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Title: Poulan pro 5020 PR5020 Poulan 5020 4818
Post by: Cut4fun on September 20, 2011, 08:29:49 pm
Anyone ran one yet? I looked at one at Lowe's 50cc and I think it had full 3/8 chain with 20" for $199. Clamshell design. 

http://www.amazon.com/Poulan-PP5020AV-20-Inch-Powered-Carrying/dp/B0052EL9YU

Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: rms61moparman on December 25, 2011, 06:33:42 pm
I've not had the chance to try one out yet but am sure looking forward to it.
It's been a long time since a saw with the Poulan name on it has garnered as many positive reviews as what I've seen on this one.
Maybe this could be the start of something good for Poulan again.


Mike
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun on December 25, 2011, 07:07:44 pm
My boss bought one after I told him about them. He ask me if he was going to buy a new saw that had a 20" bar on it for $200 what would I get. He bought the black and grey craftsman version. He has used it twice and loves it for around his place. Came with 3/8 oregon vanguard chain.

 I checked the IPL on 5020 and it is a clamshell design like the husky 450 455 and stihl 250 290 and poulan site dont have it for some reason listed, but I found some specs that showed close to what it felt like in my hands with bar and 20" chain on it. 15.15lbs as used it says.


Shame part was I had a 330 or 3450 for him (boss) but he couldnt get it from me because some state BS between management and union employees. He is just that straight of a shooter and is close to retirement like me. So I dont blame him.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Modifiedmark on February 02, 2012, 10:54:19 pm
Not bad for stock 50cc homeowners saw.

Fairly sturdy as well, and I will try to get some more time on it in real firewood cutting soon.

Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: rms61moparman on February 16, 2012, 08:16:30 pm
Hey Mark have you put any real time on this saw yet.....or did the guy at your work want it worse than you did???


Mike
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Modifiedmark on February 19, 2012, 11:19:56 am
Looks like the guy at work is wanting it, so off it will go. Might pickup another sometime. I found that Menards has them at $199 for there regular price. You cant go wrong with this saw for that kind of money..
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 19, 2012, 11:43:22 am
My boss at work bought the black and grey version and loves it. He is just a occasional I need to cut a tree up that fell on my property type.
I had talked with him about saws and even had one for him but he wasnt allowed to get anything from me do to state rules  ??? (it is true I checked into it). 
Now get this this guy makes just shy of 6 figures on straight pay and he about chit when I told him the cost of husqvarna, stihl, dolmars in the pro grade and cc size. So then I mentioned the 5020 and that is what he bought new.

 I just wonder why they didnt go with .325 chain though. I love 3/8 but  ::). 
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Modifiedmark on February 19, 2012, 10:05:03 pm
I really have no idea why the 3/8's either. Its not a bad thing though as even though its a saftey chain the 72V chain isnt that bad. Much better IMHO then the 33 series that would have probably come with it if it was .325.

Enlarging the hole under the deflector and running it with a 16" bar with 72LPX made a pretty decent runner out of it but stock with the 20" will get the job done without any trouble.

The thing that amazed me was the carb was set pretty much spot on, right out of the box.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 06, 2012, 03:16:03 pm
See they are finally on their site.  PP5020AV  Poulan Pro 5020

http://www.poulanpro.com/products/chain-saws/pp5020av/
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 06, 2012, 03:18:56 pm
PP 5020 IPL   http://www.poulanpro.com/ddoc/PPOI/PPOI2011_AAaa/PPOI2011_AAaa_PP5020AV_577387301.pdf

5020 owners manual   http://www.poulanpro.com/ddoc/PPOO/PPOO2012_NAen/PPOO2012_NAen_PP5020AV_115395626R5.pdf
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Chris J. on September 11, 2012, 08:09:32 am
Cut4Fun2,  thanks for the links!

I have the Craftsman version, model 358.35098;  from what I can tell it's the very same as the Poulan Pro PP5020AV,  except for the colors.   A small building supply warehouse near me had a bunch of returned Craftsman two-cycle equipment,  and I managed to get the only 358.35098 that they had.   I have no complaints for a hair under $60.00.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 11, 2012, 09:51:34 am
There's a 5020 around here for $75 but I cant get in contact with the seller. I just want to buy to test ride it.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 21, 2012, 04:38:01 pm

I have the Craftsman version, model 358.35098;  from what I can tell it's the very same as the Poulan Pro PP5020AV,  except for the colors.   A small building supply warehouse near me had a bunch of returned Craftsman two-cycle equipment,  and I managed to get the only 358.35098 that they had.   I have no complaints for a hair under $60.00.

Are they still this price?

 Best I can find on  the craftsman 35098 50cc 20" is $120 shipped used return.


Just found a PP5020AV new shipped to the house for $170     

Specs manuals etc can be found below.

http://www.poulanpro.com/products/chain-saws/pp5020av/#tab-features
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Chris J. on December 22, 2012, 02:12:08 pm

I have the Craftsman version, model 358.35098;  from what I can tell it's the very same as the Poulan Pro PP5020AV,  except for the colors.   A small building supply warehouse near me had a bunch of returned Craftsman two-cycle equipment,  and I managed to get the only 358.35098 that they had.   I have no complaints for a hair under $60.00.

Are they still this price?

 Best I can find on  the craftsman 35098 50cc 20" is $120 shipped used return.


Just found a PP5020AV new shipped to the house for $170     

Specs manuals etc can be found below.

http://www.poulanpro.com/products/chain-saws/pp5020av/#tab-features


I was at the warehouse a several weeks back,  & they had sold all of the Craftsman equip.  When they had all of the Craftsman equip,  I only found one 358.35098 (5020).  I frequently see the Craftsman versions listed on eBay,  but the bidding varies,  one might bring $80.00 and another might bring $120.00.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: oldpart on December 22, 2012, 04:03:25 pm
I ordered some parts for this saw last week. Cheapest parts I've bought in a while. Easy Pull Start pulley kit(pulley, hub, EPS spring) was $1.41 my cost and a sprocket was around $3.00! Might ought to stock up. I need to ask someone how many they've built.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 27, 2013, 07:29:02 am
I couldnt stand it no more.    Just bought a  PP5020AV so I could run and check one out for myself.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 27, 2013, 10:43:36 am
I couldnt stand it no more.    Just bought a  PP5020AV so I could run and check one out for myself.

Ha the curiosity finally got to you.   
Well I will be awaiting for what you think for a 50cc saw.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Barneyrb on February 27, 2013, 01:33:13 pm
I ordered some parts for this saw last week. Cheapest parts I've bought in a while. Easy Pull Start pulley kit(pulley, hub, EPS spring) was $1.41 my cost and a sprocket was around $3.00! Might ought to stock up. I need to ask someone how many they've built.

New OEM piston is ~$8....OOPS, gone up a little per Ordertree now is $9.18
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 27, 2013, 02:24:33 pm
I couldnt stand it no more.    Just bought a  PP5020AV so I could run and check one out for myself.

Ha the curiosity finally got to you.   
Well I will be awaiting for what you think for a 50cc saw.

All I have read is that Mark said 5020 had less torque in the cut then the 330 and 330 was stronger. That is expected IMO considering the 5020 50cc and 330 54cc. 
 Just like the PP325 partner 5500 53cc is noticeably stronger and more torque in the cut then the partner 5000 49cc.
 or 45cc 346 compared to 50cc 346 same thing noticed.

I have a good running grey craftsman 49cc aka poulan 3000 with bare bore to compare to. 

1st thing I plan on doing is never installing the 20".  Going to put a 16" on from the get go in 3/8. Then maybe 325 later too since that is what the 3000 has on it. Will test with same set ups on both in 3/8 and 325.

