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Title: PS PS3 Rd 1 Rd2 Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 29, 2015, 06:11:32 pm
CHAINS MUST BE RECEIVED NO LATER THEN DEC 17TH 2015 AT 8PM

Thinking of doing a chain build off using any picco 3/8LP chain you desire.  IMO you would be nuts not to use stihl PS or at least PS3.  :P

All chains will be videoed and shown here and all chains will have times posted. If you cant live with that DO NOT enter. ;)

Just like we have always done in the past years and everyone enjoys it. Times and video of each cut. Heck most of us own up to which video is our chain and times. Nothing to hide IMO.


PM me if you are interested or make a post here.

Thinking it will be stock 39cc-46cc saw and 45dl chain maybe to cut a 8x8 or 10x10 cant.   I need to check IF 45dl will fit a 3/8 7T rim first on 39cc 46cc.  Might have to go with a 6T spur on a 46cc. Hmmm

Just in the testing the water stages for winter.  ;D

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on September 29, 2015, 06:32:23 pm
I'm in.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 29, 2015, 06:35:39 pm
I sold everything I ever square filed with.   :'(

But I will tryn beg borrow but never steal to come up with something.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on September 29, 2015, 07:03:10 pm
I'm game...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Eccentric on September 29, 2015, 07:50:35 pm
This'll be interesting.

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTt9UXU4RWZ7izUJ4NYusqDGtAqt0kbZyd8ayq-nKJ-rNiEYFEMoinL--By)

45DL of LP is 'standard' for a 12" bar on most smaller saws running A041 or K041 mount LP bars.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 29, 2015, 08:10:22 pm
Yep that was my reason. ;)  45DL. I just need to check it will still work using a 3/8 7
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on September 29, 2015, 08:13:41 pm
I'll try to find me a loop. Probably won't get to test run it first.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 29, 2015, 08:17:06 pm
We got all winter for it.  Right now just getting us all prepared. No hurry Mike. ;)


Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 29, 2015, 08:18:22 pm
I got a friend I will call to check on some fresh cants before hand.  If not I will get them from a racer friend I used to order from.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 29, 2015, 08:20:09 pm
3/8LP 050   
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 29, 2015, 08:21:23 pm
Heck I will do one.   I do no know about buying a chain to do it.  Will probably use something I have around here.   
Never done a race chain before but it will still be fun.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 29, 2015, 08:23:38 pm
3/8LP 050   


Just to confirm.   3/8LP,  .050,  45DL.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 29, 2015, 09:04:25 pm
3/8LP 050   


Just to confirm.   3/8LP,  .050,  45DL.

I'm going to try and test fit a 45dl on a 3/8 7 tomorrow to make sure.  Other wise yes on 3/8LP 050
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 29, 2015, 09:08:44 pm
Roger you got any PS PS3? It can be square filed.

I tried square filing semi back in the day before PS and knocked off about 6 seconds, but it is no where close to this new PS chain.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 29, 2015, 09:29:01 pm
I will have to see about getting some PS 3.   I think I bought one chain in PS 3 awhile back but I do not believe it was only 45DL.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on September 29, 2015, 09:44:47 pm
anything for us lame round filers?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 29, 2015, 09:48:22 pm
Well  I am not much of a square filer but I have done some .325 before.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on September 29, 2015, 09:48:29 pm
Pretty sure I have a roll of the ps3. Happy to make loops for anyone who wants to participate.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on September 29, 2015, 09:58:56 pm

anything for us lame round filers?
Send a round filed one in with some work done to it.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on September 29, 2015, 10:03:38 pm
if i can't find the chain around here adam, put me down for a loop.

 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on September 30, 2015, 03:42:50 am
I am in !!
Can we send more than 1 loop ?
I can send in an off the roll PS3 for baseline

I absolutely freaking LOVE the fact that all entries will be video'd and all times will be posted !

Is the saw muffler modded ?
Would be better for me if I knew a little more about the saw you plan on running it with, especially if you are going to a 6 tooth driver

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 30, 2015, 11:52:49 am
anything for us lame round filers?

Just round file. Heck I might just put my name to the stock chain for times.
As I dont square file for chit.  I guess I could try one of my modified round filed deals like back in the beginning.   Just not into it but thought others might like to try and see.

Just so you know I will have a PS  PS3 stock off the reel chains for comparison sake.  To see gains or losses.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 30, 2015, 11:54:13 am
Pretty sure I have a roll of the ps3. Happy to make loops for anyone who wants to participate.

Thank you for offering this up.  I would to but I am down to about 80dl ps3 and out of ps. Just a ps loop or 2 left.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 30, 2015, 11:56:29 am
We have always at posted times and most times videos too in past. Why in the world wouldnt you?

Theres nothing to hide IMO this chit is always been for fun. Nobody cares.  ::)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 30, 2015, 12:38:54 pm
It has already been brought up soooooooo. Please start with fresh loop of chain.
Someone was already wanting to send in a 3/8LP racechain they made this year in wrong DL count.   ::)

Lets all start with stock chain and file from there. Some of us just dont set around for hours and hours  filing race chains for fun.   

All chains must be sent in or dropped off by dead line ( date still to be decided). Then they all will be tested at a later date.

Please do not take the fun out of this sort of thing.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on September 30, 2015, 01:19:25 pm
New LoPro chain :                                                Check
Deadline TBD :                                                     Check
Does the 7 tooth work with 45 DL :                        ???
Date of race TBD :                                                Check
Stock saw (assuming no muffler mod):                Check
Multiple entries allowed :                                         ???
Model number of saw :                                            ???

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 30, 2015, 01:30:46 pm
New LoPro chain :                                                Check
Deadline TBD :                                                     Check
Does the 7 tooth work with 45 DL :                        ???
Date of race TBD :                                                Check
Stock saw (assuming no muffler mod):                Check
Multiple entries allowed :                                         ???
Model number of saw :                                            ???



#3 Will try and check today.

#5 stock saw with very slight under deflector muffler mod (want this about chain, not ported saw).  IF the 45dl will work with the 3/8 7

#6 yes

#7  right now leaning toward echo 3900 39cc, also have option of poulan 295 46cc and 6 spur (if I order the LP spur set up), 2700 46cc 3/8 7 (would need to check fit on this too), also 025 250 if I buy a spur set up and 12" bar (then I think they are 44dl, but I lean toward 45dl as more common IMO.


We have plenty of time folks all winter. No hurry. I am working 6-7 days a week and then fixing other folks saws on the side. Heck had 3 come in yesterday.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 30, 2015, 01:33:42 pm
Already sent 1 email asking about 8x8 cants.  So will tell wood type when I find out. 

Thinking shag bark hickory or black oak should separate men from the boys.  ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 30, 2015, 01:55:17 pm
Link to one of the old chain build offs.   http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/chain/chain-build-off/10/

We put names to the letters later on as we had nothing to hide.

It's all said and done and posted on CompetitionSaws.  Just updating thread and sharing info here too.

Thanks to Steve and Jay doing all the testing with a stock 3120 and 9T practice saw  ;).  3 single cuts in 10x10 yellow poplar.

Link to chains tested.  http://www.youtube.com/user/competitionsaws/videos

Steve = Here is the results of the chain build off. I want to thank everybody who sent chains and  Monday I will be sending the chains back to you. I am sorry i missed the target date on the build but a new  little lumberjack came in to jays and my life so it had to be put off. Jay has a grandboy to be proud of ;)

The first chain we ran was a totally stock 60 driver oregon chain bought at the local co-op. the average time for 3 cuts was 2.89. Oregon LGX

Chain A 2.47  2.28 2.40 average 2.38
Chain B 2.50  2.57  2.31             2.48
Chain C 2.94   2.65  2.56             2.71
Chain D 2.53   2.54  2.35            2.47
Chain E  3.03   2.50  2.65            2.72
Chain F   2.72   2.66  2.91            2.76
Chain G   2.71   2.63  2.40            2.58
Chain  H  2.75   3.06  2.81             2.87
Chain I    2.66   2.59  2.47            2.57
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 30, 2015, 03:03:39 pm
Had to do some filing on the bar adjuster holes but she'll work. 45dl puts it at the end of tensioner. Can drill another hole if it ends up being needed later. 

Only 10" of usable bar to the plastic dawgs. So 8x8

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/201T/supxxvecho45dl%20006_zpsxiuejbdu.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/201T/supxxvecho45dl%20006_zpsxiuejbdu.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on September 30, 2015, 04:10:50 pm
anything for us lame round filers?

Just round file. Heck I might just put my name to the stock chain for times.
As I dont square file for chit.  I guess I could try one of my modified round filed deals like back in the beginning.   Just not into it but thought others might like to try and see.

Just so you know I will have a PS  PS3 stock off the reel chains for comparison sake.  To see gains or losses.

i'll give the square a go.....just want to have some fun is all!  i got last place locked up.  lol.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on September 30, 2015, 04:29:43 pm
 I will give it a go. Can we send in one that is round and one that is square? I have never done a build off for anything but i think it is going to be fun.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 30, 2015, 04:42:58 pm
Yep send what you want in 3/8LP 050 picco 45dl  or 44dl  Note 44DL will fit the saw too.

Cants are a go. Just placed order.  8"x8"x8'
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 30, 2015, 04:45:06 pm
So next question. Do you all want 2 or 3 cuts?  Then average the 2 or 3 cuts to come up with fastest average? 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on September 30, 2015, 05:23:27 pm
2 is good. 3 would be better I'm sure but that will get into more wood if there's a lot of entries.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 30, 2015, 06:39:31 pm
Should be some smoking fast times in white pine 8x8 cants.   Just so you know I was joking earlier.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on September 30, 2015, 07:49:10 pm
I'd have to do a driver count not to mention find the damned chain .I already have a 14" loop of PS 3 for the 200t T .Square filed,dog boned and polished .The next question is where the H is it at .

For those who don't know at one time at the GTG's we once raced two cubers . ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 30, 2015, 08:04:30 pm
I'd have to do a driver count not to mention find the damned chain .I already have a 14" loop of PS 3 for the 200t T .Square filed,dog boned and polished .The next question is where the H is it at .

For those who don't know at one time at the GTG's we once raced two cubers . ;)

Wish we had PS PS3 back then.   ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 30, 2015, 08:19:29 pm
I'd have to do a driver count not to mention find the damned chain .I already have a 14" loop of PS 3 for the 200t T .Square filed,dog boned and polished .The next question is where the H is it at .

For those who don't know at one time at the GTG's we once raced two cubers . ;)

This will all be new to me.  Never raced a saw and have never tried a race chain.  It should be fun.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on September 30, 2015, 08:25:45 pm
I hope to send in a few chains of each (PS and PS3)

Dont know if I will be sending a race chain, most likely work chains ................

Might have to break down and get a few more files to make a race one since dudes are already eyeballing polished chains, and wanting to run already race prepped ones  :-\

Might not have the time to make a race chain, this is my busy time.

Are you thinking this year or after the Holidays ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 30, 2015, 08:33:16 pm
I'm off a week and half during Christmas time. But I am thinking after New Years right now. 

Maybe come up with a deadline for chains to be here?  Dec 17th?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on September 30, 2015, 09:12:49 pm
I'm off a week and half during Christmas time. But I am thinking after New Years right now. 

Maybe come up with a deadline for chains to be here?  Dec 17th?

Sounds good to me ..........
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on September 30, 2015, 09:20:56 pm
Guess I better start practicing on square chains again. Is there going to one class for work chains and one for race. Or just make it as fast as you can make it.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on September 30, 2015, 09:47:25 pm
I found some PS 3 .050 44DL full chisel chain on line.   So you said 44DL was ok also.   
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on September 30, 2015, 10:33:56 pm
Is there going to one class for work chains and one for race. Or just make it as fast as you can make it.

If I could suggest that all chains be ran, with a description of it being a work chain or race chain................. this was the format at last years Hedgefest.

Let Cut4fun decide if there was an attempt to thin rivets, clip heels, tunnel, dog bone, etc ................. if any one or more are found, its a race chain
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on September 30, 2015, 10:50:01 pm
 The thin kerf PS chain will make the round filed chain look pretty good!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 01, 2015, 12:35:23 am
I would like in. This sounds fun. But I have a favor. I have no way of. Breaking down my 50 Dl ps chain. Would anyone want to help with that. Its not like im going to win so you really wouldn't be sleeping with the enemy. Lol. Anything goes on the chain , like thinning and so forth? I read everything didn't see anything. But, then again I wouldn't no how to do it.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 01, 2015, 07:07:33 am
I would like in. This sounds fun. But I have a favor. I have no way of. Breaking down my 50 Dl ps chain. Would anyone want to help with that. Its not like im going to win so you really wouldn't be sleeping with the enemy. Lol. Anything goes on the chain , like thinning and so forth? I read everything didn't see anything. But, then again I wouldn't no how to do it.
PM me your address ............ I will spin you a new PS3 with 44DL's and send it to you

I can offer to break and spin your PS, but shipping it to NY is up to you
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 11:58:44 am
Folks can tell me in note with chain if work or race. Plus I will look the chain over and make sure in the proper group. 

I owned thinned cutter etc racechain back in the day so I do know what to look for. ;)   

I only know of a few folks thinning cutters.  3-4 right now.

I will run them all together but will make note beside chain if work or race.  Sound good?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 12:01:07 pm
I found some PS 3 .050 44DL full chisel chain on line.   So you said 44DL was ok also.   

Yep 44dl will work as 45dl was putting tensioner at max.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 01, 2015, 12:03:39 pm
Folks can tell me in note with chain if work or race. Plus I will look the chain over and make sure in the proper group. 

I owned thinned cutter etc racechain back in the day so I do know what to look for. ;)   

I only know of a few folks thinning cutters.  3-4 right now.

I will run them all together but will make note beside chain if work or race.  Sound good?

I dont know how you could make it any better !

So I am spinning 44DL .............. is this 6 tooth or 7 tooth ?


Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 12:05:31 pm
I priced PS 25' online and it was $114 shipped,  PS3 $109. 

Dang last hook up I got from member here was $75 shipped but he no longer has his connection.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 12:07:18 pm
3/8 7   I really need to test the little guy and see if it can pull 3/8 7. 

I ran 325 7 since owning it. 

If it cant I will let folks know and maybe go to a stock 353 346NE with the K095 12" bar.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 12:10:54 pm
I would like in. This sounds fun. But I have a favor. I have no way of. Breaking down my 50 Dl ps chain. Would anyone want to help with that. Its not like im going to win so you really wouldn't be sleeping with the enemy. Lol. Anything goes on the chain , like thinning and so forth? I read everything didn't see anything. But, then again I wouldn't no how to do it.

Take to a dealer should only be a couple bucks by them. Ask first some are crazy priced. 

Shipping back forth cost isnt wise $$ wise.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 12:40:28 pm
PS3 2011 pic and thread I started then. 2013 PS entered I think, maybe 14 not sure anymore, but will be in thread with date.  Videos in this thread of all the chains back then ran. http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/chain/picco-38lp-round-chisel-cutter-chain/

Some times with a 35cc stock poulan pp3516 and 6T  2 year old dry aspen 8x8 cants.

Oregon 91 safety  10.96 and 10.90

Oregon 91 full skip  spun when hit wood 11.09 and 10.65

Carlton N1   9.28 and 9.06

Stihl 63PS3   7.31  and 7.56

Windsor 50R   10.34  and 9.93

Oregon VXL   10.03 and 9.41

]http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/200T/chiselchainLP004.jpg[/
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 12:42:12 pm
PM semi cutter left,  PS PS3 cutter right

 width=600 height=450]http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/200T/StihlPSandPM008.jpg
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 01:13:40 pm
I'm thinking of creating a NEW username just for this so we can keep the addresses and PM stuff straight.  I have 1000's of PM's in my username here so this might work better.  ChainBuildOff  will let ya know when I do it and then will delete when done.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 01:24:50 pm
Done ChainBuildOff http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2944

No email for this name. Just for PMing addresses etc for this build off so they dont get lost in the shuffle.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 01:39:17 pm
Made a board just for this thread. ;) Moving it all now.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 01, 2015, 01:49:44 pm
@Gatekeeper

Do you still need a loop or two ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 02:01:03 pm
I just called the stihl dealer for PS 25' $150 cash price  :o  I can get 25' online for $114 to my door. If anyone wants me to order it and make loops plus shipping. Basically .30 cent a drive link, baileys wants .37 DL plus shipping.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 02:05:07 pm
Done ChainBuildOff http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2944

No email for this name. Just for PMing addresses etc for this build off so they dont get lost in the shuffle.



Use above to PM for mailing address for shipping chains.   

PM ChainBuildOff   http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=2944


I guess we can go with Dec 17th deadline for chains to be on hand to be tested at later date.  Sound good?

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ChainBuildOff on October 01, 2015, 02:52:17 pm
Checking username for chain build off address use only.    Use this to request address and return address etc.

Also maybe include and note with chains work race and return address etc. Also stuff like how you know how chain likes fed. Light hand, heavy hand, self feeding type it. I know it matters. ;)

Sometimes this stuff can be caught by me on 1st cut as I see how chain acts. But if we only do 2 cuts for testing that 1 could be good to know before hand.

I will try to check this username once a day for PM's.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 01, 2015, 02:53:38 pm
Consider me in..
If I can get a loop from someone.
The only one's I have left are 60 and 56 I think.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 03:07:35 pm
Consider me in..


My 25cc echo pulled stock PS chain just fine with 6.

I do need to check and see if the 39cc will pull it ok with 3/8 7. I know it pulled 325 with 7 fine. But I need to know.

I just want this to be about the chain. Not some over powered ported saw slinging the little stuff at crazy speeds. Thats why I liked testing chains on stock saws to get the real pic of them cutting.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 03:14:56 pm
The cant order was confirmed and will be ready.

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ5yI92m7cOjvXdI0JkudsL-bcNIpZjXcdP2N1SB-nK3kvj9I0n)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 01, 2015, 03:15:12 pm
This is gonna be quite the challenge. That PS is hungry stuff. To the point of gagging on it's own feed!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 03:18:02 pm
I think I may go check a stock PS in a cherry I have on hand and then bury in some maple to see if the 39cc can pull with 3/8 7.

See ya later to report back.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 03:53:00 pm
This is gonna be quite the challenge. That PS is hungry stuff. To the point of gagging on it's own feed!

You have to remember ps3 ps was made for a 35cc stihl 201T ;)   

The 39cc echo 3900 pulled the 3/8 7 with no problems with stock PS. 

You know what your building chain for so build accordingly.   

People shouldnt  expect to just cut  60dl  race chain and send it in and expect it to be the fastest.  Those were built with 50cc woods ported saws in mind. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 01, 2015, 03:54:02 pm
Consider me in..
If I can get a loop from someone.
The only one's I have left are 60 and 56 I think.

I would be happy to spin you a loop or two of PS3........... send to same work address ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 01, 2015, 03:59:27 pm
I am holding off on filing untill the saw and drive tooth count is finalized ..................

I like the idea of a 33cc and a 6 tooth - but whatever you decide (ChainBuildOff) is fine for me
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 01, 2015, 04:00:25 pm
Consider me in..
If I can get a loop from someone.
The only one's I have left are 60 and 56 I think.

I would be happy to spin you a loop or two of PS3........... send to same work address ?
You bet! Thanks! Put note in box as to what I owe ya.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 04:13:51 pm
I am holding off on filing untill the saw and drive tooth count is finalized ..................

I like the idea of a 33cc and a 6 tooth - but whatever you decide (ChainBuildOff) is fine for me

Its been done and posted.  Just tested the 39cc echo 3900 with 3/8 7T. 44DL will fit better but 45DL is what I use and used on saw with tensioner at max.  So 44 or 45 050
Very little muffler mod under deflector.



REPOST  You have to remember ps3 ps was made for a 35cc stihl 201T ;)   

The 39cc echo 3900 pulled the 3/8 7 with no problems with stock PS.
  in cherry 6"- 7" and maple log buried

You know what your building chain for so build accordingly.   

People shouldnt  expect to just cut  60dl  race chain and send it in and expect it to be the fastest.  Those were built with 50cc woods ported saws in mind. ;)

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on October 01, 2015, 04:45:18 pm
Quote
 

People shouldnt  expect to just cut  60dl  race chain and send it in and expect it to be the fastest.  Those were built with 50cc woods ported saws in mind. ;)



I think I see what you did there. LOL

Small stock saw puts an interesting twist for sure.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 04:49:16 pm
Quote
 

People shouldnt  expect to just cut  60dl  race chain and send it in and expect it to be the fastest.  Those were built with 50cc woods ported saws in mind. ;)



I think I see what you did there. LOL

Small stock saw puts an interesting twist for sure.

Fixed your quote.  Good to see ya Shaun.

Bookies have good odds on you for this chain build.  ;)

I got the old grey mare odds for a long long long shot.  :D


Got to remember I have been in this for a pretty long time and seen it all tried.  ;)  Just like 365 saws with big HL on them running in a woods ported work saw class.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 01, 2015, 05:41:11 pm
@Gatekeeper

Do you still need a loop or two ?
Sure. Adam has some as well.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 05:57:24 pm
Does anyone have a new loop of PS 45dl or 44dl I can use for the stock chain? 
That way I can file my last 45dl and not have to break my 56dl down.

I can provide a stock PS3 for testing and I will break down my 70dl to make a filed loop if I do it or loan to 660magnum to try.

Just send it with your filed chain when time comes.  8)

Just dont want to buy a 25' roll after seeing wives shopping receipts  today  :'( and ordering 3 cants etc.  Time to catch up again.   :-X

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 06:02:39 pm
Just ran a echo 310 with 3/8LP semi wow. If the 3900 ran like that no way we could use it for build.  30.5cc  v/s 39cc but does the echo 400 run better then that? 

Any of you ran a 3900 to compare to a 400?    3900 IMO is close on heels to a good running 250 025 with 325 chains.  Just so you know the 250 has more torque in cut. Sort of like comparing a OE 346  to NE 346 in the cuts stock and ported.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 06:14:12 pm
Think up something for winner to get recognized?  Maybe a banner at top with username and first name and chain build  picco winner.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 01, 2015, 06:37:50 pm
You can just mail me a blue ribbon...
Lol...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 01, 2015, 06:51:27 pm
Is it too early for trash talk?
 ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 01, 2015, 07:03:37 pm
Sounds good to me. Bragging rights win overall. Lol ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 01, 2015, 07:06:46 pm
Not to early.
My round ground work chain amateur filed is going to SMOKE all the veterans race chains.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 01, 2015, 07:48:04 pm
You guys know I'm going to win
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 08:05:25 pm
I got 3 files picked out.   ;D 

(http://images.ffx.co.uk/tools/STA022464.JPG)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on October 01, 2015, 08:10:13 pm
   Save me a spot in the lineup for this shindig!

   Last year I filed up a loop of this stuff for use on my 29cc Mac PM6A at the races in Baraboo. I'll have to dig it back up and see if its anywhere near 44 drivers.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 01, 2015, 08:14:14 pm
Hey Alan, you get a chance to run Levi's 025 last week?
That was running square filed PS.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 01, 2015, 08:16:47 pm
I got PS3 loops going to :

Hedgerow
Gatekeeper
ch74

the Tenn and Missouri chains are getting 45 DL's   :D


I see the trash-talking has started ................. hhmmmmnnnnnnnn

(just thinking out loud here, but I could bend the drivers ever so slightly on the chains going to Tenn and Missouri. That might give the rest of us rusty bolts a fighting chance for second .......... SF takes first, we all race for sloppy second place) :-X
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 08:18:04 pm
Yep. I started on my chain tonight. I just need someone to break it down to the DL needed for the Race.

Oh and it's round. . CAUSE I SUCK AT SQUARE FILING!!

If needed I can break and mend.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 08:19:05 pm
   Save me a spot in the lineup for this shindig!

   Last year I filed up a loop of this stuff for use on my 29cc Mac PM6A at the races in Baraboo. I'll have to dig it back up and see if its anywhere near 44 drivers.

44 45 will work
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 01, 2015, 08:20:03 pm
44 for me.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 01, 2015, 08:22:56 pm
44 for me.
Sir ......... yes Sir !!!!

Sending all chains as 44 Dl's ........... but you Sir are still getting boogered drivers   :o
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 01, 2015, 08:26:22 pm
44 for me.
Sir ......... yes Sir !!!!

Sending all chains as 44 Dl's ........... but you Sir are still getting boogered drivers   :o

Send it here and I'll put it on the grinder and take it back for him on 1 pass.  ;D  That should harden it right up for filing.  :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 01, 2015, 08:29:53 pm
44 non-bent drivers for me!!
May wanna toss some cutters in there too..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 01, 2015, 08:31:57 pm
No heat treating needed!!
Lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 01, 2015, 09:02:25 pm
Lol.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 01, 2015, 09:04:25 pm
44 for me.
Sir ......... yes Sir !!!!

Sending all chains as 44 Dl's ........... but you Sir are still getting boogered drivers   :o

Hahaha...Lol... lmao.  ;D.... like my dad always said. ( if u ain't cheating, you ain't trying)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 01, 2015, 09:14:21 pm
44 for me.
Sir ......... yes Sir !!!!

Sending all chains as 44 Dl's ........... but you Sir are still getting boogered drivers   :o

Hahaha...Lol... lmao.  ;D.... like my dad always said. ( if u ain't cheating, you ain't trying)

We need all the help we can get ......(got pegged for thinking of grinding off the cutters and just sending drivers)...... Hedge and Gatekeeper are certified chain wizzards, but this PS stuff has been honed in by Square File pretty good.

