Chainsaw Repair
Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Poulan => Topic started by: Cut4fun . on June 30, 2014, 04:12:44 pm
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Just had this super rednecked craftsman 2.3 chainsaw dropped off. Will try and get some pics of the rednecking later before I tear in.
What is the model number for the poulan 2300cva for the Craftsman versions if anyone knows. I guess I can see if sticker shows.
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Find the sticker if you can. There were several model #'s for the Craftsman branded 2300CVA.
-358.35506x (16")
-358.35507x (16" with PS)
-358.35718x (18")
Each one of those will have a number in place of the 'x' (I put that 'X' in there to show that there's one more digit). That covers several variations. For example, there could be a 358.355060, 358.355061, 358.355062...........etc. Some had more varaints than others.
The rebadged products list doesn't go into those variants. Usually, you can type in the model # without that last 'x' digit (for example, 358.35506) and the partsdirect search engine will give you a list of variants to chose from. That search came up with three model variants:
http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/part-model/35835506?page=1
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Forgot to look at sticker. :-[
Muffler had been pried apart and put together wrong. They had the missing back half bolt to hold bracket and halves togeether in the AF cover sticking up half way. Fuel line as you can see. Top handle all rednecked with washers so something missing.
Carb not pulling fuel so guessing carb kit. Checked and cut line ends off and reran fuel line on it for now. No holes or cracks in line so why I guess carb kit.
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Poulan 2300AV 2300CVA 2350CVA IPL http://www.poulan.com/ddoc/POUI/POUI1996_USen/POUI1996_USen__530064828.pdf
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LOL. I can see the MN sticker in one of the pics. Somebody without a clue worked on that thing.
When the AV buffers are new they're handy saws. When they get old and rotten the saws get sloppy feelin'. Make no inferences of anything else with that statement please.8)
Because of the 27 mile long fuel line on those, if the impulse signal isn't strong (crank seals) and/or the carb diaphragms are sketchy, they don't pull fuel or tune for ****. K10-WAT for the carb kit and 530019059 (available from your local Husky/Poulan parts source for about $4 each) for the seals.
The current gas cap (to replace the lousy design that's on there now) is 530014347 (also both a Husky and Poulan part). My Husky dealer had the cap and the crank seals in stock. Cap was about $5. They stock those parts as Husky sold a rebadged Micro (Husky 23C) for a few years. If you happen on one of those (especially with a brake) I'd be interested in it BTW...
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Thanks for all the info.
Now you tell me you are looking for a husky 23. Passed on one awhile back. 23C same as what I call 23?
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Thanks for all the info.
Now you tell me you are looking for a husky 23. Passed on one awhile back. 23C same as what I call 23?
Yep. Same saw. Not a 'must have'................but I would like to pick one up someday.
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Well I primed carb got it to fire and finally start on prime and then watched it draw fuel. Like you said I couldnt get it to idle and it went into what could be a air leak rev from seals I would guess.
I offered the guy a like new 1950 with throttle lock, chain brake, etc for $20 PHO and use his 16" b+c. Plus leave his homie 150 ( I dont like at all) and craftsman for parts.
Didnt check numbers again but seen 16" bar.
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I put that 150 info in the 150 thread down in homelite. Just so you all know. Some useful info.
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Well now that the saw was mine. Gave $20 trade in toward the $50 dollar I was aking for like new 1950 42cc (it says ??? ) I had. Plus gave him $10 trade in for the 150. Told him $20 and use his b+c. Just because I would never use the 1950 and be a loaner only.
Anyhow I wanted to see if the seals were really bad like it was acting. So I put on a known good carb I had. Bingo straightened right up.
Now I have never seen a carb to take off and scream the saw off on a high idle run like it had a air leak. You guys? Going to put a kit in the carb to see if that does it but I wonder.
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Well now that the saw was mine. Gave $20 trade in toward the $50 dollar I was aking for like new 1950 42cc (it says ??? ) I had. Plus gave him $10 trade in for the 150. Told him $20 and use his b+c. Just because I would never use the 1950 and be a loaner only.