What bar mount is on the 5020?  K041 or K095  ?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 27, 2013, 04:32:04 pm
K095 mount.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on February 27, 2013, 05:24:28 pm
Does the 5020 have a spur or rim sprocket?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 27, 2013, 05:51:46 pm
I think it is a 3/8ths spur.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 27, 2013, 06:15:12 pm
Ordered this morning around 6:30am from Amazon.

Just got a email that saw has been shipped UPS from Indy IN and estimated to be delivered 28th.  :o
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 27, 2013, 06:16:46 pm
I think it is a 3/8ths spur.

That puts a glitch in me trying .325. 

Will have to check to see what other options I have for drums down the road I guess.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: dynodave on February 27, 2013, 09:37:55 pm
I ordered some parts for this saw last week. Cheapest parts I've bought in a while. Easy Pull Start pulley kit(pulley, hub, EPS spring) was $1.41 my cost and a sprocket was around $3.00! Might ought to stock up. I need to ask someone how many they've built.

New OEM piston is ~$8....OOPS, gone up a little per Ordertree now is $9.18


5020 piston  576752601 =  $7.88 @   http://tewarehouse.com
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 28, 2013, 04:23:31 pm
Now that was quick. Ordered yesterday at 630am, shipped same day 3ish. Delivered today UPS 415pm.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/pp502av001_zpsfaace036.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: brokenbudget on February 28, 2013, 04:36:02 pm
what was the cost for the shipping on that? iffins yuh don't mind me asking? :)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 28, 2013, 04:39:26 pm
what was the cost for the shipping on that? iffins yuh don't mind me asking? :)

Indy is only 3-4 hrs from me.

I got the shipping for FREE. But is was listed as $23 standard 5-8 days shipping ground.  (http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv126/Marston72/Dancing%20Smileys/7cb7bf46.gif)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: brokenbudget on February 28, 2013, 04:41:30 pm
hmmmm, not bad. even at $23 bucks it would still be a great deal. :)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 28, 2013, 05:48:42 pm
K095 mount.

It is K095 mount. 

Oregon bar and 70dl OEM.


20" bar that came with is is laying on bench. I put my 16" on it.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/pp502av002_zps061f2397.jpg)

Sorry about that.  I thought they came with a K041.   
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: man of stihl on February 28, 2013, 05:53:25 pm
I see you must have used it. Hows it run?? unless it came with sawdust on it.. :)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 28, 2013, 05:59:27 pm
OUT OF THE BOX NEW a homeowner sawer would get disgusted pretty quick IMO.  The saw carb was off the mark on L and I.

I checked factory settings and then put them back to see. L was 1.5 and H was 2 - 2.5 out (sorry cant remember H off hand).

It would start and not idle and shut off. Start and bog giving throttle. 

I kept adjusting the carb till I ended up with about 3 out on L and left 2-2.5 on H at about 12.8K. Turned the I idle up too.  Reminds me of the redmax carb and settings (which through me for a loop when I 1st got it), not like the 1 to 1.5 turns out we get used to.

Got to make some test cuts and I was   ;D   ear to ear.

Be warned make sure you have the splined carb tool $8-$14 and know how to tune a saw if buying NIB.

K095 mount

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/pp502av002_zps061f2397.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/pp502av006_zpscd4f76b1.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/pp502av005_zps85506a32.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/pp502av003_zpsd595ce90.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/pp502av004_zps87e5c56e.jpg)

Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 28, 2013, 06:00:37 pm
I see you must have used it. Hows it run?? unless it came with sawdust on it.. :)

Just left a new post. 

Well worth the $200 usual price tag IMO. 
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 28, 2013, 06:52:24 pm
K095 mount.

fixed it.    ;D
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 28, 2013, 07:06:07 pm
K095 mount.

Sorry about that.  I thought they came with a K041.   

fixed it.    ;D

No biggie for me being I had both on hand.

 Now if someone was buying a bar it might have mattered.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 28, 2013, 07:45:35 pm
You know I thought for sure the K041 oiled through the adjuster holes and the K095 small husky mount oiled through a oil hole.   I do not see a oil hole in the bar laying flat in the picture. 

Then I also thought the K041 used 70 DL and the Husky K095 used 72 DL.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun on February 28, 2013, 07:48:31 pm
You know I thought for sure the K041 oiled through the adjuster holes and the K095 small husky mount oiled through a oil hole.   I do not see a oil hole in the bar laying flat in the picture. 

Then I also thought the K041 used 70 DL and the Husky K095 used 72 DL.

Look closer at the O in the bar laying down.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun on February 28, 2013, 07:54:35 pm
Tried to draw a line to oiler hole for you. Couldnt figure out how to change color though. Black line.  ???

K095 70DL bar with oregon vanguard 3/8 70dl chain.

Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 28, 2013, 07:57:13 pm
I wonder if they started out using a K041 bar mount and then later switched to a K095.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 28, 2013, 08:06:33 pm
I thought I had read somewhere they used a K041 mount and I went back to the one Mark had done his reviews on and he is pretty convinced the one he got came with a K041 mount that oiled through the adjuster not a oil hole.     So I am just wondering if they changed it over to what you have now.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun on February 28, 2013, 08:08:08 pm
I thought I had read somewhere they used a K041 mount and I went back to the one Mark had done his reviews on and he is pretty convinced the one he got came with a K041 mount that oiled through the adjuster not a oil hole. 

No clue what his was. But I know for sure what mine is K095
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun on February 28, 2013, 08:12:32 pm
Another owner of one posted from July 2012 K095 mount he said.

 

Iíve ordered a new bar and chain, the Oregon 200RNDK095 bar and the 72LPX072G chain. Itís not any longer, but has a replaceable sprocket and the chain is two links longer.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun on February 28, 2013, 08:18:35 pm
Roger this is Mark's post.

Quote from: Modifiedmark
I agree but if you seen, getting a .325 drive spocket for one seems to be the big problem. Nice it has the K095 bar mount   and the saw run really well with a 16" 3/8s setup so its not really that big a deal.

70DL on a 20" has been standard on a Poulan forever.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 28, 2013, 08:23:50 pm
Roger this is Mark's post.

Quote from: Modifiedmark
I agree but if you seen, getting a .325 drive spocket for one seems to be the big problem. Nice it has the K095 bar mount   and the saw run really well with a 16" 3/8s setup so its not really that big a deal.

70DL on a 20" has been standard on a Poulan forever.


I did some more searching and found that he had intially made a mistake and then later corrected it.   I missed the correction.    So K095 it is and will ever be.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun on February 28, 2013, 08:25:16 pm
Quote from: Modifiedmark
Well after some investigation, I found that I am the one with egg on my face. I was wrong on the bar mount, this saw does indeed use a K095 mount bar. Here is a picture that I took when I first broke this thing down to inspect it. I am so used to the K041 mounts on these mid sized Poulans I never noticed that the bar does indeed have the K095 style oiler hole in it. I can't belive that I missed that, but this is not a bad thing.

It just so happens I had a 16" 3/8's Power Match in K095 and put it on with a new 60DL Oregon 72LGX chain to try out.


Another on correction he made.

Try and attach Mark's pic another way. Roger still red X?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 28, 2013, 08:31:21 pm
Does Mark's pic show up in his post above?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on February 28, 2013, 09:13:13 pm
yes there is a quote and picture of a bar & chain
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 28, 2013, 09:33:26 pm
                  if your talking about the quote then all I see is a red X.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 01, 2013, 06:37:40 am
                  if your talking about the quote then all I see is a red X.