In my eyes, I hope to get top 10 out of at least one chain ............... the competition is highly talented, well practised, and impossible to scare.............. and thats the rest of the field after Gatekeeper, Hedgerow, and Square File
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 01, 2015, 09:30:50 pm
Well I suck at making chains for baby saws. Maybe I can keep it where it wont stall LOL
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 01, 2015, 09:39:55 pm
No doubt..
What good does it do to clear chips if ya don't got enough poop to make em thick enough to worry bout it..
Looks like it'll be a sweet corner contest..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 01, 2015, 09:42:24 pm
He who gets the most stitches while filing wins??
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on October 01, 2015, 09:48:28 pm
On a Pico chain  if you are going to square file it takes some grinder work before you can even get a multi beveled file on the tooth .That damned stuff is tiny and a real pain to square file .Well quite frankly any chain is a pain in the azz to square file truth be known .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 01, 2015, 09:50:16 pm
Lol. Stitches suck. Only thing worth stiches is looking forward to the meds after they send u home....  ;D

I kinda figured that the one's that aren't talking much are the skilled , talented, vets. Or all of that together.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 01, 2015, 10:00:24 pm
Agreed Al..
It's pretty congested under there..
Worse than normal.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 01, 2015, 10:06:37 pm
Yeah I'll file it back a hair to get the file in.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on October 01, 2015, 11:12:30 pm
    No Matt, I never did run that 025 last weekend, but I did get a couple good looks at it. Worst part about filing the PS, is the really thick, tuff chrome layer. Reckon we oughta remove it first?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 02, 2015, 12:03:01 am
On a Pico chain  if you are going to square file it takes some grinder work before you can even get a multi beveled file on the tooth .That damned stuff is tiny and a real pain to square file .Well quite frankly any chain is a pain in the azz to square file truth be known .

When I did my .325 chain I ground part of the file away so I could fit it in there better. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 02, 2015, 01:06:21 am
Thats smart. Never thought of doing that. O yea I can square file but have to do each tooth in a vise one at a time to get decent results out of it. Im tipping my hand a little to stir the bucket.... ;D I can see the headline now. (Newbie smokes vets in race chain build off) :o
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 02, 2015, 01:10:42 am
Hope I don't ruffle any dresses... ;) im just messing around...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 02, 2015, 05:21:08 am
;D I can see the headline now. (Newbie smokes vets in race chain build off) :o

Thats the spirit us nobodies need !!
Keep chipping away at them ........... get under their skin so they file theirs too sharp !!!  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ChainBuildOff on October 02, 2015, 07:07:40 am
Things that will separate race from work chain IMO.

Race

Thinned cutters
Stoned cutters
Thinned or reshaped small rakers
Tunneling under cutter
Cut off back of cutters heels etc or angled back of cutter
Grinding or polishing work on rivets
Dog boning
Work on top of inner drive link area ( dont know if most of you do or know about this )
Beveled edges


If sure there is more but my mind is tired right now.  If you can add to list please do. 

Just want the work chain to be work chain for the guys doing work.


Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 02, 2015, 08:29:58 am
;D I can see the headline now. (Newbie smokes vets in race chain build off) :o

Thats the spirit us nobodies need !!
Keep chipping away at them ........... get under their skin so they file theirs too sharp !!!  ;D

Lmao...This is going to be fun maybe ill get beginners luck and win for all us round filed work chain people...lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 02, 2015, 09:24:19 am
Filed a full sized 60 dl last night for a 3 cube..
It's so sharp, I'm gonna have to hog tie it, just to keep it from chewing through the box in transit..
(-;
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 02, 2015, 12:14:14 pm
Old socks work to hold them in😃
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 12:23:20 pm
I was given a pair of cut resistant gloves after I cut a finger from tip to knuckle at a poulan gtg. Was nice and have used, but I forget to most time.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 02, 2015, 12:27:31 pm
Grabbed a clapped out loop from outside under the leaf pile.   ;)

ChainBuildOff, me thinks you had better make sure there are some good chain saw gloves on yer paws, and make sure your chain catcher is up to snuff
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 01:14:07 pm
Your work chain is wore out.  I'll trade ya a new loop.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 01:19:57 pm
2011 pic before my stihl dealers could get it.   ;D

PS3  pic

I had PS in 2013 before dealer here too.

This is all mine will look like. No files. Still looking for files like I sold.  :'(

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/200T/chiselchainLP004.jpg)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 01:23:57 pm

I have taken the PS3 and timed a cut then cleaned the gullets and square filed..
I think I knocked 28% off the time IIRC...
I may have to dig up some video.

Good to know
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 01:25:01 pm
Yes, 17% gain on round touch up

Also good to know.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 02, 2015, 01:30:39 pm
Your work chain is wore out.  I'll trade ya a new loop.  ;D

Want me to spin you a couple of loops ???

Lets see ........... from top to bottom;

I have the top 2 going to Florida
Next 2 are going to Kentucky
Next 2 are going to Vermont
Next 2 are going to Tennessee
And the last 2 are heading to SW Missouri

Let me know and I will add you to the list
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 01:31:46 pm
I was thinking of trying to do 3 loops then I remembered I didnt like goofy files chain. Scratch that one.   

Back when I compared goofy and square of atop. Guessing 08-2010 time frame. Stock saw with 8T if I remember.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5RRdaV8K8E&list=TLEBEcm2QHPeQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS1UpLyGiTM&list=TLqGFDW9XYZBM
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 01:34:11 pm
Your work chain is wore out.  I'll trade ya a new loop.  ;D

Want me to spin you a couple of loops ???

Lets see ........... from top to bottom;

I have the top 2 going to Florida
Next 2 are going to Kentucky
Next 2 are going to Vermont
Next 2 are going to Tennessee
And the last 2 are heading to SW Missouri

Let me know and I will add you to the list


Good deal, Thanks for helping folks out. Thats what this site is about. Helping freely and sharing info with others.

I need more PS. I might have to break my last 56dl to have a stock test chain to go with a stock PS3.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 01:49:34 pm
LMAO I had to look at the pic closer. Yeah that should slow him down a bit.

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5237.0;attach=15347;image)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 02, 2015, 01:56:01 pm
LMAO I had to look at the pic closer. Yeah that should slow them down a bit.


 ;D  ;D  ;D

Have to try everything I can to put them boys (Hedgerow and Gatekeeper) chains behind mine !!

Fixxed your post for ya !!!!

I dont have any more PS ............ I have some commitments to attend to first, then I will try getting another roll
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 02:40:57 pm
LMAO I had to look at the pic closer. Yeah that should slow them down a bit.


 ;D  ;D  ;D

Have to try everything I can to put them boys (Hedgerow and Gatekeeper) chains behind mine !!

Fixxed your post for ya !!!!

I dont have any more PS ............ I have some commitments to attend to first, then I will try getting another roll

You buying 25' or 100'
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 02, 2015, 03:12:18 pm
Haha. Yeah that might be a challenge.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 02, 2015, 04:16:40 pm

I have taken the PS3 and timed a cut then cleaned the gullets and square filed..
I think I knocked 28% off the time IIRC...
I may have to dig up some video.

Good to know
I got 11.56 off the roll and 9.54 after square filing.
Boy was my math jacked up.
And that was with a good, stock, 5100.

We're really gonna have to lighten the load using the wee baby echo...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 04:42:51 pm

I have taken the PS3 and timed a cut then cleaned the gullets and square filed..
I think I knocked 28% off the time IIRC...
I may have to dig up some video.

Good to know
I got 11.56 off the roll and 9.54 after square filing.
Boy was my math jacked up.
And that was with a good, stock, 5100.

We're really gonna have to lighten the load using the wee baby echo...

What size and type wood for your times?

I was in the 7's with stock ps3 and  with stock 35cc poulan 6T in 8x8 2 year old dry aspen.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 02, 2015, 04:55:31 pm
Wood was fresh Siberian Elm. ~15" of wood no knots. Used up all of the 60 DL and 16" bar.
Putting a square corner on it cut faster, but also worked the saw noticeably harder.
I actually have the vids.
Not sure I can post them though.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 02, 2015, 05:32:38 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqc9ZmxuDSI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWSLJF_FZVc

Note:
I did not lower the rakers IIRC.
It just bit that much harder.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 05:51:48 pm
Found the vids in the PS3 PS thread here.  ;)

Forgot about them.  :-[ :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 02, 2015, 05:53:26 pm
Found the vids in the PS3 PS thread here.  ;)

Forgot about them.  :-[ :P
Awesome..
Were they the same ones?
Muh mind is foggy as of late.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on October 02, 2015, 06:02:02 pm
PS3 sucks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3-7J44D3Gc
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 06:05:00 pm
PS3 sucks



Same cutter. Should be the same in the cuts except for bore cutting.

Corn around me ready to take in. Summer video I take it.  :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 06:09:49 pm
2.31 on phone stopwatch I am not used to clicking.  Looks like aspen or white pine or cottonwood?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 06:21:32 pm
Now what would be neat to see. Is that chain on a stock OE 346 45cc making the same cuts in same cant. Show the chain and not the saw porting.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 06:30:49 pm
Untouched stock off the reel round chisel full 3/8 2.40s with 45cc woods ported work saw 3/8 7T. If I am clicking this dang phone watch right.

https://youtu.be/a96ULyaz7xU
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 02, 2015, 06:58:51 pm
Hey , mopar. i know how i can pay u back for the loops your hooking me up with. I have a 16" loop of CL 3/8 full , full comp if you want it? Ill send it to you for helping me out with this... ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 02, 2015, 09:39:25 pm
LMAO I had to look at the pic closer. Yeah that should slow them down a bit.


 ;D  ;D  ;D

Have to try everything I can to put them boys (Hedgerow and Gatekeeper) chains behind mine !!

Fixxed your post for ya !!!!

I dont have any more PS ............ I have some commitments to attend to first, then I will try getting another roll

You buying 25' or 100'

100' roll
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 09:43:13 pm
Can you find better then $385 plus shipping  for PS 100' (todays prices) ?  The deals I used to get 2011 ps3  and 2013 ps seem to have disappeared ( $300 shipped 25' at a time $75) .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 02, 2015, 09:48:10 pm
Hey , mopar. i know how i can pay u back for the loops your hooking me up with. I have a 16" loop of CL 3/8 full , full comp if you want it? Ill send it to you for helping me out with this... ;D

Thats a generous offer ch74, but I am good on .375 chain. No need to worry about paying me for anything - just do your best on the chains, youre the only one getting the loops spun with the cutters on the outside, everyone else is getting the drivers on the outside!!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 02, 2015, 09:52:42 pm
Can you find better then $385 plus shipping  for PS 100' (todays prices) ?  The deals I used to get 2011 ps3  and 2013 ps seem to have disappeared ( $300 shipped 25' at a time $75) .

Last few rolls were $325 IIRC, I might be able to order it after New Years, scratch is tough now, would you happen to have the Stihl part number for the 100' roll of PS ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 02, 2015, 09:57:32 pm
Thanks man. Ill send it to u anyway.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 02, 2015, 10:52:02 pm
Can you find better then $385 plus shipping  for PS 100' (todays prices) ?  The deals I used to get 2011 ps3  and 2013 ps seem to have disappeared ( $300 shipped 25' at a time $75) .

Last few rolls were $325 IIRC, I might be able to order it after New Years, scratch is tough now, would you happen to have the Stihl part number for the 100' roll of PS ?

100' - 3617 005 1640

25' - 3617 005 0410

look at last 4 number for DL counts.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 02, 2015, 11:26:11 pm
Lol...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 03, 2015, 07:20:53 am
Thanks man. Ill send it to u anyway.

Thats very generous, but honestly, I dont even have a bar that small in .375
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 03, 2015, 09:14:35 am
 :( ok ok...lol.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 03, 2015, 09:15:33 am
Quick off subject question... Were can i find a cheap but good, or a used chain break and spinner?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 03, 2015, 09:26:15 am
Quick off subject question... Were can i find a cheap but good, or a used chain break and spinner?

Cheap, but I dont know about any good or not. Maybe for limited use like you will do?  Combo http://www.harborfreight.com/chain-saw-chain-breaker-spinner-99835.html

Better  http://www.baileysonline.com/Chainsaw-Chain/Chain-Breakers-Spinners/Chain-Breaker-Spinner-Kits/WoodlandPro-Chain-Breaker-Spinner-Combination.axd

Nice wish I had. But I am a cheap poorboy.  http://www.baileysonline.com/Chainsaw-Chain/Chain-Breakers-Spinners/Chain-Breaker-Spinner-Kits/Oregon-DuraMax-Breaker-Spinner-Combo.axd   
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 03, 2015, 11:57:35 am
Hey , mopar. i know how i can pay u back for the loops your hooking me up with. I have a 16" loop of CL 3/8 full , full comp if you want it? Ill send it to you for helping me out with this... ;D

Thats a generous offer ch74, but I am good on .375 chain. No need to worry about paying me for anything - just do your best on the chains, youre the only one getting the loops spun with the cutters on the outside, everyone else is getting the drivers on the outside!!!

What is the difference in that cutter on the outside, do u have a example?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 03, 2015, 01:45:31 pm
What is the difference in that cutter on the outside, do u have a example?

Sure,
Your new chain is on the bottom, it has the cutters on the outside
The chains that are going out to ALL the others (like the one on top) are brand new and have all 44 drivers and their cutters are absolutely untouched ..............  :-X
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on October 03, 2015, 02:31:45 pm
    Thataway they won't chew through the packaging!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 03, 2015, 03:51:35 pm
Mopar, what is the purpose of that , is there a comparison video anywhere that i can see , to distinguish from outside cutters and normal (stock) cutters?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 03, 2015, 03:53:21 pm
Im to be honest don't see a diffrence. Or maybe im just dumb? ???
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 03, 2015, 04:11:34 pm
 :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on October 03, 2015, 04:14:09 pm
    Well the drivers do fit in the bar groove better than the cutters do! ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on October 03, 2015, 04:55:40 pm
Most of the time it is hard to turn a loop wrong side out or to return it to having the cutters out.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 03, 2015, 05:34:19 pm
Mopar, what is the purpose of that

The SOLE purpose for that is to make sure that Gatekeeper and Hedgerow dont take first and second place (again .....  >:()
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 03, 2015, 05:35:09 pm

Mopar, what is the purpose of that

The SOLE purpose for that is to make sure that Gatekeeper and Hedgerow dont take first and second place (again .....  >:()

Well we might not this time.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 03, 2015, 05:37:46 pm



The SOLE purpose for that is to make sure that Gatekeeper and Hedgerow dont take first and second place (again .....  >:()

Well we might not this time.

You mean that us squirrels can finally get some nuts ?  ;D

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 03, 2015, 06:01:11 pm
Mopar, what is the purpose of that

The SOLE purpose for that is to make sure that Gatekeeper and Hedgerow dont take first and second place (again .....  >:()

When was this one and what was the chain picco also?  Tell me more on this, which gtg etc??
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 03, 2015, 06:55:56 pm

Mopar, what is the purpose of that

The SOLE purpose for that is to make sure that Gatekeeper and Hedgerow dont take first and second place (again .....  >:()

When was this one and what was the chain picco also?  Tell me more on this, which gtg etc??

Hedgerows last year. 562 and then on a 7900. I'll dig up the time sheet.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 03, 2015, 06:57:54 pm
Here's the results.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 03, 2015, 07:04:43 pm
  Bore cut timed? 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 03, 2015, 07:07:32 pm
Stock chain appears 3rd?    :o :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 03, 2015, 07:09:21 pm
Stock chain appears 3rd?    :o :P

Yep. Most went too aggressive and slowed the saw down. Bore cut was just to see if it would.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 03, 2015, 07:11:17 pm
Like in bore cut then up and then down to cut the cookie off.

Nevermind you posted while I was typing. I see now.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 03, 2015, 07:19:54 pm

Like in bore cut then up and then down to cut the cookie off.

Nevermind you posted while I was typing. I see now.

I was digging for info. I thought they ran them again later in pine. Have to find the thread on AS for those results
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on October 03, 2015, 07:40:21 pm
http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/friendly-chain-competition.262137/ 

   Here is the thread, the results of the second run are on page 31. These results were with a 7900 runnin em.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 03, 2015, 07:45:09 pm
Here are the overall results of everything

Round one was 562
Round 2 was 7900
Averaged times of all cuts combined is the bottom

I still stand totally impressed with AWOL in the pine ............. BLEW the friggin doors off everyone elses chains
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 03, 2015, 07:57:27 pm
That's what I was looking for.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 03, 2015, 09:31:27 pm
Here are the overall results of everything

Round one was 562
Round 2 was 7900
Averaged times of all cuts combined is the bottom

I still stand totally impressed with AWOL in the pine ............. BLEW the friggin doors off everyone elses chains

Nice stuff.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 03, 2015, 10:05:57 pm
Hey mopar. I am racking my brain  ??? and i still dont see a diffrence in the pics of the two chains. lol...Can the bumperlinks come off the chain or stay on?
Can someone give the rules to me for work chain. I take it race chain is anything goes for the most part for work chain?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 03, 2015, 10:09:19 pm
Has anyone went to my youtube page and looked around? there is some cuts on there that some people might be impressed by a ameteur doing it. lol... search charles holton
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 03, 2015, 10:23:10 pm
Cut4fun. I looked at your youtube page that ps3 on that poulan ain't no slouch. You were let'in er eat.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 03, 2015, 11:10:15 pm
    Well the drivers do fit in the bar groove better than the cutters do! ;) ;D
Trying everything I can, but you Sir and SF need to throw your chains out the window into the road a few times, at like 70mph so the rest of us have a chance.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 03, 2015, 11:22:03 pm
Hey mopar. I am racking my brain  ??? and i still dont see a diffrence in the pics of the two chains. lol...Can the bumperlinks come off the chain or stay on?
Can someone give the rules to me for work chain. I take it race chain is anything goes for the most part for work chain?
Well - I would be really super impressed if drivers cut better than cutters....... That would be something


As for the rest of your questions, I can really only answer the one about the bumper links. They could be ground down, but Cut4fun would be the one to address the rest of them. Its his race, its his rules
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 04, 2015, 12:30:42 am
I was just wondering about the bumper links cause the 63 don't have them and im sure people would b using them . But ill ask cut4fun
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on October 04, 2015, 12:47:49 am
The biggest problems with the Stihl "3" series bumpers as part of the driver links is that the chain will not bore cut and the "3" chain weighs more than the chains that don't have the bumpers.

We, as chainsaw enthusiasts, do not typically care for the bumpers but we don't throw chains away just because they have them. If the bumpers get in our way, we grind them down.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 04, 2015, 01:02:26 am
After fixing the square chain on the big bar today, I'm squared out...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 04, 2015, 01:36:06 am
I've got some 36" loops if you want them Matt. Might be semi chisel in them as well. Might work better for that 36"
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 04, 2015, 08:31:10 am
I dont care if he cuts the safety bumpers off the PS3 for work chain.  I'm not, as they dont effect anything on this chain like the crap oregon put on their SL chain.
Tree guys said they dont even hurt the bore cutting to bad.

stock untouched ps3

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/200T/chiselchainLP004.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/200T/chiselchainLP001.jpg)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 04, 2015, 08:51:21 am
Mike going to save a couple before they get lost forever.  Copy and paste info

3ci 8x8 poplar   http://competitionsaws.createaforum.com/racechain/3-cube-chain-build-off/120/

Least my 2 POS (nicknames) chains were faster then stock.  C and D   8)  My chains cut4fun  My D chain had less then a hour on it.  No stoning, tunneling or anything. Just a work chain square filed at about the right tooth length.
My C chain was a B-grrrrrrr  drawing blood and a couple of (2) hours of  time trying to fix mistakes. Tried to fix a cutter I tried that was way to aggressive and then took the rakers to low when I got the tooth back to far.  Never did get the cutter back where I wanted it ::)   No stoning, tunneling or anything either.
Mike A
Ron E F G all chains were ground. E had ground rivets. F was Woodland Pro\Carlton chain. I see why no one uses that.... G was tunneled under the cutter.
Winner was Cale bloodontheice H

We made 3 cuts with a stock chain and the times was
stock 3.53 291 312 with a average of 3.18
a 2.60 2.41 2.40=2.47
b 2.50 2.69 2.40=2.53
c 3.00 2.76 2.65=2.80
d 2.28 2.35 2.25=2.29
e 2.56 2.34 2.50=2.46
f 3.50 3.15 3.15=3.26
g 2.38 2.31 2.44=2.37
h 2.18 2.25 2.28=2.23
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 04, 2015, 08:56:55 am
Past Videos for 3ci and open stock 3120 with 9T  here  https://www.youtube.com/user/competitionsaws/videos
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 04, 2015, 09:06:28 am
Stock 3120 unlimited coil 9 tooth sprocket build off chain 2012 winter 10x10 poplar  http://competitionsaws.createaforum.com/racechain/chain-build/165/

stock 60 driver oregon chain bought at the local co-op. the average time for 3 cuts was 2.89. Here is the rest of the chains
Chain A 2.47  2.28 2.40 average 2.38
Chain B 2.50  2.57  2.31             2.48
Chain C 2.94   2.65  2.56             2.71
Chain D 2.53   2.54  2.35            2.47
Chain E  3.03   2.50  2.65            2.72
Chain F   2.72   2.66  2.91            2.76
Chain G   2.71   2.63  2.40            2.58
Chain  H  2.75   3.06  2.81             2.87
Chain I    2.66   2.59  2.47            2.57

Mike A, Ron D, Al C,  Joey or Jody F G,   Kevin me I using ATOP chain.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 04, 2015, 11:13:53 am
Good idea Kevin. I didn't have those saved anywhere.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 04, 2015, 11:58:00 am
Good idea Kevin. I didn't have those saved anywhere.

Thats what threw me off when a stock chain out cut filed chain  :o. Never really seen that happen on a chain build off before.  :P  Some close but not that bad behind stock.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 04, 2015, 12:24:36 pm
I have to say that those 2 stock chains (RS and RSL) were some of the best I ever got off any roll. Seems Stihl made them super sharp, maybe one of the first few batches after they dressed or replaced the grinding wheels in their production machines

I have had rolls that needed sharpening to cut, and then I got those 2 rolls that were phenominal ........... all direct from Stihl

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 04, 2015, 12:35:53 pm
Exactly.  ;D ..Well put mopar. I'm still using the stock 20'' that came on my 590 but it does ok , before i ever used it i filed it my way and it does real good in red oak, yella pine, etc. Live oak is IMO the worst wood to cut , its really dense , Thats just how i have seen it . I know live oak has hurt my sharpening feelings/pride before much like dyno's do to car engine builders....lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 04, 2015, 12:38:02 pm
That ps3 is a pretty chain cut4fun.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 04, 2015, 07:52:45 pm
Still need to seal and wrap them up for storage. But already inside fresh from the mill.   ;)

Thinking I will make sure the better filers chains are put right through the middle of a knot.   :D ;) :D ;D ;D :P

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on October 04, 2015, 08:51:50 pm
+1
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 04, 2015, 09:41:18 pm
Awesomeness. And +1 to vets chains in the knots.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 04, 2015, 09:45:06 pm
Still need to seal and wrap them up for storage. But already inside fresh from the mill.   ;)

Thinking I will make sure the better filers chains are put right through the middle of a knot.   :D ;) :D ;D ;D :P



Nice Kevin.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 04, 2015, 11:08:23 pm

Thinking I will make sure the better filers chains are put right through the middle of a knot.   :D ;) :D ;D ;D :P



LMAO !!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 05, 2015, 12:06:45 am
Lol..
Can't be any worse than the garbage we race in around here...
Bring on the knots..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 05, 2015, 10:46:12 am
I have to say that those 2 stock chains (RS and RSL) were some of the best I ever got off any roll. Seems Stihl made them super sharp, maybe one of the first few batches after they dressed or replaced the grinding wheels in their production machines

I have had rolls that needed sharpening to cut, and then I got those 2 rolls that were phenominal ........... all direct from Stihl



That test was interesting. The first piece of wood we ran in was tough. Material removal wasn't a factor with a 59cc saw pulling the chains.
It just needed to slip through the wood at a reasonable rpm and use the least amount of HP to do the job possible.
No surprise the stock chains did well.
When we added power and pine, that all changed!
The chain I used was a clapped out work chain that had about 1/3 of the tooth left, then just filed. No other work. Just made sure the teeth were all the same.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 05, 2015, 12:11:35 pm
Round 1  with the stock 39cc will be a test it seems for folks.  Heck never know a work chain may beat the race in this one.

I was thinking.

I could mod the K095 mount to use on a K041 and if it will except the 44dl along with 45dl we could have a round 2. Using a stock 60cc small carbed poulan. That way it is still the chain making the show but  more torque for those IF to aggressive filed chains. 

Just have to play it by ear weather time wood etc.  But I can get cants made anytime if other 2 are good.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 05, 2015, 02:44:53 pm
How many rpm is the baby Echo wanting to run in the wood Kevin?
Ballpark guestimate?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 05, 2015, 03:03:01 pm
How many rpm is the baby Echo wanting to run in the wood Kevin?
Ballpark guestimate?

How about I check it with stock chain and see.  Will cut a piece of cant off and make a run through it with tach.  I really have a clue otherwise.

These are from echo specs on 3900.

Operating Speed: 8,000 - 9,500 RPM
             
Idling Speed: 2,700 - 3,200 RPM                   
WOT NO LOAD/ with bar and chain: 13,500 - 14,000 RPM
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 05, 2015, 03:20:50 pm
How many rpm is the baby Echo wanting to run in the wood Kevin?
Ballpark guestimate?

How about I check it with stock chain and see.  Will cut a piece of cant off and make a run through it with tach.  I really have a clue otherwise.

These are from echo specs on 3900.

Operating Speed: 8,000 - 9,500 RPM
             
Idling Speed: 2,700 - 3,200 RPM                   
WOT NO LOAD/ with bar and chain: 13,500 - 14,000 RPM

Thats great !!!
I will see how mine does on my 330EVL ............
I might be the only idiot this side of the Allegheny's with a wee little echo, but I will put her to work !!
Now I need to find me a bar ..............
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 05, 2015, 06:54:08 pm
Remember I said 3900 reminded me of a stihl 025 in the cut with both running .325 chain.  Just a little less torque felt with 3900 like a OE 346 would be compared to a NE 346 for torque.