Anyhow I wanted to see if the seals were really bad like it was acting. So I put on a known good carb I had. Bingo straightened right up.
Now I have never seen a carb to take off and scream the saw off on a high idle run like it had a air leak. You guys? Going to put a kit in the carb to see if that does it but I wonder.
May have been another issue that cause the high idle rev. Did you look at the throttle plate to see if it's shifted (or installed wrong)? That can keep the carb from closing all the way. Hopefully the plate screw is still there and not in the crankcase (or sitting on the reed............I saw that once). Worn throttle shaft bores in the carb body can cause it to behave like that.
The poor impulse signal (from seals usually) or bad pump section (due to a bad diaphragm, clogged filter, or loose pump section cover screw) will make the saw not pump fuel for beans. That'll cause the poor idle quality, wandering tune and poor cold starting symptoms.............but wouldn't cause it to rev out.
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How about the high speed check valve is leaking back into the idle circuit.
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I was actually even thinking of putting a different tank, handle etc on this saw if the carb works after rebuild. But after making test cuts with it and not feeling those not so good vibrations. I think I will just leave the rednecked washered av handle on it.
The handle style does make it feel bulky and heavier then the non av versions.
Will get back to the original carb check, when I get kit and more time again.
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I put the carb on the 1800 I pulled the good carb off of. Same results but not as bad on the rev. Thinking it was the throttle plate hung up some.
Roger can I get a pic of the av's on your saw? Poulan 2300 firewood type III , 2300 CVA Trying to figure out why so many metal washers used upper and lower.
Sure was smooth in the cut compared to the no av 2000 1800 etc.
(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2922.0;attach=5692;image)
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Here you go. ;D
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so it runs decent with a different carb? not a seal then? i have seen way more redneck them that.....seen them drill holes all over to run the fuel lines.....
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Thanks Roger. Now I can see what is missing or wore out and replaced with washers.
Welcome stubnail67, nope not the seals after all.
Poulan 2300cva IPL http://www.barrettsmallengine.com/partslist/poulan2300cvachainsaw.pdf
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thanks for the welcome pretty cool site....so what are your plans for this saw?and are you going to ditch the handle????I love this style of handle the only thing i noticed on the one i have is it pulls alot more dust and chips in under the air filter..... reminds me of my 009 but a cadillac ride LOL....
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thanks for the welcome pretty cool site....so what are your plans for this saw?and are you going to ditch the handle????I love this style of handle the only thing i noticed on the one i have is it pulls alot more dust and chips in under the air filter..... reminds me of my 009 but a cadillac ride LOL....
Decided to leave the handle even though I dont care for the bulkiness of it. I like the av part on it, feels good compared to no av ones.
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Hey Stubnail67 good to see you here.
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very happy to be here.... ;D
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very happy to be here.... ;D
Glad you like.
So what all saws you own or owned? Likes dislikes etc?
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i have a craftsman 3.7 strong saw one poulan 2300 smooth saw many 2,3 red av and and a few black and yellows and a few green av saws like them also.... about 7 poulan 2000 types with a rigid handle..... a 2.3 with the rear handle the one i posted...... about 10 variations of the poulan s25da..... my fave saw.......ive had a few homelite top handles.....also a 2500 poulan 2 295's a 2900.....think thats all my shelf saws..... for work i have 2 echo cs 3000 stihl 009l stihl ms 021 ms 361 a few beater poulans that run ****.....echo cs 400 with 2 cuts on it.....husqvarna 51 an echo extendable pole saw.....i have owned 2 different 026 and 026 pro sold them.....025 sold oh and a husqvarna 23 compact.... it sits on a shelf its really nice....plus all sorts of lawn equipment... did small time lawn stuff after work for 25 years.......for dependable starts i will take echo every time..... for durability stihl but when they flood not so much......for my fave saw it would be the poulan s25da and cva s25..... i also like the micros but they dont cut as good as the s25da saws......thats close to what i have 35 saws i think running at this time.....i only use 4 saws when i do a job top handle ground saw saw for the stump and a beater for the trailer......and always have the echo pole saw easy money.... i think thats it....
