know the actual name of the poulan green?

Well look at that MM it has one of those factory poulan dual port covers on it too.  ;) ;) :D :D   Jking of course.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP325/3450390025001.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP325/3450390025006.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP325/3450390025008.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 15, 2011, 06:03:20 pm
I just couldnt pass up a running pho 330 parts saw for $46 to my door.  Only problem it isnt a parts saw now.

I was told it was missing muffler, bolts, muffler shield, bar adjuster etc and  Big problem was the **** oil tank under bar adjuster bolt.(( Looks like someone had put bar on without being in the bar adjuster hole on bar and tightened down clutch cover and pushed bar adjuster into crankcase and **** the oil tank. ))
 Well I fixed the **** oil tank and stole some parts off the PP365 project saw I am rebuilding to test out the PP330. All checks out to me now and oil tank leaks no more.

Looking for a muffler, shield, bolts, bar adjuster for the 330.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP325/PP330003.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP325/PP330001.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: nmurph on September 15, 2011, 07:31:01 pm
How do these 330's compare to an 034/359? I bought one in a lot of items and don't know anything about them or about the condition of the saw. I will pick it up next Friday.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Modifiedmark on September 15, 2011, 08:09:18 pm
Depends what you mean by compare.

Are you talking cut speed only? Weight? Handleing?

They feel real good to me, weight is not bad and they cut pretty darn good if you ask, me. The mufflers are really restricted though so dont get into a speed contest with one till the mufflers modded. The good part is the mufflers are 2 piece and easy to do.

Keep a open mind and give it a try, you may like it. You have to remember these were not priced like a 034 or 359 either.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on September 16, 2011, 11:32:19 am
How do these 330's compare to an 034/359? I bought one in a lot of items and don't know anything about them or about the condition of the saw. I will pick it up next Friday.

I've never tested the 54cc ones. My 034/036, 028 super are gone and never owned a 359, only 357xp. I do have a 46mm husky 55 and a partner 550 left in that size cc.  For the price and cc size you cant beat them IMO, I think the 330 full price was $279 and could be bought as low as $199. 

They do seem bulky and little heavy for 54cc but 60cc one tested,  when compared below it felt better in the woods then the 262xp. Both of us like the feel and handling of the poulan better in the woods cutting over the 262.

 I did compare the 3750 60cc to a 262xp cutting firewood one day last year with another guy on hand to switch back and forth. Here is what we thought.  http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/poulan-3750-60cc/

Now  remember you can take the 330 3450 54cc to 60cc very easy and cheap with oem parts.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Modifiedmark on September 21, 2011, 08:59:25 pm
I have a Poulan 3500 Type II  If you come across a real IPL for one of these, you will discover that the cylinder and other parts are different between Types I, II, & III.


You are correct that the Types I II & IV are different then the Type III cyl and piston.

Your wrong per several IPL's and documents that your type II is 60cc though. It is the Type III that shares the same 60cc P/C with the 60cc 3750.

Still , you have a nice saw and thanks for sharing it.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on September 21, 2011, 09:08:33 pm
Mark tell Ohiogregg to check his spam folder for a email. Me and w8ye might make the trip if Oct 8th. Al Smith needs info and maybe procarbine2k too.

w8ye just needs to trade me that old worn out poulan 3500  ;) ;). Heck with all the stihl and huskys he owns now it couldnt be seeing any use  ::).
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Modifiedmark on September 23, 2011, 10:37:48 pm
3500

It has been several years since I paid any attention to the type # of the saw. I'll have to look at it and see what it is? Seems I remember going over all this back 12 yrs or so ago?

Will do!
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Modifiedmark on September 23, 2011, 10:39:08 pm
This parts link goes along with what Modified Mark had to say about the different 3500 types

http://www.ereplacementparts.com/piston-kit-3500-3600-3750-3450-p-261080.html

Your post was titled 330 and 3450. I was speaking about the 3450, but like your link shows, there was a 60cc 3450.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 25, 2011, 05:39:36 pm
This parts link goes along with what Modified Mark had to say about the different 3500 types

http://www.ereplacementparts.com/piston-kit-3500-3600-3750-3450-p-261080.html

Your post was titled 330 and 3450. I was speaking about the 3450, but like your link shows, there was a 60cc 3450.

OK guys which Type 1 2 3 ? 3450 had 60cc top end already on it. I did not know this.

I just picked up another like new 330 today with a 16" bar.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: w8ye on September 25, 2011, 10:50:32 pm
I'm going from going from old memory here  from 10 years ago or more  and have not thought about it recently so feel free to set the record straight . . . . 

I don't think there are going to be any 60cc 3450's unless someone like one of us put a 60cc P&C on one?

But just because your saw is a 3750 doesn't automatically make it a 60cc as proven by the previous posts?

Also, not all the cylinders are Gilardoni's in these?

I've read all these details on the Internet several years ago but it is hard to remember now.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 25, 2011, 11:22:34 pm
The 1st 3750 I had I know was 60cc with Gilardoni cylinder. I rebuilt that one.

530071321       Piston Kit Model 3450 T1,T2,T4     $52.21    
   
530069549       Piston Kit 3500, 3600, 3750 T1 & T2, 3450 T3     $44.81    
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Modifiedmark on September 25, 2011, 11:25:45 pm
The 1st 3750 I had I know was 60cc with Gilardoni cylinder. I rebuilt that one.

530071321       Piston Kit Model 3450 T1,T2,T4     $52.21    
   
530069549       Piston Kit 3500, 3600, 3750 T1 & T2, 3450 T3     $44.81

Keven all 3750's were 60cc and I think there were only a type I and II on them.

Like you found, the Type III 3450 was indeed a 60cc model.

Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 25, 2011, 11:32:58 pm
I'm digging Mark and W8ye I'm digging.

530030176 Piston Ring Model 3450 T1,T2,T4
   
530036176 Piston Ring Model 3750 T1 & T2 3450 T3


530071321 Piston Kit Model 3450 T1,T2,T4
   
530069549 Piston Kit Model 3750 T1 & T2, 3450 T3

530071321 Piston Kit  Poulan 330 54cc

Yep I can only find T1 T2 3750's and both have the 60cc piston. 

Thanks guys for lighting the fire today.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 25, 2011, 11:48:48 pm
Poulan 3350 3500 3600 numbers to compare to above.

 
530069546 3350 piston

530069549 3500 & 3600  piston

530030176 3350 rings

530036176 3500 & 3600 rings
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on September 27, 2011, 06:53:51 pm
Just so you guys know. Just because you are buying used parts dont make it the best price. I priced a used muffler for a 330 for $12 plus 7 shipping.  Then a new muffler at a used store for $45  :o  plus shipping .

I went and ordered new from poulan online dealer. Being it was added to a bigger order it was only $1 more shipping to my 8 I was at anyway. Muffler was $8 new for 330.

530053465   MUFFLER COVER   1   $3.66
530053596   BODY MUFFLER P219   1   $4.25

530016259   SCR 1/4 20M5 X 2.750   2   $2.25
530015722   WASHER 1/4 PLAIN   2   $0.63
530053595   BACKPLATE MUFFLER P21   2   $1.66
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: farmboy on September 28, 2011, 08:09:32 am
Just so you guys know. Just because you are buying used parts dont make it the best price. I priced a used muffler for a 330 for $12 plus 7 shipping.  Then a new muffler at a used store for $45  :o  plus shipping .

I went and ordered new from poulan online dealer. Being it was added to a bigger order it was only $1 more shipping to my 8 I was at anyway. Muffler was $8 new for 330.

530053465   MUFFLER COVER   1   $3.66
530053596   BODY MUFFLER P219   1   $4.25

530016259   SCR 1/4 20M5 X 2.750   2   $2.25
530015722   WASHER 1/4 PLAIN   2   $0.63
530053595   BACKPLATE MUFFLER P21   2   $1.66

That is the truth!  Back in 1970 I had a 1969 Ford 428 Cobra Jet.  The hood hinges were way too little for that much hood and they would bend.  Anyway went to junk yard paid $25 pr. and had to take em off myself.  Was @ the dealer had em lookit up for kicks $8 ea. new.  The rule applies to all parts not just saws.
Shep
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 12, 2012, 01:32:21 pm
Had to take some pics of the 330 and 3450 so just posting pics here too.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP325/pp3303450002.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP325/pp3303450003.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP325/pp3303450001.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP325/pp3303450004.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 12, 2012, 09:19:17 pm
So the 330 and the 3450 are both 54cc saws with open port transfers.  What I want to know is, are the transfers indentical in their design. I know that the 3450's have quad open port transfers that go straight up.  Does the 330 have the same design?  I also know that the 3750's have quad open port transfers that are curved.
   So I was just wandering if there was any difference in the ports of a 330 and a 3450.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 12, 2012, 10:51:53 pm
I cant remember which type 3 or not but those 3450 was 60cc.

I cant remember on the 330 topends been to long since I have had others torn down.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 13, 2012, 01:38:55 am
I have had the 3450 54cc engines apart and I have had the 3750 60cc engines apart but I have never had a 330 apart that is what I was wandering about.   What makes a 3450 and a 330 different from each other other than the color.  It could be in the way the transfers are designed.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 13, 2012, 07:42:11 am
I've had a 330 all the way apart and split open.

Sorry I just cant remember back then what the transfers looked like and I lost all my pics when racesaws site went down the first time back then.

Thought, try looking at part number on 3450 54cc cylinder and piston. Might be the same as 330.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 14, 2012, 12:08:39 am
That was a good thought.
I looked up the part numbers for the 3450 and 330.
The 3450 54cc has a different part number for the cylinder and the piston from the 330.
The piston ring has the same part numbers for both engines.
So the 3450 and 330 are not identical saws and there is some difference going on.  Until I open one up I guess I will not know what specific item is different.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on October 14, 2012, 12:04:43 pm
Found a pic by Mastermind. Says cylinder on left is poulan pro 330. 

(http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9837/poulan330012.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on October 14, 2012, 12:07:43 pm
380 and 3750 cylinder

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/Gregg500/100_0150-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 14, 2012, 12:59:35 pm
That is exactly what I suspected.   The 330 is large dual port transfers and the 3450 is quad port.   Thanks for the pictures.   
Now which is the stronger running engine and we will know which transfer design was more effective.

I am almost sure that the 3450 is the quad port transfer by the way.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2012, 04:10:39 pm
That is exactly what I suspected.   The 330 is large dual port transfers and the 335 is quad port.   Thanks for the pictures.   
Now which is the stronger running engine and we will know which transfer design was more effective.

I am almost sure that the 3450 is the quad port transfer by the way.
 

330 on LEFT looks like quads to me ,    3300 was on the RIGHT is single in double pic.

Tried to brighten up so you can see the quads on 330. pic blow.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 14, 2012, 04:30:42 pm
Sorry I made a mistake earlier.   The cylinder on the left is a 3450 and the one on the right is a 330.

I have a cylinder in the garage right now that is off of a 3300 and it is dual port transfers.   

So now that I think about it the PP 330 must be the chrome cylinder version of a 3300.  That actually make more sense to me.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2012, 04:56:43 pm
Per Mastermind the one on the LEFT came off a Poulan 330. The one on the RIGHT  came off a craftsman version of 3300. Thats what he posted and all I am going by.
The one on the LEFT reminds me of the 330 cylinder I had off way back.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2012, 05:04:39 pm
Found another 330 pic showing quads.

Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 14, 2012, 06:40:07 pm
I have a 3450 here that I am going to tear down and do some minor modifications to.   I will post some pictures of the cylinder when I do.   You know I have to figure this out now.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2012, 08:23:39 pm
My 2 330 and 3450 are running perfect so I dont want to tear them down.

 I want to open my 415 up too ( but wont it is running perfect too) because I swear it was the same as the 475 505 transfers. But the part number shows the same as my 425 that has quads.  ???  I'm just wandering if the 415 cyl was just updated or my memory just forgot it was quads too.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: 660magnum on October 14, 2012, 08:50:09 pm
Look in the exhaust port?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2012, 09:00:01 pm
That works on the  closed port 5000 v/s the open port 500 and 5000 with square v/s round edges.  I dont know on these if you can see enough or not.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 14, 2012, 10:48:17 pm
Look in the exhaust port?

I do not know why I don't think of these things sometimes.   Good Idea.

Ok so I pulled the muffler off of my 3450 and off of my 330 and I can see the top of the transfers with no problems at all.    Both the 3450 and the 330 are identical and are quad port transfers.   I also know the 3450 54cc version is a chrome cylinder because, I have done the acid treatment on one I replaced a piston in.  So I guess Mark is correct that both saws are identical except one green one yellow.

It is odd that when I looked up the part numbers they are different for the cylinders and pistons.
Thanks Roger.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 15, 2012, 02:48:02 pm
Finally. I thought the 330 was quads too, just couldnt remember.

Good work guys and proves 3 minds working are better then 1.   (http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr196/hypatia320/GIFs/Smileys/thumbsup.gif)

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff381/crazeyechan/1205099zhwi7s2bb3.gif)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 23, 2012, 04:42:34 pm
Pulled one of my like new poulan pro 330 off the shelf today. Pulled the epa carb stops, put on a 20" 3/8 b+c. 

Filled it up full of mix and noticed a leak. hmmmmmm  Looked over normal spots and went on to test in wood.  Kept noticing it would leak between crankcase and side of tank area in middle.
 Being this saw is as new as can be I figured tank vent had went bad setting  ???. Well that is not the case at all the dang thing fell out somewhere.  :o

Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 23, 2012, 05:57:04 pm
I drilled out the hole in tank a 15/64 and installed a different brass tank vent after pulling a 3300 apart to look at it and how OEM was.

