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Title: Poulan s-25
Post by: Al Smith on July 19, 2011, 03:21:06 pm
Before Stihl came out with the 020 and it's forms later to be the 020T and Ms 200T this little saw was "the " climbing saw .

2.3 cubic inchs ,plenty of power and built tough as leather .I had my original out today just to blow the cobwebs out and even after all these years that thing still amazes me .Starts on 4 or 5 after sitting for 6 months,always .Not the zip of a 200T but not bad at all for over 30 years old .

These things now of days are a 25-30 dollar saw because not too many people ever even heard of them .
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Cut4fun on July 19, 2011, 06:08:17 pm
I have no time behind the older poulan top handles. But I had bought a poulan 2000 new for $99 - $129 (cant remember)  in  94 or 95. Saw is still in service with my dad on the land down south.  So far only needed a coil and fuel lines.

Since then I have ran the XXV and the little brother 1800 30cc and they are all good cheap limbers IMHO.

 Now one thing I have noticed since getting spoiled with other top handles. Dang those things vibrates the heck out of my hands compared to the ones with the nice anti vibe now days.

Now I found a top handle poulan 2000 that was made to be a rear handle trim saw like the 200 is, poulan 2100 33cc. Now that thing is smooth with it's coil spring AV and light like the top handles.
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Al Smith on July 19, 2011, 06:52:32 pm
Yep they shake rattle and roll .This is why the handles are taped up on the orange one .It wasn't so much they'd make the hands tingle .More so because I never wore gloves it would raise a blister .
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Cut4fun on July 20, 2011, 01:14:37 pm
Poulan 20 XX   I didnt really care for the design of XX. Running wires from the flywheel side over the cylinder to clutch side points.

Poulan XX is one in front Poulan 2000 one in rear.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/XXand2000.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Cut4fun . on July 20, 2011, 01:58:40 pm
I've never seen a chain brake on a S25DA  S25CVA before.   http://cgi.ebay.com/POULAN-S25DA-S25CVA-3-8-PITCH-CHAIN-BRAKE-KIT-/360381109713?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e86355d1
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Al Smith on July 20, 2011, 09:12:25 pm
Well good luck to them .That price is normally what an S-25 sells for the whole saw .
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Cut4fun on July 23, 2011, 12:06:42 am
I sent this XXV to a poulan collector. Anyone know what was so special about the XXV Micro Deluxe?

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2100/CopyofXXV002.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2100/CopyofXXV001.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2100/CopyofXXV003.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2100/CopyofXXV004.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Al Smith on July 23, 2011, 07:05:13 am
They're just a trim the apple tree in the back yard type of saw .Poulans answer to a Mini Mac or Homelite XL-2 .In that case the Poulan would be the better choice . Nothing special other than the fact that one seems to be in excellant shape .
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Modifiedmark on August 05, 2011, 11:52:39 pm
The original Micro came with a 10" bar and the Deluxe model came next and it sported a 12" bar.
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Cut4fun on August 06, 2011, 09:12:36 am
The original Micro came with a 10" bar and the Deluxe model came next and it sported a 12" bar.

Thats good to know. I made sure I sent one of these 10" and 12" hognose bars I had to the guy I traded 2 saws to. I  also sent a 12" hognose to blsnelling for a little poulan restore he was doing.   

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/hognose.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Al Smith on August 06, 2011, 02:48:06 pm
  I have an earlier version of the micro,Craftsman style .It has a 12" with a Stihl chain on it .As a matter of fact it really  isn't a bad little climbing saw and what I used before I had the Stihl 200T's .

It's lighter that a 200 but it of course doesn't have as much power . Two dollar auction special . ;D
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Al Smith on August 07, 2011, 03:29:36 pm
For some reason or another I can't get pictures  to load .Any way I've got this little red rascal that is kind of like the older saw in reply number 3 of this thread .

It has a thumb oiler which I managed to screw up the button and a fixed jet carb I'd like to replace .I have no idea what the Poulan model is  but assume it to be an early version of the XX .If I knew the model I could find the parts no doubt .
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Al Smith on August 07, 2011, 03:34:16 pm
Belay my last,it's a 20 (XX) .I had forgoten I had sent it to Mike .  http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/ae246e47416ddc0588256bfc000d0cc0?OpenDocument
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 07, 2011, 03:46:13 pm
Wish I had knew Al. I shipped a whole non running XX parts saw I was stealing from away to another needing parts. All out of XX now days.

The carbs I had for XX had H and L fully adjustable. I think Tilleys. I might have a carb kit and a old carb if I didnt give them away too. Check your carb and see what you have on your red xx.
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Al Smith on August 07, 2011, 06:49:58 pm
According to what Mike says it's a Tllley HU 22A .In looking in my Tillotson book it doesn't list that carb but I suspect either 5/16 or 3/8 venturi . With that in mind it would take either a Hu 27 or 28 to get to a carb with both needles in those sizes .Walbro maybe from a weed wacker seeings that saw is a tiny 1.86 cubic inch .

