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Title: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 22, 2014, 12:44:18 pm
Husqvarna 242xp 242 etc. OK folks with all the talk of this little guys lately. I want to learn more about them and their variants.

Open or closed cylinders bore etc.    pistons too

238 is smaller bore then 242  and 242 smaller bore then 246?  Do they all used the same crankcase or just 242 and 246?

School is in session. Teach  ;)

Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 22, 2014, 12:52:47 pm
So are these PHO 242 weight even close to being right? 

http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/990510ff0205ff2388256d09001f7e0c?OpenDocument

ENGINE DISPLACEMENT:
      42 cc (2.5 cu. in.)
NUMBER OF CYLINDERS:
      1
CYLINDER BORE:
      42 mm (1.65 in.)
PISTON STROKE:
      30 mm (1.49 in.)
CYLINDER TYPE:
      Aluminum with chrome plated bore
INTAKE METHOD:
      Piston ported
MANUFACTURER ADVERTISED H.P.:
      3.1 hp (2.3 kW)
WEIGHT:
      4.7 kg (10.3 lbs.), powerhead only


242XP    42    42    30           10.3    1    1    2,700    15,500    

42    -    42    42    30       -    10    1    1    2,700    14,500    
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 22, 2014, 12:54:35 pm
Technical Specification
Chain Saws, Power Cutters and Stump Grinder

http://www.husqvarna.com/ddoc/husi/husi1998_aaaa/husi1998_aaaa_i9800063_.pdf


owners manual 42 242xp 242 246  http://www.husqvarna.com/ddoc/HUSO/HUSO1999_EUenAPen/HUSO1999_EUenAPen__1018926-26.pdf
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 22, 2014, 12:55:35 pm
husqvarna 42 special  hmmmmm same as 42?
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 22, 2014, 12:58:10 pm
husqvarna 42 42D 242 workshop manual  service manual link  http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&ved=0CF0QFjAK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mymowerparts.com%2Fpdf%2FHusqvarna-Service-Repair-Manuals%2FW9500002.pdf&ei=c81wVLqePKbCsASYyoDAAw&usg=AFQjCNEXnHPb79ilirdyJH5xg7lkg0KXSg&sig2=2fuvhHyow23r04omZwya6Q&bvm=bv.80185997,d.cWc&cad=rja

42D ?
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 22, 2014, 01:06:17 pm
digging

According to Husqvarna

242SE = 2.3KW/3.1Hp.
42 = 2,1Kw/2,9Hp.
242XP = 2,4KW/3,3Hp.
242XP Cat = 2,3KW
246XP = 2,3KW
246XP Cat = 2,3Kw

42 Special has same piston cylinder as 242xp



Info look right?

Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: SawTroll on November 22, 2014, 01:26:37 pm
husqvarna 42 special  hmmmmm same as 42?

It is, as far as I know the "special" designation was just marketing in this case.

The open port models in that "family" are the 42 and the 246, all the others (133se, 234se, 238se, 242, 242xp) are closed port. I know nothing about the pistons. The 42 and 246 were supposed to be less costly (and less "aggressive") altenatives to the 242/242xp.

The most interesting model is of course the 242/242xp, as that one was in production for a long time, and vent trough more development during production - and publised specs have varied a bit. The forst xp ones (about 1991-1994) were pretty much the same saw as the 242, while more sunstandial "updates" took Place around 1994.

I am not by any means an expert on those saws, just have picked up some info here and there.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: SawTroll on November 22, 2014, 01:33:25 pm
digging

According to Husqvarna

242SE = 2.3KW/3.1Hp.
42 = 2,1Kw/2,9Hp.
242XP = 2,4KW/3,3Hp.
242XP Cat = 2,3KW
246XP = 2,3KW
246XP Cat = 2,3Kw

42 Special has same piston cylinder as 242xp



Info look right?



Except for your comment on the 42 Special P&C, that fits well with my overall impression, even though the Kw mumber for the 242xp sometimes is listed as 2.3kW. That differense may or may not have happened around 1994 - see my post above.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: computeruser on November 22, 2014, 03:30:41 pm
My understanding is that the crankcases are the same and that the main distinguishing feature is the P/C between the models.  There appears to be some difference over the years in which carbs were used.  Whether this also means differences in intake blocks, air filter necks, various linkages and parts, I could not say, though the various IPL could surely answer that question.