I'll snap pics tomorrow.

OEM 330 parts for tank vent.

VALVE CHECK DUCKBILL    530026119    $1.96    
PLUG BRONZE VENT    530038264    $0.28    
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 24, 2012, 01:07:30 pm
Poulan 330 generic brass vent I had on hand  and put in compared to the oem on poulan 3300.

Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 24, 2012, 02:34:01 pm
I like your idea and thanks for the part number also.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on November 09, 2012, 09:20:08 pm
Sold one of the local firewood cutters a like new 330 with 20" 325  7T set up.

Let him test 2 330's like new, one with 325 7T and one with 3/8 7T and he liked the 325 set up and smaller 325 7 gear for being more forgiving when bar was buried.


Poulan Pro 330 IPL    http://s30387.gridserver.com/partsDiagrams/Poulan%20Pro%20330.pdf
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 09, 2012, 10:22:36 pm
Can not go wrong with a 330, it doesn't matter if it runs 3/8 or .325 they are fine saws.  Interesting though that he liked the .325 better.  I have heard some say it is smoother in the cut.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 09, 2012, 11:10:35 pm
Not because of 325 was smoother. Because the 7T 325 allowed more torque in the cut with 20" buried on the 330.

 The 330 with 3/8 7T bigger rim size with 20" buried in hardwoods would pull down easier in the cut with full bar buried.

I like a 330 with 3/8 and only a 16" bar.  No torque monsters thats for sure.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 10, 2012, 12:06:40 am
I agree they are not torque monsters but for a firewood saw they are not a bad way togo, and you are right a 20" bar buried in hardwoods would take some umph to get through.  I have a 330 and like you run a shorter bar on it.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on November 10, 2012, 12:14:22 am
I like everything about them. Nice built saw for the money and parts are pretty much dirt cheap IMO.

 I always thought they were the firewood or homeowner best bang for their buck saw when available new.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on November 15, 2012, 04:02:10 pm
I think I'm going to start using the husky tank vent set up when I run out of the brass vents on the poulans.

Here is some info from mweba Mitch on a 3450.

 Poulan Pro 3450 tank vent

    I purchased this 3450 better than a month ago from a pawn shop. Rubber isolators were shot so I ordered new and installed them. Carb cleaned and new fuel line/filter and she was up and running good. The first time I got a chance to use it, filled the tank and fuel ran out on the left hand side. There it sat til tonight. Pulled the rear handle off and the tank vent was missing. Checked the poulan site and the parts are still available but I stock the Husky tube style vent that is in the 55 and others. Some will think the following info is worthless due to oe parts being available but this conversion is an option. Besides who knows how long the oe part will be available.
    Husky number 501 8731-01



The original vent hole is approx 3/4" deep so you have some room to work.
First drill a 1/4" hole through the original vent "bucket". Due to the size of the collar on the Husky tube, the outer diameter will have to be countersunk so the tube sits flush with the exterior of the tank. Bit size is 11/32.  Tube will fit tight and if countersunk correctly, will sit flush.


Finished product. No more leaks.



Pic links went bad sorry..............................


Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on November 15, 2012, 04:05:53 pm
Husqvarna tank vent

501873101
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: fastleo151 on December 15, 2012, 06:58:33 pm
I am really starting to like my 3750, it told me it would like a minty 3450 to sit next to on the shelf though. I guess I will have to buy another saw
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 15, 2012, 07:01:16 pm
I am really starting to like my 3750, it told me it would like a minty 3450 to sit next to on the shelf though. I guess I will have to buy another saw

I have a used 3450 and a like new 330 setting on the shelves.  Whatcha got to trade or offer  ;D

Pic might be in this thread of both, not for sure.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 15, 2012, 07:02:04 pm
Yep both look to be on page 1.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 15, 2012, 07:25:54 pm
I am really starting to like my 3750, it told me it would like a minty 3450 to sit next to on the shelf though. I guess I will have to buy another saw

I know what you mean.  I have 3 of the 3450 saws right now.  I just happen to like this series of saws.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: fastleo151 on December 15, 2012, 08:02:04 pm
Kevin
Looking for anything specific?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 15, 2012, 08:28:05 pm
Kevin
Looking for anything specific?

Not really.

 I am into PP 415 425 445 475 505 jred 2077 2083 partner 610 7700 stuff right now and always putting parts  back for projects.

Just PM me what you are thinking because they are not getting used here. They are for sale local too and 1 of the PP330 left not long ago and someone wants the other 330 but funds are short with Christmas time.  Like I said I am open to trading stuff for stuff.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: ms460woodchuck on February 19, 2013, 05:13:59 pm
I'm digging Mark and W8ye I'm digging.

530030176 Piston Ring Model 3450 T1,T2,T4
   
530036176 Piston Ring Model 3750 T1 & T2 3450 T3


530071321 Piston Kit Model 3450 T1,T2,T4
   
530069549 Piston Kit Model 3750 T1 & T2, 3450 T3

530071321 Piston Kit  Poulan 330 54cc

Yep I can only find T1 T2 3750's and both have the 60cc piston. 

Thanks guys for lighting the fire today.

 So are you saying that my 3450 that I got from you is the type 3 60cc saw you are talking about? It is the saw in your pics.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on February 19, 2013, 05:44:01 pm
I'm digging Mark and W8ye I'm digging.

530030176 Piston Ring Model 3450 T1,T2,T4
   
530036176 Piston Ring Model 3750 T1 & T2 3450 T3


530071321 Piston Kit Model 3450 T1,T2,T4
   
530069549 Piston Kit Model 3750 T1 & T2, 3450 T3

530071321 Piston Kit  Poulan 330 54cc

Yep I can only find T1 T2 3750's and both have the 60cc piston. 

Thanks guys for lighting the fire today.

 So are you saying that my 3450 that I got from you is the type 3 60cc saw you are talking about? It is the saw in your pics.

I dont think the one you got from me was a type 3. The one I had was 54cc, pretty sure.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: ms460woodchuck on February 20, 2013, 10:14:03 pm
I'm digging Mark and W8ye I'm digging.

530030176 Piston Ring Model 3450 T1,T2,T4
   
530036176 Piston Ring Model 3750 T1 & T2 3450 T3


530071321 Piston Kit Model 3450 T1,T2,T4
   
530069549 Piston Kit Model 3750 T1 & T2, 3450 T3

530071321 Piston Kit  Poulan 330 54cc

Yep I can only find T1 T2 3750's and both have the 60cc piston. 

Thanks guys for lighting the fire today.

 So are you saying that my 3450 that I got from you is the type 3 60cc saw you are talking about? It is the saw in your pics.

I dont think the one you got from me was a type 3. The one I had was 54cc, pretty sure.

 Did you do the port work to the one I got from you or was it ported whenyou got it?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 21, 2013, 06:37:01 am
I'm digging Mark and W8ye I'm digging.

530030176 Piston Ring Model 3450 T1,T2,T4
   
530036176 Piston Ring Model 3750 T1 & T2 3450 T3


530071321 Piston Kit Model 3450 T1,T2,T4
   
530069549 Piston Kit Model 3750 T1 & T2, 3450 T3

530071321 Piston Kit  Poulan 330 54cc

Yep I can only find T1 T2 3750's and both have the 60cc piston. 

Thanks guys for lighting the fire today.

 So are you saying that my 3450 that I got from you is the type 3 60cc saw you are talking about? It is the saw in your pics.

I dont think the one you got from me was a type 3. The one I had was 54cc, pretty sure.

 Did you do the port work to the one I got from you or was it ported whenyou got it?

I never touched the 3300 3450 or 330 you have left. If there was port work in one it was done before I got them. Heck I never had the muffler off the 330 or 3450 and maybe the 3300 (never had a reason to).   

They all ran pretty much stock to me. Which one was it?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: ms460woodchuck on February 22, 2013, 12:36:25 am
I'm digging Mark and W8ye I'm digging.

530030176 Piston Ring Model 3450 T1,T2,T4
   
530036176 Piston Ring Model 3750 T1 & T2 3450 T3


530071321 Piston Kit Model 3450 T1,T2,T4
   
530069549 Piston Kit Model 3750 T1 & T2, 3450 T3

530071321 Piston Kit  Poulan 330 54cc

Yep I can only find T1 T2 3750's and both have the 60cc piston. 

Thanks guys for lighting the fire today.

 So are you saying that my 3450 that I got from you is the type 3 60cc saw you are talking about? It is the saw in your pics.

I dont think the one you got from me was a type 3. The one I had was 54cc, pretty sure.

 Did you do the port work to the one I got from you or was it ported whenyou got it?

I never touched the 3300 3450 or 330 you have left. If there was port work in one it was done before I got them. Heck I never had the muffler off the 330 or 3450 and maybe the 3300 (never had a reason to).   

They all ran pretty much stock to me. Which one was it?

 The 3450 that I got from you was ported. It runs a good bit better than the 330. I had the mufflers off the 330,3450 and 3300 in the first 10 minutes of being home from swapping you.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 22, 2013, 12:59:49 am

 The 3450 that I got from you was ported. It runs a good bit better than the 330. I had the mufflers off the 330,3450 and 3300 in the first 10 minutes of being home from swapping you.

I took that 3450 in trade on 372 parts from a member here.  I can ask him in PM if OK to contact him if you like.

Been awhile now so he may not even remember it.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: ms460woodchuck on February 22, 2013, 07:00:18 pm

 The 3450 that I got from you was ported. It runs a good bit better than the 330. I had the mufflers off the 330,3450 and 3300 in the first 10 minutes of being home from swapping you.

I took that 3450 in trade on 372 parts from a member here.  I can ask him in PM if OK to contact him if you like.

Been awhile now so he may not even remember it.

 Ya go ahead and ask him. I'm pretty sure I know who it is. The 3450 I have is the only one on youtube.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 22, 2013, 07:53:17 pm
If the one you got is the same one on you tube, I think you got a heck of saw. 
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: ms460woodchuck on February 22, 2013, 08:33:24 pm
If the one you got is the same one on you tube, I think you got a heck of saw. 

 I'm about 99.999999% sure it's the one...the bar is even the same.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 22, 2013, 08:35:01 pm
Nice real nice.   ;)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 22, 2013, 09:53:58 pm
 Pretty crazy I never looked for 3450 videos before and I didnt know that 3450 was a movie star.   8) 

Heck now that you know who ported it etc. I will let you contact him to find out more info.   ;)   


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1mAPCtlcac

 
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: ms460woodchuck on February 24, 2013, 08:51:09 am
 I can't wait to run this saw beside my buddies MS290. He has bigger saws but is always bragging about how much he likes his 290. A few weeks ago he was telling me how he put a 28'' bar on it and ran it through some 24'' ash and it did'nt even flinch...I just thought to myself what a dumbazz.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: ms460woodchuck on March 01, 2013, 05:16:09 pm
 I am wanting to run a 16'' 3/8 .050 K041 bar on my 330 and have had no luck finding one...can anybody have a good one to let go or can anyone provide a link on this wonderful internet where to get one. I have had no luck.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Eccentric on March 01, 2013, 06:10:49 pm
I am wanting to run a 16'' 3/8 .050 K041 bar on my 330 and have had no luck finding one...can anybody have a good one to let go or can anyone provide a link on this wonderful internet where to get one. I have had no luck.

John just recently there were a few new 3/8-.050G K041 bars on feebay.  Gotta be careful that you don't buy a 3/8LP bar however.   Many 16-20" K041/A041 bars intended for WildThing type saws are LP.

You can also use a K095 ('small Husky') bar if you modify it a bit.  Just have to oblong the adjuster holes a tad (towards the bar rail) and slot a passage from the groove to the adjuster holes (as K041 saws oil through the adjuster holes).  Did that with a Husqvarna branded .325-.058G Oregon Power Match bar for my PP330.  Used a dremel with a reinforced cutoff wheel to slot down from the groove into the adjuster holes.

Oils fine.  Had to file the stud slot just a hair as well as it was TIGHT on the studs.  Also have to 'aim' the tensioner peg so that it goes into the adjuster hole as the peg 'sags' down a bit when there isn't a bar on the saw.  A little prod with the screwdriver was all it took.

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u318/Eccentric_photo/Poulan%20Chainsaws/CAM00104_zpsfdec0617.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 01, 2013, 06:51:17 pm
I am wanting to run a 16'' 3/8 .050 K041 bar on my 330 and have had no luck finding one...can anybody have a good one to let go or can anyone provide a link on this wonderful internet where to get one. I have had no luck.

This here is a 16" K041 mount bar for Poulans.   The number on the bar is 530044556.   You can google this number and it should get help you get into something.  I forgot to add it is .050 and 3/8.

Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 01, 2013, 08:06:14 pm
I am wanting to run a 16'' 3/8 .050 K041 bar on my 330 and have had no luck finding one...can anybody have a good one to let go or can anyone provide a link on this wonderful internet where to get one. I have had no luck.

A member here sales them. The one I have bought them from in the past for years.   oldpart  http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=967

16", 60Dl, 3/8, 50 gauge, same as Oregon "Power Match", OEM solid steel bar, no silk-screen all are solid black, K041 mount $25.00 ea.

Thread.  http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/used-chainsaw-parts-online/poulanpoulan-pro-bars-oem-oregon/


Look at my 3750 youtube video and you will see bar. Also in still pics here somewhere.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 01, 2013, 08:40:16 pm
I forgot all about oldpart and the bars that he has listed.  Thanks for bringing that up again.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: ms460woodchuck on March 01, 2013, 10:11:50 pm
I am wanting to run a 16'' 3/8 .050 K041 bar on my 330 and have had no luck finding one...can anybody have a good one to let go or can anyone provide a link on this wonderful internet where to get one. I have had no luck.