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see if this works
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Nice list of saws. Thanks for sharing.
Aaron here is looking for a husky 23 of you come across anymore.
How you liking the echo 3000 TH? I have a thread where I was asking about them too. Which echo polesaw? I have a ppt 261 extendable.
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one more
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Yep the embedded pic works.
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LOL Aaron will be drooling over that sweet looking 23.
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sorry it was a wee bit large LOL my bad
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LOL Aaron will be drooling over that sweet looking 23.
Yes I am Kevin.8)
Welcome Stubnail. The XXV series Poulans are also my favorite tophandles. I have several variants of them as well. Got a few Micro variants too, but not as many as you do.
Let me know if that Husky 23C needs a new home....
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will do i paid way more for that one then i normally do....took a year to find one in the shape i wanted.......i have a few micros 2.3 micros beaters parts saws that i made into running saws..... i think i love them best .... i have alot of buddies that climb are like what is that thing????man ill take one of those.....that thing cuts really good.....oh it does not have a chain brake?????? I usually reply cause a real man dont need one LOL......love my beater saws.....i do clean them and maintain them......sharpen them ....etc..... will let you know if i decide to part with the 23 compact....there is one on the bay right now pretty low in not bad shape unless its sold
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am i allowed to post the link here?
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am i allowed to post the link here?
Post up this site isnt like that. We are ALL SPONSORS here for FREE. ;)
Not about money here. It's about helping folks out and learning.
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i love my lil echos i have 2 in case one goes down..... i have muffler modded them and they cut good enuff for me.... light and always starts.....keep the chain sharp its good..... seems like they struggle over 10 inch wood if im trying to cut fast..... im older now i just let the saw do the work,,,,,, better to take your time......cant remember witch pole saw it is off hand its been a good tool......the shaft is stiffer them my buddys stihl.....
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUSQVARNA-COMPACT-23-ANTIQUE-VINTAGE-CHAINSAW-137LB-OF-COMPRESSION-ORIGINAL-BAR-/161365942580?pt=US_Chainsaws&hash=item259228e134
here you go arron good luck if i had more money i would be in on it.......
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Nice 23 in that ad.
Here is a 2300cva handle with everything. Being you was asking about mine. AV's look good too. $5 and ship. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Poulan-2300-Chainsaw-Top-Trigger-Handle-Assembly-/171371719703?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27e68cec17
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Stubnail, remember you asking about 2400. Here is the craftsman 2.3 $75 shipped. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Craftsman-2-3-Chainsaw-runs-great-AR-549-/230990241003?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c8175ceb
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I saw that one yes...... right now my goals are a 235pp a 2.3 grey with the handle like you have and a poulan 2400 and a poulan 236 in mint shape........i need to go through my herd and get rid of some duplicates i have ..... i had 20 different micros and sold them all then kicked my self a few were mint hard to find xxv micros .....and a really good pp225 with such good compression.....i was new to them and did not know about the check valve i sold it cheap for parts,,,,,,breaks my heart it was a strong saw.........i know these saws pretty well now and have built it back up......my wife thinks i am more crazy then ever LOL.......
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You can have the 2.3 grey I got in for the trade in I allowed PHO. Shipping would probably be more.
Would come with the old carb needing a kit as far as I can tell. Diaphragms are stiff. Missing the presence lever in the handle. on/off switch dont work and never checked it. Someone put washers between bolt and outer av's. The old fuel line I trimmed up to test and good fuel filter still in it. Muffler was pried on and bent, plus on backwards. I put back up without baffles and screen.
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like i said im tight right now but email what you would want shipped to florida 33709..... and i will work on it.....i have good carbs bar and chain combos plenty of parts except that style handle .......oilers even a donor grey 2000 worse case...... long as the handle is not broke i should have everything to make it ....... may take me a week to sell these saws ..... i am at an all time low on money ....im not used to this...... but i am interested.....in that saw..... let me know a total price shipped....i can rebuild the carb and what ever else it needs....
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got and deleted...... best way to get ahold of me email wise....
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Shoot forgot to get pic of the sign the wife gave me yesterday.