My understanding is that 234 and 238 were closed-port models, also.  Both P/C are NLA so far as I am aware.  Some long-time users of these models report that the behavior of the 238 in real world use hit a sweet spot and was preferred to the 242, even though the 242 developed a bit more power.

I did post (and received no info in response) over on AS inquiring as to production numbers.  It seems that 242 and 246 were fairly common, 42 and 42special (which I understood to have the same P/C as the 242, though not confirmed by #s) are nearly as common, and the rest are pretty darned rare here in the US and in the midwest, particularly.  Eastern Canada and Maine appeared to be places where these saws were popular in commercial use.

I'm not sure about the weight specs.  If I had a good scale and the patience to drain the cold bar oil, I could go out to the garage and figure it out.  I do know that side by side with a 346xp (NE), the size and weight difference is noticeable, both running the same b/c setup.  And for some reason, the metal chainbrake handle models within this family feel noticeably heavier than the plastic chainbrake versions, out of proportion to the actual difference in weight between the two clutch covers/brakes.

The thing that many of the specification-lovers miss in this is that these saws occupy a unique position in terms of handling.  It is tough to describe in words, but you can flick these saws back and forth, side to side, faster than the 346 or 026 or other similar models, and they feel so much more solid than the other 35-45cc homeowner saws, even though the weights are probably pretty darned close. Factor in throttle response compared to the homeowner saws of similar weight and size, and the fact that you're comparing apples and oranges is pretty clear. 

Power-wise, nobody will dispute that they are not the most powerful saws out there, or even within their displacement class.  I had a mildly ported white top 44 a while back and while it had a real edge over the 238 in the firewood pile, just as the 346 has, neither the 44 or even the 346 can make that claim when working in the woods.  So if your work involves cutting lots of little stuff - small tree thinning operations, felling and then limbing smaller-sized conifers, or in my case, cutting large stands of buckthorn trees that are usually 0-6" diameter into manageable pieces for groups of volunteers to drag away - the saws in this family have a handling advantage that makes up for being a bit low on power and torque compared to other saws that are usually considered to be in the same class.  If you are going to be operating in bigger wood, or wanting to run a 16-18" bar, then it is probably not the saw platform best suited to your needs.

A couple of mine:
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e113/michiganpowerequipment/Husqvarna_TwinsMedium_zps7ac11989.jpg) (http://s38.photobucket.com/user/michiganpowerequipment/media/Husqvarna_TwinsMedium_zps7ac11989.jpg.html)




Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Old Iron Logging on November 22, 2014, 04:19:16 pm
The 246 was my favorite of the bunch. Made a living with them for 10 plus years. Prefered the 246 to 242 as it had better torque. My 2 ported 246's were equal to a stock 346. Probably the toughest saws I ever used. That limbing video I did years back was a 246.

My favorite new saw the 241 lacks the speed of the 242/246 but blows them away with torque.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Old Iron Logging on November 22, 2014, 04:27:57 pm
stock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV-P-ByQC8s&index=54&list=UUkUnnyfxnWdWB7BvGqtNbJw
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Old Iron Logging on November 22, 2014, 04:29:20 pm
EHP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtYlBtib4bg&index=53&list=UUkUnnyfxnWdWB7BvGqtNbJw
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Old Iron Logging on November 22, 2014, 04:30:07 pm
KRR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRQEniRTUg4&index=52&list=UUkUnnyfxnWdWB7BvGqtNbJw
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Old Iron Logging on November 22, 2014, 04:41:33 pm
This is what the 242 family excelled at.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwWOkJ_A6vI&list=UUkUnnyfxnWdWB7BvGqtNbJw
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: SawTroll on November 22, 2014, 04:43:40 pm
From another thread:

42 Special (http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/husqvarna/husqvarna-42-42-super/?message=14297)
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: weimedog on November 22, 2014, 04:55:21 pm
A new place where they can leak....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MESg4WYrj3s&list=UUD9l4lTAtiosSJnuxcXxdcg
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: stihlbro on November 22, 2014, 08:05:06 pm
(http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy232/jusmoen/Fifte%20rancher/20130126_152549.jpg)

Here is a picture for comparison.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: stihlbro on November 22, 2014, 08:15:12 pm
(http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy232/jusmoen/20130126_152517.jpg)
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: 660magnum on November 22, 2014, 08:30:51 pm
I have a ported 026 PRO. It is a sweetheart to use
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Old Iron Logging on November 23, 2014, 07:32:26 am
Checked my records from my logging days. Over 26,000 tanks of gas thru various 242/246 saws. Only weakness for me was roller on the throttle rod. It would wear and fall off. Always carried spares.