John just recently there were a few new 3/8-.050G K041 bars on feebay.  Gotta be careful that you don't buy a 3/8LP bar however.   Many 16-20" K041/A041 bars intended for WildThing type saws are LP.

You can also use a K095 ('small Husky') bar if you modify it a bit.  Just have to oblong the adjuster holes a tad (towards the bar rail) and slot a passage from the groove to the adjuster holes (as K041 saws oil through the adjuster holes).  Did that with a Husqvarna branded .325-.058G Oregon Power Match bar for my PP330.  Used a dremel with a reinforced cutoff wheel to slot down from the groove into the adjuster holes.

Oils fine.  Had to file the stud slot just a hair as well as it was TIGHT on the studs.  Also have to 'aim' the tensioner peg so that it goes into the adjuster hole as the peg 'sags' down a bit when there isn't a bar on the saw.  A little prod with the screwdriver was all it took.

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u318/Eccentric_photo/Poulan%20Chainsaws/CAM00104_zpsfdec0617.jpg)

 This is what I did with my 2800,3000,3300 and my 3.3 in .325 but I cannot find a 16'' in 3/8 for my 330 with the husky lable.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 330 and poulan 3450
Post by: Eccentric on March 02, 2013, 01:52:22 am
I am wanting to run a 16'' 3/8 .050 K041 bar on my 330 and have had no luck finding one...can anybody have a good one to let go or can anyone provide a link on this wonderful internet where to get one. I have had no luck.

John just recently there were a few new 3/8-.050G K041 bars on feebay.  Gotta be careful that you don't buy a 3/8LP bar however.   Many 16-20" K041/A041 bars intended for WildThing type saws are LP.

You can also use a K095 ('small Husky') bar if you modify it a bit.  Just have to oblong the adjuster holes a tad (towards the bar rail) and slot a passage from the groove to the adjuster holes (as K041 saws oil through the adjuster holes).  Did that with a Husqvarna branded .325-.058G Oregon Power Match bar for my PP330.  Used a dremel with a reinforced cutoff wheel to slot down from the groove into the adjuster holes.

Oils fine.  Had to file the stud slot just a hair as well as it was TIGHT on the studs.  Also have to 'aim' the tensioner peg so that it goes into the adjuster hole as the peg 'sags' down a bit when there isn't a bar on the saw.  A little prod with the screwdriver was all it took.

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u318/Eccentric_photo/Poulan%20Chainsaws/CAM00104_zpsfdec0617.jpg)

 This is what I did with my 2800,3000,3300 and my 3.3 in .325 but I cannot find a 16'' in 3/8 for my 330 with the husky lable.

A few months ago there was a guy selling a bunch of 'shelf worn' NOS laminated Husky labeled ProLite 3/8-.050 16" and 18" bars on feebay.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on October 19, 2014, 06:38:46 pm
Pretty dang good day.  Sold a couple bars and file guides.  Turned the $ around into a 1998 poulan 3450 with green tank.

Yes I drove 5mins for this saw.  :D :D :D



(http://images.craigslist.org/00404_5iOxQ0JUiRe_600x450.jpg)
(http://images.craigslist.org/00U0U_eJyRquUMBoW_600x450.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 poulan 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 19, 2014, 09:16:05 pm
Nice looking saw Kevin.   Sounds like you did alright even if you did have to drive 5 minutes for it.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 20, 2014, 12:28:13 pm
The funny thing I was just showing member squarefile the 60cc 3450 project on the shelf.  Told him it would be cheaper to buy a whole parts saw then the individual parts I was needing ( all covers etc). 
Come in the house and start looking on puter and bam a runner FS.  I called, he said starts. All I needed to hear and headed over.  Cool part is seller hits auctions all the time to flip. I made sure he ran certain saws by me before listing. 

Pics above as seller listed pics. 
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on October 20, 2014, 02:38:03 pm
Just realized I had on the poulan lovers gtg shirt 2013. Guess I better go out there and see whats up with this saw and get some pics.


Did I say I liked the green tank and main reason I wanted it.  ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on October 20, 2014, 03:50:11 pm
Wow very nice under the grime. Just a 5min wipe down and a 30min check over. Only thing I might replace is the rim. Just because it shows a little wear but not wore out.

Pics loading.  From open as is to putting back together to test run.   I dont know what gas the guy put in it but boy she smoked. I pour it out for a look see in pic. Put mine in and ran it till the smoking died off.   :D
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on October 20, 2014, 04:12:34 pm
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/next084/poulantimbermaster3450030_zpsa7c3d989.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/next084/poulantimbermaster3450030_zpsa7c3d989.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/next084/poulantimbermaster3450028_zpse379ec1b.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/next084/poulantimbermaster3450028_zpse379ec1b.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/next084/poulantimbermaster3450026_zps19935429.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/next084/poulantimbermaster3450026_zps19935429.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/next084/poulantimbermaster3450024_zpsea389da6.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/next084/poulantimbermaster3450024_zpsea389da6.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/next084/poulantimbermaster3450022_zps5d4aebb9.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/next084/poulantimbermaster3450022_zps5d4aebb9.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on October 20, 2014, 04:25:06 pm
Poulan Timbermaster 3450  I had a 3750 long ago that had Timbermaster on it too.

This came out of it. Boy did it smoke. Dumped and put mine in.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/next084/poulantimbermaster3450015_zpsade35609.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/next084/poulantimbermaster3450015_zpsade35609.jpg.html)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/next084/poulantimbermaster3450018_zpsbec6f99e.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/next084/poulantimbermaster3450018_zpsbec6f99e.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/next084/poulantimbermaster3450014_zps430a6717.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/next084/poulantimbermaster3450014_zps430a6717.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/next084/poulantimbermaster3450010_zpsff2cf867.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/next084/poulantimbermaster3450010_zpsff2cf867.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/next084/poulantimbermaster3450012_zpsecb8779e.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/next084/poulantimbermaster3450012_zpsecb8779e.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/next084/poulantimbermaster3450020_zpsd815e029.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/next084/poulantimbermaster3450020_zpsd815e029.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 20, 2014, 05:17:04 pm
Is the saw a type II.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 660magnum on October 20, 2014, 06:18:21 pm
Isn't the type identifiable by the shape of the cooling fins on the cylinder besides looking at the identifier tag in the rear handle pocket?
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on October 20, 2014, 07:29:23 pm
Yep it is Jim 54cc.  No type listed I could find on the sticker but it is only a 54cc and not Type 3 60cc. But it will be in time.

Correct on fins.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on October 20, 2014, 07:32:42 pm
2 of my others in past.  60cc nearest with fins up vertical on top and  54cc furthest fin flat horizontal.


(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Mac805PP260/3450BB3750bb338637mac003.jpg)


Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 660magnum on October 20, 2014, 07:38:04 pm
With and without chain brakes may be some indicator too?

But with a 15 year old chainsaw, some things may have been swapped around over time?
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 20, 2014, 08:40:38 pm
I always forget about the fins being different on the two cylinders.   I have a couple of the 54cc 3450's and 3 of the TA 3750's.   Like you Kevin I always wanted to convert one of the 3450's over to a 3750.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 23, 2015, 05:43:54 pm
Trying to dig deeper into the poulan 3450 type 3 T3 60cc chainsaws.

So far black tank no chain brake one posted year 2000. He said recoil decal has 3.3 on it  but sticker on back is 60cc.

I was wondering if any had green tanks being that is all I am locating right now.  2 more now working on getting 1.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 25, 2015, 03:43:16 pm
Poulan 330 came in today   for a tune up. Guy said he and another cutter have close to 150 trees to cut up. 
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 25, 2015, 03:44:48 pm
Poulan 3450 I said yes to to late. $100 shipped. Someone local in TN got it.

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 25, 2015, 03:48:31 pm
Another green tank poulan 3450 a guy just finished putting back together.
Just showing green tanks are not that rare as I have read posted JMO. Heck I lost track of the ones I have owned myself.

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 25, 2015, 04:21:55 pm
Poulan 330 came in today   for a tune up. Guy said he and another cutter have close to 150 trees to cut up. 

That is a lot of trees.   Is his 330 the only saw that he has.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 25, 2015, 05:07:03 pm
Poulan 330 came in today   for a tune up. Guy said he and another cutter have close to 150 trees to cut up. 

That is a lot of trees.   Is his 330 the only saw that he has.

His only BIG saw. ;)   Other guy I dont know what his saw is. 2 saws 2 guys to split the wood.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 25, 2015, 05:09:38 pm
I remember selling that 330  it seems like a few years ago now. Pretty close to like new looking when sold. He has the front crankcase wore to bare now.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 26, 2015, 03:17:34 pm
Found the saw. Sold 2012. Back in for first time 2015.

Saw on far left with new muffler.  Noticed he lost 1 muffler bolt now and a replacement from hardware store in place.

Will grab a 2015 pic in a few.  Glad to see the saw used like they should be putting heat to the guys house.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP325/pp3303450001.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 26, 2015, 05:41:12 pm
Well found the fuel leak when on side. I was thinking the vent had come out again. If it did I decided to go Aaron's  way like the older saws in top of tank with duckbill etc and  plug hole instead of using the 372 vent I had thought about doing.

Turned out to just be old oem fuel line had hardened and shrunk where it passes through tank.

Bar oiler not working. Pulled bar cleaned rails cleaned oiler holes. Started PHO oiler works. Just clogged up bar.

Cleaned air filter, carb retune to his mix in saw and ready to go work on them trees IMO.   

Have a pic I just need to upload to PB.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on January 27, 2015, 01:09:47 pm
2012 above to 2015 brought back in (http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Projects/pp330cats%20012_zpsqzujoozi.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Projects/pp330cats%20012_zpsqzujoozi.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 660magnum on January 27, 2015, 01:18:02 pm
Needs a small dawg on the front to keep the saw off the wood?
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on January 27, 2015, 01:20:50 pm
He is like me and dont use dawgs for bucking firewood and didnt want one.  I would think a small smooth  bumper or small spike oem. Not that BIG one from OEM.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 660magnum on January 27, 2015, 01:53:08 pm
I guess "each to his own" I don't care for huge spikes. But sometimes small ones save the saw?

Some saws (372's) even have a smooth rub bar available that fits on where the spike goes. It just keeps the muffler and the oil tank back from the wood a little bit.

My Stihl 025's/MS250 have little spikes on them but the muffler still sets the bark on fire if you bury the bar up against the spike.

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on January 27, 2015, 02:23:25 pm
I put dawgs on now to protect the case.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 27, 2015, 06:24:47 pm
I like using a dawg for cutting.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on January 28, 2015, 01:08:15 am
The factory PP330 spike isn't really 'big' like the large western/redwood spikes on pro saws.  It just stuck out farther forward than the 'regular dawgs on these saws.  Looked goofy to my eyes.  It has been theorized that the long PP330 spike was installed to allow a 54cc saw to wear a 22" b/c (for marketing purposes) and be able to run it (as there's only 19-20" or so of usable bar with that funky spike).  I put the shorter spike on the PP330 I had (and swapped out the 22" bar for a 20").  The PP S-380 that I'm working on now has the shorter spike already.  It's a yellow tank saw.  Probably earlier production than the PP330 that I had.  It also has an HDA137 rather than the HDA164 that my PP330 had on it (until I swapped on an NOS HDA137).

I run dawgs on all of my saws except for most of my tophandles (got a factory dawg on one of my S25-CVA's).  Only have 'big'/western dawgs on a few bigger saws that I actually use on bigger firs and the occasional redwood (and on some big old monsters for show/nostalgia).  Husky IPL's show smooth bumper plates as optional equipment.  I had a Jonsered 630 that had a smooth aluminum bumper plate on it.  Good idea for protecting the case.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 28, 2015, 01:07:44 pm
From my readings so far it seems that 380  come with 137.  Havent read where a 164  came on one?   

I wish I would have kept closer attention to the carb deal as alot of this series 330 3450 3750 have passed through my hands.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 28, 2015, 07:53:01 pm
From my readings so far it seems that 380  come with 137.  Havent read where a 164  came on one?   

I wish I would have kept closer attention to the carb deal as alot of this series 330 3450 3750 have passed through my hands.

It might depend on what year they were made as to what carb came on them.    I have a bunch of these saws and will have to take a look at them.    I know the 3750 that I welded up that you had at one time Kevin had a 164 on it when I got it.   I had a NOS 137 and put it on there when I finished putting it back together.

I have been making some progress on my 3500 which uses a HDA 49 and will post some pics when done.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 28, 2015, 08:17:28 pm
From my readings so far it seems that 380  come with 137.  Havent read where a 164  came on one?   

I wish I would have kept closer attention to the carb deal as alot of this series 330 3450 3750 have passed through my hands.

It might depend on what year they were made as to what carb came on them.    I have a bunch of these saws and will have to take a look at them.    I know the 3750 that I welded up that you had at one time Kevin had a 164 on it when I got it.   I had a NOS 137 and put it on there when I finished putting it back together.

I have been making some progress on my 3500 which uses a HDA 49 and will post some pics when done.

Post your 137 info in the 164 137 carb thread. Trying to see if there is anything to the Japan and Mexico made ones.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: magnumfloyd on March 04, 2015, 11:01:57 am
Don't want to start a new thread but how do you remove the worm gear and flywheel on this series saw. I tried a gear puller on the fly wheel and just chipped it. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 04, 2015, 11:31:30 am
The worm gear requires a puller that threads on to the worm gear itself and then pulled off.   There is a part number for it but do not know where it is right now.

