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Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Solo => Topic started by: KilliansRedLeo on July 09, 2014, 12:07:24 pm

Title: Solo 665 Closed Quad Port Cylinder
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on July 09, 2014, 12:07:24 pm
Just got in a couple jugs from Shep, a Solo 665 and a stock Dolmar 6400 OP. Kevin wanted to see the Solo jug compared to the Dolmar so will put up some pictures in a bit.
Title: Re: Solo 665 Closed Quad Port Cylinder
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 09, 2014, 12:51:49 pm
Sweet on the solo 665 jug look see.  8) ;D
Title: Re: Solo 665 Closed Quad Port Cylinder
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on July 09, 2014, 12:56:43 pm
Here are some pics. The Solo 665 on the left Dolmar 6400 on the right. Both use the same 47mm piston, the base is definately thicker on the Solo jug and the decomps are in different positions.
Title: Re: Solo 665 Closed Quad Port Cylinder
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on July 09, 2014, 01:04:07 pm
here are a few more
Title: Re: Solo 665 Closed Quad Port Cylinder
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 09, 2014, 01:08:57 pm
Very nice and thanks for taking the time to post here.
Title: Re: Solo 665 Closed Quad Port Cylinder
Post by: 660magnum on July 09, 2014, 01:12:33 pm
You're ging to need to set up a 665 jug on a 6400 and see how it compares?
Title: Re: Solo 665 Closed Quad Port Cylinder
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 09, 2014, 01:25:11 pm
I dont think a 665 jug will work right on a 6400 with that 1mm less in stroke difference without taking that 665 cylinder down on a mill lathe or something.   I'm thinking timing will be off.

Thank how huge the squish will be. If I am thinking right.
Title: Re: Solo 665 Closed Quad Port Cylinder
Post by: 660magnum on July 09, 2014, 01:31:05 pm
Yes the jug would have to be chucked up on a mandrel and the base turned down and the port height adjusted

The cylinder would have to be used on a Dolmar from then - on
Title: Re: Solo 665 Closed Quad Port Cylinder
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on July 09, 2014, 01:33:08 pm
I agree Kevin since the bases of the jugs are different Dolmar is 0.265 and Solo 0.290 a difference of about 0.635mm. Squish would be huge and timing would be way off.
Title: Re: Solo 665 Closed Quad Port Cylinder
Post by: Cut4fun on July 09, 2014, 02:11:40 pm
Old post of mine that was shared with me from Dan. Solo Dolmar deal.

Here is some info that was passed on by a solo,dolmar,redmax dealer when the 681 first arrived.
I have found in my own experience that it is difficult to find a local dealer for solo and that the online parts ordering doesn't seem to work for the 681. This was when the 681 was first released.

(((((The new Solo 681 is now here, 81cc (80.7) same basic weight as the 7900 but with some major improvements.
The 681 has a larger air filter then the 7900, that is why the air filter cover is shaped a little different.
681 also has the good Walbo carburetor not the typical cheap Zama from China like the Dolmar.
681 has the side chain tensioner in the case like a Stihl not in the side cover like Dolmar.
681 also has a large top AV spring. The Dolmar had problems with them breaking.
681 also has a better bracket set up on the AV mount to the top handle. 681 bracket is bolted to the top cover. The Dolmar has a strap that wraps around the handle and it is always turning and putting stress on the top av spring.
681 has a two year YES TWO YEAR commercial warranty.
Parts for the Dolmar are a problem, you have to find a dealer.
Parts for a Solo can be ordered online from Solo at the same price they cost from the dealer.
At first you will think that it is built by Dolmar. That is not the case. This saw is built by Solo. Solo does sell the large Dolmar 9010, they call it the 694 but the 681 and its smaller sisters 675, 665 are Solo built.
From what I understand is that Dolmar did not design all of the 7900. Solo designed a lot of the parts for that saw. They were to be sold together in joint venture like the large Dolmar 9010.
Dolmar took all of the credit for the 7900 and Solo got the shaft.
Solo took it one step farther and made the same basic saw with a larger engine and a few improvements.
OK I have had a lot of questions about installing the 681 parts on the 7900 to make it 81cc.
Both of the above saws have the same bore size of 52mm. The 681 jug will bolt right on the 7900 case the muffler and carb boot will line right up but the jug is taller to accommodate the longer stroke so you will loose compression with the 7900 crank. I am sure that you can put the 681 crank in the 7900 case. That is a lot of work and with the cost of the crank and labor its not economically feasible.
   
   

Title: Re: Solo 665 Closed Quad Port Cylinder
Post by: Cut4fun on July 09, 2014, 02:15:09 pm
key points from above.

At first you will think that it is built by Dolmar. That is not the case. This saw is built by Solo. Solo does sell the large Dolmar 9010, they call it the 694 but the 681 and its smaller sisters 675, 665 are Solo built.

From what I understand is that Dolmar did not design all of the 7900. Solo designed a lot of the parts for that saw. They were to be sold together in joint venture like the large Dolmar 9010.

Dolmar took all of the credit for the 7900 and Solo got the shaft.

Solo took it one step farther and made the same basic saw with a larger engine and a few improvements.
Title: Re: Solo 665 Closed Quad Port Cylinder
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 09, 2014, 03:00:10 pm
Dang Tim you going to share all those Solo boxes in front of your house.   ;D ;) 8)
Title: Re: Solo 665 Closed Quad Port Cylinder
Post by: KilliansRedLeo on July 09, 2014, 05:07:37 pm
That is actually the door to the shop not my home. Yes, I did not keep even one for myself. Unless something changes they are all already sold.  Randy Evens wants one, Adam Artzer wants 2 and the other six went to guys on FHC. They are all new with warranty but no bars. To my knowledge they were the only ones left in the country. Even Solo in VA does not have any nor can they get any. I suspect Adam Artzer wants them for the stroked crank but don't know.
Title: Re: Solo 665 Closed Quad Port Cylinder
Post by: adam32 on July 09, 2014, 05:31:59 pm
That is actually the door to the shop not my home. Yes, I did not keep even one for myself. Unless something changes they are all already sold.  Randy Evens wants one, Adam Artzer wants 2 and the other six went to guys on FHC. They are all new with warranty but no bars. To my knowledge they were the only ones left in the country. Even Solo in VA does not have any nor can they get any. I suspect Adam Artzer wants them for the stroked crank but don't know.

Yeah probably one into a 4 cube racer (even tho its a tiny bit over) and the other either I'll port and make it into a work saw or send it to Adam Clarke for a 7900 top end racer...
Title: Re: Solo 665 Closed Quad Port Cylinder
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 09, 2014, 06:03:49 pm
Tim, nice shop then too.
Title: Re: Solo 665 Closed Quad Port Cylinder
Post by: DexterDay on July 11, 2014, 11:12:16 pm
That is actually the door to the shop not my home. Yes, I did not keep even one for myself. Unless something changes they are all already sold.  Randy Evens wants one, Adam Artzer wants 2 and the other six went to guys on FHC. They are all new with warranty but no bars. To my knowledge they were the only ones left in the country. Even Solo in VA does not have any nor can they get any. I suspect Adam Artzer wants them for the stroked crank but don't know.

I thank you again for making one of these available to me.  ;D

Lots of good info here on these saws.  :)