246G was my favorite of the lot.

I switched to the 242 family from the 254 family. Wood production went up. Not as tiring to use fo 9 hours in pulp.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: computeruser on November 23, 2014, 09:37:36 am
I switched to the 242 family from the 254 family. Wood production went up. Not as tiring to use fo 9 hours in pulp.


Holy ****!  STOP THE INTERNET!  Someone actually believes that a smaller, less powerful saw can be more productive?!  And this person has real world experience?!  Please don't share that with the "I have no need for any saw <70cc" crowd over at AS, it will start a riot!
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Bluegill on November 23, 2014, 12:18:49 pm
LOL... I switched to smaller saws (346xp) back in 01 and my production went up.  ;D  I ain't in the 70cc+ majority!

I think I'll be on the look out for one of the 242's or variant...
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: SawTroll on November 23, 2014, 12:49:09 pm
LOL... I switched to smaller saws (346xp) back in 01 and my production went up.  ;D  I ain't in the 70cc+ majority!

I think I'll be on the look out for one of the 242's or variant...

I'm not either, actually there are a lot of people there that aren't!  ;D
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Eccentric on November 23, 2014, 03:00:36 pm
So were there different 242 variants (242, 242SE, 242XP, etc)?  In people's posts, I see  the different model variations mentioned (sometimes in the same post).  What are the differences (if any) between a 242, 242SE, and 242XP?  I realize there were other models (42, 238, 246, etc).  I'm just specifically asking about the saws with "242" on 'em....
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: SawTroll on November 23, 2014, 05:28:17 pm
So were there different 242 variants (242, 242SE, 242XP, etc)?  In people's posts, I see  the different model variations mentioned (sometimes in the same post).  What are the differences (if any) between a 242, 242SE, and 242XP?  I realize there were other models (42, 238, 246, etc).  I'm just specifically asking about the saws with "242" on 'em....

The 242 never was marketed as SE, only as 242 and 242XP (similar story as the 254, some number tags may still have said SE). Also, the main differense was not between a late 242 and an early XP, but happened in 1994 or so, a few years into the XP designation period.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 24, 2014, 01:42:54 pm
IPL list with some dating.  Was there any other models we were looking for?

Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (1988-10)
Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (1992-03)
Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (1994-04)
Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (1994-12)


Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1984-01)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1985-05)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1985-11)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1986-02)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1986-10)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1987-04)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1987-11)

Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1987-06)
Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1989-05)
Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1990-01)
Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1994-04)
Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1998-05)
Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1998-06)

Husqvarna 246 Chainsaw (1994-12)
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: SawTroll on November 24, 2014, 02:01:52 pm
Since you include the 44 and 444, you could just as well include the older 140, 240, 340, 40 and 344 as well (some of those model numbers have been recycled on plasic cased saws later).....

None of those mentioned above are related to the 242, but they all are to each other.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 24, 2014, 02:12:30 pm
44 444 got in there by mistake LOL

I'll fix that.  ;)
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Eccentric on November 24, 2014, 03:11:01 pm
I'm surprised that the 042 and 242 were built during the same time periods.  Early 42's look to share most parts with the 242's of the same years, while later 42's look to instead share parts with the 246's produced during the same years.  The later 42's are grouped with the 246 on the IPL's.  Some late 42/246 saws had cat mufflers (yuk).
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Eccentric on November 24, 2014, 03:21:21 pm
IPL list with some dating.  Was there any other models we were looking for?

Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (1988-10)
Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (1992-03)
Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (1994-04)
Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (1994-12)*
Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (1995-02)*
Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (1998-08)*
Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (2001-10)*

Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1984-01)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1985-05)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1985-11)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1986-02)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1986-10)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1987-04)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1987-11)

Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1987-06)
Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1989-05)
Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1990-01)
Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1994-04)
Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1998-05)
Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1998-06)

Husqvarna 246 Chainsaw (1994-12)*
Husqvarna 246 Chainsaw (1995-02)*
Husqvarna 246 Chainsaw (1998-08)*
Husqvarna 246 Chainsaw (2001-10)*

IPL's with * are 'combination' IPL's for the 42 and 246.

I added a few IPL's to the list.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: weimedog on November 24, 2014, 11:20:32 pm
IPL list with some dating.  Was there any other models we were looking for?

Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (1988-10)
Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (1992-03)
Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (1994-04)
Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (1994-12)*
Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (1995-02)*
Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (1998-08)*
Husqvarna 42 Chainsaw (2001-10)*

Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1984-01)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1985-05)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1985-11)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1986-02)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1986-10)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1987-04)
Husqvarna 238 Chainsaw (1987-11)

Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1987-06)
Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1989-05)
Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1990-01)
Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1994-04)
Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1998-05)
Husqvarna 242 Chainsaw (1998-06)

Husqvarna 246 Chainsaw (1994-12)*
Husqvarna 246 Chainsaw (1995-02)*
Husqvarna 246 Chainsaw (1998-08)*
Husqvarna 246 Chainsaw (2001-10)*

IPL's with * are 'combination' IPL's for the 42 and 246.

I added a few IPL's to the list.

Good info. So was the 242xp ever just called  a 242 from Husqvarna?
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: weimedog on November 24, 2014, 11:24:26 pm
Husqvarna 242xp 242 etc. OK folks with all the talk of this little guys lately. I want to learn more about them and their variants.

Open or closed cylinders bore etc.    pistons too

238 is smaller bore then 242  and 242 smaller bore then 246?  Do they all used the same crankcase or just 242 and 246? ;)

I built my 238 with tank & plastic from a 42, also bought a bag of 40mm piston rings for that 238. Looks to me to be the same bottom end as the other saws in the series. My understanding is the bore & stroke on the 238 is bore 40mm x stroke 30mm and the 42 is 42mmx30mm. And the 42 is an open port design. 238se and 242xp are closed port cylinders....

Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: SawTroll on November 25, 2014, 07:36:14 am
44 444 got in there by mistake LOL

I'll fix that.  ;)
Ok - on the flip side, the 133 and 234 are missing from the list - the 133 was the original model of the "family" this is about!  ;)
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: SawTroll on November 25, 2014, 07:38:49 am
I'm surprised that the 042 and 242 were built during the same time periods.  Early 42's look to share most parts with the 242's of the same years, while later 42's look to instead share parts with the 246's produced during the same years.  The later 42's are grouped with the 246 on the IPL's.  Some late 42/246 saws had cat mufflers (yuk).

There was an e-tech (cat) version of the 242xp/242xpg as well, and back then it wasn't for EPA reasons.  ;)

The 42 (not 042) always was made to hit a lower price point than the 242. The 242 came out before the 42.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: SawTroll on November 25, 2014, 07:45:39 am

I built my 238 with tank & plastic from a 42, also bought a bag of 40mm piston rings for that 238. Looks to me to be the same bottom end as the other saws in the series. My understanding is the bore & stroke on the 238 is bore 40mm x stroke 30mm and the 42 is 42mmx30mm. And the 42 is an open port design. 238se and 242xp are closed port cylinders....


That is all as I thought it was - most notably that the 42 was open port - which the power specs also indicate.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: SawTroll on November 25, 2014, 07:54:11 am
Good info. So was the 242xp ever just called  a 242 from Husqvarna?

From earlier in this thread;

So were there different 242 variants (242, 242SE, 242XP, etc)?  In people's posts, I see  the different model variations mentioned (sometimes in the same post).  What are the differences (if any) between a 242, 242SE, and 242XP?  I realize there were other models (42, 238, 246, etc).  I'm just specifically asking about the saws with "242" on 'em....