The way I remove the flywheel..    Take the nut and washer off.   Put the nut back on until it is flush with the end of the crank.
I then took a bolt the size of the nut and cut it off so that it was short enouph to sit on top of the nut and the end of the crank shaft.   I use that to hammer on so I do not mess up the threads of the crank.
I then put a screw driver under the flywheel and apply a little pressure and start tapping the end of the crank with just a medium blow from a hammer.   You may have to put the cut off bolt back into place, because  it will fall off but take your time and the flywheel will all of a sudden brake loose.   You will know because the screw driver will move.   
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 04, 2015, 01:41:04 pm
poulan 330 3450 etc worm gear puller. 530031115 and about $4
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 04, 2015, 01:44:12 pm
Puller in bottom right of pic = silver with worm gear inside it.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/pp365anflowers007.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 04, 2015, 01:55:33 pm
Hey I was just curious  Kevin do you remove the fly wheel in a similar fashion or do you have a different method.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on March 04, 2015, 01:59:15 pm
Hey I was just curious  Kevin do you remove the fly wheel in a similar fashion or do you have a different method.

I am thinking these poulans I just knock the end of very center of crank and they pop off.  Some super stuck ones I had to soak both sides at crank with PB blaster penetrant. Let set over night if didnt work on next try. Most came off then.

I have done your way too in past.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: magnumfloyd on March 04, 2015, 02:47:28 pm
Great so another dilemma on this series saw special tools. All I want to do is replace the seals as preventive maintenance but that's not going to happen now.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 04, 2015, 02:51:57 pm
Lot of guys make a worm gear puller out of some kind of pipe with inner threads.  But for $4 on a order I got the tool.

Some heat them up and can pry off by both sides. Not me. Some cut them off and then need to buy new gear. So that $4 spent looks real good. ;)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: magnumfloyd on March 04, 2015, 05:04:35 pm
I would by the tool for $4 the one I found was $70
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 04, 2015, 05:09:49 pm
Great so another dilemma on this series saw special tools. All I want to do is replace the seals as preventive maintenance but that's not going to happen now.

Well if your going to be working on your own saws I think 4 bucks is pretty cheap.   

If I am going to save myself 100 bucks by replacing the crank seals my self I sure am not going to whine about a 4 dollar tool.

You know it does not matter what your working on sooner or later your going to have to buy a tool to do the work right.

Have you ever pulled the crank seals on one of these before and how do you plan on doing that.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 04, 2015, 05:18:14 pm
I would by the tool for $4 the one I found was $70

I just looked.   Jack's small engine 4.91.    Sears parts direct 4.65.   Google the part number.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: magnumfloyd on March 04, 2015, 06:16:35 pm
No I haven't done the seals on this model saw. I did my 3400 and stihl 026 with less hassle though. I'm not opposed on buying tools either.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 04, 2015, 06:58:40 pm
Magnum it does not matter what make saw your working on they all have their own quirks, it is just part of the chainsaw world.   I think the Poulans are the easiest to work on.   Once you get the worm gear off then the seals should be a walk in the park for you since you have done some seals before.    It will be worth the effort and that worm gear puller is good for a lot of different model Poulans.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on March 04, 2015, 09:49:27 pm
I ordered the worm puller for use on the PP380 that I'm changing seals on.  It's cheap enough that I don't need to screw around with improvised worm removal shenanigans.  Also ordered an extra pair of seals for the next one of these that comes along.  Should have ordered an extra intake boot (along with the one I ordered for this saw) too....

Flywheels on these and other Poulans seem to come off pretty easy (certainly compared to some old Macs and Husqvarnas that I've worked on).  I get my kid to grab a thick fin on the FW with some pliers and lift up while I hold a jack screw from a puller against the crank snout and give that jack screw a whack or two with a hammer.  FW pops right off.  I've done the job myself many times too...
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 05, 2015, 12:04:21 pm
I would by the tool for $4 the one I found was $70

Could you please post the link of the $70 one.   :o :o :o :o  Only cost $4-$5  ;)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 05, 2015, 12:07:38 pm
No I haven't done the seals on this model saw. I did my 3400 and stihl 026 with less hassle though. I'm not opposed on buying tools either.

Ever replace the piston in 3400?

Replace the piston in the 3400 and 330 and let us know the easier one without rednecking a special tool.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on March 05, 2015, 02:26:33 pm
My parts from Tulsa Engine Warehouse came in yesterday.  4 very fresh looking crank seals, an intake boot, and the $5 oil pump worm drive puller.  Good stuff.  I should have ordered another intake boot for safekeeping.

Some things are indeed easier/less complicated on the 3400-4000 series.  The pressed piston setup sure isn't one of them though.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 05, 2015, 02:28:08 pm
My parts from Tulsa Engine Warehouse came in yesterday.  4 very fresh looking crank seals, an intake boot, and the $5 oil pump worm drive puller.  Good stuff.  I should have ordered another intake boot for safekeeping.

Some things are indeed easier/less complicated on the 3400-4000 series.  The pressed piston setup sure isn't one of them though.

You caught onto what I was getting at. ;)


Good deal on the seals too. 
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: nenicu on March 05, 2015, 03:52:12 pm
 60 cc Poulan[3750] on Ebay now, for anyone interested.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 12, 2015, 01:19:22 pm
Just laughing to myself whoever suggested the green tank 3450 was rare. The last 3 out of 4 I have seen for sale have been green tanks.  2 out of 3 in the last 2 days.  :D

I just bought another one of those rare 3450 not! as is PHO. Cant remember how many green tanks ones I have had myself.  I think it may out number my black tanks though.

Small early dawg too.  ;D

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/s526x296/10945405_10205366691718701_6126658056084565539_n.jpg?oh=559095efbd7ab2f131c2d2858d6140b0&oe=55B89664&__gda__=1438273949_d1f0eb67ad71c0d2c84c0b90ecf7151f)


Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: farmboy on March 12, 2015, 08:44:00 pm
Check the muffler.  Isn't that an early one Type 1?.
Shep
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 12, 2015, 08:59:08 pm
When it gets here. Not a front exhaust muffler, if that is what you are asking.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Hoggwood on March 12, 2015, 10:01:03 pm
My parts from Tulsa Engine Warehouse came in yesterday.  4 very fresh looking crank seals, an intake boot, and the $5 oil pump worm drive puller.  Good stuff.  I should have ordered another intake boot for safekeeping.

Some things are indeed easier/less complicated on the 3400-4000 series.  The pressed piston setup sure isn't one of them though.

Aaron, et al.,

Am I correct in thinking the intake boot for a 335 #530027218 (small)  is NLA?  I would like to pick up one from tewarehouse if they are in fact still available but under a superceeded part number (that I haven't found). I see that the 330/380 is #530030202 and Tulsa stocks this one but I gather this is in fact the larger and won't fit up on the 335? 

I only have the 335 in the Pro series so I've no physical comparison between the two. I  pulled the trigger on some parts for my s25da but ended up getting superceeded parts for a Poulan Pro s25da and some don't actually fit the original saw.  To that, I am hoping maybe there is an alternate number for the boot.

Thanks for the help guys.

Cory
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 13, 2015, 11:55:26 am
poulan small intake boot NLA, the bigger one can be made to work with some grinding and work. 

Poulan intake boots  http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/poulan-intakes/

There is a thread here on small boot 2800 being taken to bigger boot. Poulan 2800 thread.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Hoggwood on March 13, 2015, 05:24:28 pm
Thank you.

That is the info I was looking for.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: farmboy on March 13, 2015, 06:14:56 pm
When it gets here. Not a front exhaust muffler, if that is what you are asking.
Yes.  Thought it was one I saw on Ebay recently it was front ex.
Shep
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 13, 2015, 07:32:12 pm
When it gets here. Not a front exhaust muffler, if that is what you are asking.
Yes.  Thought it was one I saw on Ebay recently it was front ex.
Shep

Not a ebay saw. I saw those 2 also. But they are asking more and what I sell for. 
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on March 13, 2015, 08:29:06 pm
The yellow tank PP Super 380 I'm working on has the front exit muffler.  First one of those I've seen in person on a saw of this series.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 13, 2015, 08:32:09 pm
Mt 2nd 3750 had it. It was the newest of the 3750's I had too.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 13, 2015, 09:14:39 pm
The 365 and 3500 all had the front exit from what I have seen.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on March 14, 2015, 11:44:15 am
I have 365 and 3500 with side exits. 
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on March 14, 2015, 11:49:44 am
Just to make sure we are all on same page. This is the front exit poulan muffler we are talking about.

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 660magnum on March 14, 2015, 11:50:55 am
Looks like the muffler on my 1997 3500
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on March 14, 2015, 12:02:49 pm
Info on the 3450 I am waiting on.

-

Saw started and ran 2 months ago, I havent started it since...buying as is..no guarantees....Air filter knob turns but wont come off..dont know why...no time to check it.

-

Never heard of that problem before. The AF knob turns but wont loosen for removal.  Guessing the metal insert must have let go. 

Anyone?
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on March 14, 2015, 02:53:45 pm
Info on the 3450 I am waiting on.

-

Saw started and ran 2 months ago, I havent started it since...buying as is..no guarantees....Air filter knob turns but wont come off..dont know why...no time to check it.

-

Never heard of that problem before. The AF knob turns but wont loosen for removal.  Guessing the metal insert must have let go. 

Anyone?


I'm guessing that either the threaded insert inside the knob has broke loose (like you're thinking)......or maybe the stud in the AF mounting bulkhead has broken loose and is turning.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on March 14, 2015, 03:01:50 pm
Just to make sure we are all on same page. This is the front exit poulan muffler we are talking about.

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=356.0;attach=12263;image)


Yep.   That's the muffler on the PP S-380 I'm working on.

(http://www.ereplacementparts.com/images/part_545006002.gif)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u318/Eccentric_photo/Poulan%20Chainsaws/CAM00036.jpg)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u318/Eccentric_photo/Poulan%20Chainsaws/CAM00032.jpg)

This is the side outlet type that was on the PP330 I had a while back.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 14, 2015, 07:16:28 pm
I have 365 and 3500 with side exits. 

I have never seen a side exit on a 365 or 3500.    I will have to start looking closer when I see a picture.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on March 17, 2015, 12:41:35 pm
Info on the 3450 I am waiting on.

-

Saw started and ran 2 months ago, I havent started it since...buying as is..no guarantees....Air filter knob turns but wont come off..dont know why...no time to check it.

-

Never heard of that problem before. The AF knob turns but wont loosen for removal.  Guessing the metal insert must have let go. 

Anyone?


I'm guessing that either the threaded insert inside the knob has broke loose (like you're thinking)......or maybe the stud in the AF mounting bulkhead has broken loose and is turning.

The brass threaded insert that is inside the knob broke loose.   I just pulled straight back and AF cover came off insert leaving it on the stud. 

3450 is missing type sticker.  But is is a 54cc with hand guard, green tank and small spike.  Has Timbermaster on clutch cover.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 18, 2015, 05:50:53 pm
Pulled the new arrival over today. Felt good psi. So I checked impulse and fuel lines best I could. Looked at intake boot best I could by just eying everything and using forced air to clean off.

Fill up mix and bar oil. 

Checked carb settings and set fat.

Fired up and oiler working great. Could tell letting off throttle it took time to come down. Thought hmmm air leak somewhere.  Did the side to side roll overs  nothing. 

So went back in and loosened intake clamp to look under it with everything still attached. yep sure nuff tear right under clamp.   So then I pulled muffler to see how bad she was and she had started to score on the side. Not bad and reusable.

But now this saw will become my 60cc 3450 instead of my other 3450 I just got before this one with perfect p+c that needs carb rebuilt.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 18, 2015, 08:58:59 pm
So do you already have the p/c to convert it over to 60cc.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 18, 2015, 09:01:01 pm
So do you already have the p/c to convert it over to 60cc.

I had that on  3450 before these last 2 I got.  It was a parts saw 3450 with black tank with like new 60cc p+c. Missing all covers and top handle.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 18, 2015, 09:03:36 pm
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/pp5020av330060cc010_zps6fb55933.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/pp5020av330060cc007_zpsc0b35649.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 18, 2015, 09:40:09 pm
That should make a great running saw when your done.   I know I sure like those 3750's.    I have never found a 3450 60cc saw yet.   I do keep and eye out for one though.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 19, 2015, 12:07:52 pm
This 3450 that had 60cc topend wasnt a type 3 going by sticker on the tank.  Maybe the tank or the topend has been replaced in the past. Dont know but feel lucky getting the top as a bonus.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 20, 2015, 03:18:22 pm
If everything on order comes in.   I will have enough seals set back for 5 saws both sides.

http://www.ordertree.com/

seals  530019146

gasket set  530069487

big intake boot  530030202

ring 530030176

circlip retainers  530015697

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 22, 2015, 12:21:03 pm
I forget to add  60cc ring 530036176 to my order. I ordered 2 54cc for extras.  I am thinking I used my last 2 60cc rings already. Hoping 1 still out there.  Know the used 1 on the piston is there. Guess I can check it.

Mowers4u has the oem rings for $2.60 plus $3something ship.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 11, 2015, 05:07:46 pm
Grabbed a pic while messing with the new 3.0 and pp475. Tried to show the rip right under intake clamp. But it didnt come out.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/p3450x3p30p475%20004_zps9d7flwth.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/415/p3450x3p30p475%20004_zps9d7flwth.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 11, 2015, 06:26:36 pm
You have been busy.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on May 11, 2015, 07:37:02 pm
When Poulan upsized the passage in the intake boots for this series they should have also made the flange on the carb end more substantial.  Looking at that end of both boots, it's easy to see that the smaller boot (for the earlier saws) has more sealing area. 