Cants are all put up with 3 tarps wrapping them.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 05, 2015, 06:58:12 pm
Hmmm just received the echo 4500 45cc with no spark today. After I just sent a saw UPS out. Cant get ahead.  ::)

4500 reminds me of the OE 346 weight and in cut. Pro grade build too and 3rd one I have had.
 If I can get it going just maybe try that one too.  :-\
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 05, 2015, 07:51:27 pm
Remember I said 3900 reminded me of a stihl 025 in the cut with both running .325 chain.  Just a little less torque felt with 3900 like a OE 346 would be compared to a NE 346 for torque.

Cants are all put up with 3 tarps wrapping them.

My wittle 330EVL is ported ........ ;)........ closest I can get to the SIQ (Saw In Question)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 05, 2015, 07:57:19 pm
Remember I said 3900 reminded me of a stihl 025 in the cut with both running .325 chain.  Just a little less torque felt with 3900 like a OE 346 would be compared to a NE 346 for torque.

Cants are all put up with 3 tarps wrapping them.

My wittle 330EVL is ported ........ ;)........ closest I can get to the SIQ (Saw In Question)

I just sold one of those for $5 to get it off my shelf.   Mine was a non-runner so cant say even if ported. http://www.echo-usa.com/tomwin41/Techdata/cs-330evl.pdf

Any video with stock 3/8LP chain?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 05, 2015, 08:03:18 pm
There has been some folks on other sites that said they were in but do know if they have a username here or not. 

Guess we can start a list to give me a idea on wood and cuts etc.

Just copy paste and add you name if you like.

Cut4fun 1 stock PS, 1 stock PS3, might do a round work or 2 filed different ways.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on October 05, 2015, 09:25:09 pm
Just copy paste and add you name if you like.

Cut4fun 1 stock PS, 1 stock PS3, might do a round work or 2 filed different ways
awol   1 PS race chain and one PS work chain
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 05, 2015, 10:38:09 pm
Cut4fun 1 stock PS, 1 stock PS3, might do a round work or 2 filed different ways

awol   1 PS race chain and one PS work chain

Gatekeeper 1 or 2 square
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 06, 2015, 12:16:25 am
I'll do round and chisel PS loops. Be interesting to compare the round vs chisel.


Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 06, 2015, 12:21:09 am
My vote is for low CC saw test only, no sense in running 50cc saws too. Everyone knows the program and should make a chain to suit..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 06, 2015, 07:03:58 am
-Cut4fun;                1 stock PS, 1 stock PS3, might do a round work or 2 filed different ways

-awol;                      1 PS race chain and one PS work chain

-Gatekeeper;            1 or 2 square

-aclarke;             I'll do round and chisel PS loops. Be interesting to compare the round vs chisel.

-Moparmyway;         2 of each (PS and PS3) squared, all work chains. Possibly 1 PS race

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 06, 2015, 07:08:38 am
I just sold one of those for $5 to get it off my shelf.   Mine was a non-runner so cant say even if ported. http://www.echo-usa.com/tomwin41/Techdata/cs-330evl.pdf

Any video with stock 3/8LP chain?

CRAPOLA !!
I would have given you $10 for it !!!!
Video eh ??
Here is one with her blubberin away .......... had to throw off someone with a little sandbagging in hickory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LImYkWMM21U&index=2&list=UUaIrFDb18qyGhiTP24mf8Kg
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 06, 2015, 09:22:17 am
Put me down for a square.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 06, 2015, 09:30:00 am
I agree with Adam..
Purpose built chain for the baby saw.
Purpose:
Make a square cutter that'll out cut the very good stock offering.
On a low HP, stock saw.
May prove to be a difficult task!
Lol..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 06, 2015, 10:07:36 am
Low hp chain is hard for me to get right. The bigger saws can overcome more chips in the kerf and stuff.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 06, 2015, 10:23:39 am
Put me down for a square.

You got 2 chains coming to ya
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 06, 2015, 10:24:30 am
Low hp chain is hard for me to get right. The bigger saws can overcome more chips in the kerf and stuff.

Thats what them rakers are for  ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 06, 2015, 10:26:13 am
I agree with Adam..
Purpose built chain for the baby saw.
Purpose:
Make a square cutter that'll out cut the very good stock offering.
On a low HP, stock saw.
May prove to be a difficult task!
Lol..

Low hp chain is hard for me to get right. The bigger saws can overcome more chips in the kerf and stuff.

Look at what we have here .................

Its the "A" team gettin a little sweaty, nervous, and scared ???   ;D  :D  ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 06, 2015, 11:05:49 am
I agree with Adam..
Purpose built chain for the baby saw.
Purpose:
Make a square cutter that'll out cut the very good stock offering.
On a low HP, stock saw.
May prove to be a difficult task!
Lol..

Low hp chain is hard for me to get right. The bigger saws can overcome more chips in the kerf and stuff.

Look at what we have here .................

Its the "A" team gettin a little sweaty, nervous, and scared ???   ;D  :D  ;)
Excuse me while I whip dis out...[/img]


Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 06, 2015, 11:36:58 am

Excuse me while I whip dis out...[/img]

It aint a chain race untill the Whip Ass is thrown down !!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 06, 2015, 12:05:13 pm
My vote is for low CC saw test only, no sense in running 50cc saws too. Everyone knows the program and should make a chain to suit..

I agree with Adam..
Purpose built chain for the baby saw.
Purpose:
Make a square cutter that'll out cut the very good stock offering.
On a low HP, stock saw.
May prove to be a difficult task!
Lol..

And there is my feeling too. So it is. 39cc was chosen in beginning and we know way ahead what to build for. Heck even dug up stock operating numbers.

Doing it that way will save me a lot of time in the cold. 

1 saw and 3  cuts then averaged ?  Since I have 3 cants.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 06, 2015, 12:11:33 pm
I just sold one of those for $5 to get it off my shelf.   Mine was a non-runner so cant say even if ported. http://www.echo-usa.com/tomwin41/Techdata/cs-330evl.pdf

Any video with stock 3/8LP chain?

CRAPOLA !!
I would have given you $10 for it !!!!
Video eh ??
Here is one with her blubberin away .......... had to throw off someone with a little sandbagging in hickory


 :o  Very Nice work there on the little guy. I wouldnt have believed it.   8)


Reason only $5.  I owed $5 change to a guy on 2 other saws. He sells parts on ebay. I mentioned hey you want that  330evl there for $5 to save me from walking to the house.  ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 06, 2015, 12:13:59 pm
-Cut4fun;                1 stock PS, 1 stock PS3, might do a round work or 2 filed different ways

-awol;                      1 PS race chain and one PS work chain

-Gatekeeper;            1 or 2 square

-aclarke;             I'll do round and chisel PS loops. Be interesting to compare the round vs chisel.

-Moparmyway;         2 of each (PS and PS3) squared, all work chains. Possibly 1 PS race

-Hedgerow;                   square
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 06, 2015, 12:29:57 pm

 :o  Very Nice work there on the little guy. I wouldnt have believed it.   8)


Reason only $5.  I owed $5 change to a guy on 2 other saws. He sells parts on ebay. I mentioned hey you want that  330evl there for $5 to save me from walking to the house.  ;)

Thanks Cut, you should see her with the adjusting screws justa little tighter ............. IIRC, max WOT was 10,000 before porting.
That is a 16" bar on her too - and the tip disappeared in that video.
One day, when I get to a GTG, I want to have a 35cc and under race .......... i bet she would hold her own ! Operator might suck, but the saw does run and I am sure I can dig up a decent chain somewhere  !!

You could have gotten $15 for the little guy .............. not much more, but it would have gotten you enough for a gallon of bar oil !
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 06, 2015, 01:02:26 pm

Excuse me while I whip dis out...[/img]

It aint a chain race untill the Whip Ass is thrown down !!!!  ;D
Yes.. We are now, officially on our way..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 06, 2015, 01:15:29 pm
I wish I hadnt sold my left over square files now. There was 2 in there that most folks dont like but I have good results with. Was just wondering IF it would fit in there to square a chain.  Who would have thunk.

But I keep seeing all this bragging on square filed PS PS3 and I thought well lets just see who owns the roost for a saw size  the chain was intended for.     ;) ;D  Time to put up.  :P

Heck I run full 3/8 on my good running 50cc saws and there is a reason real racers run full 3/8 on their 3ci 4ci racesaws. ;) Some already tested and full 3/8 was on top.   

I only new one guy that ran 325 race chain on a 3ci 50cc woods ported saw at gtg's and IMO the saw didnt have the balls to pull full 3/8 is why.  So 325 was always faster in his testing.  ;D


We have a saying at work.  :P

(http://www.trademarkia.com/logo-images/hewitt/if-youre-scared-say-youre-scared-75830516.jpg)

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 06, 2015, 01:20:18 pm
There that should stir the pot.  ;) ;D


(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/58883158.jpg)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 06, 2015, 01:53:14 pm
I wish I hadnt sold my left over square files now. There was 2 in there that most folks dont like but I have good results with. Was just wondering IF it would fit in there to square a chain.  Who would have thunk.

But I keep seeing all this bragging on square filed PS PS3 and I thought well lets just see who owns the roost for a saw size  the chain was intended for.     ;) ;D  Time to put up.  :P

(http://www.trademarkia.com/logo-images/hewitt/if-youre-scared-say-youre-scared-75830516.jpg)



What brand of file ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 06, 2015, 01:57:13 pm
Who filed the chain in the Echo vid?  Looks like there's only one or two cutters doing the work judging by the wavy grain in the face of the cut!!   Decoy chain so we underestimate the competition?  Hahahahaha. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 06, 2015, 02:12:38 pm
I wish I hadnt sold my left over square files now. There was 2 in there that most folks dont like but I have good results with. Was just wondering IF it would fit in there to square a chain.  Who would have thunk.

But I keep seeing all this bragging on square filed PS PS3 and I thought well lets just see who owns the roost for a saw size  the chain was intended for.     ;) ;D  Time to put up.  :P


What brand of file ?

That 4 sided Vallorbe that local stihl dealer sold before atop sold them with their kits. You good filers hate them but I got pretty decent with them.

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTDGYAOHJ2gR997Q_4cb_8g9hqxX9EV2dYc0MIq3d1kNqg-wh0cNyIgZbk)

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 06, 2015, 02:14:56 pm
I wasnt paying attention to the chain in video. I was just listening to that little motor.

We used to race 40cc under rear handle and 40cc under top handle classes too.  I'd gave anything for this PS PS3 stuff back then. Trying to mod semi was a real treat.  :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 06, 2015, 02:37:48 pm
I wish I hadnt sold my left over square files now. There was 2 in there that most folks dont like but I have good results with. Was just wondering IF it would fit in there to square a chain.  Who would have thunk.

But I keep seeing all this bragging on square filed PS PS3 and I thought well lets just see who owns the roost for a saw size  the chain was intended for.     ;) ;D  Time to put up.  :P


What brand of file ?

That 4 sided Vallorbe that local stihl dealer sold before atop sold them with their kits. You good filers hate them but I got pretty decent with them.

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTDGYAOHJ2gR997Q_4cb_8g9hqxX9EV2dYc0MIq3d1kNqg-wh0cNyIgZbk)



Those are chisel bit files.
Basically = to half of a double bevel.
Call Treemonkey.. I think his shop sells em'.
I know he uses them.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 06, 2015, 03:51:54 pm
Those chisel bit files break the corners off when they get into the drivers on PS, and you loose teeth when you hit that bumper on PS3 when filing steep angles.

6 sided triangular files are too big and you will wear out either one on the drivers if you go anything more than 1/2 way back on the tooth

I am using sandpaper on mine for this race !!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 06, 2015, 03:59:51 pm
Who filed the chain in the Echo vid?  Looks like there's only one or two cutters doing the work judging by the wavy grain in the face of the cut!!   Decoy chain so we underestimate the competition?  Hahahahaha. 

Sandbaggin, subterfuge, distraction, disruption, even deflection are all good in the name of chain ................ BEFORE the race.

We all been schooled by the best at it:

Is it too early for trash talk?
 ;)


That one or two cutter chain sure did eat up that hickory though ................. maybe I should make one of mine double full skip  ;)



fixed  ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 06, 2015, 04:05:24 pm
Those chisel bit files break the corners off when they get into the drivers on PS, and you loose teeth when you hit that bumper on PS3 when filing steep angles.

6 sided triangular files are too big and you will wear out either one on the drivers if you go anything more than 1/2 way back on the tooth

I am using sandpaper on mine for this race !!

Thanks for the heads up.  Round it is.  Since I dont have nothing to prove anymore anyway.   :P       

Those diamond coated square files are pretty and produce a nice finish but they dont make the chain any faster.  ;) :D ;) :D

Now to see what you guys into all this filing now days can produce.   ;D

Good Luck all. Bragging rights for a year or next chain build are at hand.    ;D   
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 06, 2015, 05:43:15 pm
Those chisel bit files break the corners off when they get into the drivers on PS, and you loose teeth when you hit that bumper on PS3 when filing steep angles.

6 sided triangular files are too big and you will wear out either one on the drivers if you go anything more than 1/2 way back on the tooth

I am using sandpaper on mine for this race !!

Thanks for the heads up.  Round it is.  Since I dont have nothing to prove anymore anyway.   :P       

Those diamond coated square files are pretty and produce a nice finish but they dont make the chain any faster.  ;) :D ;) :D

Now to see what you guys into all this filing now days can produce.   ;D

Good Luck all. Bragging rights for a year or next chain build are at hand.    ;D   

(http://)

Braggin rights are they're own reward...

LOL...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 06, 2015, 05:54:40 pm
Funny pic!

Lucked out found a fairly sharp loop of PS that's been floating around in my truck bed for the last year or so... I'll box it up and get it shipped.  Was worried the chain sharpening business might cut into my beer drinking time. Whew!!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 06, 2015, 06:09:47 pm
Funny pic!

Lucked out found a fairly sharp loop of PS that's been floating around in my truck bed for the last year or so... I'll box it up and get it shipped.  Was worried the chain sharpening business might cut into my beer drinking time. Whew!!!

Wow talking about lucky. 

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 06, 2015, 06:15:54 pm
I'm going stock angles of RSL 45 and 45. Nothing gonna touch those if you got a dual port and HD 2 on that echo
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 06, 2015, 06:22:49 pm
Chain what chain. Not even on my mind. Right now I'm just pizzed at myself and a bonehead f-up I think I did on the echo 4500 redo.  Had to walk away.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 06, 2015, 07:10:36 pm
I'm going stock angles of RSL 45 and 45. Nothing gonna touch those if you got a dual port and HD 2 on that echo
Dude ........... you made me have to wipe my screen and blow the food outa my nose with that one !!

_______________________________________________________________


Looks like Cut4fun got scared and is throwing in the white towel on square ............. DANG, just when I was going to send him a new Vallorbe


Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 06, 2015, 07:25:53 pm
OK.. So I'll probably have to remove some material off muh straps, but it's not cause it's a race chain.. I'm in file preservation mode..
And stuff...

(http://)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 06, 2015, 07:41:16 pm
I'm going stock angles of RSL 45 and 45. Nothing gonna touch those if you got a dual port and HD 2 on that echo
Dude ........... you made me have to wipe my screen and blow the food outa my nose with that one !!

_______________________________________________________________


Looks like Cut4fun got scared and is throwing in the white towel on square ............. DANG, just when I was going to send him a new Vallorbe
I figured that would get some laughs.

Yeah those chains are rough on files. Any Stihl chain is really.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 06, 2015, 08:28:35 pm


Looks like Cut4fun got scared and is throwing in the white towel on square ............. DANG, just when I was going to send him a new Vallorbe


Not scared just not going to pay $15 plus shipping for a file I sold for $5.   

You got one like I am talking about?

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 06, 2015, 10:23:33 pm


Looks like Cut4fun got scared and is throwing in the white towel on square ............. DANG, just when I was going to send him a new Vallorbe


Not scared just not going to pay $15 plus shipping for a file I sold for $5.   

You got one like I am talking about?



Errrr ................ no ............. not one  ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 06, 2015, 11:04:22 pm
I got my PS-3 with 44 DL today.

Put me in for 1 square.   Roger/3000FPS.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 07, 2015, 12:38:12 am
Holly chit that's a lot of files. Lol.
Put me down for 2 loops ps3 a work and race chain both ROUND ima see what tricks I might have up my skirt. ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 07, 2015, 07:02:52 am
I got my PS-3 with 44 DL today.

Put me in for 1 square.   Roger/3000FPS.

Thats what we need ............ more square filers !!


Holly chit that's a lot of files. Lol.
Put me down for 2 loops ps3 a work and race chain both ROUND ima see what tricks I might have up my skirt. ;D

No square ??
........................... scared away another one  :-[

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on October 07, 2015, 09:10:28 am
I'm game . 3/8 LP picco ?  Does anyone know Oregon or Carlton equivalent ?  Whats the date of the event?
Ty
Chris
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on October 07, 2015, 09:16:43 am
Stihl PS & PS3 have the largest cutters of any 3/8 LP or Pico chain that I've seen.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 07, 2015, 10:22:24 am
I'm game . 3/8 LP picco ?  Does anyone know Oregon or Carlton equivalent ?  Whats the date of the event?
Ty
Chris

Looking to be  a winter event ............. we have time to file !!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 07, 2015, 10:29:34 am
December I think.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 07, 2015, 10:30:55 am
Deadline to get the chains in is 17 Dec Skip ................ still unsure when the event will be, thats up to Cut4fun
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 07, 2015, 12:09:59 pm
Can you find better then $385 plus shipping  for PS 100' (todays prices) ?  The deals I used to get 2011 ps3  and 2013 ps seem to have disappeared ( $300 shipped 25' at a time $75) .

Last few rolls were $325 IIRC, I might be able to order it after New Years, scratch is tough now, would you happen to have the Stihl part number for the 100' roll of PS ?

100' - 3617 005 1640

25' - 3617 005 0410

look at last 4 number for DL counts.

About the same price $325-$350
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 07, 2015, 12:19:29 pm


Looks like Cut4fun got scared and is throwing in the white towel on square ............. DANG, just when I was going to send him a new Vallorbe


Not scared just not going to pay $15 plus shipping for a file I sold for $5.   

You got one like I am talking about?



Errrr ................ no ............. not one  ;)

Good Lord.   :o :o :o :o

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5237.0;attach=15412;image)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 07, 2015, 12:26:30 pm
2 on right is all I had left of those when I got rid of the rest of these.

The stihl double bevel was one I liked till I couldnt get anymore.  Save edge good for getting stuff in quicker or roughed in for the finish file. That villa wasnt a rebuy file. 

If I was to buy bulk now it would be that bahco file.

I had actually started using square files for raker files to just use them up at the end.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/squarefiles001_zps4c8553f8.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2002envoy/squarefiles002_zpsdf7330e2.jpg)

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 07, 2015, 12:30:42 pm
I'm game . 3/8 LP picco ?  Does anyone know Oregon or Carlton equivalent ?  Whats the date of the event?
Ty
Chris


IMO you really want to use stihl 63PS 63PS3 for this if you are wanting to square file it.  I modded a semi chisel once with square file when this chain wasnt made. Trust me you want the PS PS3. Stihl dealer, Ebay has it too.

Hope to have all chain entered by Dec 17th deadline. 

I have some time off around Christmas time. Depends on family and weather for that. If not could be tested after New years depending on a good weather date. Remember I am in north part of Ohio.  :'(
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 07, 2015, 12:36:54 pm
Can you find better then $385 plus shipping  for PS 100' (todays prices) ?  The deals I used to get 2011 ps3  and 2013 ps seem to have disappeared ( $300 shipped 25' at a time $75) .

Last few rolls were $325 IIRC, I might be able to order it after New Years, scratch is tough now, would you happen to have the Stihl part number for the 100' roll of PS ?

100' - 3617 005 1640

25' - 3617 005 0410

look at last 4 number for DL counts.

About the same price $325-$350

Thanks for checking. I'll just order 25' when I get around to it then.

Pizzer is  I was selling it to cheaper then I can replace it with now. = dingbat  Guess thats what I get for selling what I paid for in 2011 and 2013.

Guys just love this stuff on their 38cc-42cc poulans. They think it has transformed their wild things too.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 07, 2015, 05:37:30 pm
I just ran the 3900 with bar buried in maple. With tach on it I was seeing 8000K to 9400K with stock PS. Set wot about 11.8K

If for some  reason this saw 3900 cant make the call when time comes. I have the 45cc echo 4500 going now for back ups.  Man what a difference in those 2 saws and just 6cc's.

Almost feels unfair to even run that 3/8LP on that 45cc saw  :D, let alone running it on a 50cc.  :P     I was running 325 7T smaller rim on the 4500 though.  ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 07, 2015, 05:58:43 pm
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/2015%20etc/echoo45003900%20002_zpshebtn653.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/2015%20etc/echoo45003900%20002_zpshebtn653.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 07, 2015, 07:51:23 pm
That 7 tooth .325 will lie to ya...
That's what you put on a 20" bar if you're running an 026. Lol..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 07, 2015, 08:30:03 pm
That 7 tooth .325 will lie to ya...
That's what you put on a 20" bar if you're running an 026. Lol..

Yep I think I will put a 3/8 7 on the 4500 and test in the maple too with the LP. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 07, 2015, 10:07:37 pm
Run both saws !!

See who wants out on the bigger cc race ................ if you have the time, make it another weekend after you have run the wee little guy and have posted those results up. You will have all them sharp chains there already

Heck, drop a tree and run them in it for all I care ................ gives me another chance at winning


Anyone have any idea if the Atop will work on PS or PS3 ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 08, 2015, 12:05:38 pm
I dont think it would = atop. But anything is possible.

I dont own one anymore to tell ya for sure or not.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 08, 2015, 01:51:50 pm
Did we ever see the wee little echo with some off the roll PS3 or PS ?

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 08, 2015, 02:09:22 pm
Did we ever see the wee little echo with some off the roll PS3 or PS ?



I wrapped the cants already. 

Was cutting in some maple rounds yesterday with it.  The PS (on 3900)  felt better then my 33LG I was using on other saw. But I havent paid attention how sharp that chain was. I was just getting the 4500 saw running.

The CD cam I will have to have wife show me how to use it. My old cam I used that was  old school died.   Sort of at a loss on this new stuff.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 08, 2015, 02:36:25 pm
No time like the present to learn. 1st of 3 batts charging. Then to learn to record straight to the mini dvd. 

Wife recorded every football game my son played from youth through high school with it.  Set low setting to get all of the game. Also quicker to upload that way.

We get a kick out of this. This is what a 3 year varsity lineman looks like running the ball after picking up a fumble. He used to play fullback in Jr high some. 

https://youtu.be/oTS5dCAc-wU

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 08, 2015, 02:59:48 pm
Some of the locals are high on the Vegas bet sheets for a good finish.   8)

then you got the long shot   :P

Work and race all ran together but will be marked as work or race so 2 different winners of class chains.


Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 08, 2015, 04:00:10 pm
Some of the locals are high on the Vegas bet sheets for a good finish.   8)

then you got the long shot   :P
When youre addressing that tall guy from Missouri, just call him Hedge  ;D



Work and race all ran together but will be marked as work or race so 2 different winners of class chains.

Cant wait !!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 08, 2015, 05:33:04 pm
@Moparmyway you realize your relying on my old brain to put his chain on the right way and not backwards. ;)   

Oh that $20  you sent should cover that backwards run just fine.   ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 08, 2015, 07:02:44 pm
@Moparmyway you realize your relying on my old brain to put his chain on the right way and not backwards. ;)   

Oh that $20  you sent should cover that backwards run just fine.   ;D

We are all getting old Cut, ............ it was $40, your memory is fading faster than you realize  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 08, 2015, 08:51:09 pm
I cant wait im starting to get excited.  ;D :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 08, 2015, 09:23:27 pm
Y'all ran a chainsaw with the chain backwards? I would imagine it would put all the wood chips back together ..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 08, 2015, 09:25:02 pm
 :o
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 08, 2015, 10:43:20 pm
Y'all ran a chainsaw with the chain backwards? I would imagine it would put all the wood chips back together ..

Well not quite.   But it sure plays heck with the drivers.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 08, 2015, 11:44:50 pm
I bet it bucked around like a big girl on prom night.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 08, 2015, 11:47:06 pm
Was it real grabby cause the no raker thing? Sounds kinda dangerous. Me likey  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 09, 2015, 12:29:10 am
It vibrates real bad or so I've been told😉
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 09, 2015, 01:13:02 am
That's what I was thinking. It wouldnt b pretty.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 09, 2015, 06:59:42 am
Y'all ran a chainsaw with the chain backwards? I would imagine it would put all the wood chips back together ..

You been sniffin the Jet A again ?  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 09, 2015, 08:23:54 am
No not latley. Just the M.E.K. Lol... ;D just joshin around , Is there a vid of the chain backwards thing?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 09, 2015, 11:02:30 am
If there was, nobody would cop to it..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 09, 2015, 12:59:43 pm
You  all made me wonder if there was such a video out there.    ;D :P

https://youtu.be/8RpfttAQzW4
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 09, 2015, 01:03:20 pm
Yep it was LOL

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 09, 2015, 01:29:31 pm
No time like the present to learn. 1st of 3 batts charging. Then to learn to record straight to the mini dvd. 

Wife recorded every football game my son played from youth through high school with it.  Set low setting to get all of the game. Also quicker to upload that way.

We get a kick out of this. This is what a 3 year varsity lineman looks like running the ball after picking up a fumble. He used to play fullback in Jr high some. 

https://youtu.be/oTS5dCAc-wU



You know what was more impressive than the fumble recovery?
He held that block for damn near a 4 count!
We could use about 5 of him tonight!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 09, 2015, 01:33:17 pm
You  all made me wonder if there was such a video out there.    ;D :P

https://youtu.be/8RpfttAQzW4

I stand corrected...
Someone really is "that guy"...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 09, 2015, 01:45:25 pm
No time like the present to learn. 1st of 3 batts charging. Then to learn to record straight to the mini dvd. 

Wife recorded every football game my son played from youth through high school with it.  Set low setting to get all of the game. Also quicker to upload that way.

We get a kick out of this. This is what a 3 year varsity lineman looks like running the ball after picking up a fumble. He used to play fullback in Jr high some. 

https://youtu.be/oTS5dCAc-wU



You know what was more impressive than the fumble recovery?
He held that block for damn near a 4 count!
We could use about 5 of him tonight!!