How about now?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: brokenbudget on March 01, 2013, 07:23:59 am
pic has worked for me the whole time :) so there!
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on March 01, 2013, 09:28:56 am
It still shows up but the picture is a click-on ICON now.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 01, 2013, 10:04:25 am
Yep got it now.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 01, 2013, 04:35:54 pm
Anyone found a 325 clutch drum that fits yet?   I dont care if it is spur or replaceable sprocket.

I have some ideas after some research.  Just need to get some warm weather so I feel like doing the swaps to see.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun on March 03, 2013, 02:01:06 pm
This is the 5016. The bar is the black plain 16" 3/8 050 bars in K041 mount you can buy from a member here oldpart.

I converted this K041 mount long ago to be able to run it on my huskys too with K095 mount, so it works on the 5016 too.  ;)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/tank5016004_zpsf4ac1d1d.jpg)
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Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Modifiedmark on March 03, 2013, 09:46:39 pm
Kevin, if you really want to try a .325 setup, you could make a brass bushing to fit a PP295 clutch drum to the 5020. That is if I remember right! LOL

Seemed it was the same size drum, just that the crank dia was smaller on the 5020.

Just to get techical, the bar that comes on the 5020 would actually be considered a Z095 mount because it carries a non standard drive link count.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: brokenbudget on March 03, 2013, 10:19:18 pm
whats the diameter of the crank?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 04, 2013, 07:08:47 am
Kevin, if you really want to try a .325 setup, you could make a brass bushing to fit a PP295 clutch drum to the 5020. That is if I remember right! LOL

Seemed it was the same size drum, just that the crank dia was smaller on the 5020.

Just to get techical, the bar that comes on the 5020 would actually be considered a Z095 mount because it carries a non standard drive link count.

Me myself would leave it 3/8 and 16".  I am going to run the 5016, grey 3000, 545, 550, 346 all in the same would with same chain soon.  Very impressed with the poulan pulling 3/8 16" on 1st  tank. Hard to beat it for under $200 saw new.

Also noticed yesterday. The 545 and 5016 are suppose to be about 1lb different in PHO weight. But when filled up with b+c on them it was hard to tell picking up for bucking cuts only. Like for firewood use purposes.  Limbing I'm sure you could tell more.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 04, 2013, 02:16:25 pm
whats the diameter of the crank?

I havent gotten that far into checking yet.  New cranks are $25
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Modifiedmark on March 04, 2013, 08:17:47 pm
Kevin, if you really want to try a .325 setup, you could make a brass bushing to fit a PP295 clutch drum to the 5020. That is if I remember right! LOL

Seemed it was the same size drum, just that the crank dia was smaller on the 5020.

Just to get techical, the bar that comes on the 5020 would actually be considered a Z095 mount because it carries a non standard drive link count.

Me myself would leave it 3/8 and 16".  .

Really, then why did you ask about how to convert it to .325????
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 04, 2013, 08:33:49 pm
Kevin, if you really want to try a .325 setup, you could make a brass bushing to fit a PP295 clutch drum to the 5020. That is if I remember right! LOL

Seemed it was the same size drum, just that the crank dia was smaller on the 5020.

Just to get techical, the bar that comes on the 5020 would actually be considered a Z095 mount because it carries a non standard drive link count.

Me myself would leave it 3/8 and 16".  .

Really, then why did you ask about how to convert it to .325????


I said ME I would leave it 3/8  IF it were me going to run it and own it.   ;D

To test with I am going to try 325 too so IF OTHERS need info.  ::)     ::) ::)  It's really not that hard to comprehend is it?

Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 04, 2013, 09:04:02 pm
I'm going to try and explain this as clear and slowwww as I can so anyone with  any amount of  ;D in their system can understand this, I hope.

I would like to test a 5020 with 325 and 3/8. Then I will be able to show future buyers local a set up in 325 7 and 3/8 7 to test with. Because they will probably want 20" bars being how people are.

I had 2 330 set up one time with 325 7 20" and another with 3/8 7 20". The firewood cutter wanted set up with 325 7 because of the extra torque 325 7 rim gave and forgiveness in the cuts when pushing.

Another wanting limbing saw and light weight bucking homeowner saw. 30cc to 42cc range. I set about 6-7 saws up with 3/8LP and .325 so they could run each to see what they liked.

Hopefully this gets the WHY across. I want to be able to set a 5020 up in 325 and 3/8.

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Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Modifiedmark on March 06, 2013, 03:27:48 pm

Dont go slow for me, just come on out and say it up front otherwise someone might not understand what your wanting.

First you say you want to try .325 pitch on it, then you say that you would leave it 3/8's! WTF.

Excuse me for understanding what you said and not what you were meaning to say.

Now go and show us how to convert a 5020 to .325 pitch. I dare ya. LOL
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on March 06, 2013, 04:18:13 pm
MARK! . . .

Cut4fun is out in the shop and he wants to know - did you want him to run the 5020 with .325 X 7 or 8? He doesn't have his lap top with him and he wanted me to ask you? He was talking to me on the speaker phone.

He says he's gonna run the 7 pin rim first if he doesn't hear from you?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 06, 2013, 04:39:31 pm
Now go and show us how to convert a 5020 to .325 pitch. I dare ya. LOL


Bet and DONE  ;D :D ;)  Just tested with 325 7 on 5020 = 5018 today  8). Neat thing is I found  a drum that uses rims.  :D

Dont you know to never challenge a Redneck. Took all of 5 mins and 3rd swap.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 06, 2013, 04:52:50 pm
whats the diameter of the crank?

I havent gotten that far into checking yet.  New cranks are $25

10mm clutch side.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 06, 2013, 05:39:41 pm
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/325502038545001_zps10d2ea1b.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/325502038545002_zpscc590b37.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 06, 2013, 09:01:31 pm
BB I think a poulan 3000 etc clutch drum would work IF we could find a bearing with 10mm I.D. and fit the O.D. 3000 etc clutch drum. 

Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun on March 07, 2013, 06:57:31 am
The guy getting me the 295 4620 clutch drum and bearing measurements dont worry about it. Unless you still want to for informational purposes. I found where Mark tried one and he said it dont work.

Guess we just need to look out of the box sometimes  ;). 3rd saw I grabbed  was a match and worked.  ;D :D
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 07, 2013, 01:26:38 pm
Now go and show us how to convert a 5020 to .325 pitch. I dare ya. LOL

Well I have had enough fun with this challenge. LOL

Sometimes you need to think out of the box and why a team concept trouble shooting works. Just because 1 single person cant find something dont mean its not out there. Throw a few brains together and ask for help and you could be amazed what a team can come up with.

For my drum in 325 Go Echo
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: brokenbudget on March 07, 2013, 01:29:17 pm
Now go and show us how to convert a 5020 to .325 pitch. I dare ya. LOL

Well I have had enough fun with this challenge. LOL

Sometimes you need to think out of the box and why a team concept trouble shooting works. Just because 1 single person cant find something dont mean its not out there. Throw a few brains together and ask for help and you could be amazed what a team can come up with.

For my drum in 325 Go Echo

yes but what echo? :) and where are the times for the cuts! >:( don't make us havta come looking fer yuh ;D
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 07, 2013, 01:42:07 pm
Didnt you read your PM BB.

I used a echo 3900 drum. I am sure there are plenty of echos using that drum set up out there as the part number has been supersede.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/3900partssaw002.jpg)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: brokenbudget on March 07, 2013, 02:42:08 pm
Didnt you read your PM BB.