The larger boot has precious little flat sealing surface between the inner passage and the notches for the bolts.  There also just plain ain't much flange left on that end of the boot on the large passage version (since they didn't make the flange bigger).  Not much left there to hold the boot in place and keep that end from squirming out of alignment (compared to the original boot design).

I understand why certain dimensions couldn't be altered (because the spacing of the boot clamp/carb box/boot/carb plate/gasket/carb thru-bolts is dictated by the spacing of the carb body holes).  They should have either changed the design of the intake track..............or just left the boot size alone.  Rant over....... 8)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 13, 2015, 04:57:18 pm
Back 3450 in pic done. Just carb like I thought after using it on the land last year cutting. 
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 16, 2015, 01:07:36 pm
poulan 3450 #3 right now on hand.

Wow where to start. Someone in TN cobbled this ole boy.  They put a new looking 3450 piston in backward to start. That fubarred it over time (beat or wore locating ring pin and allowed ring to go 360 degree around piston) . IMO the reason for the scuffs on it.

Intake boot had 2 tears at mounting flange ears and a rip on top under clamp and under bottom of boot under clamp. Also more reasons for scuffing piston.

Then this saw might have been one of those with carb issues as it had a smaller HDA 49 carb on it from the earlier saws.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2171372BB372/3450x3-3.0%20008_zps7ndifkwd.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2171372BB372/3450x3-3.0%20008_zps7ndifkwd.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2171372BB372/3450x3-3.0%20010_zpse5wipew4.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2171372BB372/3450x3-3.0%20010_zpse5wipew4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 16, 2015, 04:13:35 pm
Didnt someone else here just mention they had a saw in this series with piston backwards?  Thinking no damage though.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on May 16, 2015, 04:25:56 pm
I remember reading something about that in another thread here.  Can't remember which thread however........
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 17, 2015, 04:09:59 pm
Raining out soooooooo  put the 60cc 3450 together. 

Never seen a project go so smooth putting it together.  Took the piston out of other project saw. Pulled ring even though it looked somewhat new just like the piston is.  Went to put on a new ring out of my parts and I was like hmmmm it came out of poulan bin but could tell not going to go over. Duh ordered 2 54cc rings too and had to find my 2 60cc rings I ordered later in other poulan bin.  Now all rings in 1 bin. ;)

Put new boot and known good 164 carb that was on my #3 badboy as a test carb.

Went with a thicker O.D. fuel line with same I.D. still. Hate how the oem size line when starts to shrink can seep mix.  Little harder to pull though but should be worth it. in my eyes.

She runs.
Started it let idle quick blip let idle. Done for now.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2171372BB372/60cc3450%20002_zpsft0y9zia.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2171372BB372/60cc3450%20002_zpsft0y9zia.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2171372BB372/60cc3450%20004_zpsfstgc4yt.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2171372BB372/60cc3450%20004_zpsfstgc4yt.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 17, 2015, 08:44:20 pm
That should make a great firewood saw when done.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 18, 2015, 07:01:15 pm
Still have this super nice crankcase and tank that started all this 3450 projects. 

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2171372BB372/p60cc%20008_zpsc0crfkax.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2171372BB372/p60cc%20008_zpsc0crfkax.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 18, 2015, 07:02:57 pm
Ran the 60cc 3450 with 3/8 20" bar buried in 19"-20" today and in some smaller 16".   Good to go.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2171372BB372/p60cc%20006_zpsr9vccffc.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2171372BB372/p60cc%20006_zpsr9vccffc.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2171372BB372/p60cc%20004_zps0fgnaped.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2171372BB372/p60cc%20004_zps0fgnaped.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 660magnum on May 18, 2015, 09:37:02 pm
Looks good
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 18, 2015, 11:47:53 pm
Looks good.  How do you think it runs for a 60cc open port saw?   I have always been impressed with them myself.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 19, 2015, 01:16:14 pm
I  was going to try and put the 3500 365 air filter set up, air filter cover and cylinder cover on this 60cc 3450.  I like the looks of lower set up. Yeah I know stupid.  ;) :D
But after seeing I would have to grind the heck out of the 3500 365 air filter air inlet to carb I decided not too.    The hole is for 49 carb and the 164 137 is way bigger.   Just didnt want to impede the air flow getting into the bigger carb.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 19, 2015, 01:20:12 pm
Roger, always thought the open port 60cc saws run and HANDLE real good.

Remember I owned a like new 3750 BB and and a like new 262xp together and would use in the woods at same time with friends. We both liked the 3750 better then the 262.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/Kev20101670.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 19, 2015, 01:24:57 pm
Just comparing the smaller hda 49 to the bigger hda 164 137

49 Venturi 12.7mm
164 Venturi 16.66mm
137 Venturi 16.61mm

49 IPL http://wem.walbro.com/walbro/product2.asp?Series=HDA&partnum=HDA-49-1

164 IPL http://wem.walbro.com/walbro/product2.asp?Series=HDA&partnum=HDA-164-1

137 IPL http://wem.walbro.com/walbro/product2.asp?Series=HDA&partnum=HDA-137-1
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 660magnum on May 19, 2015, 04:44:50 pm
The HDA-48 is readily available for Zenoah G-62's and is 15.8mm

The bigger consideration is the arms. I have one if you want to look at it.

(http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/863/010/828/828010863_125.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 20, 2015, 01:17:26 pm
The HDA-48 is readily available for Zenoah G-62's and is 15.8mm

The bigger consideration is the arms. I have one if you want to look at it.



Someday when I get caught up with spring crap. Fishing vacations are starting too. Finally  ;D

Might be a good replacement for a bolt on for the smaller 49.  If it can clear smaller intake. 
Also maybe a replacement for guys with bad bigger164 instead of using the smaller 49.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Hedgerow on June 26, 2015, 04:06:03 pm
Just got a 3450..
My first Poulan.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 26, 2015, 04:32:00 pm
Just got a 3450..
My first Poulan.

Nice 54cc saws and can go 60cc with top swap. 

So ya going to work it over?
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 27, 2015, 02:32:45 pm
Just got a 3450..
My first Poulan.

Good saw.   I believe you will be happy with the performance of that saw.   Congrats on finding that.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Hedgerow on June 29, 2015, 12:58:47 pm
Just got a 3450..
My first Poulan.

Nice 54cc saws and can go 60cc with top swap. 

So ya going to work it over?
Not sure.. What do you think?
It's a solid runner right now, but I haven't got any timing #'s from it yet. Or really looked it over much. Just fired it and tuned it, then made a few cuts.
Is it an open port saw?
I do know it currently piddles oil all over the stool.
lol.
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Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 29, 2015, 03:25:36 pm
54cc and 60cc open. Pics here some where on the transfers. 54cc straight up and 60cc swooped back.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on June 30, 2015, 10:57:18 pm
Nice clean looking saw.   Like cut4fun pointed out the 60cc saws do run pretty good.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 660magnum on June 30, 2015, 11:16:04 pm
I've run a couple of Kevin's 3750's in the past and they are very nice 20" saws.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on July 01, 2015, 11:53:29 pm
I've always thought that folks put too much stock in a closed port design over any open port design (and in particular, a 'quad port' type closed port type over every other design).  Several of my favorite saw designs have open port transfers.  Poulan 4200-8500 CounterVibes.  82cc McCulloch 10-series (SP80/81, PM850/800/805/8200, DE80).  SXL-925 Homelites.  All of those saw families have reputations for being strong work saws.

Most either have four open ports (one 'divider' bisecting the open transfer port on each side) or six open ports (two dividers on each side).  I'm not talking about racing saws or being the fastest through a cant (although guys have had success doing that with some of these designs.........notably the big CounterVibe Poulans). 

Talking about running a bar on the 'large side' of the range for the saw's displacement class without struggling.  At the time these saws were produced, closed port designs were already in use in other models.  There's little new under the sun.  Piston port engines aren't a 'newer' or 'more modern' design than reed valve engines.  They're both OLD designs (as are rotary/disc valve 2-strokes).  Not at all saying that open port jugs are better than closed port designs.  Just that the closed port designs aren't the only game in town when it comes to making power.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Hedgerow on July 02, 2015, 10:39:33 am
I've always thought that folks put too much stock in a closed port design over any open port design (and in particular, a 'quad port' type closed port type over every other design).  Several of my favorite saw designs have open port transfers.  Poulan 4200-8500 CounterVibes.  82cc McCulloch 10-series (SP80/81, PM850/800/805/8200, DE80).  SXL-925 Homelites.  All of those saw families have reputations for being strong work saws.

Most either have four open ports (one 'divider' bisecting the open transfer port on each side) or six open ports (two dividers on each side).  I'm not talking about racing saws or being the fastest through a cant (although guys have had success doing that with some of these designs.........notably the big CounterVibe Poulans). 

Talking about running a bar on the 'large side' of the range for the saw's displacement class without struggling.  At the time these saws were produced, closed port designs were already in use in other models.  There's little new under the sun.  Piston port engines aren't a 'newer' or 'more modern' design than reed valve engines.  They're both OLD designs (as are rotary/disc valve 2-strokes).  Not at all saying that open port jugs are better than closed port designs.  Just that the closed port designs aren't the only game in town when it comes to making power.

The "nothing new under the sun" is very true..
I Got a chance to actually put the Poulan to work Tuesday. Cut cedars with it. It behaved well and runs a 20" w/3/8" cutters fine.
Oils well also.
At 54cc, it could be put in the same class as the popular 029/290, but I'd give it a slight performance edge, along with a whole lot simpler design to work on.
I opened the muffler up a touch, and didn't see any earth shattering improvements. As it wasn't really restricted too bad from the factory.
Still rather quiet.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 02, 2015, 10:54:22 am
Mufflers IMO just open up baffle on both sides inside muffler and remove the tube inside muffler. All I do.  If the stuff is still in there.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on July 02, 2015, 01:51:13 pm
Mufflers IMO just open up baffle on both sides inside muffler and remove the tube inside muffler. All I do.  If the stuff is still in there.

Same here.  That tube is quite restrictive.  Cut the support tab loose on the inside end, grab it with pliers, and twist it out.  Open up the hole in the can to more closely match the deflector and you're golden.  I didn't bother modifying the front-outlet type that's on Jon's 380.  Seemed to breathe OK as is.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 30, 2015, 12:29:06 pm
@ms460woodchuck   

Poulan 330 3450 clutch and drum.

Drum  OEM 530048083  is now NLA new.  Wasnt earlier this year. Them  @#%& :o   Some under same part number first listed new on ebay still.
Use Oregon rim set up and swap to 3/8 rim  14987 or DOP34254XPO 

3 shoe  530049418 ASSY-CLUTCH USD 10.62 Plus shipping

2 shoe 530014161 ASSY-CLUTCH USD 8.21   "  "

2 shoe spring 530027160 SPRING-CLUTCH USD 2.37


Thread http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/poulan-clutch/
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 02, 2015, 11:01:55 am
 @Drew_Uth  post 157 3450 piston that was run backwards page 16
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 13, 2015, 04:59:43 pm


and another one with green tank and small dawg I brought home today while out eating supper tonight.   ::)

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: The Ripper on November 13, 2015, 07:10:56 pm
Looks to be in decent shape and what I want to know is what type of restaurant serves Poulans to go ;D
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 13, 2015, 07:15:31 pm
Looks to be in decent shape and what I want to know is what type of restaurant serves Poulans to go ;D

Included a stop off into the round trip today while riding around with wife with promise of dinner.  = smooth   ;D

Muffler cover **** around 1 bolt area, missing 1 muffler bolt. Started up fine. Chain trash, bar might be OK. Top cover melted some where the left side shown due to muffler bolt was missing so halves were apart there.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 15, 2015, 04:13:58 pm
After working I took a break to check it closer. Fueled up and appears tenk vent missing from area she leaks down from. Put bar oil in and nothing coming out yet. So few needs to look at.

Also took a pic of the vanguard chain on it. Got every penny out of this chain with what appears to be 30-40 degree cutters.

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 16, 2015, 03:15:45 pm
Bought this 3450 from unknown person to me. I was told runs good ready to go.  I didnt care as long as it had good PSI. 

Good thing.  :o    P+C look like new with witnness lines still on piston. But when I went in to see why oiler wasnt working.  Found that plus some.  :P  Just wow how this thing even started when the guy was showing it.

Also it might be a seal leak at bottom plus the tank vent leak. Cant really tell on the seal for sure till fix the tank vent to make sure it isnt just running down.

Have pics to upload later.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 16, 2015, 08:01:48 pm
Reason for oiler not working.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Projects/p3450x4%20002_zpsxj4ofwx8.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Projects/p3450x4%20002_zpsxj4ofwx8.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Projects/p3450x4%20001_zpsnnxqo5ei.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Projects/p3450x4%20001_zpsnnxqo5ei.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 16, 2015, 08:05:06 pm
Lot of carbon in exhaust outlet, but piston looks great shape with witness lines still.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Projects/p3450x4%20006_zpspqa9esxe.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Projects/p3450x4%20006_zpspqa9esxe.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Projects/p3450x4%20012_zpst4uyvdr5.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Projects/p3450x4%20012_zpst4uyvdr5.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Projects/p3450x4%20010_zpseoawomuh.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Projects/p3450x4%20010_zpseoawomuh.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 16, 2015, 08:07:20 pm
and the big surprise I found behind the oiler.