I had to watch again.

You know I never paid attention to that part and that he had drove that d-lineman that far down the field. Reason for him being there when ball popped out forward. Thanks for bringing that up.

His sophomore year they used him as a pulling lineman to lead block for our RB.  That RB now starts at a D2 college as RB.

One time he couldnt take his helmet off from 2nd quarter through halftime till end of game. He took a hit on the chin on a lead block that got them a TD and needed stitches. They packed the chin strap full of gauze.
They came up in the stands and told me whats up and ask me IF he could still play. I told them his call.  He played.

After game we took him to ER room to get stitched up. Has a nice scar to remember the 2 point loss by. We didnt have a kicker back then that could make x-points let alone a field goal so we had to go for 2 on everything.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 09, 2015, 01:49:21 pm
Kid he lead blocked for as a lineman. 21 starts d2 RB now.

https://youtu.be/2FBqavSMUh8
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 09, 2015, 01:59:46 pm
Hedge so were you a Texan or Indy fan last night?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 09, 2015, 02:01:46 pm
Football thread http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/rec-room/high-school-football/
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 09, 2015, 02:14:27 pm
Hedge so were you a Texan or Indy fan last night?
The boy is a JJ Watt fan..
So I guess Texans...

But honestly I just like to watch the little match ups that happen in a game.

I loved watching a 40 year old QB bring his A game for the Colts.. That's for sure..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 09, 2015, 02:24:23 pm
Hedge so were you a Texan or Indy fan last night?
The boy is a JJ Watt fan..
So I guess Texans...

But honestly I just like to watch the little match ups that happen in a game.

I loved watching a 40 year old QB bring his A game for the Colts.. That's for sure..


Yep JJ is something to watch.  Really thought Clowney would be more then he has been too, to help out. 

My wife was yelling that she wants her Browns to play the Texans watching the game.  LOL   Got to feel sorry for that bunch too. I went through that for 12 years straight with my Bengals, also known as Bungals. 

They said Hasselback was on his death bed sick right up to the game.   Weird how folks can step up when they are that sick.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 09, 2015, 03:16:50 pm
3 batts charged. Had wife set up to low setting and get ready so I can try and film the 3900 with used PS I had on the 340T and then maybe the 4500 with the 70dl PS3.  Might need to mod the bar for use on 4500.  :-\

Working OT so will try to fit in when I can. Maybe Sat evening or Sunday.  8)

I need to learn the cam though so I need to do this.   :P

See if I got a round stick the small bar will just clear. The piece I have on there now I have to make 2nd cut to take cookie off on other side.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 09, 2015, 05:33:41 pm
That 20" LP picco set fit perfect on the 4500 with 3/8 7T 70dl. No modding of bar mount. Got to be a first for me.

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Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 09, 2015, 08:34:37 pm
Nice echo. Im starting to become a echo fan. Have you seen the cs600p ported with a good chain on it...Bring on a autotune husky IMO i think the echo would dominate it , for half the price.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 09, 2015, 08:35:41 pm
The video pretty much summed it up. DON"T put your CHAIN on BaCkWaRdS.  :o
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 09, 2015, 08:51:45 pm
You fellers (pun intended) got time to watch football ??

Not me, work, work, work .................................. :(
Family time has the rest of my awake hours ................. only get about 4-5 hrs/night these days !
Have to get back on some chains !!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 09, 2015, 09:06:14 pm
You fellers (pun intended) got time to watch football ??

Not me, work, work, work .................................. :(
Family time has the rest of my awake hours ................. only get about 4-5 hrs/night these days !
Have to get back on some chains !!

5 is my avg sleep I shoot for, sometimes 4 like you say, 7 days a week.

Football is part of my family time too. My wife and son are ate up with it. College, NFL etc.  To cool having a sports type family.  BIG grin for me  ;D

Chains LOL I'll give one a hours worth someday. ;) Thanks man.  :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 09, 2015, 09:47:15 pm
I have 4 kids so I feel ya fellas. That's y I mess with the chain on break at work. Well going to start next week anyway. Boss was pushing to get a plane out by friday, so next week it is..
Football. Im more of a motocross , trophy truck, drag racing kinda sport watcher.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 09, 2015, 09:53:46 pm
Any pics of a pp330 I like those old poulans like that.
Who made the pp330 for poulan? Husky?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on October 09, 2015, 10:41:04 pm
Looks like a regular Poulan to me?

https://www.google.com/search?q=poulan+pro+330&biw=1366&bih=653&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAgQ_AUoA2oVChMI8dfDlPC2yAIVRBk-Ch2ESw4k
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 09, 2015, 11:59:57 pm
Another win tonight.. 7-0 so far.
52-20...
JV finished the last quarter, and ran clock out on the 3 yard line.
Coach didn't want to rub it in.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 10, 2015, 12:20:14 am
General aviation planes?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 10, 2015, 02:22:18 am
Yes sir, General aviation planes. I do maintenance for a flight school, and also perform maintenance for a freinds company when he gets work in.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 10, 2015, 09:58:33 am
Any pics of a pp330 I like those old poulans like that.
Who made the pp330 for poulan? Husky?

Poulan made the 330.  Not Husky. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 10, 2015, 11:41:54 am

Football. Im more of a motocross , trophy truck, drag racing kinda sport watcher.

Into all of that, I think. Dont know what trophy truck is.  Tried dirt bikes when younger, wasnt any good on MX stuff but loved hair scrambles, enduro type stuff.  Love dirt track racing = thread on racing too. Used to bracket race for fun, just like real events chainsaw racing I tried for fun. Still like to watch STS and other real events.
I guess you could say I and we are junkies to  watch everything to do with sports.  In person and on TV. ;)

Oh got back into fishing with son and wife this year too.  ;D Thread on fish deer coyotes etc too.

Seems we all have blessed lives  8)   Living the dream.  :D :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 10, 2015, 11:43:00 am
PP330 great 54cc saws IMO and take a 60cc top also.

Sweden made crankshafts in them.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 10, 2015, 11:45:28 am
Any pics of a pp330 I like those old poulans like that.


Top search, put poulan 330.

Link to a thread http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/poulan/poulan-pro-330-and-poulan-3450/


(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP325/PP330001.jpg)

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 10, 2015, 11:48:08 am
ch74 if into that series look for 330 3450 54cc, 380 3750 60cc. Smaller carb intake 60cc 365 3.7 3500. smaller carb intake and over all size smaller 54cc plain bore 3300, chrome bore 335.

Threads on all of them in poulan board.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 10, 2015, 04:18:55 pm
Yes sir, love those poulans there just bulls. I wish poulan made poulan still those years were nice.
Fishing yes sir I love red fishing , bass ,shark.etcc. I live on the water here in fl, its a bayou that goes out to the bay and goes out to the gulf. Love fl its awesome down here. I was raised and grew up in Michigan I miss it up north sometimes.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 10, 2015, 04:20:18 pm
Thanks for the info on those model year poulans. When I get some extra cash ill pick me up one and go through it all and zero time it.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 10, 2015, 04:41:39 pm
fing sony cam got me jumping through hoops right now.

Made 2 videos 3900 4500 PS PS3 in good hard stick. Can watch videos off disc. but wont save to HD so I can save to utube.  So right now digging looking for software, then having to install and making me hook cam to puter to do something. Good lord. Might have to find another way for videos if I smash this thing.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 10, 2015, 05:55:43 pm
Had to load a bunch of sony software. Never again will I buy sony  >:(.  Loading to youtube finally.

Can see where the new chain on the 4500 got loose and almost lost it on 1st cookie drop when it hit  chain. The went ahead and made 2nd cut and you can see chain out of groove on top of bar. Yep she got real loose.   ;D

Need beer.  :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on October 10, 2015, 06:03:01 pm
I hate Sony for their proprietary software requirement.

Even Apple and their "I" tunes is not that bad.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 10, 2015, 06:05:00 pm
Yep  Jim I want to smash it now. LOL


Just so you all know.  Going to try and make a video with my other camera on video mode. Will do the 6700 and 415 using same chain in same wood. 
Same wood I just shot the echo 4500 3900 with the ps ps3 chain.

I didnt care for the sony cam I just used with all the software I had to load on puter to use. Just want to see if this fuji will be easier on my brain to do.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 10, 2015, 06:05:24 pm
https://youtu.be/lIAradeXX3s
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 10, 2015, 06:23:56 pm
That was a pretty hard stick too. The pine cant should be fun.

https://youtu.be/S25Q4NYYLo8
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on October 10, 2015, 06:33:03 pm
That loose chain is scary
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 10, 2015, 06:34:25 pm
LOL wife is pizzed at me. Had here helping with the sony cam stuff and she is like now you dont want to use it. Just so over my pee brain with sony software.

If you cant tell I'm not in this century with technology know how.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 10, 2015, 06:37:13 pm
That loose chain is scary

Yep but ran hotsaws with tight tight tight chains and were more out of the groove then that when watched the runs. 
I knew the risk. ;)  I shouldnt have but I was lazy and did so knowing better.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 10, 2015, 08:21:54 pm
That look pretty good. The orange echo sounded good.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 10, 2015, 09:48:30 pm
That loose chain is scary

Certainly is ................ you can see daylight on top and bottom between chain and bar
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on October 10, 2015, 10:03:35 pm
picked up a chain, told him 44 link ps or ps3.......drive home and take a closer look......61PMM3. 

got some practice in anyhow.  photo good for a laugh.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 10, 2015, 10:56:28 pm
I wish I could find that hotsaw chain out of the bar groove all the way around.  It was on video way back but cant recall where.   :o

If I worried about such things I wouldnt have ever raced anything in life.  ;) Scared say your scared.  ;D

You guys got to understand I knew the new chain got loose after first cut and cookie hit the chain.  I figured 1 more cut I was good to go and watched how I put it through the cut.   :P

Now if it had been ported speedster  :D :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 10, 2015, 10:57:20 pm
picked up a chain, told him 44 link ps or ps3.......drive home and take a closer look......61PMM3. 

got some practice in anyhow.  photo good for a laugh.

Did a stihl dealer send you home with the wrong chain?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 10, 2015, 10:59:13 pm
Ole racer  threw a good idea for a picco racechain. But not something I would do with such a small chain. 
Wont say anything right now just in case someone is thinking this.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 10, 2015, 11:06:17 pm
1man, I wouldn't be to happy about that.
Cut4, I seen worse loose chains, and beside that im not running it. Lol. Im not one to point out saftey stuff, were all grown and know what is what.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 11, 2015, 12:10:29 am
Joe, I'll spin some loops of chains monday, shoot me your addess
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on October 11, 2015, 12:28:41 am
I'll get on it in a couple of weeks in spite of the 7/12 deal I've  been on for two years .Gotta find a 12" bar for one of the Stihl  200t's first .

I've got two 12 inch bars but they're 043 thou .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on October 11, 2015, 09:00:25 am
thirteen bucks for the chain.... 1 hour to set up jig for holding chain in a small radius, 1 hour to trim the safety links, 30 minutes to lighten chain in rivet area, about 20 minutes to square and narrow teeth, another 20 to cut/grind the backside of the tooth.  found some files that fit in to put an edge on the teeth, but saved this for last, and remains undone.

......not sure what its supposed to look like.  y'all are secretive and stuff.

if i only could have remembered where i put the hardened valve spring shims.... lol. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 11, 2015, 09:54:07 am

......not sure what its supposed to look like.  y'all are secretive and stuff.



No secrets here, need to be able to file before you have secrets  :D . I just dont want to say anything IF someone is doing what I was told. I highly doubt anyone is though. ;)

I cant find the small 3ci chain I was looking for. Completely polished smoothed down.

Pics I grabbed straight off the internet so take them for what they are worth.  NOT LP chain.

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h241/redprospector/Chain006cropped-1.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/racechains008.jpg)

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on October 11, 2015, 11:37:44 am
thanks for the photos cut4.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 11, 2015, 11:45:48 am
thanks for the photos cut4.

I think this is the 3ci chain while Cale was working on it still. This one won the 3ci build off.

Per Cale bloodontheice Took a couple hours this evening to start work on my chain
As you can see it started off as regular LGX Oregon chain, was
going use the Stihl, but this took alot less work.

This was all done with one of those goofy files, round files and a regular Oregon chain grinder

I have half of the cutters filed, tunneled and the backs of the teeth cut off, the rakers and chassis will need
some more cleaning up, and the teeth will need to be back dressed.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/CaleSigas/033.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/CaleSigas/030.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/CaleSigas/028-1.jpg)

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 11, 2015, 11:47:52 am
Thanks Cut4
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 11, 2015, 11:48:34 am
thanks for the photos cut4.

More from Cale's 3ci build.

Cale = I've got mine 95% done just need to set the raker height, and
touch it up hear and there.

I back dressed it today after I took this picture.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/CaleSigas/101_2784.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/CaleSigas/101_3032.jpg)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 11, 2015, 11:55:48 am
I will nickname my chains just like in the 3 cube build. POS #1 and POS #2. Just hope I dont have to add bloody to any of them like I did to bloody pos #1.  ::)

That was the only chain I thought would have been slower then stock in my life. I was betting on it. But it wasnt. POS chain for sure. Heck wasnt even last.

I will reserve this for me in the work chain class.  ;D

(http://competitionsaws.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46.0;attach=70;image)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 11, 2015, 11:58:50 am
Dang just noticed there was 1 chain there that was slower then stock. Never caught that before.


Steve = We made 3 cuts with a stock chain and the times was 3.53 291 312 with a average of 3.18
a 2.60 2.41 2.40=2.47
b 2.50 2.69 2.40=2.53
c 3.00 2.76 2.65=2.80    POS #1 I thought would have been slower then stock. That chain was fubarred.
d2.28 2.35 2.25=2.29      POS #2

e 2.56 2.34 2.50=2.46
f 3.50 3.15 3.15=3.26
g2.38 2.31 2.44=2.37
h 2.18 2.25 2.28=2.23
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 11, 2015, 06:22:23 pm
I ran 3 saws with my other camera to see if it would be easier to do videos and had sound.

 12" wide 12.5" high ash log. After seeing the 6700 3800 going through the log it makes me impressed with the echo 39cc 45cc with the ps ps3 chain in same wood yesterday. 

Oh stock 415  ;). Man I wish I could have compared to that stock solo 665.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 11, 2015, 07:28:53 pm
That one picture is Andy Redprospector chain he posted many years ago.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 11, 2015, 07:32:58 pm
That one picture is Andy Redprospector chain he posted many years ago.

Yep I just didnt want to say anything.

The other I cant remember where I got it but it was a culled out chain that got ran at gtg's only.  Didnt make my racechain cut for real races.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 11, 2015, 07:54:16 pm
Same stick I ran the PS PS3 in.

Here is 3 today I ran new LGX on to compare. Going to throw the PS3 vid in there because I swear the 4500 with PS3 may have out cut the 6700 with LGX. Cant count 3900 because I couldnt cut all the way through.

https://youtu.be/vHm7aHP67po
https://youtu.be/Kx2U5HAIfeQ
https://youtu.be/5TIMNNv5BEQ
https://youtu.be/S25Q4NYYLo8

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 11, 2015, 09:56:37 pm
Nice comparison vids. That's good. I think the ps3 hung with the others. Top two r the winners. Thats just my observations.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 12, 2015, 02:18:23 am
That one picture is Andy Redprospector chain he posted many years ago.

Yep I just didnt want to say anything.

The other I cant remember where I got it but it was a culled out chain that got ran at gtg's only.  Didnt make my racechain cut for real races.
I have that picture saved on my Pc at home.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 12, 2015, 12:30:16 pm
I have puked 2 files on this chain already.
Trying to file these teeth back shorter is proving to be a pain.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 12, 2015, 01:38:01 pm
I have puked 2 files on this chain already.
Trying to file these teeth back shorter is proving to be a pain.

Like I said I'll grind them back for ya and send back.    ;D

Nothing like trying to make a favored  horse alittle lame before a race. ;)  :P 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 12, 2015, 02:13:31 pm
I got 3 teeth that the file slips right across and won't bite as it is..
Not sure what I'm going to do with those.
I'll figure something out.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on October 12, 2015, 02:54:50 pm
Heat them up to real dull red with a torch and back the torch away slowly to let them cool slowly to anneal them.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 12, 2015, 07:35:00 pm
Annealing cutters is race territory !!!  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 12, 2015, 07:36:17 pm
I have puked 2 files on this chain already.
Trying to file these teeth back shorter is proving to be a pain.

I got 3 teeth that the file slips right across and won't bite as it is..
Not sure what I'm going to do with those.
I'll figure something out.

Thats why i aint doing a race chain ............. work only.
This PS / PS3 just eats up files
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 12, 2015, 07:48:09 pm
I have puked 2 files on this chain already.
Trying to file these teeth back shorter is proving to be a pain.

I got 3 teeth that the file slips right across and won't bite as it is..
Not sure what I'm going to do with those.
I'll figure something out.

Thats why i aint doing a race chain ............. work only.
This PS / PS3 just eats up files
The tie straps are taking a beating too..
Kevin better wear his chaps!!!
lol..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 12, 2015, 09:11:51 pm

The tie straps are taking a beating too..
Kevin better wear his chaps!!!
lol..

And gloves ........ padded with kevlar !
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 12, 2015, 09:37:54 pm
Lol. Im going to send him, 12" loop of rope with staples in it to smoke all of y'alls chains.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 12, 2015, 11:29:10 pm
These save edge files I got suck.
Just touched up one of the good LGX chains I got for timberfest, and the file was almost spent by the time I was done..
No excuse for such garbage.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 13, 2015, 12:13:16 am
Believe it or not I get mine from lowes and still on my first file for my 69Dl chain on the 450, dont worry I haven't forgotten y'all ill make a vid of my 450 with the new setup to lowpro.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 13, 2015, 08:36:26 am
Whatever file I use on the PS/PS3 is considered cannon fodder, new, used, whatever manufacturer, its junk.

Hedge, was it a new and unused file that you blew through with the Oregon chain ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 13, 2015, 08:41:05 am
Believe it or not I get mine from lowes and still on my first file for my 69Dl chain on the 450, dont worry I haven't forgotten y'all ill make a vid of my 450 with the new setup to lowpro.

Round files dont bite into the driver like square does.

Have you been getting square files from Lowes ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 13, 2015, 12:37:58 pm
The files I have are some Stihl triangle files.   They are ok but nothing to brag about.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 13, 2015, 01:08:15 pm
Whatever file I use on the PS/PS3 is considered cannon fodder, new, used, whatever manufacturer, its junk.

Hedge, was it a new and unused file that you blew through with the Oregon chain ?

Yup.. just pulled it out of the sleeve.
I wonder if it is possible to have gotten a batch of soft files..?
They too expensive to be a pig in a poke..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 13, 2015, 01:28:44 pm
Yeah, that aint right !

Save Edge has been good for me, but I havent used any of the newer ones that I just got.
I will grab a new one tonight and give her a good workout tomorrow on a .404 RS loop to see if mine suck too
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 13, 2015, 01:39:19 pm
I quit buying from save edge when they stop shipping directly to me.  They wanted me to use a middle man under their new selling policy back when. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 13, 2015, 01:44:03 pm

The tie straps are taking a beating too..
Kevin better wear his chaps!!!
lol..

And gloves ........ padded with kevlar !

No problem. ;) 

Cliff Helsel used to keep my hotsaw chain ready.  Chain was filed by him and touch ups by him.   ;D

Now a bowsaw racing blade used to cut my fingers and hands up, installing and taking off (mine was a retired racing blade = not fast enough ) .   :-X  I gave that up quick, I was horrible no technique and to get a top blade was big money.

Now aclarke has that down pat from what I saw the 1 time I seen him make a cut.  :o ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 13, 2015, 03:52:07 pm
Mopar , Im round filing on my ps chain a little for practice with round file. Ill square file my work chain im going to send in, I have two save edge files left from my mental days when I wanted everything square filed.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 13, 2015, 05:39:10 pm
Mopar , Im round filing on my ps chain a little for practice with round file. Ill square file my work chain im going to send in, I have two save edge files left from my mental days when I wanted everything square filed.  ;D

Well, count me as mental all the time then ............. cause I even tried square filing RM  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 13, 2015, 05:57:11 pm
Mopar , Im round filing on my ps chain a little for practice with round file. Ill square file my work chain im going to send in, I have two save edge files left from my mental days when I wanted everything square filed.  ;D

Well, count me as mental all the time then ............. cause I even tried square filing RM  ;D

I did that with semi 3/8LP  before PS3 PS came out.   :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 13, 2015, 07:20:12 pm
Did you notice any better cut times with semi squared ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 13, 2015, 07:30:17 pm
Semi-squared....love it...lol...I have never cleaned out gullets untill this 69dl loop for the echo and i put a really big hook in it, and Wammo...First, time i have ever had a chain self feed this fast and smooth as silk. It is by far the fastest chain i have ever ran. Im still trying to figure out my phone so i can get a pic of it but these 4 kids there is always something... ???
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 13, 2015, 08:18:16 pm
Did you notice any better cut times with semi squared ?

Shaved 6 seconds off a long cut back in the day.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 13, 2015, 09:05:12 pm
Did you notice any better cut times with semi squared ?

Shaved 6 seconds off a long cut back in the day.
Yeah, mine was faster, but not worth the file to get it done ...... I can file round RM and have it be just about as fast

but these 4 kids there is always something... ???

Welp ............. thats another thing we have in common.

My oldest is 13, youngest is 1
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 14, 2015, 12:18:51 am
I had pferd files do that brand new.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 14, 2015, 12:21:00 am
I had pferd files do that brand new.
That's depressing.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 14, 2015, 12:24:24 am
So far..

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5237.0;attach=15483;image)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 14, 2015, 08:14:30 am
but these 4 kids there is always something... ???

Welp ............. thats another thing we have in common.

My oldest is 13, youngest is 1
[/quote]

My oldest is 15 youngest is 13mths. 9 years between my youngest and the toddler...lol.. The doc said were could never have anymore after my son was born now we have another.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 14, 2015, 08:16:02 am
It's a beutiful thing when you see a little tooth like that square filed...Damn she is pretty....Nice work hedgerow.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 14, 2015, 09:23:03 am

My oldest is 15 youngest is 13mths. 9 years between my youngest and the toddler...lol.. The doc said were could never have anymore after my son was born now we have another.
7 years between the third and the 1 year old here .............. very similar details - we werent supposed to have any more after #3 either.

Put the guarantee stamp on no more though ........... 4 is expensive enough
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2015, 12:46:57 pm
So far..

(http://)

Pretty. Any test runs to how it cuts?   8) 

Now the question is will it hold that edge from the brick test before the timed cuts.  :D :P 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 14, 2015, 01:29:45 pm
So far..

(http://)

Pretty. Any test runs to how it cuts?   8) 

Now the question is will it hold that edge from the brick test before the timed cuts.  :D :P 
You promised me rebar and concrete for his chains. $40 is $40  ;D


___________________________________________

Dang ............ have to resize everything to post it

Any chance of getting max size above 337kB ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 14, 2015, 02:06:23 pm
So far..

(http://)

Pretty. Any test runs to how it cuts?   8) 

Now the question is will it hold that edge from the brick test before the timed cuts.  :D :P 


Nope.. Seems muh 12" homelite bar takes more drivers than whatever it is you're running..
Closest thing I got is the little 33cc ez
But it has a big heart.. I'll figure something out..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 14, 2015, 02:09:58 pm
So far..

(http://)

Pretty. Any test runs to how it cuts?   8) 

Now the question is will it hold that edge from the brick test before the timed cuts.  :D :P 
You promised me rebar and concrete for his chains. $40 is $40  ;D


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Dang ............ have to resize everything to post it

Any chance of getting max size above 337kB ?

Lol..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on October 14, 2015, 02:20:13 pm
I just put the big pictures in Photobucket and then link them to my Chainsaw Repair post. They are automatically resized if you use the normal paths.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2015, 03:04:24 pm
So far..

(http://)

Pretty. Any test runs to how it cuts?   8) 

Now the question is will it hold that edge from the brick test before the timed cuts.  :D :P 
You promised me rebar and concrete for his chains. $40 is $40  ;D


___________________________________________

Dang ............ have to resize everything to post it

Any chance of getting max size above 337kB ?

Went to 399KB.

The way this site works is I pay for all space used. Not paid ahead of time like other sites.  So I keep pics smaller and why I say its best to host pics from a outside host.   Just dont want those monster 2MB etc pics like taken now days eating up all the space purchased for 1 pic.

Worded that wrong. I buy space in chunks.  Nate username Nathaniel Vansickle  bought us a enough I think to get through the year last time.  Thanks again.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2015, 03:08:02 pm
Prettttty  too.   8)

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5237.0;attach=15487;image)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 14, 2015, 03:23:34 pm
Kev, let us know before storage space gets low, I'd like to contribute as will others...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2015, 03:25:24 pm
I just hope my chain will be so ugly we will all laugh at it but will cut in the top 50.   :-[

I had some super nice looking chains back in the day that cost gooooood money (for real racing events). But when tested couldnt cut for chit and went on the CULLED gtg chain gang.    :-X
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2015, 03:28:28 pm
Kev, let us know before storage space gets low, I'd like to contribute as will others...

Havent even checked it lately. Guess I need to do that. 

Thanks for the offer though. 

 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2015, 03:30:39 pm
Whatever all this means is what we still got Adam.

We have used.  Total Size of Attachment Directory:    1456696.19 kB

This is what we have left.  Total Space Available in Attachment Directory:    703943.81 kB

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on October 14, 2015, 05:06:10 pm
Whatever all this means is what we still got Adam.

We have used.  Total Size of Attachment Directory:    1456696.19 kB

This is what we have left.  Total Space Available in Attachment Directory:    703943.81 kB

if the kB means kilobytes?

to get amount of potential photos you have left......

divide the amount left by the maximum photo size you allow to post up.