The 242 never was marketed as SE, only as 242 and 242XP (similar story as the 254, some number tags may still have said SE). Also, the main differense was not between a late 242 and an early XP, but happened in 1994 or so, a few years into the XP designation period.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Eccentric on November 25, 2014, 03:33:12 pm
So......................................are there any meaningful differences between a 242 and 242XP (beyond decals/badging)? 
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: SawTroll on November 25, 2014, 04:46:53 pm
That picture is unclear to me, except that the max. power specs went up by some point, by .1 kw.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: David Young on December 02, 2014, 09:42:28 am
I think something may be different with some of the cases. I tried putting a 246 p and c on a 242 case and the piston will not clear

42 and 42 special is open port.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: 660magnum on December 02, 2014, 10:50:47 am
That is typical
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Eccentric on December 06, 2014, 04:28:14 pm
I've seen 246s before..............but not a 246XP.  Dunno if there's any difference between a 246 and a 246XP.  Grabbed this pic from elsewhere.  Would love to have the saw............but the $ ain't there.....

(http://www.arboristsite.com/community/attachments/20141205_140537-jpg.384480/)
(http://www.arboristsite.com/community/attachments/20141205_140602-jpg.384478/)
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: SawTroll on December 06, 2014, 06:04:25 pm
I haven't heard of the 246xp before either - I assume the xp designation must have been added very late in the Production run? It would be very interesting to see how the cylinder of that saw is.... ;D

We learn as we live!   ;D
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 06, 2014, 06:31:43 pm
This one looks like it says husqvarna 246xpg

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/sanyasai/imgs/3/c/3c463f61.jpg)

Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Eccentric on December 06, 2014, 07:48:52 pm
That 246XPG must be a rare bird, at least in the US.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 06, 2014, 08:08:45 pm
Time for football and brew. So will get back later.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Eccentric on December 06, 2014, 10:01:19 pm
The seller of the 246XP that I mentioned earlier now sez that the MN/SN tag has "242XP" on it.  Strange.  Wonder where that 246XP starter cover decal came from....
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun on December 07, 2014, 10:46:15 am
husqvarna 246xp video   grrrrrrrrrr never turned saw to see recoil


http://youtu.be/xyFf3u0L2Og
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun on December 07, 2014, 10:50:54 am
husqvarna 42 246 IPL  http://cdn.husqvarna.com/ddoc/HUSI/HUSI2001_AAaa/HUSI2001_AAaa__1062268-66.pdf
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun on December 07, 2014, 10:56:12 am
Unicorn?  husky 246xp Makes me wonder IF someone isnt making DECALS?  Placement on the AF cover seems off. Who knows oh well. Had fun searching and drinking coffee.

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/sanyasai/imgs/a/3/a3329f6e.jpg)
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun on December 07, 2014, 10:59:14 am
246 XPG again

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/sanyasai/imgs/8/7/87c79b1e.jpg)



Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun on December 07, 2014, 11:01:10 am
Does this one say 246 xp?

(http://auctions.wing.c.yimg.jp/sim?furl=auctions.c.yimg.jp/img245.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/1/3/4/6/momochan_34_0213-org-1417155893643886&dc=1&sr.fs=20000)

Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: SawTroll on December 07, 2014, 11:09:45 am
Does this one say 246 xp?

(http://auctions.wing.c.yimg.jp/sim?furl=auctions.c.yimg.jp/img245.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/1/3/4/6/momochan_34_0213-org-1417155893643886&dc=1&sr.fs=20000)



It looks like it does, but the picture isn't good enough to say for sure.....
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Eccentric on December 07, 2014, 02:16:28 pm
Good job detective! 8)

Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 02, 2015, 06:47:59 pm
Jacks 242

Husqvarna 242 PHO weight dry.

(http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac273/jwalken/saws%2009/chansaw%20photos/DSC_0015-1.jpg) (http://s907.photobucket.com/user/jwalken/media/saws%2009/chansaw%20photos/DSC_0015-1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Spike60 on January 11, 2015, 10:57:58 am
There is a heap of confusion about many saws of this era, and it's all due to the fact that Husky was very sloppy with the use of SE and XP designations. There was little consistancy in the use of these terms on starter covers, top covers, ID plates and even the owners maunals. So, it's easy to see an incomplete picture and draw an incorrect conclusion.

On the 242's, there never was a 242 that wasn't an XP. However, the early 242's did not have XP on the ID plate, while later ones did. If you have a 242 with the small starter decal, it probably won't say XP on the ID tag. I have 2 newer 242's from 94 and 97 and they do have XP on the ID tag. One from 1987 does not.

