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Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Jonsered => Topic started by: Jason K on July 07, 2014, 10:02:08 pm

Title: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: Jason K on July 07, 2014, 10:02:08 pm
I got home there was a message on my phone. It was the ex jonsered dealer 10 miles away from me before the big change. He told me there is a CS2165 turbo he has that he would give me to get it out of there. Well I picked it up.It is a told mess and missing parts.Top cover,muffler,clutch cover,top handle, bar,chain and coil missing.It has been ridin hard and put away wet not the best looking at all. I did check there is no score marks in the cylinder or on the piston. Spark Plug looked good like it was running right. The thing is Y did they take it apart so much. He told me that is the way he got it 3 yrs ago. Plus he told me he was going to fix her up and resell but now he has no way of getting parts for it for cost. What do you all think? Here's the numbers off of it . 967 17 16-00 below that 01 0800123. So what year is it made in? Also what model is it in Husky? If I do fix it up I need to know what year. Input please on this one. I am just nervours about this one.

Thanks
Jason
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: 660magnum on July 07, 2014, 11:28:49 pm
Like a Husqvarna 365 special - 2001 week 8

The covers and top handle will need to be Johnny stuff unless you want orange covers on a red crankcase.

The top bar is different between a Husky and a Johnny. The top angle is different. With a red rear handle/gas tank, you will need a Jonsered top bar for the angle is different.

It will be a lovable saw to just make it back stock.
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: man of stihl on July 07, 2014, 11:30:03 pm
Good luck finding used plastic covers....
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: Jason K on July 08, 2014, 12:52:02 am
660 I am lost I look at parts tree and they came out with a CS2165 in 2003.Now they make a 2165 in 2001.. Please help



Thanks
Jason
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: 660magnum on July 08, 2014, 01:37:12 am
I sent you a parts list in your hot mail
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: Jason K on July 08, 2014, 01:08:43 pm
I knew CS stood for chain saw. That what it says on the recoil cover. Is it reallly worth putting money in it being it is missing parts and have no clue why it was parted out? Oh another thing it has limiter caps on the carb so that makes it a EPA model then? I am thinking of maybe ditching all my jonsereds becouse I seen that the prices of the part have jumped a lot. Like the pistion and cylinder. Plus who knows how long they are going around being that they are with a different disturber now. All the dealers around no longer sell them. It is either echo or dolmar they changed to now. Let me know your thoughts on this.

Thanks
Jason
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: srcarr52 on July 08, 2014, 02:42:02 pm
I knew CS stood for chain saw. That what it says on the recoil cover. Is it reallly worth putting money in it being it is missing parts and have no clue why it was parted out? Oh another thing it has limiter caps on the carb so that makes it a EPA model then? I am thinking of maybe ditching all my jonsereds becouse I seen that the prices of the part have jumped a lot. Like the pistion and cylinder. Plus who knows how long they are going around being that they are with a different disturber now. All the dealers around no longer sell them. It is either echo or dolmar they changed to now. Let me know your thoughts on this.

Thanks
Jason

Any AM Husqvarna 372 piston/cylinder should the case.  It may not work with the carb/intake you have if you're doesn't have the rubber boot style intake.  It's an easy swap to the 372 style intake though.
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: Cut4fun on July 08, 2014, 03:17:43 pm
I'd redo it.   Used jonsered covers are out there. Could always use husky covers if your own saw. Like Jim said if jonsered tank, must use jred handle. Husky tank you can use husky handle.
Can used husky parts for everything else that isnt red and black. Internal parts etc.

Jonsered 2165 IPL    http://www.jonsered.com/ddoc/JONI/JONI2002_AAaa/JONI2002_AAaa_106244465.pdf

Check that big end crank rod for play in bearing or bluing.  Also check for roughness in crank bearings. 

Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: Jason K on July 08, 2014, 08:25:47 pm
Well I checked the big end crank rod for play in bearing or bluing none .  Also check for roughness in crank bearings don't know it is stiff. I did a compression test it is 140 psi. I don't know if it from sitting so long or what. The person who had sure did run it rich on oil. The top of the pistion black and oily looking. I think I will put a new ring in it and other parts will get it going I hope..Now is it a epa model??? I am sure it is being it has limiters on the carb.I thought I would ask to make sure.  Oh how does a person get the carbon off the piston and top of the cylinder? Sea Foam?? I am not going to hone the cylinder being about every dealer I know of told me no being it will just take out the ring becouse it will not get clean enough I don't know if that is false or true. I would like to know on the epa and too hone or not too hone? Thanks for the IPLS guys.It helped out.What made me lost os the fact it is 2165 not a CS2165.I think someone put another recoil on it off a cs2165 do not know don't care it works..lol. Input on the epa, how to remove carbon on top of the cylinder ( I never done it before I would like to know how too do it) and too hone it or not and what grit too use for a hone if so.

Thanks agian everone you all been helpful with this matter

Jason
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: man of stihl on July 08, 2014, 08:32:49 pm
No on the hone....140 psi is OK for that saw. I wouldn't mess with it unless the carbon is giving you a false reading. Dremel and a wire brush will take care of the carbon.
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: 660magnum on July 08, 2014, 10:14:03 pm
It's a EPA saw but remove the limiters and don't worry about anything else EPA.
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: Jason K on July 08, 2014, 11:09:49 pm
You all should see the pistion on that it looks new. No ware what so ever. I am going to leave like man of stihl said. 660 That is what I thought but wanted to make sure thank you. I am going to order what I need and try it see what happens that is all what I can do all for now. My wife is going to kill me on what I spent on saws this month..lol. Oh well I loved saws always I did ;D. Thanks for all the help everyone


Jason
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: 660magnum on July 09, 2014, 12:27:45 am
;D  ;D
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: Jason K on July 09, 2014, 12:41:12 am
Got everything ordered.. ;D


