Chainsaw Repair

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Title: Stihl ms280
Post by: man of stihl on February 24, 2015, 05:51:18 am
I picked up a non running, low compression Stihl ms280. I'll rebuild it and take pics as I go. As I understand this was the first model with the inteli carb.
Anyone have a IPL for this saw?

Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: man of stihl on February 24, 2015, 06:00:39 am
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g457/rjcfritz/EEFCA852-163B-4105-91F3-1BA62B60E122_zpsycyfcq0a.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/rjcfritz/media/EEFCA852-163B-4105-91F3-1BA62B60E122_zpsycyfcq0a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: man of stihl on February 24, 2015, 06:01:18 am
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g457/rjcfritz/9342E94A-C7E9-4E48-B36F-4560E30AA046_zpskw3ilx9r.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/rjcfritz/media/9342E94A-C7E9-4E48-B36F-4560E30AA046_zpskw3ilx9r.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: 660magnum on February 24, 2015, 06:46:11 am
Did you look in Yahoo?
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: jmester on February 24, 2015, 06:54:44 am
Pm sent as well.
660 hope you are feeling better
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: 660magnum on February 24, 2015, 11:17:27 am
I seem to be over the fever part but still have a little congestion lingering at times.
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: jmester on February 24, 2015, 11:45:58 am
Sounds like the worst is behind you then.
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: 660magnum on February 24, 2015, 01:04:25 pm
I sure hope so. Last year I was sick with bronchitis for 2 months. This year I used some of the meds from last year.
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: man of stihl on February 24, 2015, 06:41:19 pm
Did you look in Yahoo?
Yahoo?
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: 660magnum on February 24, 2015, 07:05:07 pm
Your Yahoo mail Inbox or newmail . . . is where the Service Manual and IPL for the 280 are.
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: man of stihl on February 24, 2015, 07:44:48 pm
Jim. Can you resend? That was my wife's email. I changed it to mine. Thanks.


Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: 660magnum on February 24, 2015, 08:30:37 pm
Look now?
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: man of stihl on February 25, 2015, 05:36:50 am
Thank you
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: JohnG28 on February 26, 2015, 10:02:15 pm
Did those saws come with IEM or something to that effect? For some reason I seem to remember it being advertised with some sort of electronic engine management, not just the intellicarb. Is that what you mean by first saw with this or just the intellicarb? Thanks.
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: man of stihl on February 27, 2015, 05:06:25 am
Did those saws come with IEM or something to that effect? For some reason I seem to remember it being advertised with some sort of electronic engine management, not just the intellicarb. Is that what you mean by first saw with this or just the intellicarb? Thanks.
I'm not sure about the IEM. I'm talking about the intellicarb.
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: man of stihl on March 07, 2015, 07:15:11 am
12lbs 2oz empty.
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 07, 2015, 12:36:14 pm
 I remember it but had to look it up to refresh my slow brain.

 Intelligent Engine Management

The new STIHL MS 280 is the world's first chainsaw with intelligent engine management ...

It's remarkably clever: STIHL presents the world's first chainsaw models with intelligent engine management . An innovative regulating system controls the full-load mix and top speed of the machines electronically. That way, the chainsaw always delivers optimum engine power as well as offering even greater convenience and environmental friendliness. STIHL sets new standards with this pioneering chainsaw design concept. STIHL chainsaws with intelligent engine management are indicated by the letter "I" in the model name.
Clear advantages

    Optimum engine performance at all times: An innovative regulating system automatically controls the full-load mix and top speed of the machine.
    Good lugging power: The machines always reach a constant maximum speed and are characterised by their outstandingly good acceleration.
    The correct carburetor setting, automatically: No need for manual adjustments in changing temperatures or when working under different conditions, such as at high altitude or with a dirty air filter.
    Efficient and environmentally friendly: Because the fuel-air mix always remains within the optimum range, the engine uses less fuel and produces lower exhaust emissions.

This is how it works

The regulating cycle starts if the chainsaw is operated for 5 seconds under constant full throttle. The solenoid valve closes for a fraction of a second. The resulting speed change is electronically measured and analysed. According to the result the fuel-air mix is readjusted to keep it always within the optimum range. In full-throttle mode the mix ratio is automatically regulated every 5 seconds.
Solenoid valve

Solenoid valve in the carburetor
The digitally controlled solenoid valve opens and closes 30 times per second. That way, the fuel supply is precision-controlled.
Microprocessor

Microprocessor in the ignition module
The microprocessor monitors the engine speed and controls the solenoid valve.
Flywheel
Flywheel

A second pair of poles on the flywheel provides the necessary power supply for the microprocessor and the solenoid valve.

Constant top speed
Intelligent engine management is active even during uncontrolled rich come-down at full throttle. If the engine speed exceeds the upper limit of 14,000 rpm the mix is enriched to bring the speed back down to 14,000 rpm. This ensures a constant maximum speed.

    http://www.stihl.co.uk/intelligent-engine-management.aspx
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: JohnG28 on March 13, 2015, 09:34:25 am
Thanks Kevin,  glad my memory isn't failing me completely yet!  :D
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: man of stihl on March 14, 2015, 07:29:39 pm
I see why the top end is smoked.
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: man of stihl on March 14, 2015, 07:30:17 pm
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Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: man of stihl on June 28, 2015, 09:20:52 am
(http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/g457/rjcfritz/6B6B36D9-D863-4230-9025-59ACE7E79387_zps93rms2bf.jpg) (http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/rjcfritz/media/6B6B36D9-D863-4230-9025-59ACE7E79387_zps93rms2bf.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: man of stihl on June 28, 2015, 09:23:06 am
280 is back together and running good. This is not the intelli carb version. It has an adjustable carb.
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 28, 2015, 09:23:53 am
stihl 270 280 IPL.  http://thebakeliteradio.com/sawspares.com/MS270%20280%20IPL.pdf   page 4

Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: man of stihl on June 28, 2015, 09:27:46 am
stihl 270 280 IPL.  http://thebakeliteradio.com/sawspares.com/MS270%20280%20IPL.pdf   page 4


Nice thanks!
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 28, 2015, 09:27:58 am
So was it a fun one to work on Ron?
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 28, 2015, 09:29:44 am
My last poulan had a intake boot like that. 4 different areas ripped.
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: man of stihl on June 28, 2015, 09:30:48 am
Not too bad honestly.
Going too sell it this fall when ppl start cutting again.
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: man of stihl on June 28, 2015, 09:32:17 am
I have no interest in clammys  ;D
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: man of stihl on June 28, 2015, 09:35:11 am
it just makes you wonder if the bar got pinched and the mounts got stretched to the extreme. End result torn boot.
Title: Re: Stihl ms280
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 28, 2015, 09:46:20 am
it just makes you wonder if the bar got pinched and the mounts got stretched to the extreme. End result torn boot.

I would guess yes on some.  That is the thing about the poulan and stihl I dislike on how their intake boots go through rear handles.
Do like the newer huskys we are used to on that design better.