703943.81 divided by 339 = 2076 more photos that can be posted up.  that is about 1 music cd worth.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on October 14, 2015, 05:10:39 pm
maybe this unit converter program will help.  i'm not a computer guy, but this is (free) one that some folks use at work.

https://joshmadison.com/convert-for-windows/

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2015, 06:07:41 pm
Whatever all this means is what we still got Adam.

We have used.  Total Size of Attachment Directory:    1456696.19 kB

This is what we have left.  Total Space Available in Attachment Directory:    703943.81 kB

if the kB means kilobytes?

to get amount of potential photos you have left......

divide the amount left by the maximum photo size you allow to post up.

703943.81 divided by 339 = 2076 more photos that can be posted up.  that is about 1 music cd worth.

Thanks  for info. I moved it up to 399kb.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 14, 2015, 07:47:32 pm
Thanks Cut4fun !
 I wasnt aware of how the billing happened, I understand fully why the limit is 399.
Thanks for the easy explanation ........... makes sense !!

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2015, 08:10:15 pm
Thanks Cut4fun !
 I wasnt aware of how the billing happened, I understand fully why the limit is 399.
Thanks for the easy explanation ........... makes sense !!



Yeah they say free site. Free to start up and make. But pay as you go and use space and add ons etc.

They even offer the sponsor bill boards etc like the money making sites do. I just refuse to do that and paste that crap every where blinking at us to make money off the site.
I just feel we are all sponsors and can tell folks where to buy without all the cant say unless a sponsor crap like elsewhere.  I just hate that BS there.
 I even paid to keep the 1 ad away at top.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 14, 2015, 08:30:16 pm
Cut4, i can chip in some.

Mopar, kids are really expensive, if they weren't i would have 9 kids and a Husky 372 built to the hill for bucking .... ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 14, 2015, 09:09:04 pm
I'm good ch74,  trust me I wont ask folks for chit.  Thanks though.  8)

I had someone send me a friend invite on FB that I know. I accepted then they ask me to donate to their website. I thought WTH.  I unfriended them and kept walking. Some people.  ::) :-X

Now if I aint got the $$$ and we need some attachment space, I might let you know then and only then if you want to help the site. But I wont ask for hand outs.  Wasn't raised that way.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 14, 2015, 09:33:52 pm
 ;D Me either. Don't forget i was raised in Mich. That not ohio but it will due...lol...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on October 15, 2015, 12:28:18 pm
Thinking about this last night.  Going to assign each chain a letter as they are run like in past. But will also have username or real name beside letter posted here.
That way I just have to mark the letter on the cant end before cuts to identify it on video.  Keeps me from getting chit all mixed up.

Look like this.

A. ch74.  etc    5.12 5.00 5.55
B. cut4fun or Kevin   15.99 16.00 16.33
C. and so on   4.11 4.44 4.33

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 15, 2015, 12:35:44 pm
Thinking about this last night.  Going to assign each chain a letter as they are run like in past. But will also have username or real name beside letter posted here.
That way I just have to mark the letter on the cant end before cuts to identify it on video.  Keeps me from getting chit all mixed up.

Look like this.

A. ch74.  etc    5.12 5.00 5.55
B. cut4fun or Kevin   15.99 16.00 16.33
C. and so on   4.11 4.44 4.33



Deception and subterfuge is strong with this one ................ ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on October 15, 2015, 12:36:22 pm
Next question.  I have 2 options. 

I am thinking I should just make each video individually on my SD card camera I tried 2nd and shot the 415 3800 6700 videos with.

or I could make 1 long video with all the cuts  on the sony  cam dvd.   
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on October 15, 2015, 12:45:43 pm
Here I had wrote chain on each cant when tested 3/8LP chains on stock 35cc poulan in 2011. Off reel chains.

https://youtu.be/u8LjyTmQUrA
https://youtu.be/WOqbtxdfufU
https://youtu.be/oVs2rb7CMxQ
https://youtu.be/znFVT8MlmmU
https://youtu.be/1Iwo-sKjcNI
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 15, 2015, 01:24:31 pm
Next question.  I have 2 options. 

I am thinking I should just make each video individually on my SD card camera I tried 2nd and shot the 415 3800 6700 videos with.

or I could make 1 long video with all the cuts  on the sony  cam dvd.   
Either option is fine with me Sir, so long as we dont have to look around your hind quarter anymore  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 15, 2015, 01:28:45 pm
Next question.  I have 2 options. 

I am thinking I should just make each video individually on my SD card camera I tried 2nd and shot the 415 3800 6700 videos with.

or I could make 1 long video with all the cuts  on the sony  cam dvd.   
Either option is fine with me Sir, so long as we dont have to look around your hind quarter anymore  ;D

Yep wrong cam angle on those. LOL  Learning to get right on log and zoom in more.   
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 15, 2015, 01:44:06 pm
Moparmyway  I remember now why on those videos. I had shot them but never intended posting them as they were for my use to time off of.

But some guy from another country swore his new vxl would out cut new ps3 ps chain. I called BS. They shot videos with operator rocking the cuts up down etc to show.  No way to compare chit IMO.

So I uploaded videos from my HD to YouTube to prove their BS.   :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 15, 2015, 08:12:59 pm
the N1 and ps3 and saftey chain were the winners, but the ps3 won overall. From my looker's that is what it looked like.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 19, 2015, 06:13:46 pm
Kevin.. I know now, why guys put that piece of tape on their handles of the heavy race saws...
Lol..
The perspective just keeps coming...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 19, 2015, 07:22:14 pm
The presents saftey trigger get in your way? That's the only thing I can think of.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 19, 2015, 07:30:33 pm
Kevin.. I know now, why guys put that piece of tape on their handles of the heavy race saws...
Lol..
The perspective just keeps coming...

Most folks use 2 pieces 1 on either side of the hand. I did like this. Black for middle finger, yellow for 2 outside of middle. Perfect balance of saw cold starting.



Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 19, 2015, 07:32:04 pm
The presents saftey trigger get in your way? That's the only thing I can think of.


Tape it  around handle closed with electrical tape.  You can see it on some of the orange handle saws in my pic ( 2 on left side ).
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 20, 2015, 08:23:09 am
nice line up. Were is the echo's...lol..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 20, 2015, 12:15:08 pm
nice line up. Were is the echo's...lol..

Never owned a echo back then. Most of those was woods ported work, ported gtg and racesaws. Only looks like 1 stock saw there.

I sort of went full circle. Started out stock poulan. Went ported saws and full blown race saws. Then went back to stock saws and poulan again with a echo thrown in now too. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 20, 2015, 12:17:33 pm
@ch74

GTG class saws 3 4 5 6 open

screwed pic size up  :'(

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Copyofsign006.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Copyofsign006.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 20, 2015, 12:21:02 pm
This was my county fair racing saws when I first got into it.  The 066 had my very first square filed chain on it. Little did I know just how slow that chain was till I got little better later on.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/CopyofDSCF0073.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/CopyofDSCF0073.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 20, 2015, 12:22:13 pm
Shirt I used to wear when I was ate up.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/redneck.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/redneck.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 20, 2015, 12:23:00 pm
Cold start racing in Luther MI 2007

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Copyofluther5000.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Copyofluther5000.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 20, 2015, 12:25:30 pm
GTG class saws again. The back partner was a copy of MVP ported alky saw, I ran it on gas for gtg's and when I was learning. No head with 272 MVP alky carb. Later on I switched it over to nitro/alky.

Pic was taken in the back of my 65 chevelle convertible.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Copyof375006.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Copyof375006.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 20, 2015, 12:28:50 pm
Just wish I could have ran this Cliff Helsel built hotsaw as good asit looked and ran. But it was over my level.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/CH3120/CopyofCL3120003.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/CH3120/CopyofCL3120003.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/CH3120/CopyofCL3120002.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/CH3120/CopyofCL3120002.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 20, 2015, 12:31:31 pm
MVP  = Marcel Vincent Performance

MVP 166 piped

WG2 carb

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/166/166hotsaw-1.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/166/166hotsaw-1.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/166/Copyof166Dolmar002.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/166/Copyof166Dolmar002.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 20, 2015, 12:39:24 pm
Big Dave = Dave Nieger, Gas learning 084 hotsaw. I bet it didnt have 120-130 psi if that and no head. Ran pretty good for no psi  :D  Finger ports. No external boost ports.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/084S/CopyofDN084005.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/084S/CopyofDN084005.jpg.html)


Video of above saw with a pretty crappy chain on it by past owner that sold it to me.   Good dude and alky racer Brent Combs.

https://youtu.be/HDpqWxQm2qQ



Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 20, 2015, 08:04:50 pm
The open hot saws that won last weekend ran real fast..
3120's..
IIRC bored and stroked to 150cc.
ran real good. Pipes and Alky. Fun to watch.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 20, 2015, 08:24:29 pm
The open hot saws that won last weekend ran real fast..
3120's..
IIRC bored and stroked to 150cc.
ran real good. Pipes and Alky. Fun to watch.

1st and 2nd was Simon Bertrand built saws.

He is a member here. Havent seen him in a long time. That 372 pipe came from him thats on Jim's 372 he bought from me.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on October 20, 2015, 08:31:12 pm
What the choice of cant wood ?  I'm going to do this .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 20, 2015, 09:04:18 pm
What the choice of cant wood ?  I'm going to do this .

8x8 pine

Pics in this thread somewhere.  :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 20, 2015, 09:07:23 pm
The open hot saws that won last weekend ran real fast..
3120's..
IIRC bored and stroked to 150cc.
ran real good. Pipes and Alky. Fun to watch.

1st and 2nd was Simon Bertrand built saws.

He is a member here. Havent seen him in a long time. That 372 pipe came from him thats on Jim's 372 he bought from me.
Yes Bertrand built..
Can't remember the 2 fellas names though.. Had a lot to absorb.
I was just glad I was in the money in a few classes with my work saws.

Pine was the wood..
Not the cleanest pine I'd seen, but better than what I'm used to. Lol.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 20, 2015, 09:08:34 pm
The open hot saws that won last weekend ran real fast..
3120's..
IIRC bored and stroked to 150cc.
ran real good. Pipes and Alky. Fun to watch.

1st and 2nd was Simon Bertrand built saws.

He is a member here. Havent seen him in a long time. That 372 pipe came from him thats on Jim's 372 he bought from me.
Yes Bertrand built..
Can't remember the 2 fellas names though.. Had a lot to absorb.
I was just glad I was in the money in a few classes with my work saws.

Pine was the wood..
Not the cleanest pine I'd seen, but better than what I'm used to. Lol.

Jay Coffman and Steve Winstead. Know them well.  Both members here too.

They should have been in all the alky classes.  Jay won all the SA alky classes I heard.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 20, 2015, 09:19:50 pm
Names sound familiar..
Is Steve a big ole boy?
And there was a fella from MO that was right there in the mix too.
Ran all Stihl's.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 20, 2015, 09:23:40 pm
AWOL and I had a good time running..
Hinerman got in on it too.
I need an Alky saw.. Lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on October 20, 2015, 10:39:00 pm
So the chain is 3/8 .050 LP 44 dl ?
I'm definitely in
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on October 20, 2015, 11:19:14 pm
   Always happy to to contribute to the cause with our entry fee, eh Matt?!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 21, 2015, 12:04:08 am
AWOL and I had a good time running..
Hinerman got in on it too.
I need an Alky saw.. Lol
We'll have to fix it to be placing higher next year.

Guy named Nike Stephenson from MO wants a couple 60dl chain's for his 372 alky.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 21, 2015, 09:50:04 am
   Always happy to to contribute to the cause with our entry fee, eh Matt?!
I put some of our entry fee money in muh tank on the way home.. Lol..
Levi ate some of it too..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 21, 2015, 09:53:33 am
AWOL and I had a good time running..
Hinerman got in on it too.
I need an Alky saw.. Lol
We'll have to fix it to be placing higher next year.

Guy named Nike Stephenson from MO wants a couple 60dl chain's for his 372 alky.
We're really close on the SA gas saws. A little tweaking here and there, and then it's all operator from there.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on October 21, 2015, 12:16:46 pm
   If I can get this P5000 and 662 Solo to run as good as I know they are capable of, we be in the money for 3 and 4 cube SA. And I think our chains were at least on par with the best there.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 21, 2015, 12:23:14 pm
So the chain is 3/8 .050 LP 44 dl ?
I'm definitely in

45 or 44 will work. 3/8LP 050  aka picco
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 21, 2015, 12:25:57 pm
Names sound familiar..
Is Steve a big ole boy?
And there was a fella from MO that was right there in the mix too.
Ran all Stihl's.


Thread in the event board on it. http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/competitions-and-gtg-dates/1st-annual-timberworks-west-plains-missouri/

All stihls. Might be Kenny Heibert or Coon.  Used to race against all 4 of them.  All top notch good folk.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 21, 2015, 12:52:43 pm
Names sound familiar..
Is Steve a big ole boy?
And there was a fella from MO that was right there in the mix too.
Ran all Stihl's.


Thread in the event board on it. http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/competitions-and-gtg-dates/1st-annual-timberworks-west-plains-missouri/

All stihls. Might be Kenny Heibert or Coon.  Used to race against all 4 of them.  All top notch good folk.

Kenny! Memory getting clearer..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 21, 2015, 12:54:10 pm
Names sound familiar..
Is Steve a big ole boy?
And there was a fella from MO that was right there in the mix too.
Ran all Stihl's.


Thread in the event board on it. http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/competitions-and-gtg-dates/1st-annual-timberworks-west-plains-missouri/

All stihls. Might be Kenny Heibert or Coon.  Used to race against all 4 of them.  All top notch good folk.

Kenny! Memory getting clearer..

I'm suprised I can remember it myself. Been years.

Guess you dont forget the good folks you met over your lifetime.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 21, 2015, 01:24:18 pm
@SquareFile  hey Shaun since you got this PS chain all figured out. Come rough these cutters in for me so I dont ruin my only file that was given to me.  ;D

So you going to enter race and work or just race?   That one chain I seen was sweeeeeeeeeet looking.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 21, 2015, 01:30:22 pm
@SquareFile  hey Shaun since you got this PS chain all figured out. Come rough these cutters in for me so I dont ruin my only file

Now youre calling in the professional ringers .......... eh ?  >:(

I knew I should have put grease all over that handle !!!

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 21, 2015, 01:35:59 pm
@SquareFile  hey Shaun since you got this PS chain all figured out. Come rough these cutters in for me so I dont ruin my only file

Now youre calling in the professional ringers .......... eh ?  >:(

I knew I should have put grease all over that handle !!!



Thanks for the hook up man.   8) 8) 8) 8)    Twice now.    ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 21, 2015, 01:37:28 pm
Any of you know IF the little stihl 170 180 saws will pull PS PS3 chain?  I was thinking of making up a loop for dad on that 180 I took in. But it has a new loop of Carlton with it already too. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 21, 2015, 01:38:38 pm

Thanks for the hook up man.   8) 8) 8) 8)    Twice now.    ;)

No need to thank me at all ............. just make sure that The Champs chains see that rebar and concrete up close and real heavy as you warm up your saw !!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 21, 2015, 02:11:09 pm
Repost pic just for you Mr.   ;D   @Skippysphins

See them knot rows? Thats where the better filers chains get tested.  ;)


Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on October 21, 2015, 03:51:53 pm
Any of you know IF the little stihl 170 180 saws will pull PS PS3 chain?  I was thinking of making up a loop for dad on that 180 I took in. But it has a new loop of Carlton with it already too. 
If the bar would interchange I see no reason why it would not .Fact I have an itty bitty little 1.9 Cu In Poulan with a 12" running 50 thou Stihl semi chisel , no problems .Fact it was my climbing saw before I got the 200t's .       
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 21, 2015, 04:18:58 pm
I bet the 180 will shine with that PS chain.  I modified a 12" stihl bar to fit my ms260, gonna see how it does with the PS for kicks... should be fun
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 21, 2015, 07:00:22 pm
I bet the 180 will shine with that PS chain.  I modified a 12" stihl bar to fit my ms260, gonna see how it does with the PS for kicks... should be fun

After test running I bet it will too.  Guy had wrong gage chain with 043 16" bar. Asking dad if he wants 12 or 14 in 050.

IMO this little 180 will eat that little echo 310 I just had here to work on.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on October 21, 2015, 07:22:03 pm
P 5000 I been told they are a mean lil saw
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 21, 2015, 07:43:22 pm
P 5000 I been told they are a mean lil saw

Thats what I raced in 3ci  partner 5000 with 272 carb  stock cylinder head no 2 piece for me.

Murray KY

https://youtu.be/RVHXhf6UoNA
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on October 21, 2015, 08:29:19 pm
Dozer Dan told me its a real runner . you don't know where any are to be had do you ?
Do you need a few files ? In box me let me know
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 21, 2015, 08:59:06 pm
Just watch ebay and craiglist. Thats where I got most of mine back in the day.
Sold out of them when I quit racing. Parts and about a dozen or more 5000 500 490 590.

All I got left that I know of is a bare 490 crankcase that needs new bearings.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 21, 2015, 10:07:25 pm
Dozer Dan told me its a real runner . you don't know where any are to be had do you ?
Do you need a few files ? In box me let me know
They run real well..
Of course, so do the 346's..
And they are a bit more plentiful...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on October 22, 2015, 12:39:06 am
I have a dd 346
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 22, 2015, 01:30:46 pm
Woke up this morning went to the barn and my PS wasnt roughed in  :D .   Guess I'm the only one to blame when  making my slower then stock chain  :o.

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ6YxV0DikZduIq2NI1W89o4wnRnekqU7IszLmsYGXQ7CbxV10o)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 22, 2015, 01:34:43 pm
I have a dd 346

Dan used to put out top notch work. I dont know about now days as I am out of the game. But back then for sure.  I had a 375K before the xpW came out and a OE346 and ran a NE346 of his too.

His work is copied right here in Ohio. Builder north of me used to buy his 346 357 372 372xpw etc for his own till he learned how to port.  Pull them down wright everything down resell and now sells them as his own work. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 22, 2015, 02:13:44 pm
dozerdan 2171 that was bought and copied. ;) Read who is running it to know who it is.  Yep all in the little black book of good numbers to copy. 

PP OE 346 being run and copied by same person.

Yep even the 084 was his that was being tested by Dan.

https://youtu.be/vQDF-6BB3lE
https://youtu.be/0ju_DIsg3qk
https://youtu.be/FYkphjw-kWs
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 22, 2015, 02:29:53 pm
Was doing a internet search on how to square file lp chains and this showed up. So is this how you all are doing it and wonder whos chain this is.

Hmmmmmmm  so hows it cut ;)

Click pic to make bigger then click again even bigger.  :o

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on October 22, 2015, 03:08:56 pm
That top plate angle turned out somewhat blunt like the one I did? Jeff said it cut really good though.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on October 22, 2015, 03:57:50 pm
I don't even have my chains yet . lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on October 22, 2015, 04:56:07 pm
I want dozer Dan's 2171 it rips
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 22, 2015, 07:15:29 pm
I want dozer Dan's 2171 it rips

Think that one had the 375K cylinder on it like mine. 

Racing my 372 375K woods ported gas saw in the alky classes for fun.

https://youtu.be/kxP7sQzIEvw





Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on October 22, 2015, 07:24:10 pm
Which side left facing away or right facing cam is your saw . I m drooling for a minty 2171
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 22, 2015, 07:30:37 pm
Which side left facing away or right facing cam is your saw . I m drooling for a minty 2171

Thats easy to tell. The poor operator with his azz in your face on the left side is a gas saw.  That was a Dozerdan saw.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on October 22, 2015, 08:33:46 pm
That was the one I thought hence putting it first
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on October 22, 2015, 09:03:32 pm
Would love to own that saw !!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 23, 2015, 01:06:09 pm
Would love to own that saw !!

Saws now days have past that one. Just have to use the right builder. Lot of them leaving so much on the table IMO. 

Just be careful who you use (PM for who NOT to use IMO).
One out there has been known to steal parts off your saws. I had a 2 piece head taken and replaced with slower head.  I was noticing 1 tenth slower cut test times and started looking into why. ;) 

76cc I chose not to have the 2mm stroked crank to give the full 81cc for 5ci class.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/376/CopyofBB365alky001.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/376/CopyofBB365alky001.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/376/CopyofBB365alky003.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/376/CopyofBB365alky003.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/376/5.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/376/5.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on October 23, 2015, 01:17:45 pm
Nice 365!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 23, 2015, 01:27:46 pm
Nice 365!!

376 ;) built on 365

EHP Ed Heard didnt have his Wiseco 52mm pistons for sale back then. So this one had a stihl 038 magnum piston in it.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on October 23, 2015, 02:39:04 pm
That saw must have ripped
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 23, 2015, 10:43:45 pm
I worked on my chain some today.  The PS3 no longer has the safety bumpers.   I was going to start filing it today but I am not happy with the files I have and may look for something different.   
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on October 24, 2015, 12:02:51 pm
What files Roger?

I still havent even had time to break and put the chains together. Let alone TRY and file one. 

Getting the OT while we are short handed at work doing 7 days a week still.  Then chit breaking down at home keeping me busy too.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 24, 2015, 03:50:19 pm
What files Roger?

I still havent even had time to break and put the chains together. Let alone TRY and file one. 

Getting the OT while we are short handed at work doing 7 days a week still.  Then chit breaking down at home keeping me busy too.

In the exact same boat as you Cut !
I did have a couple of hours to add a little air coolant setup to my 511A grinder .......... works great too !!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 24, 2015, 04:30:43 pm
Never seen or heard anything  like that. Nice.

You might just be a Redneck IF you can rig up air cooler to your chain grinder. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 24, 2015, 07:58:18 pm
Mopar, what wheel is that?  Adam
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 24, 2015, 10:43:23 pm
Never seen or heard anything  like that. Nice.

You might just be a Redneck IF you can rig up air cooler to your chain grinder. ;)

Welp ......... color my neck red then, cause it works pretty good ......... ice cold without a ton of air either

Mopar, what wheel is that?  Adam

CBN wheel from Diamond Wheel ........... IIRC it was $115 to my front door Sir
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 25, 2015, 08:19:16 am
Those CBN wheels do a nice job.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 25, 2015, 10:56:32 am
CBN has a round profile only?  Any chisel profile?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 25, 2015, 11:30:30 am
Kevin the files I have are the Stihl triangular shape files.   I do not like the finish they leave and the corner is not as sharp as I would like.   
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 25, 2015, 05:17:03 pm
Never cared for any of the tri files myself Roger. Just a personal preference. 


Right now I dont want to even look at another chain for a bit. Finished up all the dropped off chains on one run and hit my knuckle good on the wheel while getting complacent in repetition motion. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 26, 2015, 09:45:47 am
CBN has a round profile only?  Any chisel profile?

Not available in chisel corners that I know of Adam.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 26, 2015, 11:06:56 am
Yea that would be nice if CBN wheels could do square ground.   But round it is.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 26, 2015, 12:30:51 pm
Be cool to have a batch made up!  Have a few chisel bit files  blanks which had been diamond electroplated. Worked well for fine tuning the cutter.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 26, 2015, 12:53:31 pm
Be cool to have a batch made up!  Have a few chisel bit files  blanks which had been diamond electroplated. Worked well for fine tuning the cutter.

I bet it worked great.   The diamond seems to leave a smoother finish.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 26, 2015, 01:37:07 pm
Yep , nice sharp corners and good finish.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 26, 2015, 01:46:41 pm
One of the wheel companies said they could make one. The corner was what had me wondering if it would be as crisp as a dressed stone or file.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 26, 2015, 02:25:49 pm
One of the wheel companies said they could make one. The corner was what had me wondering if it would be as crisp as a dressed stone or file.

Any of these ring a bell?  http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/ported-saws/cbn-borazon-chain-grinding-wheels/msg38038/#msg38038

I tried to dress a wheel back in the day on the USG without the square grinder attachment.   Even with all the adjustments on it, couldnt get it right to cut worth a hoot.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 26, 2015, 04:21:37 pm
It may have been diamond wheel. I think it was in the $200 neighborhood
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 26, 2015, 05:25:27 pm
Be cool to have a batch made up!  Have a few chisel bit files  blanks which had been diamond electroplated. Worked well for fine tuning the cutter.
How much did they cost?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 26, 2015, 06:54:44 pm
Cliff gave me a couple few years ago, don't know the cost. they were made on Swiss made Save edge blanks. Emailed save edge about getting blanks and it wasn't a problem.  I'll research the blank and coating cost if there's any interest
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 26, 2015, 07:46:22 pm
If the corners were good, I'd be interested in a couple.. Might help with a hardened toof.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 26, 2015, 08:23:13 pm
Sorry ya'll been busy.
Mopar, that air cooling thing is a perfect idea.
Cut4. That 365 is bada$$...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 26, 2015, 08:23:44 pm
Hope nobody has forgotten about me.... ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 26, 2015, 09:11:30 pm
Mopar, that air cooling thing is a perfect idea.

Thanks Bud !!
I tried linking a quick media, but its too large

Hope nobody has forgotten about me.... ;D

Who are you ?   ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 26, 2015, 09:11:52 pm
It's the quite ones you need to worry about.  ;)

 ;D :D :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 26, 2015, 10:42:56 pm
Cliff gave me a couple few years ago, don't know the cost. they were made on Swiss made Save edge blanks. Emailed save edge about getting blanks and it wasn't a problem.  I'll research the blank and coating cost if there's any interest

Sure I would be interested in some also.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 26, 2015, 10:59:23 pm
I'll do some research..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 27, 2015, 05:44:18 am
I still having started. I've got these to do as well as the race chain for the fundraiser and 2 more for a guy in Missouri that runs a 372 alky. Going to be a busy winter for me.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 27, 2015, 06:48:46 am
It's the quite ones you need to worry about.  ;)

 ;D :D :P

Good old ch74 is using sandpaper wraped around a rusty nail ! Probably take first place too !!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 27, 2015, 06:49:37 am
I'll do some research..