Oh well pics of the craftsman. Oiler worked great from what I saw on the b+c.
Trying to show the bad. Washers at AV areas x2. Missing presence lever. on/off not working. carb needs rebuilt. missing af cover bolt. needs new fuel line run. Dont think I forgot anything.
Like I said earlier in thread I allowed $20 trade in. Thats all I want back plus shipping.
If you dont take it. I was going to throw a 12" and use as is with the 1800 carb on it. But if you want it I'm putting one that needs the kit.
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Noticing that last pic. Must have had a throttle lock with that presence lever that is missing in the back of handle.
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i emailed you..... i hate the operator presence switch looks like im not the only one LOL.....cool
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Back in the 90's I had some Mac's that the operator presence lever didn't release the trigger so I took them apart and cut the tabs off with my pocket knife. They looked untouched on the outside. But I didn't have any more trouble with them.
I bought a used Husqvarna 372 that someone had removed the operator presence lever. I bought a Woodland Pro aftermarket one to go in the hole. I had to work on the aftermarket lever half a day with a file and had it in and out of the handle many times before I got it to function correctly. It was more of a problem with it being too thick. To see and use the saw, you would never know it today.
I have another 372 that the operator presence lever doesn't lock the trigger but I only use it at GTG's so I haven't fixed it. It was that way when I bought the saw.
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Glad I still had this ole craftsman poulan 2300cva on the shelf today.
Guy wanted it over the poulan 295 and echo 3900. On a budget and set him up with new oregon 16" bar and new windsor 50R chain. Plus gave him a used back up chain.
He left happy and I guess that is all that matters.
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Just priced the oregon bar 160SDEA041 $28 and a new chain online $12 before shipping. Thats what I was figuring the bar and chain was the cost of the saw itself. :P
All I care about is mo $ for ammo. ;)
I put a like new air filter and different fuel cap on it too.
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Had this saw come back in craftsman 2300cva awhile back with the carb kit gone stiff. What I figured after testing in front of him and Jim when they were here back then.
He traded up to a craftsman 3.0 49cc with the 3/8LP set up. He loves this saw and set up.
Anyhow this has just been setting on the shelf. Today I pulled it down put in a carb kit. Runs as should again.
Noticed when putting bar oil in while it was on its side the bar oil would come right out on the bar side when filling up. Guessing the vent deal missing? Didnt look. :-\
Filled up with mix and where it passes through the tank the shrinkage of tubing it now leaks when full. :P
On/off switch dont work. I just used choke. ::)
Threw a old 18" bar and chain on it and test cut with. Going to be a loaner saw. ;)
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Here you go. ;D
I think what you are seeing is stock. Mine are like that. Opps! I was looking at the green saw not the grey one. You are correct.
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LOL looked into why bar oiled poured straight through. The oil line had crumbled and fell out. Pulled the oil deal in case ran new tygon line through for a oil line.
Went ahead and put a new fuel line too. Do to leaking around it tank hole where it had shrunk. Went with the echo 3mm 5mm line.
So carb kit, oil line, fuel line ready to send this loaner saw to sale or loan.
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Just had a pretty nice Poulan 2300 CVA dropped off to see why it wouldnt start.
Will get pics later to save.
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Pics. Fuel line was pinched in 2 places, the yellow oregon. I put tygon LP-1200 back in it. Hate working with that line. Also needed a carb kit and tuning. Pulled those epa stops for full adjustment.
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nice one.... what year is she?
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nice one.... what year is she?
Didnt even try to figure it out.
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should say on the sticker on the side ...
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should say on the sticker on the side ...
I worked on it and owner picked it up. So will need to wait till it comes back some day or year.
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ahhh its all good buddy i thought it was yours ....im fixen to thin my heard .. the last thing i need to worry about is more chainsaws....
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ahhh its all good buddy i thought it was yours ....im fixen to thin my heard .. the last thing i need to worry about is more chainsaws....
Yeah not much in a buying mode at all, as you can only use 1 saw at a time and take 2 for back ups.
Now working on other folks saws is what I been doing for awhile now. = Easy $$$