I have a couple junk wackers in the shed I'll take a peek at when I get a chance .
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Modifiedmark on August 27, 2011, 09:58:16 pm
I  have a few of these 25's and S25's.

Like Al said earlier they were the best back then and still great today.

Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Modifiedmark on August 27, 2011, 09:59:53 pm
Here is a pretty rare one.
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 27, 2011, 11:31:23 pm
Never heard of that relabeled one. Heck I dont even have a clue on pronounce it.  :-[
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Al Smith on August 28, 2011, 05:59:07 am
They came in every color of the rainbow .Oddly the off colors sold for less than the ones that said Poulan .Poulan didn't care because they made money no matter who marketed them .

Homelite and McCulloch did the same thing with selling knock offs .Mac with the PM 610 and Homey with the XL-12 .

There must still be a few around because if I'm not mistaked Baileys still sell the spur sprockets and also I think you can still find them in the original 1/4" chain  size as well as 3/8" low .
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Modifiedmark on August 28, 2011, 07:57:41 am
Never heard of that relabeled one. Heck I dont even have a clue on pronounce it.  :-[

Thats from a brick and morter and mail order house from the 70's. Its pronounced ALL-Dens.

Kev, ask your mom, she probably shopped from there Catalog. I know mine did.
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Modifiedmark on August 28, 2011, 08:00:29 am
Here are a couple more.
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Cut4fun on August 28, 2011, 09:51:25 am
Never seen a silver Ridged one either.  Just how big has your collection of different poulans gotten?  :o
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Al Smith on August 28, 2011, 09:53:17 am
The Dayton model appears to be one of the later models with a kind of anti vib built in .Most all of the s-25 models I've seen have all been rigid mount .
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Modifiedmark on August 28, 2011, 08:57:31 pm
The Dayton model appears to be one of the later models with a kind of anti vib built in .Most all of the s-25 models I've seen have all been rigid mount .

There were plenty of both models. The one I posted is actually a S25CVA.
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Modifiedmark on August 28, 2011, 08:59:29 pm
Never seen a silver Ridged one either.  Just how big has your collection of different poulans gotten?  :o

Lets just say that the collection is still growing. I have 2 other Ridgid saws, one is a 306A, the other a XX deluxe.

There were 5 rebadged all together, I'm missing the standard XX and the 4200.
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Modifiedmark on August 28, 2011, 09:11:09 pm
I just remembered this one! This is interesting as this was rebadged for Jonsereds before all the Elux take overs.

Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Cut4fun . on August 29, 2011, 06:43:08 am
Lil Jon now thats funny.

 Do you have the little poulan with the coolest paint job IMO. It's the XX turned into a Poulan 76 Bicentennial edition. Larry had brought one to the 07 GTG so I could get a close look of the decal and paint job.

Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Modifiedmark on August 29, 2011, 07:21:23 pm
Yep I got one of those! Need to get around to get it up and running sometime.
 I agree with the cool part, I was a Junior in HS when these came out along with BiCentinial everything!
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: brokenbudget on September 14, 2011, 07:22:55 pm
i love my widdle poulan :) picked it up at a yard sale for 15 bucks. hadn't ran in 10 years.
(http://i52.tinypic.com/28wkuh4.jpg)

(http://i54.tinypic.com/2i92e4x.jpg)
(http://i53.tinypic.com/dxqqg.jpg)

after a carb kit and fuel line, she runs goodly 8)
notice the custom blue bar on 'er ;D that makes it faster :D
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Al Smith on September 15, 2011, 12:51:13 pm
They didn't change them much over the years .Evidently that Craftsman version was later in production  with a solid state coil .When they went to solid state I have no idea .

If nothing else if a guy was in the tree biz one or two of these if kept for nothing but a back up saw or extra ground saw would certanly be worth the few pennys they sell for .FWIW I'll bet as many of these things were used as light duty firewooders as were for climbers . While they are of top handle design they aren't a true top handle and in fact don't handle real well with one hand although we all know nobody would do that . ;)

I suppose the bad thing is they have no brake which would make some people squimish about operating them .Old farts like myself it wouldn't bother though having been brought up in the day before brakes .
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: brokenbudget on September 15, 2011, 03:48:46 pm
 :) oh yeah, even with the bar/chain off of it, the saw will give the old wrist a twist if one isn't careful. sort of front heavy. pretty funny, these will really put the run on a stihl 200 :D they aren't far behind in the same wood i find. hmmm, wonder if that accelerator pump carb would fit? wonder if it would be an improvment or a hinderance ;D
BAH! can't be bothered with a good running chainsaw ;D
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Al Smith on September 15, 2011, 06:00:32 pm
I don't know if I mentioned this or not .I have an  original Stihl 020Av top handle in the shed .This is the forerunner of the 020T and Ms 200T .