I am also interested
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on October 27, 2015, 08:20:19 am
 ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 27, 2015, 12:05:54 pm
I'm just glad you all see the fun in this and not all serious like I see some get.  ::)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 27, 2015, 12:18:14 pm
I'm just glad you all see the fun in this and not all serious like I see some get.  ::)

To me, the fun is getting everyone involved, the trash talking is just to keep it interesting, and I will guarantee that at least one of my 5 chains will take last place ........... so nobody else will ever have anything to be ashamed of !!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 27, 2015, 12:40:35 pm
Trash talk is the FUN part IMO.   ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 27, 2015, 02:45:18 pm
Hedge just so you know when you were talking about the 150cc 3120's. I know some of those were 140cc under per rules of classes run at shows. Webster is one of those that has to be 140cc under and those saws ran there.

But there is bigger cc out there. Just so you know. ;)

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 27, 2015, 03:22:47 pm
They sure hauled the mail. That's for sure..

I got a 346 headed this way to run in the SA gas class next year..

Very promising.. But I'll have to run it a bit and see how I'm gonna chain it. Should be running in Linn MO this July I hope.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 27, 2015, 05:48:36 pm
I need to get to work on My own saws after I get 4 race chains done. Hard to do with no time off work and other people's saws setting there.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 27, 2015, 06:09:51 pm
Mike, what saws you building for yourself?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 27, 2015, 06:22:27 pm
I have 3 more days of work on 15 day stretch. Then I am taking a break this weekend.
Between others stuff coming in and work itself, just ready for some time off.   

I called last night and got some time off early Nov to give me a 5 day weekend. I'm ready.

Thinking about ordering a 10x10 or 12x12 to just set back and play with my stock saws.   Used to be some good stress relief just doing change over after change over in a cant.

https://youtu.be/8S-GqEFirBk
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 27, 2015, 06:42:53 pm
Mike, what saws you building for yourself?
365, 372, 181, and a 395. 3 are in pieces in boxes.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 28, 2015, 04:46:48 pm
Russ @ Save Edge, replied back saying they're importing chisel bit files from Portugal so they don't have blanks anymore...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 28, 2015, 06:38:35 pm
To cool.

Just priced 10x10 8' and 12x12 '8  for $30 and $40  hmmmmmmm could be fun.

The 8x8 8' were $20 apiece when I got them.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 28, 2015, 07:16:42 pm
Those are cheap. I need to call a few local saw mills.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on October 28, 2015, 07:27:10 pm
Those really are good prices..
Last 10x10's I got were dang near $50 each!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 28, 2015, 07:48:11 pm
Those really are good prices..
Last 10x10's I got were dang near $50 each!

Poplar was in the 40's last time I bought them in 10x10. White pine is way cheaper.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on October 28, 2015, 08:00:23 pm
.......chain came in, nice chain..  hahaha

didn't know which to try first.  both.

thanks man
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on October 28, 2015, 08:05:05 pm
   Those should make for some good filing fluid!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on October 28, 2015, 08:16:35 pm
I got the 12" .050  bar today, chain should be here by weeks end .Problem working 7-12's is everything is closed when I get off work .It's either flea bay or some on-line supplier .Flea bay on the chain is only a couple bucks more than at the dealers .

I've got 4 or 5 14" Stihl bars, one 16" and one 12" but it's skinny chain  .043 thou .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 28, 2015, 08:22:24 pm
Man I need a good brew bad. Come on weekend.

Make sure to post those beers in the brew thread and your feedback on them for us. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 28, 2015, 08:38:54 pm
Joe, glad the brews made the trip. Was a little worried about them braking and pissing off the UPS folks
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on October 28, 2015, 09:23:51 pm
kev........those are some fine suds.  the water must have been got 400+ down with the drought.

told that cali hippy that i was going to send him some local east coast brew......hope it makes the return ride as well.  hahahaha.



 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on October 28, 2015, 10:36:31 pm
The sculpin is a good one !
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on October 29, 2015, 09:54:28 pm
Joe, glad the brews made the trip. Was a little worried about them braking and pissing off the UPS folks

adam......glad you found a way to pack the bottles!  hope you enjoy the beers i send as much as i enjoyed those.

drank them both last evening.  that sculpin has some alky kick, and took me by surprise.  drinking both at a sitting was a little too much for a weeknight.

thanks again .....joe
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 29, 2015, 10:08:45 pm
I got my little Poulan micro 25 running today and it just happens to have a 12" bar.   So I decided to check my chain on it.   The only thing I have to compare it to is semi chisel that was on the saw.   I had sharpened it and it was cutting good, but my PS3 out cut it by 3 seconds in some spruce I have here.   I may have to get another stock PS3 so I can get a good comparison and make sure I am not going backwards.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on October 29, 2015, 10:48:08 pm
Roger, been messing with the PS on an 026 and I must say it really good right off the roll!   The stihl grind isn't file round and has a more pronounced corner.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on October 29, 2015, 10:51:59 pm
Roger, been messing with the PS on an 026 and I must say it really good right off the roll!   The stihl grind isn't file round and has a more pronounced corner.

I agree.   I ran some once on a Poulan 295 that I had modified and the chain was impressive from anything else I had on the saw.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 30, 2015, 08:04:30 am
   I may have to get another stock PS3 so I can get a good comparison and make sure I am not going backwards.

Going a little backwards might be a good thing for this race
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on October 31, 2015, 08:12:07 pm
Ok finally received my chain .but I am dead tired from cutting trees down all day .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on October 31, 2015, 08:42:45 pm
Hey Cut,
May I ask a favor from you ?
If you can, would you be able to post the date deadline (17 Dec) in post #1, I had a few senior moments today, AWS, Q-01, and house permit all expiring close together, wasnt sure of the deadline, but finally found it on page 3 or 4 (dang - there goes ANOTHER senior moment) ...............

It would help me to double-check this deadline quickly ............... thank you !!!

____________________________________________________________________________

Anybody's fingers bleeding from filing there grubby little nibblers yet ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 31, 2015, 08:55:05 pm
Hey Cut,
May I ask a favor from you ?
If you can, would you be able to post the date deadline (17 Dec) in post #1, I had a few senior moments today, AWS, Q-01, and house permit all expiring close together, wasnt sure of the deadline, but finally found it on page 3 or 4 (dang - there goes ANOTHER senior moment) ...............

It would help me to double-check this deadline quickly ............... thank you !!!

____________________________________________________________________________

Anybody's fingers bleeding from filing there grubby little nibblers yet ?

I was trying to remember  myself.    ;D

Will be done as soon as I hit post here and back up to 1st post.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 31, 2015, 08:59:07 pm
Hows that? Check 1st post.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on October 31, 2015, 09:19:14 pm
Haven't even seen mine yet.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 31, 2015, 09:45:04 pm
Havent broke and even got mine together to start trying to file.   Been to busy to even think about it.
First day off in 15 days or so and I enjoyed it with family all day.   

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on October 31, 2015, 10:56:55 pm
Good for you . . .   Enjoy
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 01, 2015, 07:13:27 am
Haven't even seen mine yet.
Thats a good thing ........... you might not be too happy, I spun your cutters on the inside of them loops  ;D

You do have some work just waiting for you to get home, you might be backed up too bad to try the 90's untill WAY after the Holidays

Hows that? Check 1st post.
DANG ...............  that will work !!!
Thank you Sir !!

I love spending time with the family. Good on you for taking the time for them !!

After work, I grabbed the first three kids and started splitting and stacking yesterday. Got in 5 full hours of swinging my maul at some seasoned black ash and hickory (my son was splitting too) while the other two gremlins loaded, then we all stacked ........... great family time. I kept thanking them for helping their old man, and I rewarded them with soft cookies and ice cream from the store. The girls wouldnt stop telling me how they loved the time we spent "all day" and could we do more tomorrow.......... the 13 year old boy couldnt do much except moan and complain of how his growing muscles were hurting him.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 01, 2015, 08:09:41 am
the 13 year old boy couldnt do much except moan and complain of how his growing muscles were hurting him.

LOL dont they all at that age if it is working. Now if it was working out with weights with friends around no problem.


Yep son came in from college. We went to red lobster for their shrimp fest again.  ;D Think it was the 3rd time now.

Then somehow I took them for a little walk in a gun store and they bought me a 444 marlin single shot h&r I been wanting. Being I wouldnt put out the $$$ for a lever action I really wanted. 
I told them, guess what you guys are getting me  ;D. They had no clue till they saw me at the counter filling out paper work.  :P


Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 01, 2015, 08:39:56 am
Thats the spirit !!
When mine are older, they too will "magically" get me some of the things that I want  ;D


I squared up a PS3 for the race ............. took out a new file doing it too. Might have to rethink the 5 chains thing and drop down to 2 or 3 chains. These files aint cheap !!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 01, 2015, 08:47:07 am
I thought you were  :o when you said 5 chains too.  Most I have seen someone send in before was 3 I think.
Heck I have done 2 before.

I just want to try to square a work chain and modify a round chain like I used too for faster round. Heck I may slow it up over stock chain.  :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 01, 2015, 08:16:39 pm
I'll get to it all eventually this winter.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 02, 2015, 07:38:21 am
I thought you were  :o when you said 5 chains too.  Most I have seen someone send in before was 3 I think.
Heck I have done 2 before.

I just want to try to square a work chain and modify a round chain like I used too for faster round. Heck I may slow it up over stock chain.  :P
Slowing it up might not be a bad thing on the small saw.
I think 3 decent chains will be done, and a 4th for last place

I'll get to it all eventually this winter.

The cold end of January and February are the slowest months here.
I will have about 12 loops of 36" .404 to convert to square filed by then. I will be saving them just for that dull time
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 02, 2015, 07:45:09 am
I'm betting I will get them tested in Dec when I am off for a week and half around Christmas. 

Reason for the Dec 17th date for receiving them by. 

Then they are on hand if for some reason I cant get them tested during Christmas holidays. Then I would try it after Jan 1st. Really going to try to do it before the 24th.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 02, 2015, 08:09:29 am
I'm betting I will get them tested in Dec when I am off for a week and half around Christmas. 

Reason for the Dec 17th date for receiving them by. 

Then they are on hand if for some reason I cant get them tested during Christmas holidays. Then I would try it after Jan 1st. Really going to try to do it before the 24th.
Whatever works for you is good for me ............
Its been eerily quiet in this thread, if my left ear wasnt half deaf with hearing loss and a loud unrelenting ringing, I could have sworn that I might have heard my squared up PS chain mocking me
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 02, 2015, 08:33:06 am
I'm betting I will get them tested in Dec when I am off for a week and half around Christmas. 

Reason for the Dec 17th date for receiving them by. 

Then they are on hand if for some reason I cant get them tested during Christmas holidays. Then I would try it after Jan 1st. Really going to try to do it before the 24th.

Whatever works for you is good for me ............
Its been eerily quiet in this thread, if my left ear wasnt half deaf with hearing loss and a loud unrelenting ringing, I could have sworn that I might have heard my squared up PS chain mocking me

I find it funny the most boisterous chest thumping person newer to square filing has turned to a lurker.   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Heck he will probably win the dang thing as his PS chains look like they cut goooooood on videos.  Behind a ported 50cc though. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 02, 2015, 10:11:05 am

I find it funny the most boisterous chest thumping person newer to square filing has turned to a .   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

HEY ........... I didnt think that I was thumping my chest too much, matter of fact I kind of thought I should poke a little more  ::)

Anybody hear from squarefile lately, I wonder how his chain is doing ?  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 02, 2015, 10:46:41 am

I find it funny the most boisterous chest thumping person newer to square filing has turned to a .   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

HEY ........... I didnt think that I was thumping my chest too much, matter of fact I kind of thought I should poke a little more  ::)

Anybody hear from squarefile lately, I wonder how his chain is doing ?  ;D

Hey you left out LURKER  :P. Watcha saying turned into a ?    :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 02, 2015, 10:50:32 am
I never do as good with the smaller saws. I always drag them down too much. Maybe with this smaller chain that won't be as much trouble.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 02, 2015, 11:33:48 am

Hey you left out LURKER  :P. Watcha saying turned into a ?    :D :D :D :D

Well ...........I took that comment and applied it to me.
I havent seen SF posting, I hope he is still going to send in some LoPro for this

I never do as good with the smaller saws. I always drag them down too much. Maybe with this smaller chain that won't be as much trouble.

So says the seasoned expert who does race chains on the side  ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 02, 2015, 12:00:36 pm

Hey you left out LURKER  :P. Watcha saying turned into a ?    :D :D :D :D

Well ...........I took that comment and applied it to me.
I havent seen SF posting, I hope he is still going to send in some LoPro for this

I never do as good with the smaller saws. I always drag them down too much. Maybe with this smaller chain that won't be as much trouble.

So says the seasoned expert who does race chains on the side  ;)

Shaun SF said he was in.   8)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 02, 2015, 12:39:22 pm

Shaun SF said he was in.   8)

It would be good to see him get in some trash talking .............. be good to see everyone get in on a little more action. I dont want to stay at 6 cubes forever
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 02, 2015, 03:58:35 pm

Shaun SF said he was in.   8)

It would be good to see him get in some trash talking .............. be good to see everyone get in on a little more action. I dont want to stay at 6 cubes forever

Muh chain is done..
But I don't have a bar it'll fit on. The little homelite 12" bar is too thick it seems,
Now I gotta buy a bar to fit on a poulan wild thing for testing...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 02, 2015, 04:32:05 pm
I aint going to test anything when I do file my work chains. That way I can be completely embarrassed when it cuts slower then a stock chain :P .    :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 02, 2015, 04:33:49 pm

Shaun SF said he was in.   8)

It would be good to see him  get in some trash talking .............. be good to see everyone get in on a little more action.

Probably dont have permission.  ;) :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 02, 2015, 05:34:31 pm
I'll do a chain or to.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 02, 2015, 05:37:58 pm
I'll do a chain or to.

Good to see you in here..
The choice of chain fodder is the Stihl PS or PS3, made square.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 02, 2015, 06:21:17 pm
I'll do a chain or to.

Cool.   8)

Now will you do mine too.   :P :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 02, 2015, 06:24:02 pm
I'll do a chain or to.

Good to see you in here..
The choice of chain fodder is the Stihl PS or PS3, made square.


Now you know I said any picco 3/8LP chain  ;D. if he chooses semi chisel thats good too. ;) 

But PS PS3 is the better choice.

Also 45dl or 44dl

Received by Dec 17th 8pm.

username chainbuildoff for address when mailing.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 02, 2015, 07:38:42 pm
I'll do a chain or to.

Cool.   8)

Now will you do mine too.    :D
I'll do yours first. It'll be my 4th loop of square & 1st lp.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on November 02, 2015, 07:58:45 pm
I got the chain Saturday .Plus I found 4 out of 6 multi beveled files which surprised me .

I'm going to do this thing at work, that way I can get paid for it .Well what the hey either file on a chain or work crossword puzzles . ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 02, 2015, 09:16:17 pm

Muh chain is done..
But I don't have a bar it'll fit on. The little homelite 12" bar is too thick it seems,
Now I gotta buy a bar to fit on a poulan wild thing for testing...

Yes !!!
test on that Wildthang .............. or better yet, get a 12" bar for that Mutt 064 and test on that - just to be sure that it will cut well, and stuff  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 02, 2015, 09:19:51 pm
I'll do a chain or to.

Welcome to the PS/PS3 PeeWee madness !!
The more chains we send to Cut4fun, the colder his grubby little nubbs will get !!

Nothing like sending his neighbors lots of good smellin 2 stroke air for the Holidays !!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on November 03, 2015, 09:33:02 am
I got permission to post. Lol. Whatever that's supposed to mean.

I don't have a chain yet. I'm trying to locate a saw to barrow with the dl count on it.

My plant is shutting down in a couple weeks and hope to do it then. I'll be driving right by the host house on Thanksgiving and drop it off if that's OK?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 03, 2015, 11:13:59 am
I got permission to post. Lol. Whatever that's supposed to mean.

I don't have a chain yet. I'm trying to locate a saw to barrow with the dl count on it.

My plant is shutting down in a couple weeks and hope to do it then. I'll be driving right by the host house on Thanksgiving and drop it off if that's OK?
Make sure you grab Kevin's chain and rub it around in the driveway a little while you're over there.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 03, 2015, 11:37:35 am
I got permission to post. Lol. Whatever that's supposed to mean.

I don't have a chain yet. I'm trying to locate a saw to barrow with the dl count on it.

My plant is shutting down in a couple weeks and hope to do it then. I'll be driving right by the host house on Thanksgiving and drop it off if that's OK?
I have plenty of PS3 if you want a couple of loops
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 03, 2015, 11:44:54 am
I got permission to post. Lol. Whatever that's supposed to mean.

I don't have a chain yet. I'm trying to locate a saw to barrow with the dl count on it.

My plant is shutting down in a couple weeks and hope to do it then. I'll be driving right by the host house on Thanksgiving and drop it off if that's OK?
Make sure you grab Kevin's chain and rub it around in the driveway a little while you're over there.

Do it to the stock chain too. That's the only one I'm worried about.


Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 03, 2015, 11:52:37 am
I got permission to post. Lol. Whatever that's supposed to mean.

I don't have a chain yet. I'm trying to locate a saw to barrow with the dl count on it.

My plant is shutting down in a couple weeks and hope to do it then. I'll be driving right by the host house on Thanksgiving and drop it off if that's OK?
Make sure you grab Kevin's chain and rub it around in the driveway a little while you're over there.

Do it to the stock chain too. That's the only one I'm worried about.



Truth.. Dub that sucker.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 03, 2015, 12:04:59 pm
I got permission to post. Lol. Whatever that's supposed to mean.

I don't have a chain yet. I'm trying to locate a saw to barrow with the dl count on it.

My plant is shutting down in a couple weeks and hope to do it then. I'll be driving right by the host house on Thanksgiving and drop it off if that's OK?

Hopefully just shutting down for the Hoildays I hope. To me closing and moved out of state and country already.

Thanksgiving dont work for me Shaun. But glad to see you post and let us know whats going on.

Just put a 12" K095 on your stock 45cc

Also on chain wish you would have said something I have been putting off buying a roll as I dont need that much. We could of halved it. Been buying other toys instead.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 03, 2015, 12:08:49 pm
I'll do a chain or to.

Welcome to the PS/PS3 PeeWee madness !!
The more chains we send to Cut4fun, the colder his grubby little nubbs will get !!

Nothing like sending his neighbors lots of good smellin 2 stroke air for the Holidays !!

Neighbors no such thing here. Fields then I can see their house 1/8 mile then  about 1/4 mile is a bunch.  Other side nothing but fields.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 03, 2015, 12:10:21 pm
Hard to believe M&M stihl shop dont carry PS PS3 up by you Squarefile.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 03, 2015, 12:11:28 pm
I got permission to post. Lol. Whatever that's supposed to mean.

I don't have a chain yet. I'm trying to locate a saw to barrow with the dl count on it.

My plant is shutting down in a couple weeks and hope to do it then. I'll be driving right by the host house on Thanksgiving and drop it off if that's OK?
Make sure you grab Kevin's chain and rub it around in the driveway a little while you're over there.

Wouldnt hurt it a bit. heck might help it.   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on November 03, 2015, 12:42:29 pm
My dealer Hostetlers has both. Just trying to find a friend with a compareable ph and bar. They can have the chain, faster or slower.

Later guys, I used my two post persmisson slip. Lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 03, 2015, 02:53:38 pm
My dealer Hostetlers has both. Just trying to find a friend with a compareable ph and bar. They can have the chain, faster or slower.

Later guys, I used my two post persmisson slip. Lol

Have bar and saw here. ;) 

Just bring your own  4' long or so test wood you want to use. That way they cant say I let you test cut the build off wood.  :P

2 in one day. Slow down HOSS.   :D :D :D   
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 03, 2015, 02:55:33 pm
Hostetlers in Danville?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 03, 2015, 05:36:12 pm
Had the wife helping  me search for that blame 4 sided square file you sent me Moparmyway.  Couldnt remember where I put it. About a half hour later I spot this clean white rag on bench #2 behind a saw. Thinking to myself no clean rags on my benches. 
Yep there it was.  :-[ :-X :P ::) ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on November 03, 2015, 06:03:44 pm
Anymore, I cannot find something when looking at it.

I especially cannot find something I put away so it would not get misplaced.

I have to get the wife to help me find it.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 03, 2015, 07:22:01 pm
I ordered another chain, might do a round file also.   We'll see.   At least I will have a stock chain to compare to so I will not be embarrassed to badly.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 03, 2015, 07:24:14 pm
Good thinking mopar give a 4 sided file buddy !
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 03, 2015, 08:13:57 pm
Good thinking mopar give a 4 sided file buddy !

Some of us like and requested  4 sided. ;)

I just dont have my guide anymore and cant freehand for chit.  :'(

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/MS660066/310mufflermod006.jpg)



Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 03, 2015, 08:26:52 pm
I only every seen 6 sided or those triangle files . can you provide a pic of one
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on November 03, 2015, 08:39:15 pm
The VALLORBE square files are 4 sided.

They are normally used with the ATOP guide

You can get them from Bailey's

When the two sides get chipped, I use the file up on rakers
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 03, 2015, 08:50:32 pm
Ok I know which files we are talking about now
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 03, 2015, 09:04:08 pm
u before
I only every seen 6 sided or those triangle files . can you provide a pic of one

I've showed them to you before a couple times now.

Plus they are in this thread and the square files thread here.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 03, 2015, 10:50:24 pm
No worries I thought they might have been something else . I know what those files look like sorry
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on November 04, 2015, 01:05:31 am

[img http://(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/Aclarke123/Mobile%20Uploads/20151103_214806_zpslvlamfht.jpg) (http://s1184.photobucket.com/user/Aclarke123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151103_214806_zpslvlamfht.jpg.html)/img]


Round filed a couple loops and did one square. This PS is so small it's definitely file by braille affair after a few beers. Gonna get a bigger lighted magnifier for this chit!!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on November 04, 2015, 06:35:17 am
Very nice Adam. Cut you want me to send you your guide back for a couple of days. I found it is easier for me to free hand any way. Either way my square chain are not the best but practice makes better. I hope
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 04, 2015, 07:57:16 am
White rags are lifesavers for me, if its pure white, you have to go look at whats goin on !



Skippy, the 4 sided square files are better at getting the side cutters on PS all the way to the gullets ......... Cut didnt just fall off the turnip truck, there is wisdom behind his thinking !
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 04, 2015, 12:18:07 pm
Skippy no reason to be sorry.  I just know the pics are out there on a simple search here.

jmester I dont think it will work on this PS as it was made for RS LG etc. Taller cutters etc.   

I just liked having something to lay the file on other side to keep it right stroke after stroke. I cant do that free handed. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 04, 2015, 05:56:08 pm
I do not free hand for crap either.  I am grinding mine first.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 04, 2015, 06:15:45 pm
One must use "The Force", to keep the file straight and true..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 04, 2015, 06:34:31 pm

One must use "The Force", to keep the file straight and true..
That's all I got to use as well. Never used a file guide of any kind. I did have a grinder but could always beat it with filed chains.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 04, 2015, 07:06:42 pm

One must use "The Force", to keep the file straight and true..
That's all I got to use as well. Never used a file guide of any kind. I did have a grinder but could always beat it with filed chains.

All I have seen do. Hand over machine.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 04, 2015, 08:01:24 pm
There's supposed to be a few people that do good grinding. I've not seen one beat a hand filed
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 04, 2015, 08:14:02 pm
I will break and spin my chain this weekend and start filing it .I hope the force is with me hedgerow
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 04, 2015, 08:20:04 pm
There's supposed to be a few people that do good grinding. I've not seen one beat a hand filed

I had some good ones off square grinders. But my hand filed ones were faster.  Just talking tenths here. But 1 tenth per cut adds up to 3 tenths in a 3 cut race and some were 2 tenths faster.

I know a guy that has his chains down to the hundredths when comparing them. Good operator.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 04, 2015, 08:34:30 pm
Yea but it gives me something to start with and all of you have nothing to worry about from a newby.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 04, 2015, 09:03:06 pm
I wish  I had a grinder like yours Roger. Be wayyyyy better then anything I can file.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 05, 2015, 12:34:42 am
Well I have just a few more things to do to the chain and then I am calling it good.   This is all new to me so I really do not know what works and what does not.   Just using what I have found on the net for info.   I am going to see if that little 12" bar will fit on my Poulan 295 and then give the chain a test in some cottonwood I picked up today.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 05, 2015, 10:27:25 am
It's raining here today. So maybe I'll get a chance to work on mine
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 05, 2015, 03:21:15 pm
It's raining here today. So maybe I'll get a chance to work on mine
Feel free to come on over Dec 12 and we'll test against the loop I kept stock..
You got a baby saw with the proper bar?
I may have to just go buy one.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 05, 2015, 03:24:19 pm
Put a 12" on a wild thing or pp220 pp260 or any other small saw.   :P

Dont you all own any small dang trim saws?   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 05, 2015, 03:51:30 pm
Put a 12" on a wild thing or pp220 pp260 or any other small saw.   :P

Dont you all own any small dang trim saws?   :D :D :D
Nope.. all 58 DL and up.. Got a 33cc homie top handle with a 12" bar, but it takes like 47 dl..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on November 05, 2015, 04:07:50 pm
   Just do your chains up in 47 driver loops, and shorten to 45. I'll do mine in 47 driver so we can test em on the 12th. May have to next day em so Cut will have them by the 17th deadline!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 05, 2015, 04:47:10 pm
It's raining here today. So maybe I'll get a chance to work on mine
Feel free to come on over Dec 12 and we'll test against the loop I kept stock..
You got a baby saw with the proper bar?
I may have to just go buy one.

A friend has a 338, need to figure out the bar. And find some softwood. I'll be there. Don't know for how long.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 05, 2015, 04:53:04 pm
Oops, I almost forgot...

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 05, 2015, 05:06:25 pm
   Just do your chains up in 47 driver loops, and shorten to 45. I'll do mine in 47 driver so we can test em on the 12th. May have to next day em so Cut will have them by the 17th deadline!
Hold that thought.. I may have a solution.. Time to customize the super EZ..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 05, 2015, 05:07:09 pm
Oops, I almost forgot...