Good thing I bought this and not someone needing it for firewood  right now as it was listed.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Projects/p3450x4%20004_zpsajslqu4s.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Projects/p3450x4%20004_zpsajslqu4s.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Projects/p3450x4%20008_zpslshqhbiq.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Projects/p3450x4%20008_zpslshqhbiq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: ms460woodchuck on November 16, 2015, 09:20:51 pm
 How in the hell does this happen and how did it run?
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 16, 2015, 10:01:04 pm
How in the hell does this happen and how did it run?

Got me.  Guessing that seal in the oiler must have saved it some how.   

Just wild it was sold as good runner ready to go.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on November 16, 2015, 11:36:09 pm
Carbon in the exhaust is from the bar oil it was eating.  Probably will smoke until the remaining oil is fluhed out of the crankcase/bearings and muffler.

Looks like he was running used motor oil for bar oil.  Yuck.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on November 16, 2015, 11:45:57 pm
Dump the bar oil and it was bar oil not black like used oil.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on November 17, 2015, 12:03:41 am
Might have been a previous owner... ..or this one might have changed his mind about running waste oil...
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 17, 2015, 09:24:07 am
Tank is pretty dang clean too.
Nothing black and coated inside tank like one I worked on for a guy that I had come using used oil.

Who knows dont matter  now anyways.  I just figure it had something to do with the bad crank seal under oiler.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 04, 2016, 01:50:04 pm
Nope hand guard. Some of the 3750 I had had green brake handle brake band clutch covers.

Look for 330 380 in yellow and 3750 for green ones.  I have a yellow one here.   Some 365 too in yellow.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Tractorsaw1 on January 04, 2016, 01:54:24 pm
Yes sir, I have a yellow, not a green.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 16, 2016, 12:01:19 pm
Well today I had a bit of time before getting ready for Eldora Kings Royal sprint car races tonight. Thank you son  ;D

Anyhow when last put away bad pto seal and oil pump.

Started there and inspected the crank bearing. Didnt like the up down movement I seen or appeared to be seeing in the outer race part in the bearing pocket of case.

So then I checked the tank for the gas leak. Off comes the tank and the typical duckbill valve and brass breather deal missing.

Then I thought hmmm what about the topend. Looking through ports looked new.  Pulled top and she was new. Got a little laugh too.

Tried to clean crud off top off piston to show why.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2100/p3450%20002_zps6wpeugap.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2100/p3450%20002_zps6wpeugap.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2100/p3450%20003_zps6sb3yamt.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2100/p3450%20003_zps6sb3yamt.jpg.html)




Glad I caught that the linkage was broken off on the other 3450 tank before installing it on another saw too.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2100/p3450%20005_zpsyhitcrbk.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2100/p3450%20005_zpsyhitcrbk.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2100/p3450%20008_zpsepwzzkrj.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2100/p3450%20008_zpsepwzzkrj.jpg.html)





Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 16, 2016, 12:36:31 pm
So I guess the piston was backwards.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 16, 2016, 01:05:35 pm
So I guess the piston was backwards.

Yep. 2nd 3450 in a row like that.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on July 23, 2016, 04:05:08 pm
Maybe there was a drunk on the line in the Poulan factory.....
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 28, 2016, 06:52:22 pm
Pulled the piston off the donor 3450 and zing there went the circlip. Thought to myself. This is how it is going to be today I bet.  :P

Checking the 3450 crankcase I thought was ready on shelf. Guessed wrong. I seen the oiler seal was torn. So I pulled it and it was packed full of oily fines. Thinking something could have gotten to crank seal. I decided to check the seals for leaks.

Did my redneck seal check. pto seal was good but leaking behind the flywheel seal.
So pulled flywheel. After having to soak it with pb blaster several times.

Pulled flywheel and did my redneck seal test to show you how again when no cylinder is on and you can do a pressure test.

Redneck crank seal test



Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 01, 2016, 06:41:52 pm
Poulan pro 330 with 325 7T 20" dropped off today with torn apart rubber av's. Which fubarred the coil spring one in the front. Still going to try and reuse it for him.
Surprised the intake boot isnt hurt so far.  Havent pulled the cylinder end to see if ripped under the clamp area.



Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 01, 2016, 08:20:39 pm
Needs a small dawg on the front to keep the saw off the wood?

I offered him a small dawg today. But he said nope dont like the for bucking firewood.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on September 02, 2016, 01:37:42 pm
lower rubber av's 530042080
lower front left coil av 530069384


Pulled cylinder end boot and it wasnt ripped apart. Amazed.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 03, 2016, 02:10:33 pm
All the rubber av's busted through. Tore a impulse line, fubbared front coil av. Amazed it didnt rip the boot. I pulled it and checked.
New fuel line I use that seats around the opening way better then the smaller OD lines.


I had 2hrs in this and charged the guy $65 for parts and labor. ;)


 
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 03, 2016, 06:41:12 pm
You gave that guy a deal.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 04, 2016, 04:53:31 pm
You gave that guy a deal.

Picked up today on my Sunday hrs. LOL  Very happy camper.  Said the saw hasnt run like it does now for over a year. ;)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on September 10, 2016, 04:24:32 pm
Did you check the carb flange end of the boot?  On the bigger boots, that end is fragile and prone to leaks from what I've seen.  The flange end of the smaller boots is more substantial.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 10, 2016, 06:10:29 pm
Yep was all good to go. Nice running saw once tuned again and parts replaced. Sold it to him back in 2012.  Road hard put up wet and he admits it.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on September 10, 2016, 06:45:38 pm
Great saws.  Not perfect, but no design is.  I wish the 3400-400 series had the gear driven oil pump from these saws (plus the manual oiler) instead of the pulse driven unit.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 13, 2016, 03:52:56 pm
Just got this type 1 poulan 3450 54cc today. With small dawg and front muffler exit like I like.  Like new oem chain and bar.

Guess the other 2 on bench #2 move further back on the list.



Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 13, 2016, 05:05:41 pm
Dumped the mix that was in it. Put my KL200 Klotz Original in it at 32:1.  Pulled the red and blue limiters. Set carb to a basic setting.  Popped first pull and then    8) 

Going to replace what looks like original fuel line showing shrinkage going through tank and replace the original looking impulse line. Just for precautionary sake.

She ran real good just testing.   ;D


First one of these I had come in with the mesh filter instead of the flocked ones.

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 24, 2016, 04:20:33 pm
Just got a nice 330 380 crankcase in. See why they gave up on it out west. 

The worm gear has been smashed all the way around trying to removed it with pliers guessing. Even see dents in the seal where they tried to pry remove etc.
 I tried even with better judgement knew better tried to force the oem puller on enough to pull it. All that did was break part of the first thread off my puller.

Used puller on a 3450 gear to make sure I didnt ruin it and it was still good to go.

Now to see if I can cut this smashed gear enough to remove. Any other ideas?
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 25, 2016, 07:08:01 pm
Received the poulan 330 crankcase someone wrote off. I see why now. They smashed the heck out of the worm gear trying to get it off and messed up the pto seal. Otherwise like new.
I tried to force my oem worm puller onto the smashed worm gear and I knew it was a mistake. But had to try. All that did was pull part of the first thread off the puller. I finally decided to go with the dremel and ready for new worm gear and seal.
Used my puller on another saw to make sure I didnt ruin it. Still works. Good worm gear on LEFT the smashed one on 330 on RIGHT.

Dremel used on the ruined one. OEM puller on RIGHT for other one.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: ms460woodchuck on September 26, 2016, 08:23:50 pm
Received the poulan 330 crankcase someone wrote off. I see why now. They smashed the heck out of the worm gear trying to get it off and messed up the pto seal. Otherwise like new.
I tried to force my oem worm puller onto the smashed worm gear and I knew it was a mistake. But had to try. All that did was pull part of the first thread off the puller. I finally decided to go with the dremel and ready for new worm gear and seal.
Used my puller on another saw to make sure I didnt ruin it. Still works. Good worm gear on LEFT the smashed one on 330 on RIGHT.

Dremel used on the ruined one. OEM puller on RIGHT for other one.

 Some guys shouldn't even be aloud to run a saw let alone work on one!
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 26, 2016, 08:47:02 pm
Yep it does make you wonder sometimes how they get by without cutting their legs off.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on October 15, 2016, 10:38:52 am
Pic of p below ring. Pulled 180psi. This saw is about as new as you can get and have been used.

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Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: magnumfloyd on October 26, 2016, 08:18:55 am
Got my trouble child back in order again. I have a love hate relationship with this 330 last year the carb rebuild,chain brake which broke right away then the bar oiler gear. Then the center of the recoil broke away from the fan housing. Sourced a new green fan housing which is the right Poulan color anyway. How I love to run this saw and it screams though over my old 3400 which is just cumbersome but awesome and my little Stihl 026.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: ms460woodchuck on October 27, 2016, 09:11:10 pm
Got my trouble child back in order again. I have a love hate relationship with this 330 last year the carb rebuild,chain brake which broke right away then the bar oiler gear. Then the center of the recoil broke away from the fan housing. Sourced a new green fan housing which is the right Poulan color anyway. How I love to run this saw and it screams though over my old 3400 which is just cumbersome but awesome and my little Stihl 026.

 I just love these saws.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 27, 2016, 09:16:04 pm
Got my trouble child back in order again. I have a love hate relationship with this 330 last year the carb rebuild,chain brake which broke right away then the bar oiler gear. Then the center of the recoil broke away from the fan housing. Sourced a new green fan housing which is the right Poulan color anyway. How I love to run this saw and it screams though over my old 3400 which is just cumbersome but awesome and my little Stihl 026.

 I just love these saws.

Yep me too. 
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2017, 07:48:27 pm
Poulan 3450 60cc type 3 T-3 I just closed deal on.



Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 17, 2017, 08:01:19 pm
Yep I see those vertical fins.   Way to go.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 17, 2017, 08:08:52 pm
Just noticed in the front pic it looks like that hollow area is broken off beside muffler.   Only bought it for the cylinder as I ran out of them for this series.  So 1 used and 1 NOS will be back in stock.

Dirty etc but top end  suppose to be good.  Time will tell.

 I have extra green and yellow crankcases if it was needed.





Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Mycamaro_68 on January 17, 2017, 10:41:57 pm
Hey fellas. Just started lurking around reading up on these saws and thought you guys would get a chuckle out this. Local Craigslist ad for a 3450 with a 30" bar!
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 17, 2017, 10:59:49 pm
Yep you are right.   That is pretty funny right there.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 18, 2017, 12:00:10 pm
Welcome to CR 8) and yes WOW!  :o
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on January 21, 2017, 05:29:14 am
Wow indeed.   Maybe the guy was using it for limbing and/or bumping knots while walking the log.  In that use, the long bar is only for reach, cutting 8"-10" or so and smaller wood...
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 01, 2017, 05:51:46 pm
Bought another poulan 330 to put on the shelf in line for a look see someday.   Sold as a runner with 22".

Right now I have 3 other folks saws on the bench and cant even get time to button up my 505 either.  Plus 1 of the owners has another saw to have me do when I get his other 1 done.   8)

Pic as I saw it posted.  Good thing I seen it in the first 45mins and said sold as the vultures were lined up.  :P

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 01, 2017, 07:04:56 pm
Cannot go wrong with another 330.   One thing about them you can put them on the shelf and in two years when your retired it will still be there ready for you to look at.   They do not go bad.   Another good buy.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 02, 2017, 02:34:54 pm
 :o :D newest 330 arrived. Guy had told me he welded a hole in the front muffler cover.  But hadnt mentioned he welded 1 of the muffler bolts to the front cover too.   :P  Guess some grinding is in order for a look see some day.  :D
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 03, 2017, 02:04:23 pm
Decided I am just going to donate this front cover to the trash bin. Going to just grind cut through the weld and around bolt head to remove bolt.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 21, 2017, 06:34:26 pm
Was putting the 3 new parts saws on the shelf and noticed someone had cut the bar mount area on crankcase for bow bar  :o.  ::)
Like someone did the one 3750 badboy I had gotten in. Roger fixed that Tim Allen 3750 up.  8)

Just makes me SMH sometimes. 54cc 60cc bow bar saws.

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1703.0;attach=20312;image)





Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on March 28, 2017, 12:16:19 pm
Got a call local guy looking for one of these. So it looks like this one that is like new still and pulls 180psi  will get the new impulse and fuel lines in it finally. 
OEM original ones are fine but and old. I wont sell it without putting new ones in it for folks that dont work and know saws.
Wants 20" set up.

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=356.0;attach=19026;image)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 28, 2017, 05:55:23 pm
:o :D newest 330 arrived. Guy had told me he welded a hole in the front muffler cover.  But hadnt mentioned he welded 1 of the muffler bolts to the front cover too.   :P  Guess some grinding is in order for a look see some day.  :D

LOL got the bolts removed today with cutting wheel to grind through the welds. 

Baffle was welded to the front cover and warped closing it a bit.  Just STH
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 29, 2017, 07:02:59 pm
Got a call local guy looking for one of these. So it looks like this one that is like new still and pulls 180psi  will get the new impulse and fuel lines in it finally. 
OEM original ones are fine but and old. I wont sell it without putting new ones in it for folks that dont work and know saws.
Wants 20" set up.



This is why I change them even if running good at the time.  Checking closer when getting ready to remove I could see the impulse line was craacked. Ran the echo line for impulse and fuel line.

While test cutting and warmed up aka hot operating temp carb started acting funny. So stopped pulled carb expecting to see a HDA-164 and  here it was a HDA-137 on a 3450. That was a first for me with that carb on a saw I bought from original owner.
Put on a known good carb and started seemed ok. Will test all again tomorrow to see after getting up to operating temps again. .