I used a echo 3900 drum. I am sure there are plenty of echos using that drum set up out there as the part number has been supersede.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/66Impala/3900partssaw002.jpg)

didn't see the pm before i replied :)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 07, 2013, 02:54:18 pm
Pretty cool, should be plenty of those around.   Who would have thought a echo.   Outside the box.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 07, 2013, 03:07:14 pm
The echo drum is not as deep. But still wide enough for the chain brake to catch it if needed and the whole clutch shoes are inside the drum.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 09, 2013, 09:12:56 am
Poulan sent me a email yesterday asking me how I liked the 5020 and if any feedback.  First time that has happened with any saw or equipment purchase from any maker.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 09, 2013, 09:24:27 am
Poulan 5020 with .325 and rim set up.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/3citestsaws008_zpsaa490b47.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/pp502av006_zpscd4f76b1.jpg)
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Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 09, 2013, 05:42:00 pm
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/pp5020av330060cc011_zpsff3f0ee2.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/pp5020av330060cc014_zps8fe9eba0.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/pp5020av330060cc005_zpsf1764def.jpg)
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Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 09, 2013, 06:47:47 pm
That thing has Husky stamped everywhere.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 09, 2013, 06:54:25 pm
That thing has Husky stamped everywhere.

I have only ran 1 husqvarna 450 at a stock saw race before. Sure reminds me of it in some ways. 

 Would like to have a husky 450 side by side to compare.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on March 10, 2013, 01:35:47 pm
You pull up the Husqvarna 2011 450 IPL and there is a lot of look alike around the carb with the air valve on top and also the starter pulley size but everything else is different.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 12, 2013, 08:11:33 pm
You pull up the Husqvarna 2011 450 IPL and there is a lot of look alike around the carb with the air valve on top and also the starter pulley size but everything else is different.

Ill have to spend more time on this search later.  To see what will interchange and the similarities or not.

Husqvarna 450 IPL  http://www.husqvarna.com/ddoc/husi/husi2011_aaaa/husi2011_aaaa_450_201107.pdf

PP5020AV IPL  http://www.oscar-wilson.com/MANUALS/POULAN/PP5020AV.PDF
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 05, 2014, 04:47:25 pm
Poulan 5020 PHO weight.

Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 05, 2014, 04:58:37 pm
Kevin can you add that picture to the Poulan thread for PHO weights.
Title: Husqvarna 450 PP5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 17, 2014, 04:33:29 pm
Was just talking today with new owner of the 5020. Telling him how it compared to the 450 I had in shop.  Like cousin saws with different cylinders is what I noticed.

My question is does the 450 and 5020 share the same crankshaft?  Reason I ask the 450 was set up with .325 and 5020 with 3/8 and only 325 set up I found to fit directly on the small 5020 crankshaft was from echo.

Wondering now if the husky 450 crank is same size and if so the 325 clutch drum set up may work on 5020?
Title: Re: Husqvarna 450 PP5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 17, 2014, 04:43:54 pm
Going to say no after finding both crankshafts.  5020 is stepped down again.

Title: Re: Husqvarna 450 PP5020
Post by: bloodontheice on March 17, 2014, 04:59:47 pm
Had a guy buy one of those PP5020 from TSC, and ran it for a month and hated it.
It came set up with a 3/8 20" bar, which is ridiculous, he returned it to TSC and bought a 2250 from me.
I thought the PP would be a 095 bar mount like, and could swap it all over but nope it's some goofy homelite mount.
That runs 70 drive links of 3/8 chain.

I was hoping there would be some over lap since he had a couple bars and chains that he bought brand new with
the 5020 and could swap them to the Jonsered. 
Title: Re: Husqvarna 450 PP5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 17, 2014, 05:14:48 pm
5020 is a K095 mount in 70dl OEM Cale. I think some called it Z095 for 70dl but it is a K095 mount actually.   I ran 60dl 16" K095 bar.

IMO need tuned out of the box.  I owned one and it fits the bill for under $200 50cc saw IMO.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/pp502av002_zps061f2397.jpg)
Title: Re: Husqvarna 450 PP5020
Post by: SawTroll on March 18, 2014, 08:37:47 am
5020 is a K095 mount in 70dl OEM Cale. I think some called it Z095 for 70dl but it is a K095 mount actually.  .....

I believe you are right, and that the "Z" (in place of "K") just means that the bar has a non-standard dl count.
Title: Re: Husqvarna 450 PP5020
Post by: Eccentric on March 19, 2014, 04:25:31 am
Right now I have a 5020 that belongs to the park that I volunteer in.  Damn thing has almost no time on it, but is acting like it has leaking crank seals. Wandering tune, goofy needle settings, bogging, and a LS tune that changes when the saw is tilted.

 I have no desire to expend the effort getting set up to pres/vac test that goofy stratto Poulan.  Will probably instead just throw new seals and an intake boot/block at it.  A fellow bought it as a $99 refurb on line and donated it to the park.  Now I have it 'cause it won't tune.  Yuck.  To me it's a big step backwards from the PP295/4620/2900/3050 saws for several reasons.  The scrench holder in the rear handle is kinda cool though.....
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 19, 2014, 06:15:20 pm
I like the 5020 over the 295 4620 series saws myself. Not weight wise though.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on March 19, 2014, 06:50:40 pm
Having been around Cut4fun's 5020, I think it is a lot more chainsaw than the 295/4620 series
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Eccentric on March 20, 2014, 02:25:00 pm
You guys can have 'em.  I don't use a 50cc saw much anyways.  I mostly use a 30-41cc or 61-72cc saw.  A PP295 (or a Husky 41 with a PP295 engine swap) 'feels' more like a 41cc saw to me than a 50cc class saw.  It's good that we don't like all the same saws.  Less competition that way.8)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 20, 2014, 02:33:54 pm
If I was going to run a saw the cc size of 295 or 4620. I am grabbing my echo 4500 first.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: brokenbudget on March 20, 2014, 04:30:55 pm
I'd grab the 2800 ;D
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 20, 2014, 05:16:03 pm
I would grab one of my 335's.    Small with a decent weight and plenty of umph with a 16" bar.

Right now all the saws I have in the 50cc range are all Dolmars which I like also.   if I go cut pine with the BIL I take saws in the 50cc to 55cc range.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Eccentric on March 20, 2014, 06:02:22 pm
I can't seem to keep a 50cc class saw here.  Every time I get one squared away and running right I sell/trade it off.  I'm assembling a couple Husky 36-41 saws with PP295 engines and will likely be keeping them as beater/bucket saws.  Usually when I go cutting I grab a S25-CVA, a Micro variant, or one of my 61-72cc saws (PP375, Poulan 4000, McCulloch PM700, Husky 272XP), depending on what the job is............with bigger saws coming along if needed. 

Had an 031AV.  Sold it.  Had a nice PP330.  Traded it for the 4000.  Had a nice 45mm Husky 350.  Sold it.  Had a Husky 257.  Traded it for 82cc Mac parts and a couple bars.  Had a 357XP.  Traded it for 123cc Mac stuff.  Had a very nice Poulan 3400.  Sold it.  Have had a couple nice Mac 10-10A's.  Donated one to the Stumpy raffle, and traded the other for a Homelite XL-850.  My Poulan 306A, XL-103, and Homelite XL-12/SXL saws just sit on the shelf most of the time.  Most of those are really 60cc class saws anyways...
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 20, 2014, 07:09:51 pm
Wow Aaron you went through some saws there.   :o
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Eccentric on March 20, 2014, 07:41:50 pm
And that's just one displacement range Roger.  My postal carriers don't like me very much.... 8)

.........and in that class I forgot the nice late chainbrake equipped Jonsereds 621 that I traded for a big McCulloch based Target concrete saw, the nice Stihl S-10 I sold, the Husky 50 I had for a short time, all the SXL/XL-12 saws that I've parted out, etc..