That looks like a good cutter.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 05, 2015, 05:27:53 pm
   Just do your chains up in 47 driver loops, and shorten to 45. I'll do mine in 47 driver so we can test em on the 12th. May have to next day em so Cut will have them by the 17th deadline!

USPS Priority is 2-3 days.   I wouldnt pay the extra for over night IMO
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 05, 2015, 05:30:01 pm
It's raining here today. So maybe I'll get a chance to work on mine
Feel free to come on over Dec 12 and we'll test against the loop I kept stock..
You got a baby saw with the proper bar?
I may have to just go buy one.

A friend has a 338, need to figure out the bar. And find some softwood. I'll be there. Don't know for how long.

my 338 with 12" was 45dl
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 05, 2015, 05:31:08 pm
Oops, I almost forgot...



Hired    8) ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 05, 2015, 05:32:17 pm
   Just do your chains up in 47 driver loops, and shorten to 45. I'll do mine in 47 driver so we can test em on the 12th. May have to next day em so Cut will have them by the 17th deadline!
Hold that thought.. I may have a solution.. Time to customize the super EZ..

Was going to say. I cut a 22" 76DL down to a 20" 72DL for a friend in K041.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 05, 2015, 05:46:03 pm
It's raining here today. So maybe I'll get a chance to work on mine
Feel free to come on over Dec 12 and we'll test against the loop I kept stock..
You got a baby saw with the proper bar?
I may have to just go buy one.

A friend has a 338, need to figure out the bar. And find some softwood. I'll be there. Don't know for how long.

my 338 with 12" was 45dl

Good to know.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 05, 2015, 05:56:06 pm
Oops, I almost forgot...



Hired    8) ;D

Who knows how well that'll cut. I use "The Schwartz".
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 05, 2015, 06:00:14 pm
True that. Some of the best looking square filed chain I have seen cut for chit. The best cutting ones always looked like they were dragged through heck and back.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 05, 2015, 07:18:09 pm
Seems like sometimes you spend a ton of time on one and then just file another and it's faster.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 05, 2015, 08:05:43 pm
Yeah.. Depends on saw and wood too.
I just try to make em sharp.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 06, 2015, 07:48:00 am
When I try to make them sharp, they get dull faster.

I dont know how in the world anyone is getting that cutter to look that good without nailing them tie straps, especially since concretegrazers is filed back some


Competition looks to be fierce ............ I had better get finished and get mine out so I dont keep going back to them with the file every time someone else posts up more pictures of their cutters
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 06, 2015, 12:14:44 pm
(http://)

This one make you feel better?

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 06, 2015, 12:34:13 pm
Dang that thing looks sharp.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 06, 2015, 01:12:10 pm
(http://)

This one make you feel better?



Nope ..........not at all
thanks Hedge ........ looks like a few more days before I send mine out now  >:(

 That thing is so sharp ....................my eyes are bleeding
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 06, 2015, 01:44:56 pm
Sharp? Yes..

Fast?? Eh...

Maybe not so much..

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 06, 2015, 02:45:47 pm
Dug around to find which saw had that picco chain on it.  Turns out it is one of the the Poulan 260's not a 295 like I thought.   Got the 12" bar on it now.   Just waiting for another 44 DL PS3 chain to get here and then some comparisons.   Took a piece of pine and cut it into a 8" square.   So we will see.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 06, 2015, 03:03:18 pm
(http://)

This one make you feel better?



Nope ..........not at all
thanks Hedge ........ looks like a few more days before I send mine out now  >:(

 That thing is so sharp ....................my eyes are bleeding

Don't worry....I'll fix it.  
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 06, 2015, 07:22:57 pm
I got to see the tiny chain's. Disnt start on them since I had a water heater dump several gallons in the basement
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on November 06, 2015, 09:28:08 pm
Glad to know your home with family Mike!! 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 06, 2015, 09:56:51 pm
I got to see the tiny chain's. Disnt start on them since I had a water heater dump several gallons in the basement

Yep I'm on borrowed time on my 80gal one.  I have water alarms set by it and the first drain now. 
I figured anytime I will be doing that also.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 07, 2015, 07:03:42 am
Got someone coming today. They changed our codes this year so ill left them get it up to code.

Nice to be home. I already cut 2 based this morning.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 07, 2015, 08:21:45 am

Don't worry....I'll fix it.  

Yes, yes, yes ............ anything that can be done to slow down that oversized wookie chain wizzard would be most helpfull to the rest of us filing wannabees !!

I got to see the tiny chain's. Disnt start on them since I had a water heater dump several gallons in the basement
Just the kind of "warm welcome" you were hoping for - eh ??

Glad to know your home with family Mike!! 

I will second that !!

Nice to be home. I already cut 2 based this morning.


At the rate that you have work piling up there, you better get out of first gear and start thinking about going straight to third !!

I really miss home after staying at work for 2-3 days ............ I dont think I would do too well being gone for longer than that. The little varmints have grown on me too much !!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 07, 2015, 10:01:49 am
Just dusting off my ribbon. :P

(http://competitionsaws.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=46.0;attach=70;image)

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 07, 2015, 10:03:15 am
Can you all see the ribbon? I just cheated and took my pic from competition saws.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 07, 2015, 10:30:25 am
Just dusting off my ribbon. :P



Can you all see the ribbon?

I dont see any ribbon .............. maybe cause you aint gunna win one ??  :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 07, 2015, 10:38:51 am
Just dusting off my ribbon. :P



Can you all see the ribbon?

I dont see any ribbon .............. maybe cause you aint gunna win one ??  :D

Oh I will win one. ;)

Here it is.  ;D

Try posting embedded here.

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5237.0;attach=15765;image)



Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on November 07, 2015, 10:48:39 am
I like that. Lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 07, 2015, 10:48:51 am

Don't worry....I'll fix it.  

Yes, yes, yes ............ anything that can be done to slow down that oversized wookie chain wizzard would be most helpfull to the rest of us filing wannabees !!

I got to see the tiny chain's. Disnt start on them since I had a water heater dump several gallons in the basement
Just the kind of "warm welcome" you were hoping for - eh ??

Glad to know your home with family Mike!! 

I will second that !!

Nice to be home. I already cut 2 based this morning.


At the rate that you have work piling up there, you better get out of first gear and start thinking about going straight to third !!

I really miss home after staying at work for 2-3 days ............ I dont think I would do too well being gone for longer than that. The little varmints have grown on me too much !!
I'm not taking any more work this year. I'm going to finish what I have and try to get the other few trees down and to the guy with a band mill.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 07, 2015, 11:33:18 am

I'm not taking any more work this year.

CRAP !!
I will have to step up the pressure on the lathe that I have my eye on then.

Next item will be a Foredom and a right angle hand piece........... the list never ends !!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 07, 2015, 11:59:03 am
I like that. Lol

Yeah I got to knock the dust off that one. One of my better ribbons. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 07, 2015, 12:24:22 pm

I'm not taking any more work this year.

CRAP !!
I will have to step up the pressure on the lathe that I have my eye on then.

Next item will be a Foredom and a right angle hand piece........... the list never ends !!


I have the foredom but never got the right angle hand piece.   Would like to have one but have not hot around to it.   Just so much money and to many wants.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 07, 2015, 12:27:44 pm

Just so much money and to many wants.

Right there with you !!!

I will probably have to save for a while, but I will get something better than my straight and rt angle pneumatic grinders
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 07, 2015, 03:25:23 pm

I'm not taking any more work this year.

CRAP !!
I will have to step up the pressure on the lathe that I have my eye on then.

Next item will be a Foredom and a right angle hand piece........... the list never ends !!
It will take me most of the rest of the year to finish most of what I. Here already. Got 3 saws of my own I want to do before I take any one else's stuff again.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 07, 2015, 05:12:57 pm
Well did some test cutting today with the Poulan 260.   42cc with some small modifications.
Cutting into some pine 8 1/2 by 8 1/2.   The pic is with the stock PS3 chain on it.
Lets just say that picco PS3 is fast chain and will be hard to beat.  I am not impressed with my modified chain.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 07, 2015, 07:37:31 pm

Lets just say that picco PS3 is fast chain and will be hard to beat.  I am not impressed with my modified chain.



I am humbled and have been humiliated by fresh PS and fresh PS3 .....more times than I care to admit........ makes me want to keep these bugger chains round !
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 07, 2015, 08:44:23 pm

Lets just say that picco PS3 is fast chain and will be hard to beat.  I am not impressed with my modified chain.


I am humbled and have been humiliated by fresh PS and fresh PS3 .....more times than I care to admit........ makes me want to keep these bugger chains round !

I think the person who can get this chain the sharpest will have the fastest times irrelevant to any other mods.   JMO.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on November 07, 2015, 10:35:52 pm
Gonna be interesting.  Waste spending time on chip channel clearance on this particular challenge IMO   not enough HP or chain speed... 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 07, 2015, 10:48:10 pm
I think you are right Adam.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on November 07, 2015, 11:10:10 pm
Interesting how much scuffing is apparent on the rivets after only a tank in hard wood!    ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 07, 2015, 11:41:48 pm
Any cheap recommendations for a chain saw to test my chain on
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2015, 08:38:12 am
Any cheap recommendations for a chain saw to test my chain on

poulan 2000 33cc, 2300 38cc,  2400, echo 400 3900 3450,  pp220 pp260, poulan wildthing  husky 338 339,  stihl 191 192 so many hard to make a small list.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 08, 2015, 08:43:07 am
Thanks for a partial list
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on November 08, 2015, 08:48:02 am
What's important is that you can find a bar for the saw that uses 3/8 LP X .050" X 45DL chain?

(http://ift.tt/1tGabM9)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 08, 2015, 08:55:04 am
So true
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2015, 09:08:01 am
So true

Do you have a 44dl or 45dl chain?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2015, 09:10:11 am
I have a 45dl on the echo 3900 but pretty sure it will take a 44dl as it is out all the way  on 44dl.

Now I did try to test a stihl 55dl the other day on a 56dl poulan bar and I couldnt get enough room to get the 1 link shorter on the 56 bar.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2015, 09:11:14 am
So many little poulans out there that run 3/8LP that can be had for a song.  They take 45dl with 12"
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2015, 09:14:04 am
Stihl 170 180 take 44dl with 12".  Just make sure not .043 as they come. I am modding some older bars that are 050 for the one I got in.

The stihl 12" Shep is sending me will get modded like the 14" I did for the stihl 180 thinking 33cc. I was thinking of comparing it with 12" to the bigger cc echo 39cc.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on November 08, 2015, 09:30:54 am
There is a whole lot to read here. I want to do a quick summary. I hope I got it right.
3/8 Lp or Picco as Stihl calls it.
.050 gauge
44 or 45 DL
Stihl 63ps or 63ps3
You can round file or square.
Race or work
Make sure you specify weather it is a race or work chain, and how you would like it used push on it, hold it out of the cut a bit.
Have to cut4fun by December 17th
On a side note CUT  what do you think about making a special badge for the winners of the chain build off?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2015, 09:51:19 am
There is a whole lot to read here. I want to do a quick summary. I hope I got it right.
3/8 Lp or Picco as Stihl calls it.
.050 gauge
44 or 45 DL
Stihl 63ps or 63ps3
You can round file or square.
Race or work
Make sure you specify weather it is a race or work chain, and how you would like it used push on it, hold it out of the cut a bit.
Have to cut4fun by December 17th
On a side note CUT  what do you think about making a special badge for the winners of the chain build off?

They will let me know if work or race. But I make final call if I see work listed early on that takes it from work to a race chain.

Yep the badge deal can be done.   Give me something to do this winter. Can make badge for the work and race chain winner.

Good idea. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 08, 2015, 11:41:40 am
A friend. Has a stihl 191 saw I have to buy the right bar probably.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 08, 2015, 12:17:13 pm
I took a 12" bar and cut it down alittle to fit a 44 dl Poulan.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2015, 01:17:07 pm
A friend. Has a stihl 191 saw I have to buy the right bar probably.

What drive link chain do you have?  Stihl will be 44dl.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2015, 01:18:30 pm
I took a 12" bar and cut it down alittle to fit a 44 dl Poulan.

I need to do that to a 56dl poulan bar so I can test these 55dl stihl chains when I do them. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2015, 01:20:59 pm
Our old dog = Lab having troubles getting up the deck steps and only getting worse with the colder weather.  Should see the rednecked ramp idea I did today LLOLL  :D

We didnt figure he would live to winter time. But glad for his sake he made it through summer.
He has been a good one.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on November 08, 2015, 02:41:58 pm
I didn't realize he was that old.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 08, 2015, 05:53:18 pm
I didn't realize he was that old.

Yep even his eye brows are grey now. Poor guy cant even get stood up sometimes.  Tumors everywhere too.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on November 08, 2015, 06:12:16 pm
That's too bad for he sure has been a great dog. He always buddy'd up to me so he could get some pats. I talked to him like he was my long lost friend.

I've seen other nice ones but as you once told me, they are not all that way.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on November 08, 2015, 07:02:59 pm
good dog is hard to find.

after my last dog died about 5 years ago, said no more after him.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on November 08, 2015, 07:09:24 pm
on another note, believe i ruined my cutters on one side of the chain a couple nights ago.  just going through the paces now to finish it up the best i can. 

skimming a bit off the rivets.  earlier tonight ....one side is now done, other not.  this was easier than some of the other ridiculous things i am trying.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 09, 2015, 07:02:57 am
If I get time, I am going to test my chains on my pole saw.

Otherwise, I wont have a bar or the time to do any testing



As far as the sharpest will win ............. not too sure on that.
Every picture posted has been pretty sharp.
I think this is going to be a three fold variable

1. Corner
2. Height
3. Force ............ as in "use the force", not pressure on the bar
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 10, 2015, 09:55:25 am
Back in town.

Parts to finish up guys 029 super here. Hope to get done early.

Then up to mend some chains to 45dl for this  1 stock PS and 1 stock PS3.  My 45dl PS to try and square file is ready and then break and mend a 70dl PS3 to 45dl to round file.

Then to find me some more 444 Marlin 265 gr FTX leverevolution local or I will have to order it so I have before Thanksgiving.
I hear buck are running my land like crazy right now.  Dad passed on 8pt 30yds in front of him.  Said he had like 4-5 bucks all around his stand. 
My brother said the 9pt was on the hill side at his back door area.   
Dad is still waiting out for the 15pt. But said he will take that 9pt asit has learned to empty the feeders.
I hope to just take ole slab. A old buck who's rack is going backwards. Down to a 7pt with a hugh thick body.

Pics of these deer are in the game thread. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 10, 2015, 10:19:59 am
Sorry to here about your dog cut 4 fun.  Not sure what we would do if our German shepherd was hurting like this
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 10, 2015, 10:28:31 am
Sorry to here about your dog cut 4 fun.  Not sure what we would do if our German shepherd was hurting like this

Shipping address was sent to you under username ChainBuildOff   

Trying to keep all the address stuff there as I have 1000's of PM's under this username.



Got back into town last night and he was hurting being out in the cold.  Wasnt paying attention and he tumbled down the steps backwards as he is still be hardheaded about using the ramp on his own.  All good now with him inside the warmth of the home.  = One spoiled dog.

This is our 3rd Lab to have to deal with this stuff so used to it.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 10, 2015, 12:19:44 pm
Ty
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 10, 2015, 05:46:13 pm
Dumb question do we get our chains back ?
Never done this before.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 10, 2015, 06:20:30 pm
Yeah you get it back unless they buy it from you.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 10, 2015, 07:25:16 pm
They buy last place chains
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 10, 2015, 07:57:52 pm
No Skippy, only those two wizzards need to worry about someone wanting their chains ................... the rest of us will get them back quickly
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 10, 2015, 08:18:23 pm
I never seen the 3120 chain I did after I mailed it off. It didn't hurt I had a 3120 then to test on.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 10, 2015, 08:37:23 pm
Yep you get chains back skippy. So make sure to include return address and PM return address.

Now keeping them organized to not mix other folks chains is always fun. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 10, 2015, 09:04:45 pm
Skip I was ask if my 3120 chain could be borrowed for a few months for some real events in stock saw racing.  It got 1st at both races and didnt test as fast as Mike's 3120 chain.

Those old chain test times are in this thread somewhere. I think mine was like 3rd in testing with stock 3120 and 9T
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 10, 2015, 09:09:56 pm
I forgot to ad that I did receive chain back afterwards.

I took that chain to a poulan gtg and they were cutting 10x10 for 1 cut times.  This one guy had a woods ported 475 with ported 505 83cc topend on it with round filed chain. My stock 475 was out cutting with me operating his saw too for him.
He kept filing on that chain for half the gtg it seemed till I could make a faster cut with his round and 83cc woods ported over my stock 77cc and square. I was just laughing inside at him. ;)
I think the last cut I was able to get his to be close to 1 tenth quicker 1 time cut. heck for all I know it could have been the wood changing.  ;D  Dont care though as he was chasing my time layed down early.  :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 11, 2015, 09:46:53 am
Happy veterans day to all of our services members !  From one member to another .
Thank you !
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 11, 2015, 09:50:21 am
Ok I hope my cuts a fast as yours !
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 11, 2015, 11:50:01 am
Ok I hope my cuts a fast as yours !

Stock WILL be faster then my POS I bet.

Never did get to the chains. Was fighting a 029 super yesterday making me use my brain.

Also I bumped up the Veterans Day thread.    Have you been in recently? 
One of the newer guys here in this build said he was a saw gunner.

I lived at a secret site in Turkey 110miles from USSR in 85-86.  Thread on it too.

Me on right, Turk solider on left with H&K 7.62 51mm if I remember right.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/CopyofTurkey-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 11, 2015, 12:08:35 pm
Yeah you get it back unless they buy it from you.

Can't see anyone really wanting a 45DL lo pro chain of any kind, for anything really..
Unless they racing pole saws out there somewhere..
Lol..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 11, 2015, 12:22:38 pm
Yeah you get it back unless they buy it from you.

Can't see anyone really wanting a 45DL lo pro chain of any kind, for anything really..
Unless they racing pole saws out there somewhere..
Lol..

Dont have to worry about me wanting any.    ::)

Now if we raced the bumblebees TH 40cc under and rear handle 40cc under like we used too in 8x8 2 cuts.  I might have been game for a good cutting square 45dl.   8)

But those days are long gone for me.  :P  We had to use modded semi chisel back then.  :'(
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 11, 2015, 06:56:02 pm
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/mdavl/1111151814_zpsz7a1g92t.jpg) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/mdavl/media/1111151814_zpsz7a1g92t.jpg.html)

(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/mdavl/1111151813_zpsqzubspkd.jpg) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/mdavl/media/1111151813_zpsqzubspkd.jpg.html)

(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/mdavl/1111151813a_zpsykip2fbq.jpg) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/mdavl/media/1111151813a_zpsykip2fbq.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 11, 2015, 07:01:05 pm
I see it watcha done there Mike. What I was thinking they needed too.  Not talking about removing the safety bumper either. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 11, 2015, 09:31:23 pm
I may just file the other one and send it as well. See if all That work was worthwhile
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 11, 2015, 10:25:27 pm
Looks good there Mike.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 11, 2015, 10:36:20 pm
Thanks.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on November 12, 2015, 07:12:14 am
Mike,
Where did you get that chain vise? It looks real nice and I maybe interested in one if they are available.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on November 12, 2015, 07:23:21 am
Looks good, Mike.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 12, 2015, 08:16:28 am
I think I'm correct its homelite410 made vise very very nice
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 12, 2015, 08:57:57 am
I may just file the other one and send it as well. See if all That work was worthwhile

Thats what I am thinking as well .............

I have something up my sleeve, I do have a MiniMac 120 with a short bar ........... gotta be close to the saw Cut will be running.

I just wish work would let me have the time I need to test, might have to run a few saws Thanksgiving Day and make any last minute changes after
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 12, 2015, 08:59:20 am
Looks good, Mike.

We need more inspiration SF............. post up some pictures of yours
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on November 12, 2015, 10:47:17 am
Don't have anything to show. Might get my chain next week.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 12, 2015, 11:34:10 am
I could post mine a lil later sf
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 12, 2015, 11:58:10 am
(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/mdavl/1111151814_zpsz7a1g92t.jpg) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/mdavl/media/1111151814_zpsz7a1g92t.jpg.html)

(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/mdavl/1111151813_zpsqzubspkd.jpg) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/mdavl/media/1111151813_zpsqzubspkd.jpg.html)

(http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/ww268/mdavl/1111151813a_zpsykip2fbq.jpg) (http://s726.photobucket.com/user/mdavl/media/1111151813a_zpsykip2fbq.jpg.html)
I like that 3rd pic..

I'm keeping a loop stock Mike.
We'll do some testing early December..
(-;
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 12, 2015, 12:04:18 pm

I like that 3rd pic..

I'm keeping a loop stock Mike.
We'll do some testing early December..
(-;
Yeah I hope I'll be back in time to head out there. Might get to stay 2 or 3 days if nothing else is going on. Might even have a saw of my own together and running by then LOL
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 12, 2015, 01:39:34 pm


Looks good, Mike.

We need more inspiration SF............. post up some pictures of yours


Feel free to post some as well Mopar.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 12, 2015, 02:19:53 pm

I like that 3rd pic..

I'm keeping a loop stock Mike.
We'll do some testing early December..
(-;
Yeah I hope I'll be back in time to head out there. Might get to stay 2 or 3 days if nothing else is going on. Might even have a saw of my own together and running by then LOL
That would be excellent.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on November 12, 2015, 08:39:35 pm
I think I'm correct its homelite410 made vise very very nice
Does he sell them? Is he a member here?
Thanks
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 12, 2015, 08:47:04 pm
Yes he sells these chain vices on all 3 of the sites . would a ms 200 t be like a completely   different  breed in the 35 cc class?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 12, 2015, 09:02:35 pm
200T will be a good one to test with. More r's out of wood and cant remember what mine held in wood.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 12, 2015, 09:04:00 pm
I think I'm correct its homelite410 made vise very very nice
Does he sell them? Is he a member here?
Thanks

Dave CCC has them on ebay for sale.  I think they came from Homelite410
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 12, 2015, 09:08:30 pm
So a 200t would be a good test saw
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 12, 2015, 09:11:25 pm
So a 200t would be a good test saw

Sighs. LOL Yes
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 13, 2015, 07:08:25 am

Feel free to post some as well Mopar.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 13, 2015, 07:50:10 am
Looks nice!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 13, 2015, 09:05:59 am

Feel free to post some as well Mopar.

Very nice!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 13, 2015, 09:29:08 am
Yes jmester mike sells them homelite410@gmail.com for the chain vise ok
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 13, 2015, 10:01:38 am
Thanks guys ............. but that chain cut wicked fast for two-three cuts, then it started falling fast

Too sharp with the cutting edges too thin
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 13, 2015, 10:16:17 am
I wondered if it was going to last or not.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on November 13, 2015, 12:23:31 pm
 :-[  still havent gotten them even put together yet. They are still taking the back seat.
Running out of time so I will have to make time soon. 33 or so  days to be in.

Working OT and getting others stuff out the door first.   
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 13, 2015, 04:36:03 pm
Thanks guys ............. but that chain cut wicked fast for two-three cuts, then it started falling fast

Too sharp with the cutting edges too thin
What wood were you testing in?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 13, 2015, 08:00:59 pm
Bosses orders  ::) :D.    grrrrrr  :-X after OT tomorrow I have to redneck the dog ramp to make the the slant less for him.   Need more wood now to make it longer with less slope going up. Then some furring stripes across, so he dont slip when wet as we noticed this.    :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on November 13, 2015, 08:57:23 pm
Do everything you can for that good ole boy.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 14, 2015, 06:55:25 am
Thanks guys ............. but that chain cut wicked fast for two-three cuts, then it started falling fast

Too sharp with the cutting edges too thin
What wood were you testing in?

Fresh weeping willow ............... I thought I saw a few pieces of tooth flying as soon as I hit it. Not sparks, but shiney flakes
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 14, 2015, 04:21:56 pm
Todays list. There is more but wont get to the oil change etc.

More weekend OT at work. So there is first 8hrs of day.  done

Then started in on re-rednecking ole dog ramp for winter. done

Pulled snowplow out and getting it ready.  done

Checking over new to me poulan I picked up.  somewhat looked at, dig in for real later

Then hopefully break down some chains and mend them for the chain build off.   drinking a big cup of coffee and going to try to get these puppies broke and done today
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 14, 2015, 05:33:39 pm
All done and only made one bonehead mistake. Went 44dl on 1 and I run 45dl chains. Fixed it though with 2 sets and dl. 
Thanks to  Moparmyway on those sets. As I used everyone of them.

Had 25dl and 35dl of PS3 left and 11dl of PS left.  So will piece me a 44dl for the 12" 180 bar or 55dl for friends 211 together later.  They run PM like to see what they think of PS3



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Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 15, 2015, 06:49:39 am
Got one done and I didn't touch the 2nd. Oh Well. Maybe I'll have time when I get home to beat the deadline.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 15, 2015, 09:42:02 am
Got one done and I didn't touch the 2nd. Oh Well. Maybe I'll have time when I get home to beat the deadline.

I'm not done done by a long shot. I havent even started to massacre my chain yet. 

I was just happy to get them broken and sized right.

The stock PS and PS3 are ready.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on November 15, 2015, 04:32:28 pm
My entry will be otb ps3

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 15, 2015, 08:13:02 pm
How are you getting that side cutter so tall ??
6 sided with the wide edge to the side ??
Or are you doing a 2 step fileing ?

That looks super clean and razor sharp !!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on November 15, 2015, 08:18:42 pm
Save Edge. I file down the side plate.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 16, 2015, 12:14:59 am
My entry will be otb ps3

I need to change where I get my chains.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: old guy on November 16, 2015, 09:05:42 am
That chain looks like PS not PS3?

   John
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 16, 2015, 09:20:02 am
My entry will be otb ps3



That chain looks like PS not PS3?

   John

I think he is trying to say that he likes PS3 off the roll (I am assuming OTB means out of the box).