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 29, 2017, 10:27:36 pm
Well you cannot beat that.   A HDA 137.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on March 30, 2017, 02:11:14 pm
Well you cannot beat that.   A HDA 137.

Did that 380 still have a 137 on it?   
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 30, 2017, 04:25:42 pm
I have not looked yet.   I am in the process of tearing down the 505.   
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on March 30, 2017, 04:43:46 pm
Just got dome testing this one with a known good carb. 
The 137 must need a kit. Prob original kit in it.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 14, 2017, 03:57:22 pm
Went ahead and bought this poulan 330 pho parts saw while I am still saving back to buy that poulan 325.   :-X

parts are parts.  :P





Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 15, 2017, 01:55:37 pm
Got a call local guy looking for one of these. So it looks like this one that is like new still and pulls 180psi  will get the new impulse and fuel lines in it finally. 
OEM original ones are fine but and old. I wont sell it without putting new ones in it for folks that dont work and know saws.
Wants 20" set up.

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=356.0;attach=19026;image)

TTT for member looking =    guy that wanted this bought one of the 3500 I had instead. I have 1 3500 I set up for a guy that has never paid too. So that 3500 is ready to go too.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 24, 2017, 12:37:44 pm
This series 380 3750 3450 330 projects and parts saws.

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 06, 2017, 04:12:21 pm
Finished up the 1 owner poulan 3450 20" I got from original owner.  First 3450 I have seen come with the HDA137 carb. Most of them come with the HDA164.  137 was used on the PP380 mostly. 
This 137 had a slight problem since new IMHO. Noticed when taking carb apart the diaphragm side with check valve flaps. One flap was partially covered by the gasket.  This could have been the issue with this carb. 
Thought wrong gasket. But it looked right.
So I just went out and checked. The gasket is right and the diaphragm is right. The diaphragm was double punched on its locating tab holes. Elongating them.  So when it was installed at factory or if someone rebuilt it before it was off if you didnt pay attention to it closely.
I put a poulan OEM 16" 3/8 050 60DL K041 bar on it for testing with today.

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 06, 2017, 04:50:05 pm
All the TA 3750's that I have seen also have come with a HDA137 carb.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 06, 2017, 07:29:40 pm
All the TA 3750's that I have seen also have come with a HDA137 carb.

I cant recall on all of them anymore. I have had many of the 3750 Timbermaster and TA's.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 09, 2017, 01:22:19 pm
Bought another poulan 330 to put on the shelf in line for a look see someday.   Sold as a runner with 22".

:o :D newest 330 arrived. Guy had told me he welded a hole in the front muffler cover.  But hadnt mentioned he welded 1 of the muffler bolts to the front cover too.   :P  Guess some grinding is in order for a look see some day.  :D

Started on this one today.

Bought this poulan 330  as a runner. Sure it probably ran but felt something wasnt right pulling over slowing today. Felt like it was hitting in the squish band
Also had a welded up front muffler cover I had to use small disc tool to grind welds to remove bolts earlier.
Could see slight erosion on the very top front lip of piston once cover was off.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 09, 2017, 01:48:42 pm
We were going 2 routes for the damage on the CR group.

Well that settles it. It is magnetic. Even the spatter on top of front of piston the magnetic sticks to it. So has to be from the welding. JMO

Never thought the guy would have welded up the muffler with it on the saw. STH lol
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Termitebuffet on July 09, 2017, 08:23:45 pm
Oh my....
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 09, 2017, 09:13:03 pm
Oh my....

Lucky for me I got it and not someone else not going to check them over before use. There was a line to buy it when I grabbed it.

I got all the parts on the shelf to do it in 54cc or 60cc.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on July 10, 2017, 12:05:06 pm
We were going 2 routes for the damage on the CR group.

Well that settles it. It is magnetic. Even the spatter on top of front of piston the magnetic sticks to it. So has to be from the welding. JMO

Never thought the guy would have welded up the muffler with it on the saw. STH lol

Wow that thing was hammered bad.   Crazy stuff.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 10, 2017, 01:49:34 pm
Cant believe the guy that welded muffler and ran it later didnt feel the resistance of splatter at the top of piston in squish when pulled over.   :D
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Eccentric on July 10, 2017, 02:54:30 pm
Wow.  She ate something....
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 10, 2017, 07:22:56 pm
Wow.  She ate something....

Long time. Hope all is well with you and family.

Ate welding spatter. Because some dumb hind end welded the cracks around front of muffler bolt with it on the saw. 

3 months to go, paper work signed back in June. ;)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 26, 2017, 09:08:07 am
Finished up the poulan 3450 type 3 60cc yesterday. Not done though. Wouldnt pop. 

Before build. Had looked through exhaust with muffler etc all off. Looked like new still. Looked through plug hole all the same.  So had never pulled the cylinder.

Check spark etc all good with spark analyzer. Just by pull test psi all felt good. Checked psi with tester not good. 90psi.
First thought stuck ring. Yep on back side by ring pin one side was stuck for about 1/2-3/4 inch.

So pulled down.
Waiting on base gasket for this one that is on order. Due to I ran out on 380 when I used the dirko ht for its base gasket.

(https://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6583.0;attach=21617;image)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on August 26, 2017, 04:51:18 pm
Yep 90 psi is pretty marginal.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 26, 2017, 09:15:17 pm
Yep 90 psi is pretty marginal.

Whats weird didnt feel or pop like 90psi to me.

Got the stuck end broke loose today using with PB blaster and very small round chisel and small hammer.

So clean the crud out of the groove. New ring and base gasket. Then should be good.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 28, 2017, 03:24:02 pm
Put crosshatch with ball hone and new ring after cleaning up the gunky groove.  Just waiting on my gasket kit. Hoping today delivery.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 28, 2017, 10:47:50 pm
She lives. Gasket came in this evening.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 29, 2017, 03:10:28 pm
Poulan 3450 type 3  test and tuned today. 

pics

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 19, 2017, 06:23:28 pm
Fired off another PP330 today from the saws I been stocking back. Bench 2 has been cleared.  Which suks because I was stocking up for winter builds.

New fuel lline, impulse line and trying a new rc clamp for impulse lines.  2 new rubber av's and tensioner.

What I started with

(https://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=356.0;attach=20882;image)

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 19, 2017, 06:42:49 pm
So where is the after pic.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 19, 2017, 08:04:18 pm
So where is the after pic.

Picture a 330 with no covers, no clutch cover, borrowed recoil since other one needs rope still. No air filter etc installed.
 Bare min to make sure she fired off and take throttle etc.  Will button  it up later on.

Couldnt get the dang plug out. Had to wait till warmed up then tried again with big hammer tapping srench.  Crazy tight  :o. Thought was going to break new av's   :D
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 21, 2017, 02:23:07 pm
So where is the after pic.

Picture a 330 with no covers, no clutch cover, borrowed recoil since other one needs rope still. No air filter etc installed.
 Bare min to make sure she fired off and take throttle etc.  Will button  it up later on.

Couldnt get the dang plug out. Had to wait till warmed up then tried again with big hammer tapping srench.  Crazy tight  :o. Thought was going to break new av's   :D

Still no time to button up this project.  Snapped a pic going by it.  ;)

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 21, 2017, 05:35:33 pm
So close.  I put that big oem dawg on it with the 22" bar they were sold with and a windsor chain. 
Forgot to check clutch drum bearing and it was bad. Pulled clutch off and put new bearing and grease. Then dinner bell rang.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 21, 2017, 07:03:27 pm
Done and tested. Just need to put rope in the other recoil.  Different clutch cover.

Took the tube out of the inside of the muffler on these.  Didnt drill this baffle out yet. Just removed screen.

Max is 13.8K but 12.8K was to my liking.



Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 22, 2017, 01:29:01 pm
I get ask this. So I am going to save it here and my website.  Off hand I know the poulan pro 330 380 and poulan 3450 3750 use this style pulley.

poulan 330 380 3450 3750 starter rope replacement.

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 28, 2017, 08:58:07 pm
I bought a parts saw 330, just so I could get the starter pulley and a few other parts for the intake when I was converting the 3500 over to the bigger carb.
The starter pulley I used on one my 3750 BB.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 28, 2017, 09:02:26 pm
Thats why I keep buying up the parts saws too. But most of them are making it back to running status.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on September 30, 2017, 08:30:13 pm
Pick up my 3rd 330 yesterday.  New condition minus clutch and cover/brake, bar and chain.  Modded dogs and muffler this AM.
I can only guess the story with this saw, parts robbed at a dealer...warranty exchange?  Clean filter and spark arrestor, clean,clean, clean.  Could not have been run 10 mins at the outside. 

Purchased it for $30, put a clutch and a .325 8 rim and a 20" bar from a 2046 and a 330 brake/cover from a parts 330 i had and I'm grinning!  And apparently I have a surplus of ands I need to use before they go bad.

Has a tendency, unlike my others to run on high speed fresh out of a cut.  I'll give it some runtime before sorting that issue.

Planning to reuse the previously ported cylinder off one of my others that have both been converted to 60cc's and drop down to an 18" bar.

The saw had these stickers removed, starter -13,800 max - engine specs - and saftey crap at rear handle.

This one was like taking a walk and discovering a couple franklins stuck to your shoes.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on October 01, 2017, 08:44:43 am
Anyone have a guess as to why I can't log in to AS?
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun on October 01, 2017, 09:07:54 am
Anyone have a guess as to why I can't log in to AS?
Just went there. Its up.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on October 08, 2017, 05:49:27 pm
Issue sorted with AS,  cookie problem.

Wish I could say the same for the newest 330, seems I have a problem child.
Put another 164 carb from a parts saw (330 type 3 that I took the 60cc p&c from), put it on this new one, same idle/run on issue.  Acts like an intermittent air leak. Impulse line was not put on securely enough for my liking and made the intake boot was snug; no difference.  Behaves until it gets some heat in the saw... I think.
I'll do a complete teardown once I get back from the Nate savaged gulf coast fishing trip.

Don't know if Sharkys carb vids will help, no welch plug on the 164.   I guess I could take a carb from my FINE running "SUPER 330's" and see if it makes a difference before teardown.

Any thoughts? ;D
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 08, 2017, 06:13:25 pm
Have you checked crank seals?  Have had them once warmed up it shows up the leak at crank seals.  Redneck check. Get it good warm from running let idle and turn to side then turn to other side. See what happens.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 08, 2017, 07:23:12 pm
Madsen's air leak check http://www.madsens1.com/saw_airleak.htm
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on October 19, 2017, 09:28:40 pm
Seem to have sorted the issue with the newest 330.  Stripped it down to put the mildly ported cylinder on and didn't really see any glaring problems other than the intake boot wasn't installed right from the factory, (pinched, not in groove on cylinder).  Filled the crankcase with toluene to soften the crank seals and let it soak for a bit, blew dry and gave a bit of PB blaster to the outside of said seals.  Reassembled sans base gasket and a little permatex no.2 with a different intake boot.  Port matched the muff to the cylinder and away we go.

Bucking spike was shortened as earlier series previously.

Burned off the extra oil from assembly and adjusted carb enough to get into some wood.  Seemed to still exhibit some hunting at idle until I made several cuts to get to operating temp so carb could be adj. properly.

Cutting strong with a 20' .325 7-pin semi chis setup,...holds RPM well in dry oak with bar buried.  Comes back to idle good and will sit and idle like it should.

Still need to advance timing a bit. On these saws I oval the mounting holes to adj. as there is room for movement.  Tempted to add a shark gill vent to muff opposite bar side exit.

Thinking I may still go back to the .325 NK 18" 8-pin set up that I ran before.

Pretty tickled with my $30 purchase ;)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 19, 2017, 10:30:08 pm
Yep for 30 bucks you can not go wrong on those saws.   
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 10, 2017, 03:50:12 pm
Got a good laugh to myself today.  ;)   Poulan saves the day and guys stihl fails to run right. 

Got a call. Hey you doing anything right now we need yur help.   Friends pastors house lost a Bradford pear in the tornado and needed it brought down and limbed out, Then main trunk bucked up.  Maybe 17" - 18"

Guy had just had his stihl serviced and sharpened too.  :-X 
May have just earned me a new customer  :P.  After he takes it back to them in his frustration state he was in.  :-X

Anyhow I loaded up the 3450 54cc with 16", 60cc and 71cc with 16" for back ups.  The 54cc did the whole job and was like cutting hot butter.  Dang I got that ash test chain cutting.  8)

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on November 11, 2017, 10:33:10 am
Got a good laugh to myself today.  ;)   Poulan saves the day and guys stihl fails to run right. 

Got a call. Hey you doing anything right now we need yur help.   Friends pastors house lost a Bradford pear in the tornado and needed it brought down and limbed out, Then main trunk bucked up.  Maybe 17" - 18"

Guy had just had his stihl serviced and sharpened too.  :-X 
May have just earned me a new customer  :P.  After he takes it back to them in his frustration state he was in.  :-X

Anyhow I loaded up the 3450 54cc with 16", 60cc and 71cc with 16" for back ups.  The 54cc did the whole job and was like cutting hot butter.  Dang I got that ash test chain cutting.  8)


Even more impressive when you tell some farmboss owner that the poulan is only 53.18 cc.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 11, 2017, 10:37:07 am
Got a good laugh to myself today.  ;)   Poulan saves the day and guys stihl fails to run right. 