This has taken place over several years.  If I'd kept every saw that's come through here I'd have well over 100 saws.  Heck................I can't even remember all of the saws that I have right now (especially if you count parts saws)... ???
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 20, 2014, 07:54:44 pm
Well I received my 5020 today so I will get to see first hand what this saw is made of.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: fossil on March 20, 2014, 08:10:15 pm
Here's a hint. You won't be welding it.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 20, 2014, 08:15:42 pm
That is true Tim but I will be getting the burrs out.   Maybe removing a little aluminum.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on March 20, 2014, 08:17:29 pm
And what may I ask, is wrong with welding plastic?

I've had huge machinery pieces that were welded fabrications of UHMW white nylon plastic sheets. Where I worked they would also weld up broken polypropylene pieces. They had a propane torch and plastic welding rod.

You can weld up gas tank cracks with the cheaper string trimmer line
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 20, 2014, 08:32:09 pm
And what may I ask, is wrong with welding plastic?

I've had huge machinery pieces that were welded fabrications of UHMW white nylon plastic sheets. Where I worked they would also weld up broken polypropylene pieces. They had a propane torch and plastic welding rod.

You can weld up gas tank cracks with the cheaper string trimmer line

That sounds like it is out of my league.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun on March 20, 2014, 08:35:25 pm
I also wonder now if a 450 motor complete (removal transfers etc, different clutch and drum set ups)  would slip in the 5020 crankcase out of curiosity.

Just thinking down the road when the 2 get much much older and more turn up dead.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on March 20, 2014, 08:37:52 pm
You'll have to try a gas tank with some trimmer line some time? That'll be your league. Besides you'll nothing to loose in that situation.

While we are on tanks, trimmer line works great to jam in a screw hole to make the screws take hold sort of like using match sticks in a wood screw hole.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 20, 2014, 08:55:52 pm
You'll have to try a gas tank with some trimmer line some time? That'll be your league. Besides you'll nothing to loose in that situation.

While we are on tanks, trimmer line works great to jam in a screw hole to make the screws take hold sort of like using match sticks in a wood screw hole.

You always come up with good ideas.   Good tip.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: fossil on March 20, 2014, 09:59:44 pm
Just thinking down the road when the 2 get much older and turn up dead

I assume you are talking about Roger and me.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on March 20, 2014, 10:15:10 pm
Just thinking down the road when the 2 get much older and turn up dead

I assume you are talking about Roger and me.

Not unless were a couple of saws.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 03, 2014, 02:43:06 pm
Well I received my 5020 today so I will get to see first hand what this saw is made of.


Have you run it stock yet?  How much did you have to change the tune from being 32:1 and in midwest?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 03, 2014, 03:50:26 pm
Well I received my 5020 today so I will get to see first hand what this saw is made of.


Have you run it stock yet?  How much did you have to change the tune from being 32:1 and in midwest?

No I have not ran it yet, but you give me an idea.   Maybe a before and after video.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: maxmag on April 10, 2014, 09:23:33 pm
What's the verdict, is the 5020 a good one?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 10, 2014, 10:17:09 pm
What's the verdict, is the 5020 a good one?

I have not run the one I have yet so comparatively speaking I could not say.   I have looked it over and like what I see though.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: maxmag on April 13, 2014, 06:33:36 pm
keep us posted if you will. I have considered buying one.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 13, 2014, 07:12:13 pm
Will do.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: brokenbudget on September 20, 2014, 06:31:21 am
 :D :D
http://sawhawgz.com/showthread.php/3725-Poulan-Pro-on-Sale-at-NT/page2
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 20, 2014, 09:07:32 am
LOL added to the thread there.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: brokenbudget on September 20, 2014, 09:11:08 am
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 20, 2014, 03:38:39 pm
If I was going to run a saw the cc size of 295 or 4620. I am grabbing my echo 4500 first.
I'd grab the 2800 ;D

I got to grab a 2900 3.0 or 3900 now. Sold the 450V = 4500. I grab the 3900 most due  to the lighter weight. Even though not as strong in the cut of a 250.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on September 20, 2014, 04:13:50 pm
I'd have to grab the 16" 025/MS250 Stihl as they are the smallest saws I have.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 20, 2015, 06:51:25 pm
So I got the 5020 out the other day and ran it for awhile.  It is about what I would expect from a 50cc saw that is bone stock, not bad.    But I did receive another 5020 from work for free because it had grooves in the piston and cylinder from a circlip that came loose from the wrist pin and came up both sides of the transfers.




Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 20, 2015, 06:57:59 pm
I like the design of the saw over all.  It is put together in a modular design.   I also noticed that the transfers are closed off with what looks like removable pieces.   So I guess you can say it is a closed port transfer.   Unfortunately the tops of the transfers were damaged so I will not be able to use the cylinder.   I am going to look for another used piston and cylinder to repair it if I can.   I will take some more pics as I put it back together and I will make some modifications while I have it apart.   Then I can compare it to the stock one I received from Kevin.   
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on April 20, 2015, 07:00:27 pm
I was looking at your other 5020 a couple years ago and every part in it had a Husqvarna label molded into it.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 20, 2015, 07:22:09 pm
I was looking at your other 5020 a couple years ago and every part in it had a Husqvarna label molded into it.

I believe you are correct.   Even the cylinder had stamped Husqvarna on it.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun on April 20, 2015, 07:30:54 pm
New piston at ordertree was $6.35 when I was checking the other day. Bet cylinder cheap too.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 20, 2015, 07:51:24 pm
The cylinder is 32.95.   I will probably get those from order tree not a bad price.   
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Eccentric on April 20, 2015, 08:08:52 pm
I wish that the piston and cylinder for the PP295/4620 saws and the PP310/315 were that cheap.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 20, 2015, 09:00:41 pm
I wish that the piston and cylinder for the PP295/4620 saws and the PP310/315 were that cheap.

With all the machining done to the piston you would think it would have been more.   Go figure.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Eccentric on April 20, 2015, 09:07:31 pm
Yep.  Hard to fathom how they can sell a piston for just over $6 retail..............especially a piston for a stratto that has the extra stuff on the skirt...
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: aclarke on April 20, 2015, 09:54:37 pm
Interesting cylinder design
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Chris-PA on April 21, 2015, 08:22:43 pm
It's pretty much the standard Poulan cylinder design now - even the PP338PT pole saw I recently modified was the same concept.  It's distinct from the Husqvarna cylinders, except for the 240 which is a sort of cross over design.  I think it is a clever way to make a simple casting into a closed transfer.  The castings seem to be well made. 

I like that it has the rubber coated bearings, which means that decreasing the squish clearance should not be too hard. 
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 21, 2015, 10:13:54 pm
It's pretty much the standard Poulan cylinder design now - even the PP338PT pole saw I recently modified was the same concept.  It's distinct from the Husqvarna cylinders, except for the 240 which is a sort of cross over design.  I think it is a clever way to make a simple casting into a closed transfer.  The castings seem to be well made. 

I like that it has the rubber coated bearings, which means that decreasing the squish clearance should not be too hard. 

You are correct and I am going to see if the drum sander I made will fit this cylinder.   If it does I am going to tighten up the squish on a new cylinder.   I do have an old cylinder here to practice on.   

I have done this already on a PP 295 so I kind of know what to expect.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: aclarke on April 21, 2015, 10:33:30 pm
Cut the bearing bore on the cylinder then deck the mating surface?  Good idea
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 21, 2015, 10:51:01 pm
Cut the bearing bore on the cylinder then deck the mating surface?  Good idea

Exactly.   +1
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Eccentric on April 21, 2015, 10:51:13 pm
Roger I will likely attempt to employ you to reduce the squish on a PP295/4620 engine sometime in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 21, 2015, 11:00:14 pm
Roger I will likely attempt to employ you to reduce the squish on a PP295/4620 engine sometime in the not too distant future.