In comparision which I've done with a Poulan s-25  the Poulan weighs just  tad less and cuts just nearly neck and neck with the Stihl .Fact might have a leg up , pretty close though .

I can't help but wonder why in the world they stopped making this model .If it were available yet today with perhaps some anti vib and a brake it could be a contender in the small saw market I do believe . Might not pass the EPA stuff perhaps ???
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: North West Farmer on October 06, 2011, 04:46:03 am
This is my first post to this forum.  I have been on TBN for a short while and have really enjoyed it.

In following this thread I realized I have two of those Poulan Micro XXV's.  One is actually a red Craftsman, but the two saws are nearly completely identical in every way. 

Have been switching parts back and forth between the two saws for years and always had one running.  A couple years ago I acquired several newer saws so the little Poulan/Craftsman are sitting on the shelf.  They both have common weakness, at least that I have found.

The automatic oiler system using an engine case pressure chamber and a foam cover/filter to regulate the oil flow rate was always fairly phony, but it got me by as long as I kept the foam in shape.

They both have been subject to developing fuel line leaks and on a couple of occasions I actually found pin holes in the long plastic line that goes from the fuel tank up through the handle to the carb. 

Over the long haul they seemed to require carb adjustments to maintain a good idle combined with strong uptake on throttling up.

For their age, they are great little saws.  After seeing this post I am going to attempt to get them both up and running before the end of winter.

This has been a very good reminder of some forgotten goodies.

Nick, North West farmer
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Al Smith on October 06, 2011, 05:04:58 am
The little micro's weren't quite the saw the s-25 were . I think they were Poulans answer to the Homelite XL2's and McCulloch mini macs . As such they were probabley the better choice of the three .

Ha a couple days ago a counter vib model of the s-25 popped up on flea bay .I was tempted but as it is I'm up to my hip pockets in saws already .
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: OhioGregg on October 16, 2011, 11:42:03 am
Thought I would add this pic of my S25's. The only "different" one, would be the Poulan Pro version. It has a ring at the back, for climbing purposes, and the clutch cover is longer, to cover the muffler. Other than that, still the same old saw. :)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f201/Gregg500/S25DA001.jpg)

Gregg,
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: OhioGregg on October 16, 2011, 02:57:55 pm
Forgot to add. The Poulan Pro saws usually have a date on them. Something that the older green Poulans did not unfortunatly.  Mine has a date of 1996. So they made that model, S25DA, a long time!

Gregg,
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 16, 2011, 03:32:15 pm
Forgot to add. The Poulan Pro saws usually have a date on them. Something that the older green Poulans did not unfortunatly.  Mine has a date of 1996. So they made that model, S25DA, a long time!

Gregg,

When I was looking for a little trim saw in 94-95 I didnt see that PP one. I did end up with a new  2000 back then. 

I gave the 2000 to dad and it is still in use today. Fuel lines, carb kit  and coil change, I put one from a homelite super 240 in it.
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Al Smith on October 18, 2011, 05:14:08 am
I have no idea when the original s-25 hit the market .I believe my original which was marketed by Dayton was around 1975 .I have a lime green one in the shed that is old enough it doesn't have muffler ,only a stub exhaust with a spark arrester .

Ha I found a green one on flea bay for my wifes cousin ,about 40 bucks shipped .He brought it over the other night because it tossed the screws for the recoil which is just something they do for some reason .Easy fix .

He commented that since  owning that little gem he's cut more firewood with no problems other than the screws than any saw he's ever owned .Three years so far and it's never failed to start or run good .

He has a bad back and a little saw like this works real well for him .

It seems that once again I have to change the fuel line on mine but I really can't complain .Twice since 1975 .
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Al Smith on October 18, 2011, 06:11:08 pm
Well I'll be a monkeys' uncle .Would you believe the carb finally gave up the ghost .After some 36 years no less . ;D

I had another Tilley HU kit so after about 15 20 minutes back up and running again just like a new one .36 years a has to be some kind of a record I would think .
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Cut4fun on February 07, 2014, 03:03:21 pm
I seen Aaron posted what this Jobu 35    SL35B was   

Like the difference stickers on them for talk here, Like   Jobu 49 and 49S I tried to add when I was into the 5000 500 590 490 325 series of saws.

Deserves to be saved here IMO.
Title: Re: Poulan s-25
Post by: Eccentric on February 07, 2014, 05:41:44 pm
Yep.  We don't see JOBU branded saws much here in the US.  That's a Poulan S25-CVA.  Looks to have a chainbrake too.  Don't see many of those south of the US/CAN border either.