Got a call. Hey you doing anything right now we need yur help.   Friends pastors house lost a Bradford pear in the tornado and needed it brought down and limbed out, Then main trunk bucked up.  Maybe 17" - 18"

Guy had just had his stihl serviced and sharpened too.  :-X 
May have just earned me a new customer  :P.  After he takes it back to them in his frustration state he was in.  :-X

Anyhow I loaded up the 3450 54cc with 16", 60cc and 71cc with 16" for back ups.  The 54cc did the whole job and was like cutting hot butter.  Dang I got that ash test chain cutting.  8)


Even more impressive when you tell some farmboss owner that the poulan is only 53.18 cc.

How did you come up with your cc number?  I come up with 54.343cc
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 11, 2017, 10:49:54 am
I did the math. You used 46mm bore x 32mm stroke. They are 46.5mm bore x 32mm stroke. JFI
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on November 11, 2017, 06:36:08 pm
Ah, touche'.

Was going by factory literature instead of measuring.
Measured two cylinders...well looky there ;)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2017, 05:18:26 pm
Done and tested. Just need to put rope in the other recoil.  Different clutch cover.

Took the tube out of the inside of the muffler on these.  Didnt drill this baffle out yet. Just removed screen.

Max is 13.8K but 12.8K was to my liking.





The 330 I found today on back lower shelf. Forgot about this one.   ::) :D :P

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Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 02, 2017, 11:17:14 pm
You have had a lot of those saws come and go.   
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on December 06, 2017, 02:44:54 pm
So I guess the piston was backwards.

Yep. 2nd 3450 in a row like that.

I think I can add one more to that list.

Proper assembly- arrow points toward exhaust, right?
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on December 06, 2017, 03:18:26 pm
Hmmmm.   Here's a puzzeler.

Two pistons, pulled from my '07 330's when converted to 60cc, have ring gaps at exh. side.  One has bold arrow @exh. side, the other has 97 with EXH under and arrow.

My newest has 97 and faint EXH and arrow @ exh. side  with the ring gap on intake side.  WTF?!?!?!?!

Two pistons from '07 saws have slight casting bump in center.

Latest piston has a slight recess.

Ever seen this?
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 06, 2017, 05:45:24 pm
I have not taken a lot of 330 apart and never really paid attention.   The arrow though on the piston should point to the exhaust unless some one has been in it before and modified it for some reason to have the ring gap in a different location.   It really is about the ring gap being in a place so that it cannot hang up on a port.   
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 06, 2017, 05:50:36 pm
Yep I dont pay attention to arrows. I go by ring gap. Can see how that could mess a guy up if they are unsure and follow a misprinted piston.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on December 06, 2017, 06:05:53 pm
If there is no pin offset in these saws, then the piston can go either way.  This saw was factory assembled with ring gap at intake side and run. Other saws were factory assembled with gap at exh side.  Cylinders are the same.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 06, 2017, 06:13:51 pm
Thats wrong to run gap at ext on these. Plus the pistons have a pin in rear.

Need pics because I think your talking 330 3450 3750 380 pistons
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on December 06, 2017, 06:36:20 pm
What is wrong?
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on December 06, 2017, 06:57:12 pm
Thats wrong to run gap at ext on these. Plus the pistons have a pin in rear.

Need pics because I think your talking 330 3450 3750 380 pistons


I'm not sure I get what you are saying.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 06, 2017, 07:34:06 pm
I have never seen a piston for a 330,3450,3500,3750 that did not a have a pin in the ring groove so that the ring cannot rotate.   
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 06, 2017, 07:41:44 pm
I have never seen a piston for a 330,3450,3500,3750 that did not a have a pin in the ring groove so that the ring cannot rotate.   

This ^^^^^^^^^


We need pics of what you got going drum
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 06, 2017, 07:44:13 pm
54cc to show have 60cc too

see the pin left of rear in 1st pic.  would be on right side installed in saw at rear.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on December 06, 2017, 07:45:06 pm
Ah, I see where the confusion is now.  When speaking of pin offset, I am referring to wrist pin.  Some engines have offset wrist pins, i.e. not in the center of the bore, to reduce piston slap.

When referring to these PoulanPro 330's, I am saying of three different pistons, (two from 2007),one has the ring gap pin on the intake side and the '07's have the ring gap pin on the exhaust side...Why?

They can apparently be installed either way.

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 06, 2017, 07:46:17 pm
Nope just saying nope not right. do what you want
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on December 06, 2017, 07:48:30 pm
Ring gap needs uninterupted cylinder wall, correct?
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on December 06, 2017, 08:13:11 pm
Just dropped a piston in a cylinder with gap marked at skirt.  Gap at intake side just barely makes it past transfer to cylinder wall.  Was factory assembled and running like this with no damage, but obviously WRONG.

Glad I tore this saw back down.  Had dropped a previously ported cylinder on saw, and didn't think much about it since it was in new condition.

I wonder how many they shipped like this?
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 06, 2017, 08:22:17 pm
With the 3 different Pistons did you happen to notice if there was any difference in the cylinder ports.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on December 06, 2017, 08:34:34 pm
With the 3 different Pistons did you happen to notice if there was any difference in the cylinder ports.

Nothing different with cylinders other than one being mildly ported. Tried to see  something different with combustion chambers, but nadda.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on December 08, 2017, 05:11:30 pm
Saw went back together yesterday.  Swapped piston with one that was originally run with ported cylinder.
Tore it down to replace crank seals, but took it completely down to crank in hand.  Seals looked fine,... should, being new. Reassembled and sealed with permatex aviation.

Any running issues have vanished.  Running strong.

Also built a pump drive puller so I didn't have to wait for shipping.   Used a 1/2" plumbing union, a 1/2 -3/8 hex (required internal grinding past threads), and a fine thread G8 bolt.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 07, 2018, 03:12:06 pm
Friend I sold the poulan 3450 type 3 60cc called while I was was away on a saw search. Said his saw would start but chain would turn and shut saw off.  Being I know him and he is mechanical minded.  I told him pull cover check clutch and then clutch drum bearing. 3 shoe clutch spring had broke.  530027160

Told him I would be home in a few hours to meet me and I would pull a 2 shoe off one of my saws so he could finish cutting today. 
After that was done he said the recoil rope  would get stuck out on a start and while cutting work its way in. I went through thought I had that all fixed. But on start to make cut to tighten clutch on I seen it happen. So I pulled a 3450  recoil off another one of my saws to make sure he got through today.

Reason for the hurry and doing it on Sun. He was wanting to leave some more wood for a house setter.  While he is in Fla later this week for awhile.

Guess it is a good thing I have extras in parts for these guys running all of these I have been selling local.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 07, 2018, 08:20:40 pm
Said didnt miss a beat the rest of the day.  Told him just keep the clutch and recoil if he wants and I will keep his.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: drumbum on January 08, 2018, 01:17:19 pm
Having spares on hand is a  beautiful thing, as is having multiples of same model.
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 08, 2018, 09:44:22 pm
3450 showed up today wouldnt start. Impulse line had come off was all.  Plus once fixed. Still didnt fire off. Guessing had flooded it. So Put new plug and good to go.

Was another one I sold in past. Has clamp on the impulse but it is the smooth nipple. Sure wish they all had the step in the impulse nipple like some do. JMO
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 27, 2018, 09:26:52 pm
Did a poulan 330 to local guys order today.  Opened up inner baffle, put a gill on front cover side for dual port.  Took a K095 bar 3/8 050 72dl and elongated the bar tensioner slots for oiling. Also so he could use his 72dl chains from other saw.
Then set a little fat around 12.8K with a 13.8K oem max setting.

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 28, 2018, 06:38:59 am
Just so others that dont have the sticker on their 330 etc and wonder what max rpm listed is.

Poulan 330 max rpm's



Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 28, 2018, 08:44:45 pm
Test cutting in ash I noticed the rakers on the PP330 72dl chain I grabbed off the nail was very aggressive.  rakers were 40   :-\

New owner said she didnt miss a beat with that chain in the dead cherry today.   8)





Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 29, 2018, 08:55:35 pm
Poulan 3450 and PP330 project saw heading my way.   8)



Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 29, 2018, 09:43:44 pm
Kevin I have a 330 parts saw here that I have stolen a few things off of.   If there is anything you need off of it and if it is still there let me know. 
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 02, 2018, 07:05:51 am
Found another 3450 down south and brought it back with me.    Didnt even check to see if ran etc. Parts are parts to me if something happens to be wrong.  Was missing hand guard, crracked air filter cover and chain hanging a couple inches below bar. Pic I seen, weird chain not hanging off in their pic. 

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 27, 2018, 03:50:36 pm
Finally time to put the next to newest 3450 together that came in. Looks like another one with front muffler exit, 3 shoe HD clutch and HDA137 carb.   2 of 3 confirmed and about 90% sure on 3rd.

Middle one.

Plus the last 3450 and PP330


Pics in a min.




Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 02, 2018, 07:49:39 am
pic of the 2 3450 and 1 PP330

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 15, 2018, 11:21:44 am
Nope only 2 out of 3 and my 90% feeling on 3rd was big fat O.   :D

Started on a project 3450 that suppose to be a runner.  Replacing the lines I notice it has a hda49 on it. So throw a hda164 on it  (unknown condition as came on another parts saw but looked new) and cant get it running. Pulled 164 apart cant see anything really wrong with the kit. So going to throw a nos hda137 on it and see.


This one from above.

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=356.0;attach=23924;image)
Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 15, 2018, 12:02:41 pm
That did the trick. She is a runner. New NOS carb on 2 pulls pops, 3rd pull running.


Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 31, 2018, 02:01:56 pm
Sometimes they just make SMH. Sometimes they impress. This one was total fail.
Screw though case to try and hold muffler on.
Busted the cc right behind the tensioner with a bent all to heck wrong bolt. They tried to patch up but failed.
Some kind of window screen bolted to part that suppose to hold the air filter on.

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 26, 2018, 08:51:33 am
Guy was looking for a 3450 with 20". He wanted my GB bar I had been running on it. But told him I would sell it with this ole oem bar. Time will tell if it goes.

Dual port muffler with 3 shoe clutch.

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 19, 2018, 08:22:47 am
I was ask today if I would sell parts for the poulan 380 3750 330 3450 series of saws. Like I say not married to any chainsaws or parts.
Just ask, even been selling off some of my nos and used in the bigger ones I am into, 415 425 445 475 505. Cant keep them all.
NLA pulley and a flywheel to go with it sold. Just pulled for the guy asking.
Some of the other part saws and parts.
Bored rebuilding these anymore. Have like 5 still waiting on me in 60cc to get too.



Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 06, 2019, 05:56:43 pm
Project 3450 54cc I just got in. I wonder why it wouldnt start 😮😂. Worst I have ever seen on this style of air filters. The pleats I am guessing half inch deep. Laid a cleaner filter in pic to compare to. Also mix in tank smelled like turpentine.
Least the piston and cylinder look good. I would have figured scored.

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 06, 2019, 06:01:43 pm
This 54cc poulan 3450 is sold PHO. Just showing new owner pics. 3 shoe clutch, known good carb put on it, new fuel and impulse lines with oem echo, dual port muffler with baffle opened on both sides.

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 19, 2019, 02:35:48 pm
I grabbed one of the projects I bought over the last few years. Since it seems everyone wants a runner not a project to do themselves.

I was told this one was a runner when I bought it PHO. Dang it was, after a quick check over 😲. Took alot of air and brushing to get some of the jammed packed chips everywhere. One of those saws that must have never been cleaned. I even left the old fuel line and impulse line as they looked ok to test with. 1999 Poulan 3450 54cc

I even dug through my parts and found 1 3750 380 60cc OEM used piston and cylinder kit.

IMO I wouldnt change it from the 54cc being it cut so dang good just now in some dry ash with 16" 3/8 buried. With that big dawg maybe 14" cutting.

Pulled them dang epa stops too while tuning. Piston looked like they had been running old mix over the years. Think the batch I am running now is VP racing 40:1 e-free 90. Wondering how long to see if it is cleaning it up.

Some wrong fasteners but I dont give a rip about such things myself.

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 23, 2019, 09:42:01 am
Tried to see what 330 380 3450 3750 crankcases I have left. Checking I think I got enough parts left to build 2 more 100% complete saws.
Just getting out of this series and selling off parts etc.

Helping others out to keep theirs going since alot of parts going NLA last couple years.



Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 23, 2019, 04:53:02 pm
Seen a poulan 330 54cc with the 22" 3/8 for sale.  Sticker shows 2007. While I was out I found a JD bar cover to put on the shop wall too.
I was told poulan ran. It did. But needed a air filter cover, air filter base being the stud was broke off in base and drywall screw was used to hold cover onto base, both right side lower AV's were ripped apart, fuel line needed replaced. The issue with the recoil was the rusted and broken recoil spring. Thank goodness I still had all those parts still. 

Went ahead and pulled the tube out of muffler and opened up the inside cage too.

Some before and after pics.   I put a 20" to test with.



Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 23, 2019, 05:08:48 pm
after

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 24, 2019, 02:57:51 pm
Put the 1999 3450 and 2007 330 side by side for someone on CRG

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 07, 2019, 02:37:02 pm
Those things that make you say fart nuggets to yourself. 😂 Had it all together but not really all. When I was tensioning rope I noticed it wasnt smooth. Then noticed the shield laying on other side of bench. So apart it came in a haste. Wrong move the pulley caught the spring end just enough and boing. Back together after I walked away for a bit. SMH

Title: Re: Poulan 330 3450
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 03, 2020, 03:15:53 pm
Guy bought a poulan 3450 bad boy TA with no recoil. So I was pulling some out so he could put his flywheel and recoil back on his 3.3