No problem.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Eccentric on April 21, 2015, 11:02:08 pm
Excellent. 8)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Chris-PA on April 22, 2015, 11:23:06 am
When I reduced the squish on a 42cc Poulan clamshell I used a lathe to turn the bottom on the cylinder, and a sanding drum on a Dremel to move the bearing pockets.  The rubber coated bearing can be used as a sizing tool, as the center line between the cylinder an cap leaves a clear line in the rubber.  Given that they are rubber coated bearings in an un-machined (as-cast) pocket, it is tolerant of minor errors and there will clearly be some inaccuracies in the casting.  Also, one could easily cut down the base with a file and careful measurements rather than a lathe.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on April 22, 2015, 11:38:13 am
So the Poulan 5020 lends itself to a poor man's hop up with basic hand tools and careful cut & fit technique. And as mentioned, the rubber coated seals/bearings makes this possible?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 22, 2015, 11:46:48 am
So the Poulan 5020 lends itself to a poor man's hop up with basic hand tools and careful cut & fit technique. And as mentioned, the rubber coated seals/bearings makes this possible?

Yes.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 22, 2015, 11:50:02 am
What I use is a sanding drum I made on a lathe that is the same diameter as the bearing pocket.  It also does both bearing pockets at the same time.   I then have a sanding disc stuck to a flat ground 1" thick piece of steel.   I use this to sand the base of the cylinder down.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on April 22, 2015, 12:26:53 pm
I've sanded bases down to a certain dimension with sand paper on a glass pane. I take preliminary measurements on each corner and attempt to get each corner reduced by the desired amount and the entire surface flat. It takes a little more pressure towards one corner or the other.
 
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 22, 2015, 01:00:41 pm
I've sanded bases down to a certain dimension with sand paper on a glass pane. I take preliminary measurements on each corner and attempt to get each corner reduced by the desired amount and the entire surface flat. It takes a little more pressure towards one corner or the other.
 

I sand in a figure 8 and rotate the base as I go.  I have never had a problem with it being uneven.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 22, 2015, 01:02:48 pm
Here is a picture of the sanding drum I made sitting in the cylinder of the 5020.  As you can see it is not wide enouph for the cylinder because it was originally made for a 295 cylinder.  The bearing size looks to be the same.

Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on April 22, 2015, 01:22:12 pm
Neat tool
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 22, 2015, 01:50:23 pm
Redneck Award goes to Roger.   ;)


(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSRLMbRA6qaN9GRofxmQjTndvCrMwQT59zquruqhpXaG1lNMTJv)

Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Chris-PA on April 22, 2015, 02:31:17 pm
I don't know about the 5020 bearings, but the diameter of the rubber coated bearings for the 42cc family is different than that used in the 295.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on April 22, 2015, 02:47:01 pm
I like the idea of using the print back technique and observing the lines left on the rubber bearing jacket from the original seam between the cylinder and the pan or bearing cap to make the new bearing pockets.

On a MS250 there is the bearing pocket, the seal pocket, and then the seal lip. That makes it more difficult to recess the crank to decrease the squish. The combined seal/bearing takes half the work out of it.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 22, 2015, 03:05:14 pm
I like the idea of using the print back technique and observing the lines left on the rubber bearing jacket from the original seam between the cylinder and the pan or bearing cap to make the new bearing pockets.

On a MS250 there is the bearing pocket, the seal pocket, and then the seal lip. That makes it more difficult to recess the crank to decrease the squish. The combined seal/bearing takes half the work out of it.

I believe the Husqvarna 455 is the same.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on April 22, 2015, 03:06:03 pm
Redneck Award goes to Roger.   ;)


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That is a crack up.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Chris-PA on April 22, 2015, 03:38:28 pm
I've wondered how much vibration damping and how much movement the rubber coating allows?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: man of stihl on April 22, 2015, 06:37:31 pm
Redneck Award goes to Roger.   ;)


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HAHAHA
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 08, 2015, 12:16:57 am
Got a new piston and cylinder on order from order tree.   Now just wait for it to show up.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 09, 2015, 03:34:09 pm
I received the piston and cylinder.   I found that the cylinder did not have any of the holes tapped for threads except the spark plug hole.   The cylinder looked ok other wise so I went ahead and tapped them out myself.   
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on May 09, 2015, 04:00:19 pm
The original used a form of self tapping screw? It doesn't have the notch in the point of the screw but the has a triangular shape to the diameter?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 09, 2015, 04:39:57 pm
The original used a form of self tapping screw? It doesn't have the notch in the point of the screw but the has a triangular shape to the diameter?

I did not know that.   Well they are all tapped out now.    Thanks for letting me know.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on May 09, 2015, 05:36:36 pm
+1
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 10, 2015, 10:13:05 am
Learning from your build here too.  Interesting, any pics of these?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 10, 2015, 10:30:05 am
Learning from your build here too.  Interesting, any pics of these?

No I have not taken any pics of the new cylinder.   I am how ever going to modify it a little and I am still contemplating what I am going to do.    I was looking at the transfer ports and will leave them alone.   They are already a decent size I may just smooth them out some is all.   I will take some pics.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun on May 10, 2015, 10:54:46 am
I was seeing if you had a pic of the fasteners for cylinder.  Was wanting to see this self thread deal.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 10, 2015, 11:06:18 am
I was seeing if you had a pic of the fasteners for cylinder.  Was wanting to see this self thread deal.

I can take some pics of the screws used.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 10, 2015, 06:07:03 pm
Ok here is a picture of the engine mounting screw.   It is the self tapping screw that Jim was referring to.   It is a triangular shape on the end.

Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 10, 2015, 06:14:18 pm
Here is a picture of the cylinder after I lowered the bearing area and then sanded the bottom of the cylinder.
I started with .035" and when I finished with it and put it in the case the squish is now at .019".

I also widened up the intake and exhaust ports and cleaned up the transfers a little.   None of it was big steps just a little grinding to open it up a little.

In the second photo you can see where I put the covers for the transfer ports back in.   They had to be ground down a little to because the bearing seal rides on them also.

Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: jmester on May 10, 2015, 08:59:02 pm
Those screws look similar to those used on stihl 021-039 and ms 210-390 engine pan to cylinder screws. Did you just remove material from the cylinder base to lower the squish? How do the seals and bearings meet the engine pan and cylinder. Would think there maybe a gap as the bearings are the same size and you made the circumference smaller between the pan and cylinder by lowering the cylinder. But I maybe wrong.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on May 10, 2015, 09:01:54 pm
The fit of the seal/bearing pocket and its adjustment were discussed earlier in the thread?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 10, 2015, 09:12:19 pm
Very neat work Roger.   8)

Be interesting to see how she runs compared to the stocker.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 10, 2015, 09:15:26 pm
Those screws look similar to those used on stihl 021-039 and ms 210-390 engine pan to cylinder screws. Did you just remove material from the cylinder base to lower the squish? How do the seals and bearings meet the engine pan and cylinder. Would think there maybe a gap as the bearings are the same size and you made the circumference smaller between the pan and cylinder by lowering the cylinder. But I maybe wrong.

I lowered the bearing seal seat first by .016" and then sanded the base of the cylinder by the same amount.   So no gap.
There is a sealant that has to be used between the two halves of the crankcase also.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 10, 2015, 09:19:11 pm
Very neat work Roger.   8)

Be interesting to see how she runs compared to the stocker.