I also never heard of a 246XP, and whether that decal is a combination of a 246 and 242XP decals is unknown. That being said, the 372XPW was at one time going to be released as  the 375XP. They never went to market that way but...........I have some 375XP decals, one of which is on a 51.4mm saw that I built for myself. Now if I went and posted pics of that thing without an explanation it would get everybody all cranked up about a saw that never was. Hmmmmm, remember this post next April 1st.  :D

The SE thing is funny also. (or maybe frustrating) Well after Husky switched to XP, they continued to put SE on the ID tags of 266's. I have two 266's from 1987 and both still have SE on the ID tag. In fact, even early 268XP's still had SE on the tag, while later ones had neither SE or XP. My guess is that this may be due to the fact that there were both XP and open port versions of the saws being made. I have 268XP's from 89 and 90 that have neither SE or XP on them. Adding to this confusion, and likely for the same reason, the 268 decal on the top cover did not say XP on it like the 272 decal did. The 268 had a separate XP decal on the rear of the top cover above the thumb latch. XP did appear on the ID tag when the 272XP was introduced. 

This story is much the same on the 254's also. I have 254's from 93 and 96 and the ID tags just say "254". I have a 154 from 1984 that has SE on the ID tag.

So, add in missing decals, and parts that may have been replaced over the years and it's kind of hard to make sense of it all with limited information. It's not uncommon for a guy to get a 242 or 254 with the decals worn off and suspect that he has a "non XP" saw, but there were no such versions of those models. 268's of course are a little trickier to figure out, and even the open port cylinders have that tell tail bulge that looks similar to a closed port cylinder from the outside.

There are also evolutionary changes that took place during the model runs that could raise some questions or suggest that there might be both XP and non XP versions of a saw like the 242 or 254, but don't be falsely mislead by that stuff. Stuff like case changes when air injection was introduced and the addition of a deco valve are two examples. And there are always updates and supercetions of parts during a model run.

Solving the puzzles is part of the fun, isbn't it!  :)
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 11, 2015, 11:00:59 am
Great info. Thanks for sharing that and taking the time to lay it all out for us here.  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: SawTroll on January 11, 2015, 11:54:25 am
Adding a little to what Spike said above; Early 254s often (if not always?) said SE on the number plate, but neither SE nor XP anywhere else on the saws.

I can't quite agree that there were no non-xp 242 and 254s though, when it didn't say xp either on the saws or in the marketing. It doesn't really matter though, as I don't think any updates of the saws were directly connected to the designation change - it was just natural product developments connected to production time.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: mweba on April 14, 2018, 07:12:35 pm
Cylinder timing numbers on a 242 "Professional" if someone with a "XP" or similar would like to verify similarities.  I'm curious if there was variance.

110
124
63
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 15, 2018, 07:04:22 am
Cylinder timing numbers on a 242 "Professional" if someone with a "XP" or similar would like to verify similarities.  I'm curious if there was variance.

110
124
63


I know who to check with.  Know he collects them.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 15, 2018, 09:25:52 am
@mweba  Per Tor R  =  There is many different jugs to 242, we had the SE/SG from Mahle, I've seen them around 126-127 TR, but TR is ruffly 1.5 from one side to the other side.
Then we got the XP jugs, delivered from Mahle, Gilardoni and KS.
There was at least 2 different Mahles, most of the times I see TR around 126, but the TR timing is less different side to side compared againdt the SG/SE jug, the jug from around 94-95 has TR port timings where the port open faster against the IN.
On them Mahles, most of the times I read IN 62, TR 126-127 and EX 111.

The Gilardoni cylinder is labelled 241B.
The KS cylinder is more rare, but I've seen it three times, never checked the timing.
Except the KS piston who where used in Gilardoni & KS jug, Mahle had 3 different slugs, the one for SG/SE, it is easy to spot since the piston ports are very different from side to side, then we got the XP pidton who has bigger ports, and last, after 95 we got a stronger piston but heavier.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: leec on April 27, 2018, 08:59:10 pm
Will any of the 42cc engine block fit the older Poulan 2050 -2400 which were also 42cc motors?  Maybe produced in the same factory.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 242
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 28, 2018, 06:19:05 am
242 is a mag cased pro saw. Not like the little poulan clamshells leec