Thanks
Jason
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: 660magnum on July 09, 2014, 01:30:44 am
I have several Husqvarna 365 Specials and the two that I use are great saws for felling and cutting up tree trunks. They only differ from the 372XP by the bore.
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: Jason K on July 09, 2014, 02:38:57 pm
Man of stihl.. I did find a used top cover from chainsawr...Sound like it will make a good saw being your Husqvarna 365 Specials used for that. Now I need to find a 066 or a husqvarna equal to the 066 saw to fix up. I have a new dual port factory Stihl muffler for one. I had one in parts but it was to far gone to fix up :'(.  So I will be looking for another fixer upper. ;D
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: 660magnum on July 09, 2014, 02:41:56 pm
A Husqvarna 395 would be about the same as a Stihl 660

2095 Turbo
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 09, 2014, 02:44:02 pm
add 394 husky to that search list too. 
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: Jason K on July 09, 2014, 07:17:52 pm
Where do I look for one. Ebay is crazy on prices they ask I know that. Around hear there are no huskys that big unless a tree service has one. It is mostly Stihls and some Jonsereds around here. To find one never. I been looking many years for one that size. Mostly 45cc to 50cc that need repairs plus they are ran in to the ground. The 066 I found was from ebay that was about 9 years ago.So if you know of one let me know ok



Thanks
Jason
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: 660magnum on July 09, 2014, 07:32:14 pm
Craig's list?

Set up bookmarks for good searches on Ebay and craig's list that you check every day. Like on Ebay just the new ones in the last 24 hrs.

There's a good one comes along every once and a while
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: Jason K on July 09, 2014, 09:23:05 pm
I always check craig's list for them just never see them. I even look at cities that are over 150 miles away nothing. I have pawn shops looking in the cities. I call dealers every other week to see what they have nothing or box store stuff I don't care about. Mostly around where I live it is corn and soy bean fields no big trees just cotton woods is the biggest it goes.I live on a farm but I don't farm no more I rent out the land. I would give anything to have a 395 or a 066 that would be worth rebuilding. I been looking snice I was in my teens..lol.. Just all junk out there either parts are N/A all together and shot or all  45ccs and a dran few 50ccs. The 576xp I got picked off of dealer about 2 years ago he was the only one to sell husky around here for over 100 miles. Everything is all green poulans. And if it is a Stihl they never trade in fix and the same goes with jonsereds. Like I said there is not any good dealers all box store like wally world crap. There is a ton of Stihl dealer around almost in every mid town sized now. The closest city to me is 90 miles away. I live in the middle of farm country and small towns like 800-2000 pop..lol.. I would really like to have a nice big saw to have the rush of the power ;D. But I never give up ;).

Jason
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: 660magnum on July 09, 2014, 09:48:49 pm
Check out some of the timber guys around there. It is not worthwhile for a timber cutter to have a saw more than a couple years as a front line saw.

I don't know where you live but you can bookmark a Craig's list search for just Husqvarna and just in Abilene, KA for example.

I never found anything I was looking for right away. It would take me a year to stumble upon something worthwhile. 
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: Jason K on July 10, 2014, 11:50:10 pm
Yea I search the list that way to in 5 cities around for years. Nothing that is worth anything. Like I said all box store stuff on there. I still look every other day thou. Every tree person I know they run them in to the ground and fix.. Tight butts I tell you they never let anything go.I tried alot over the years. I found a jonsred early 625 for 300 in good shape. I don't think it would be worth it . Being I am redoing my 2165. What do you think? I found it on ebay. I did think about putting a 670 p&s on it. But I would have more in then what it would be worth. I would not mind to have another 70cc saw. I got that 576xp.Yes I can not get enough saw..lol ;D.. I have my share of 45-50's. 2- 60cc ones. I would not mind having that 362xp on here for sale that looks new. I love to rebuild is my troubles.. ;D.. Long day been up snice 4 am. Time to hit the sac.

Jason
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: 660magnum on July 10, 2014, 11:55:55 pm
Your 2165 will be good enough as it is
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: Jason K on July 11, 2014, 01:12:06 pm
That is what I was thinking.. I can't wait to se if it runs. I well let all know when I get it going. It will be a 3 weeks before the parts show up so. It mite be a bit.




Thanks
Jason
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: Jason K on July 12, 2014, 06:55:29 pm
How does a person put up pix on here. I would like to post up some pix of this 2165. Just to show how much of a oil pig it is. Plus the pistion on how nice it is.

Thanks
Jason
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: 660magnum on July 12, 2014, 08:07:12 pm
Use the blue "REPLY" at the bottom of this post instead of the "Quick Reply" box.

At the bottom of the editor there is an area That says "ATTACH:"

Below that is a box and inside the square there is a smaller square with the word "Browse" inside it.

If you click on browse, it will show your picture directory and you select one of your pictures.

Sometimes the pictures are too big.
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: Jason K on July 19, 2014, 09:21:17 am
I will post pix of it sooner or later. Just been busy. Is it worth reringing it being it has 140psi.. What should it be for psi in the cylinder. I think 140 psi is a bit to low. But know nothing on this saw 2165. Let me know


Thanks
Jason
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: 660magnum on July 19, 2014, 09:32:03 am
They were not know to have high compression numbers.

It is in pretty good shape.
Title: Re: CS2165 Turbo is it worth it or not
Post by: Oliver1655 on August 09, 2014, 11:38:21 pm
Look at the trading sections of forums. 

There are several forums which have saws of all sizes & models for sale.  One advantage is the members will generally treat you right.  If there is a questionable ad, other members are quick to call it out & save you from having a poor experience.

You may not find the exceptional deal, but your risk of a bad deal is much smaller.