I am going to port match the intake and the exhaust.   Then do a muffler mod and advance the timing.   It should be interesting.   I still have the other 5020 that I got from you and I have not changed anything on it.   Comparison time.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: jmester on May 10, 2015, 09:23:47 pm
Yes sorry just went back threw and read the earlier posts. Very nice tool design and nice work thanks for posting. Need to make sure I go back and read the previous post before I type a reply. Rookie moment
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on May 10, 2015, 09:35:28 pm
We've all been there and done that at one time
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 11, 2015, 06:31:22 pm
I got the 5020 all put back together today.   Saw runs good, idles good, starts good.   Nothing super dooper after all it is still a 50cc saw.   I want to run it some more and break it in alittle before comparing it to a stocker.
I also want to do some compression checks.

Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 11, 2015, 06:45:44 pm
Looks like new still. Was it straight gassed? I cant remember.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 11, 2015, 09:03:37 pm
Looks like new still. Was it straight gassed? I cant remember.

No a circlip got loose inside the cylinder and grooved piston and cylinder.   The saw was in great shape other wise.
I never changed the fuel lines or messed with the carb either.   All I had to do was put a P&C in it.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 12, 2015, 02:25:19 pm
Roger I am still so impressed on how you have come up with a way to tighten the squish on these clamshell saws.

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Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 12, 2015, 07:07:33 pm
Thanks Kevin.   Hey did you know that the 5020 had a rev limiting coil on it.   The max Rpm I could get was 12000 rpm and I can hear the coil kick in.    I was hoping for more then that.

I wonder if any of the Husky saws will have a coil that will fit.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: old guy on May 12, 2015, 08:38:09 pm
I tached my first one at 13200 and I think Modified Mark did also, I gave that one to my Grandson and have another one now and saw 12300 on it but have not worked on it for a while, I will have to get back at it.

   John
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 12, 2015, 08:43:10 pm
I tached my first one at 13200 and I think Modified Mark did also, I gave that one to my Grandson and have another one now and saw 12300 on it but have not worked on it for a while, I will have to get back at it.
   John

I wonder if they changed the coil at a later time on these.   I have a stocker here and will have to see what it is.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on May 12, 2015, 10:58:00 pm
Modified  Mark says the coil is not limited in 2012
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 12, 2015, 11:01:34 pm
Maybe I messed up on my mods.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on May 12, 2015, 11:19:40 pm
These Craftsmans use the same coil

358.350981
358.350980
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on May 12, 2015, 11:24:15 pm
Walbro MB-74

To read the numbers on the coil there is no mention of a Rpm limit like on a Husqvarna coil

http://www.ereplacementparts.com/module-ignition-walbro-mb74-p-1005024.html

Also used on the PP 4818
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 12, 2015, 11:37:07 pm
Ok I will check it out.   I want to put the tach on the saw I got from Kevin first and see what I get.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: old guy on May 13, 2015, 12:59:02 pm
I went out and fired it up today made a couple or three cuts to warm it up then put the tach to it, the most I could get was 12100 at about 2 1/2 turns out.
  When I bought it I looked in the plug hole with a lite and could see a mark about 5/16" wide above the exhaust port, but the owner put his comp. tester on it and it blew a little over 160, so I decided to take it for $90.
 
I took it home and ran it a small amount, then I got my own comp tester and the saw was down to 148, after running it today it's at 130,I think I gotta pull it down and look at it, looks like a new slug & jug is less than $50
  This will be my first clamshell.

   John


Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 13, 2015, 01:00:37 pm
That stock one wont be broke in yet either IMO. Just so you know.  Unless you have put several tanks through it since getting it.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun on May 13, 2015, 01:47:24 pm
Roger check that coil in the other one. I know it went over 12K. I liked 12.8K if I remember right for my tune stock.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun on May 13, 2015, 01:49:02 pm
13K would be all I would be comfortable with stock   http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/pp5020-rpm-settings/msg43671/#msg43671

See if the coil has 13.3K 13.5K 13.8k stamped on it somewhere.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 14, 2015, 02:45:57 pm
Well I did some checks today on the 5020.
First I checked the RPM's on the stock saw and max I could get was 12,200.
I switched coils and the spark plug from the stock to the modified 5020 and still the max RPM is 11,800.

I did a compression test on the stock saw and ground 140 psi.
I did a compression test on the modified saw and only got 125 psi.  Disappointing.  So the ring is not seating.
Even though the saw is not broke in it should be better than that with a squish of .019".
I double checked the squish again and found it still dead on at .019".
I pulled the muffler and could see no problems with the piston or cylinder.

I did block off the intake for the strato portion of the carb and saw ran much richer and after tuning it ran smoother at the higher RPM range.

Well I think I have some things to learn about the strato saws and what works and what does not.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on May 14, 2015, 03:22:40 pm
This rpm report is not that different from what others have said.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: old guy on May 14, 2015, 03:34:24 pm
I discovered that using the comp tester on a hot saw is not good, as the rubber O ring  on the hose gets hot it distorts and leaks, so I retested the 5020 cold and got 148 rather than 120.
  Next time I go where my other 5020 is I will take the tach along, I'm sure I set that on at 13200.
  John
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on May 14, 2015, 03:46:16 pm
My experience with Chinese rings is that they are very hard and may take a year or so for one of us with a lot of saws to get broken in completely.

You can see the status of the ring in the exhaust port. My observation is that you would see just a very small portion of the top edge of the ring with vertical marks instead of horizontal marks on a engine after just a few times use?  Whereas a plain cast iron ring would show vertical marks "broken in" from top to bottom at this point.

Also the Chinese tend to pride themselves with "as cast" cylinder walls where the Nikasil is sprayed onto the bore without any prior honing and then the cylinder is stuck over a flap wheel for a few seconds before being declared "finished". You'll see the bounce marks where the flaps went across the ports.

I bought a new Zenoah G62 cylinder some 4 or 5 years ago that said Husqvarna all over it. Most beautiful bore you ever seen with honing before and after chroming.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on May 14, 2015, 07:30:03 pm
I know I had set the stock one Roger has at 12.8K sort of fat in my area Ohio.  It could have went higher rpm but not to my liking as I felt any higher was to lean.

Weird 12.2K out your way. Air etc?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on May 14, 2015, 08:02:26 pm
It's 6000 ft in Cheyenne
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on May 14, 2015, 10:42:54 pm
I know I had set the stock one Roger has at 12.8K sort of fat in my area Ohio.  It could have went higher rpm but not to my liking as I felt any higher was to lean.

Weird 12.2K out your way. Air etc?

Yes I think it is the altitude here.    The saws just do not make as much power.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: old guy on June 07, 2015, 10:33:01 pm
Got my 5020 back together with a new p&c, tuned it by ear then put the tach on it and it was turning 12862, I will leave it there for now till I get some time on it.

  John
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on June 08, 2015, 12:22:44 am
There's nothing wrong with 12862 if you just leave it there?

Bird Dog and I were doing timed cuts in a cant with a ported 066. I went from 12,000 and eventually to 14500 in steps.

 The times through the cant were all the same.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Chris-PA on June 09, 2015, 09:24:40 pm
Are you talking no load rpm?
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 660magnum on June 10, 2015, 12:38:37 am
Yes, those were free running rpms.

The rpm in the cut remained the same
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: old guy on June 10, 2015, 07:11:39 am
I also put the .325 sprocket & 16" bar and chain on it and went out to the log, I noted a lack of performance & some smoke & heat from behind the clutch cover, I took the cover off & found the clutch drum & brake band were somewhat blued but no evidence that the brake was on. I put it back together,made sure chain was turning freely and brake was off, went to the log and got the same result, smoke & heat.
  The brake was not on and chain turned freely, took it apart again, more blue on drum & band.
 I put the 3/8 & .325 drums side by side and could see the .325 drum is much thinner metal.
 My conclusion is the clutch shoes are pushing hard enough on the drum rim to expand it out to the brake band.

  John
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 10, 2015, 12:05:19 pm
Curious @old guy what drum did you end up using for the .325 rim set up?  The echo clutch drum I used for 325 rim worked fine.

Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 10, 2015, 12:31:56 pm
Used on 50cc echo saws too going by this off baileys.  Make sure your drum you are using isnt wore out or warped from beinning. I've had that happen on a 166 before.

Echo: CS-400, CS-400EVL, CS-400EVLP, CS-440EVL, CS-510, CS-520, CS-530, CS-3600, CS-3900, CS-4400, CS-5100 (after SN 134504)
Replaces Echo Part Number: A556000021 and A556000020
John Deere 45
Replaces Oregon Part Numbers 30869
Fits Crankshaft Diameter .3937 (10mm)
Drive Sprocket Bearing ORF 37509
Rim Spline Size Small 7 tooth (RSS)
Optional Replacement Rim Pitch and Tooth Choices (sold separately)

    ORF 11892 325" x 7
    ORF 11891 325" x 8
    ORF 18720 375" x 7



One I used came right off a echo 3900 parts saw.


Echo 17510535431

Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: old guy on June 10, 2015, 06:02:58 pm
Got the box in my hand here, Oregon brand Part#513442  type A, designed to fit the following saws- john deere 45 45ev, echo C6400  CS440  CS3900  Dolmer 102
  I put this on my other saw last year and don't remember a problem, but I had a bad chain on that saw and only made a couple of cuts.
 I was looking forword to working with this cus it handles so much better with the shorter bar. :(

    John
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 10, 2015, 08:04:22 pm
You could always go to 16" 3/8 on it. That is the set up I liked best.  K095 mount bars small huskys.

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Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 26, 2015, 12:48:01 pm
Member measured a like new 5020 drum with not much time on it, 2mm thick. I measured a 3900 drum that has been used a forever with a alot of time on it at 1.55mm thick.

Measurements taken where clutch makes contact on drums.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: old guy on June 26, 2015, 04:46:31 pm
After reading the previous post I measured my clutch drum thickness with a starret ball mike at a constant .069 - .070, converting this to metric on my digital caliper resulted in 1.77 m/m.
 The drum is also showing a bit of a flare at the edge, so I guess this particular drum is not going to work on this particular saw.
 Maybe it was not heat treated correctly.  ymmv

   John
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 27, 2015, 11:58:15 am
My echo drum was labeled OEM echo not one of the aftermarket ones like herr etc. You might be onto something there.
Title: New Poulan PR5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 07, 2017, 02:33:35 pm
Wondering whats new with the Poulan PR5020 over the PP5020AV that is out.  4818 is the same as 5020 just shorter bar

Poulan PR 5020 IPL http://www.poulanpro.com/ddoc/PPOI/PPOI2016_AAaa/PPOI2016_AAaa_PR5020_2016-04.pdf
Title: Re: New Poulan PR5020
Post by: Revpop on March 26, 2017, 03:28:11 pm
Looks like an aesthetic makeover, combined with some new marketing upgrades:
http://www.poulanpro.com/us/products/chainsaws/pr5020/967061401/
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 02, 2018, 11:12:35 am
New redesigned poulan PR5020 pics at all sides. http://www.poulanpro.com/us/products/chainsaws/pr5020/967061401/

Will merge the other 5020 threads too.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 02, 2018, 08:32:53 pm
Check that out looks like a side tensioner on the clutch cover

PR5020
Part number: 967061401
Powered by a 50cc 2-cycle engine, the Poulan Pro PR5020 chainsaw is powerful and very easy to start and operate. A robust, all-round model with low weight, equipped with OxyPower engine for more power, lower emission levels and lower fuel consumption. Quick and easy to start, featuring Soft Start, purge and integrated choke/stop controls. Easy handling and maintenance with convenient side adjust chain tensioning along with easy access clips on the cylinder cover for fast access to filter and spark plug. Combi tool integrated in the rear handle. Backed by a 2-year limited warranty.

Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 02, 2018, 10:26:47 pm
Yep sure looks like a side tensioner to me too.   
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020 PR5020 Poulan 5020 4818
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 01, 2018, 03:10:24 pm
Found 2 saws today. Thought why not a PR5020 with side tensioner PHO. 

Other one was a nice 353 in 353 thread.

pics

Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020 PR5020 Poulan 5020 4818
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 02, 2018, 09:53:00 am
Bought and paid for  the PR5020 yesterday and now seller backs out and wont ship.  See if my paypal refund shows up now.  SMH   :P
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020 PR5020 Poulan 5020 4818
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 02, 2018, 10:54:37 am
I would be watching real close and ready to contact Paypal.     It only takes 60 seconds on a computer to return your money on Paypal. 
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020 PR5020 Poulan 5020 4818
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 03, 2018, 09:56:42 am
I would be watching real close and ready to contact Paypal.     It only takes 60 seconds on a computer to return your money on Paypal. 

Been refunded but the $ dont show in the PP account. Says on hold for some reason.  Dont get that part.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020 PR5020 Poulan 5020 4818
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 05, 2018, 08:00:50 am
Still shows pending refund. No money in account.  Wondering as I sent cash money right from my account to his.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020 PR5020 Poulan 5020 4818
Post by: 3000 FPS on February 05, 2018, 03:00:23 pm
Can you contact PayPal and find out why it is pending.   Sounds like some kind of stall tactic.   
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020 PR5020 Poulan 5020 4818
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 05, 2018, 03:52:12 pm
Can you contact PayPal and find out why it is pending.   Sounds like some kind of stall tactic.   

It shows refund but says pending over it so not credited to my account yet. I cant figure it out.  Going to give few more days being it was right before weekend. 
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020 PR5020 Poulan 5020 4818
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 05, 2018, 04:15:31 pm
Can you contact PayPal and find out why it is pending.   Sounds like some kind of stall tactic.   

It shows refund but says pending over it so not credited to my account yet. I cant figure it out.  Going to give few more days being it was right before weekend. 

Here are a few common refund statuses:

Pending: If your refund status is Pending, It could be because PayPal has not yet received the funds from the buyer's bank for the Instant Transfer, or that the seller issued an eCheck that has not yet cleared from their bank. It usually takes 3-5 business days for the money to become available in your PayPal balance.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020 PR5020 Poulan 5020 4818
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 06, 2018, 08:13:07 pm
Got it today.  So going to go buy another craftsman 3.3 predator 335. ;)
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020 PR5020 Poulan 5020 4818
Post by: Revpop on February 06, 2018, 10:17:22 pm
Another thing I noticed on the PR5020 is the addition of a stamped tin bar clamp shield on clutch cover side.  My Craftsman 358.350982 does not have it nor does IPL for the earlier PP5020 version.
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020 PR5020 Poulan 5020 4818
Post by: Revpop on February 08, 2018, 03:32:00 pm
Craftsman version testing Forrester Platinum 20" bar 72DL in some silver fir.  Same as PP5020.  Everything has its limits, and kind of like asking a jet fighter to fly in outer space.  Testing reveals it may need fattening up a little on both L & H as I was experiencing minor surging in  the cut.  Will probably leave it alone for now though.

https://youtu.be/yjSDy69cxkM
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020 PR5020 Poulan 5020 4818
Post by: stubnail67 on February 08, 2018, 06:24:42 pm
I like that bar .....thats alot of wood for a 50 cc saw....i have not had a chance to run a poulan 5020 yet....
Title: Re: Poulan pro 5020 PR5020 Poulan 5020 4818
Post by: Cut4fun . on June 21, 2018, 08:30:48 am
Just watched a video of the craftsman 35098  version of the poulan 5020 with 28" making cuts in softwood.  What I noticed was the full wrap and dawg on it. Save a pic from video.


Was in the CR-G