___________________________________________________

Off the roll this PS3/PS is some serious wood cutting badazz chain.
Its tough to file it any better, but it can be done.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ChainBuildOff on November 16, 2015, 12:44:52 pm
To keep mailing addresses straight use this username  ChainBuildOff   if mailing. Thanks

Shaun I wont be available for awhile around Thanksgiving time at all. Family and deer gun season time  8) :P. 

Got a little time off and chainsaw stuff is not going to be on my mind.   ;):D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: old guy on November 16, 2015, 02:29:59 pm
Yeah, I have PS on 5 of my under 50cc saws and it brings out the grin factor.
  It is spendy tho.

   John
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 16, 2015, 07:09:59 pm
Yeah, I have PS on 5 of my under 50cc saws and it brings out the grin factor.
  It is spendy tho.

   John

Most good dealers can get you a 100 foot roll for about $325-$350. Same for mostly all Stihl chain on the roll
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on November 16, 2015, 07:56:14 pm
Stihl 44DL loop part #
PS - 3617 005 0044
PS3 - 3616 005 0044
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 16, 2015, 09:53:36 pm
Yeah, I have PS on 5 of my under 50cc saws and it brings out the grin factor.
  It is spendy tho.

   John
Worth every penny on dem baby saws John..
Good to hear from you.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: old guy on November 16, 2015, 11:28:48 pm
Hi Matt, haven't seen ya in awhile, when ya gonna get up this way again?

    John
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 16, 2015, 11:41:58 pm
Don't know.. But sure would like to come up for the races at T-dawgs this year.
I like racing saws in the snow..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on November 16, 2015, 11:49:08 pm
Don't know.. But sure would like to come up for the races at T-dawgs this year.
I like racing saws in the snow..

Did it for fun at a racing gtg in -6 one morning.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: HolmenTree on November 17, 2015, 01:10:33 am
Did it for fun at a racing gtg in -6 one morning.
55 below in my parts and I still have 30 competitors show up , running saws in the speed cut bare handed yet hahaha.
Great thread you guys have here....I'll have to take a couple of days off to read it all and maybe get involved.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 17, 2015, 07:11:25 am

Great thread you guys have here....I'll have to take a couple of days off to read it all and maybe get involved.



MAYBE ?!?!?!?!?!?!

Thats like sayin "I see a toilet, maybe I have to pizz"

There aint no maybe in this Sir ............. You ARE in, now just get your chain mailed on time so we can all see what a real squared up chain runs like and so we can hear how much longer Cut had to stand outside and freeze his nubbs off
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 17, 2015, 07:48:24 am
My buddy lent me a 191t stock but from what I'm reading . the saw  he said has 46.5 ccs is this right ?  Anybody know  please
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 17, 2015, 08:25:18 am
My buddy lent me a 191t stock but from what I'm reading . the saw  he said has 46.5 ccs is this right ?  Anybody know  please

Skippy, just test with a mini mac ............. thats what I am doing
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 17, 2015, 09:35:49 am
Yes any stock saw 45cc and under should give you a idea on how your chain cuts skippy.  Even the 191t.

Skippy I dont plan on even testing my chain after filing.

I want to see if I can make a chain slower then stock from the get go with no testing.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 17, 2015, 09:57:14 am
Ok
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: HolmenTree on November 17, 2015, 12:19:33 pm
I'll try my best. Looks like winter is officially on it way now so late into November, workshop will get some attention now for the coming months.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 17, 2015, 12:29:46 pm
I'll try my best. Looks like winter is officially on it way now so late into November, workshop will get some attention now for the coming months.



You going to do up a PS PS3 and send in?   8)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 17, 2015, 02:03:10 pm

55 below in my parts and I still have 30 competitors show up , running saws in the speed cut bare handed yet hahaha.
Great thread you guys have here....I'll have to take a couple of days off to read it all and maybe get involved.


55below?
Must be Celsius..
You crazy Canadians...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: HolmenTree on November 17, 2015, 07:51:28 pm
Yep -55 Celcius equals -67 F

Kevin I have lots of 63PS. Just don't have a lot of spare time .
I'm taking the family on a week long holiday  in about a week's time  (27th). Presently winding down the tree service for the winter.  3 kids with lots of activities .
Is there a deadline date?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 17, 2015, 07:57:26 pm
Yep -55 Celcius equals -67 F

Kevin I have lots of 63PS. Just don't have a lot of spare time .
I'm taking the family on a week long holiday  in about a week's time  (27th). Presently winding down the tree service for the winter.  3 kids with lots of activities .
Is there a deadline date?

RECEIVED NO LATER THEN DEC 17TH 2015 AT 8PM  and then tested possibly during week before Christmas day or after Jan 1st
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: HolmenTree on November 17, 2015, 09:23:12 pm
Perfect
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 18, 2015, 06:52:30 am
I'll try my best.



Awesome !!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: HolmenTree on November 18, 2015, 09:40:56 am
Last night I got as far as page 30.  ;D
Sounds like with the little Echo my chain will need to have a light touch in the kerf. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 20, 2015, 12:53:52 am
Chain #2 got a little bloody tonight.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 20, 2015, 12:34:03 pm
Chain #2 got a little bloody tonight.

 :D :P

I had one like that in the 3ci chain build off.  POS#2 I believe I called it.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 20, 2015, 12:52:45 pm
Chain #2 got a little bloody tonight.

You know it's sharp.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on November 20, 2015, 04:16:29 pm
"You know it's sharp" or there's a knucklehead (like me) with sweaty palms doing the filing
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 20, 2015, 05:36:04 pm
Well I am done with my square filed chain.   I ground it first and compared it to a stock chain and was dissappointed with the results, so I have hand filed it now.   Need to clean it up and do one more test cut.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on November 20, 2015, 06:25:27 pm
Well I am done with my square filed chain.   I ground it first and compared it to a stock chain and was dissappointed with the results, so I have hand filed it now.   Need to clean it up and do one more test cut.
Do you attribute your as ground disappointment due to angle difference created by the chain being a Pico or Low Profile 3/8 ths pitch chain rather than being your usual regular 3/8 ths chain?

My experience with this was that the angle underneath the horizontal part of the tooth was more blunt than I desired.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 20, 2015, 06:49:23 pm
@660magnum Jim was you going to enter a chain to test out? 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on November 20, 2015, 06:51:16 pm
I don't have any lo-pro chains or saws that use them but I can square grind one if needed.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on November 20, 2015, 07:52:55 pm
Got my chains today. I will work on them tomorrow. Cut are we shipping them to you when we have them done or is there a date you want them shipped. Jim i just got 2 of them was going to do a round and square but would like for you to compete. I will send you one if you would be interested. I will just butcher up a good chain anyway trying to square file. But it is all for fun.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 20, 2015, 08:31:46 pm
I don't think I'll have time to do the 2nd one. Oh well one might be all I need to get embarrassed with
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 20, 2015, 08:33:01 pm
Send anytime you like when finished.

Jim I was going to do a square PS and round PS3. I also have a stock PS to compare all too and a PS3 stock was going to be run too.   
If you want one of the PS3 to square up for yourself let me know and I will just keep a PS for stock chain.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 20, 2015, 09:04:03 pm
Well I am done with my square filed chain.   I ground it first and compared it to a stock chain and was dissappointed with the results, so I have hand filed it now.   Need to clean it up and do one more test cut.
Do you attribute your as ground disappointment due to angle difference created by the chain being a Pico or Low Profile 3/8 ths pitch chain rather than being your usual regular 3/8 ths chain?

My experience with this was that the angle underneath the horizontal part of the tooth was more blunt than I desired.


Yes I believe the angles can be made sharper with hand filing.   My hand filing is not to good either and could have been a waste of my time.   But this is a learning process and never really doing a race chain before it really is experimental for me.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 20, 2015, 09:16:08 pm
All about learning and fun IMO Roger.   

So your chain or chains falling in the race or work category?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 20, 2015, 09:29:21 pm
All about learning and fun IMO Roger.   

So your chain or chains falling in the race or work category?

Only doing one chain.   Race category.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on November 21, 2015, 04:27:53 am
I'll go along with what ever you guys want me to do as far as doing one on the grinder.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 21, 2015, 08:40:32 am
I'll go along with what ever you guys want me to do as far as doing one on the grinder.

Jim just say the word and I will drop one off  before Thurs.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on November 21, 2015, 09:03:40 am
Or I can come over there
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 21, 2015, 09:52:19 am
Or I can come over there

Dont matter to me, if you like. I'm planning on being here all day.

Washing hunting clothes, cleaning gun etc. Plus I have  saws to work on. 2 for other folks.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on November 21, 2015, 10:20:10 am
I'm cooking dinner right now I'll come over after lunch
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 21, 2015, 01:52:57 pm
I'm cooking dinner right now I'll come over after lunch

Another entry. Jim

Good luck with chain.  new PS3 45dl
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on November 27, 2015, 05:07:26 pm
one ....is in the mail.

(should of sent it to the garbage bin).....(along with the other one.  hahahaha.

good luck everyone.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 27, 2015, 06:15:03 pm
Looks good there 1manband.    I have one done also.   Just need to package it up.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 28, 2015, 01:18:24 pm
I  thought mine was ready ........... looks like I might need to dull it a little
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 28, 2015, 01:47:40 pm
I  thought mine was ready ........... looks like I might need to dull it a little
Some good size chip there.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on November 28, 2015, 03:37:14 pm
I made up aggressive chains that took a bigger saw to pull them.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on November 28, 2015, 04:25:08 pm
I  thought mine was ready ........... looks like I might need to dull it a little
Nice chips.. Did a little saw like to clear them? I'm getting ok gains on a stock oe346, but earning the last place ribbon with my 37cc test mule. Lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 28, 2015, 04:47:24 pm
OK, OK ................... those are from my square .404 on one of my 90cc saws


LoPro couldnt throw chips that size no matter what profile or what powerhead it is on.

Some of those chips are 1/3 the size of the quarter

My LoPro isnt finished yet, doubtfull on a race LoPro ......... probably just work chains.

No testing yet SF, but when I do test, it will be with a MiniMac
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 28, 2015, 04:56:30 pm
I thought it looked the same as the  one on anothersite. Good job rotating the pic.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 28, 2015, 04:57:14 pm
You **** me up with the chip pictures.   I laughed when you came clean.   That was a good one.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 29, 2015, 04:25:13 am
 ;D

1/2 of the fun of a chain race is the smack talking .............. I had to get some in !!!

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 29, 2015, 08:34:50 am
I just hope to not finish last on this one. I hope the echo will pull it.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 29, 2015, 11:31:30 am
We are all hoping for the same thing !!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 29, 2015, 11:37:44 am
I cant talk smack. Some folks have such thin skin and like to let their imagination run wild.  :D LOL  :D

I havent even started one and need to take 30mins and try and square file something. Then 15mins and try to round file one.  Just hoping mine  aint slower then stock. Because that would just be  :-[


 :P :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 29, 2015, 01:51:08 pm


I cant talk smack. Some folks have such thin skin and like to let their imagination run wild.  :D LOL  :D

I havent even started one and need to take 30mins and try and square file something. Then 15mins and try to round file one.  Just hoping mine  aint slower then stock. Because that would just be  :-[


  :D :D :D :D :D :D


Don't worry I've got your chain done.


Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 29, 2015, 07:10:22 pm
Dang

LOL I cant talk smack because I cant back it up filing.

Shot pistols, rifles, shotguns, muzzleloaders today with dad, bro and my son. Good times to remember.

My bro now has 3 full size silhouettes that can handle the 50 BMG round. Set up at 85 115 130yds
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on November 29, 2015, 07:19:04 pm
I'm just going to send me chain untested
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on November 29, 2015, 08:00:47 pm
Can any modifications be done and still be concidered a work chain? Wanting to send one of each.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 29, 2015, 08:46:59 pm
Things that will separate race from work chain IMO.

Race

Thinned cutters
Stoned cutters
Thinned or reshaped small rakers
Tunneling under cutter
Cut off back of cutters heels etc or angled back of cutter
Grinding or polishing work on rivets
Dog boning
Work on top of inner drive link area ( dont know if most of you do or know about this )
Beveled edges


Im sure there is more but my mind is tired right now.  If you can add to list please do. 

Just want the work chain to be work chain for the guys doing work.

Shaun anything I see that should be on a racechain on a work chain gets it in race chain category.

Now you know you can square file a good work chain and it dont need nothing else. Been there. ;) Guys at racing gtg's couldnt tell that chain from a work chain.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 29, 2015, 08:49:01 pm
I'm just going to send me chain untested

Me too. I aint testing crap.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 29, 2015, 08:57:25 pm
Setting on stand today I was thinking about username  bushweasel and loaning him my partner 5000 on pipe to take to SC. He got 2nd with that saw in 3ci pipe class. 

I loaned my 4ci 5ci 6ci open gas saws out being I wasnt going to SC for over the wood racing. They took 1st in all classes in SC.  plaques hanging at the shop of the person I loaned my saws to.

Any how what this was about was Jason's chain. I wasnt giving him my 3ci chains. he had his own and that chain was so hungry I couldnt make a good pass with it. It was self feeding and just sucked itself through the wood.

If there is enough wood I am thinking should try 3 cuts and throw out the slowest cut and just keep the fastest 2. That way the 1st cut can get a feel for the chain or if I try and push a chain to far later thinking it could do it and it didnt. Sound good?

We going by the average of the 2 cuts to call the fastest in each class like we done before right? Not just a fastest 1 time.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on November 29, 2015, 09:03:04 pm
I agree, if the cutter ain't good for the saw the extra work don't help.

3 cut is a great idea, so u get a feel and those pine knots can kill a time.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 29, 2015, 09:13:14 pm
I dont plan on hitting a knot or cutting close to them. But if you like I could make sure yours is right in the middle of them to give us all a handicap type deal. ;)

When I get to knots they will be removed to next clean section.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on November 29, 2015, 09:18:40 pm


Setting on stand today I was thinking about username  bushweasel and loaning him my partner 5000 on pipe to take to SC. He got 2nd with that saw in 3ci pipe class. 

I loaned my 4ci 5ci 6ci open gas saws out being I wasnt going to SC for over the wood racing. They took 1st in all classes in SC.  plaques hanging at the shop of the person I loaned my saws to.

Any how what this was about was Jason's chain. I wasnt giving him my 3ci chains. he had his own and that chain was so hungry I couldnt make a good pass with it. It was self feeding and just sucked itself through the wood.

If there is enough wood I am thinking should try 3 cuts and throw out the slowest cut and just keep the fastest 2. That way the 1st cut can get a feel for the chain or if I try and push a chain to far later thinking it could do it and it didnt. Sound good?

We going by the average of the 2 cuts to call the fastest in each class like we done before right? Not just a fastest 1 time.


So 3 cuts, and average the top 2? Sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 29, 2015, 09:58:20 pm
Sounds good to me Kevin.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on November 30, 2015, 08:55:47 am
Dang

LOL I cant talk smack because I cant back it up filing.


OH craaap !!
Maybe I better shuddup then !!!!


I couldnt care if you did 5 cuts and throw out the slowest 4 !!
BUT if you make 6 cuts, I might need to resharpen muh rusty chain   ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 30, 2015, 11:25:34 am
I got deer to process when I get back, 2 doe so far.  I might never get a chain filed.   :-X  :P Me and the wife do all our own processing right down to the grinding etc. 

Man you ought to see what a 265gr FTX does. I about crapped when I seen the bullet hit the shoulder area.  :o :o :o

My brother the gun dealer that does the big guns ( like 50BMG etc) looked at it and was like WTH that aint right.  ::)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 30, 2015, 07:45:23 pm
3 of my cutters that have ruined 2 files so far have been round filed...
It's a hybrid now..
I think I'll leave it that way.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 30, 2015, 08:19:50 pm
I got deer to process when I get back, 2 doe so far.  I might never get a chain filed.   :-X  :P Me and the wife do all our own processing right down to the grinding etc. 

Man you ought to see what a 265gr FTX does. I about crapped when I seen the bullet hit the shoulder area.  :o :o :o

My brother the gun dealer that does the big guns ( like 50BMG etc) looked at it and was like WTH that aint right.  ::)


265 gr bullet.   Shoot your average 30-06 round is 150.   My 25-06 is around 130 gr.   
I bet that shoulder area is obliterated.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on November 30, 2015, 08:23:21 pm

3 of my cutters that have ruined 2 files so far have been round filed...
It's a hybrid now..
I think I'll leave it that way.
If I have a cutter that skips I round file it first. No reason to kill a $7 file over a $15 chain.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on November 30, 2015, 08:41:08 pm
Anybody have videos? If y'alls interested mine are done.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 30, 2015, 10:11:45 pm

3 of my cutters that have ruined 2 files so far have been round filed...
It's a hybrid now..
I think I'll leave it that way.
If I have a cutter that skips I round file it first. No reason to kill a $7 file over a $15 chain.
Was trying to keep the cutters the same length..
Screw it...
Lol..
I figure 3 round cutters will be fine..
You gonna get out of the DOminican soon enough to get out here for a steak?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on November 30, 2015, 10:48:15 pm
Anybody have videos? If y'alls interested mine are done.
Heck no...
Gotta buy a 12" bar for that..

Who the hell has a 12" bar???

What the hell does one use a 12" bar for???
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 01, 2015, 07:43:51 am
Anybody have videos? If y'alls interested mine are done.
Heck no...
Gotta buy a 12" bar for that..

Who the hell has a 12" bar???

What the hell does one use a 12" bar for???

Lol. I had to barrow a p.h. and a b&c.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 01, 2015, 08:45:48 am
I got deer to process when I get back, 2 doe so far.  I might never get a chain filed.   :-X  :P Me and the wife do all our own processing right down to the grinding etc. 

Man you ought to see what a 265gr FTX does. I about crapped when I seen the bullet hit the shoulder area.  :o :o :o

My brother the gun dealer that does the big guns ( like 50BMG etc) looked at it and was like WTH that aint right.  ::)


265 gr bullet.   Shoot your average 30-06 round is 150.   My 25-06 is around 130 gr.   
I bet that shoulder area is obliterated.

I will try and take a pic of the area and show you privately Roger.  Like my brother that shoots all the new biggest guns said when he seen it. That just isnt right.
When I was gutting her the whole inside was a mess from the shock. I think what happen was. She was sort of angle facing me. So I put it right on her right shoulder to angle back to the heart lungs on left angling back. I think the bullet hit soild bone there and just did it job with that polymer tip and hollow point.

When I lived in MT 83-85 I used 180gr 30/06 for bear hunting. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 01, 2015, 08:53:26 am
Anybody have videos? If y'alls interested mine are done.

Got any tested on stock 35cc-40cc and then a stock OE 46cc 346?  I know my past echo 45cc was just like the 346 OE stock for stock.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 01, 2015, 10:41:01 am
No videos of oe346. I deleted them. I was rapidly going backwards on 37cc and put them on 45cc to see wth was going on. This was a fun and frustrating learning experience.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 01, 2015, 12:14:26 pm

3 of my cutters that have ruined 2 files so far have been round filed...
It's a hybrid now..
I think I'll leave it that way.
If I have a cutter that skips I round file it first. No reason to kill a $7 file over a $15 chain.
Was trying to keep the cutters the same length..
Screw it...
Lol..
I figure 3 round cutters will be fine..
You gonna get out of the DOminican soon enough to get out here for a steak?
Not sure yet. They keep adding more work. We never know when they'll say stop and do it next year or run til it blows. Good steak would be nice.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 01, 2015, 04:32:49 pm
Man you should see all this surf dad just sent home with. His retired Navy friend that owns land up from my place.  Some turf too in baby back ribs 2 full sets.

Dont even have a clue how to cook all this fish stuff from the ocean I guess from the state of Washington area.

Never seen tuna loin before. Reminds me of a pork loin looking at it through a vacuum pack.  Would this be from the blue tuna? 

@EHP

There was steelhead, halibut and about 5 others I would have to go look the names written on them.



Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 01, 2015, 04:37:53 pm
By the way I am back a day early due to weather.  If any locals want to drop chains off instead of shipping.

There was a few boxes here waiting on me with chains.  Not opened yet. Busy right now. 
On a coffee break getting ready to go move crap in the barn to hang some  future jerky up.  Then the real work begins.
Oh dragging one of them out of the bottom of the ravine of 2 hills was work for this fat boy too.   Boy she made me earn that jerky on her.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 01, 2015, 04:42:52 pm
Thinking these are the only locals I know that said they were in this.

@DexterDay  @660magnum  @SquareFile

Just read above I am back for now even though very busy.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 01, 2015, 05:32:12 pm
Man you should see all this surf dad just sent home with. His retired Navy friend that owns land up from my place.  Some turf too in baby back ribs 2 full sets.

Dont even have a clue how to cook all this fish stuff from the ocean I guess from the state of Washington area.

Never seen tuna loin before. Reminds me of a pork loin looking at it through a vacuum pack.  Would this be from the blue tuna? 

@EHP

There was steelhead, halibut and about 5 others I would have to go look the names written on them.





On the fish..
Use the grill, not the deep fryer.
Also, don't wait till it falls apart to pull it.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 01, 2015, 06:45:34 pm
I was rapidly going backwards on 37cc and put them on 45cc to see wth was going on. This was a fun and frustrating learning experience.

You can say that again !
the 33cc stocker was getting slower and slower ............... the ported 33cc picked up good though
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 01, 2015, 07:46:20 pm
Pine 8x8, well seasoned. I don't know if that hurt or helped. These chains and test were done the same day. My original goals were much higher, but after negative gains the week before I'm pleased. One thing I noticed when running the saw is each step I did it got much smoother and self fed better.

 Stihl lo pro chain chisel on small saws is nice chain.

First cut OTB ps3 then ps round filed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YToj8jGTaeo

Then I bevel filed the ps3 chain for my work chain entry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tKOWV3IMg0

First two cuts is the previous chain then the ps chain I bevel filed and removed junk.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tKOWV3IMg0
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 01, 2015, 08:01:20 pm
Thinking these are the only locals I know that said they were in this.

@DexterDay  @660magnum  @SquareFile

Just read above I am back for now even though very busy.
I'm probably gonna need your address.

I was rapidly going backwards on 37cc and put them on 45cc to see wth was going on. This was a fun and frustrating learning experience.

You can say that again !
the 33cc stocker was getting slower and slower ............... the ported 33cc picked up good though
I chuckled at that. Not that its ported, but I just don't see post of small saws being ported.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 01, 2015, 08:10:20 pm
Sweet SF.   Is that a redmax 3800? 

If so I like those saws or is it the newer strato redmax?

Shaun PM me at username chainbuildoff so I remember to send mailing address.   I check it once a day usually.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 01, 2015, 08:11:47 pm
Grill all the fish?   Some are bare fillets some are with skin and some whole just gutted.

This was half full. Dad had 2 of them full when he got them. Guessing 4'  or so long.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Deer%20Cam/2015does%20024_zpsgoko0x7o.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Deer%20Cam/2015does%20024_zpsgoko0x7o.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 01, 2015, 08:18:40 pm
Sweet SF.   Is that a redmax 3800? 

If so I like those saws or is it the newer strato redmax?

Shaun PM me at username chainbuildoff so I remember to send mailing address.   I check it once a day usually.
Its 37cc. I think its a 4000? It was loading up good on my benoil at 32:1. Lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 01, 2015, 08:27:39 pm
Redmax 4000 is a strato 40cc. redmax 3800 38cc

4000 40.1cc and 2.4 hp Strato-Charged

3800 38cc if I remember right.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 01, 2015, 08:48:32 pm
Its a 3800, 37.2cc. Shows how much I paid attention. I think my oil sandbaged it.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 01, 2015, 09:05:44 pm
Its a 3800, 37.2cc. Shows how much I paid attention. I think my oil sandbaged it.

I like those little guys. Come to life ported too.   

Used one for 40cc under rear handle class. Wish I had this chain back then. Still me and another friend from Indiana took 1st and 2nd with it at the racing gtg.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 01, 2015, 09:07:54 pm
Oregon VX semi on ported 3800

https://youtu.be/DYmgZBu1Ga0
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 01, 2015, 09:22:07 pm
ported 3800 v/s the ported 400 4000 about 5 years ago at racing gtg with semi chain.  Bills gtg when it was like -6

We had a TH class too and I ran a stock solo 637. couldn't even get through the wood with my 12"  :P  It would reach through but I wasnt paying attention as I got bored.  :D

Just noticed a bunch of saws ran wasnt on the video.  ???

https://youtu.be/cC5P0FXJ10c
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2015, 09:22:10 am
I cant remember was Mike in on this?  I know he likes this chain and uses it.  @rms61moparman
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 02, 2015, 09:34:41 am
Thinking these are the only locals I know that said they were in this.

@DexterDay  @660magnum  @SquareFile

Just read above I am back for now even though very busy.
I'm probably gonna need your address.

I was rapidly going backwards on 37cc and put them on 45cc to see wth was going on. This was a fun and frustrating learning experience.

You can say that again !
the 33cc stocker was getting slower and slower ............... the ported 33cc picked up good though
I chuckled at that. Not that its ported, but I just don't see post of small saws being ported.

I try to keep it low profile .......... but it definately hauls the mail for 33cc
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2015, 09:56:37 am
Since I cant get nobody to file me a chain  :'(. If someone will come over and skin these deer and start butchering them out today for me. I will try and file a chain while you skin them out.  ;D :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2015, 09:58:31 am
Its a 3800  I think my oil sandbaged it.

I ran 32:1 Klotz KL-200 in the ported one. 

The one you tested with was stock right? No muffler mod either?  The mufflers are plugged up on them bad.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2015, 10:42:09 am
Can you guys handle blown up deer meat  :o and not turn all PETA on me.  :P

If no one objects I can show you what this new to me gun in 444 marlin with 265gr FTX does when it hits bone.   :-X

http://www.hornady.com/store/444-Marlin-265-gr-FTX-LEVERevolution/
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 02, 2015, 11:20:44 am
Its a 3800  I think my oil sandbaged it.

I ran 32:1 Klotz KL-200 in the ported one. 

The one you tested with was stock right? No muffler mod either?  The mufflers are plugged up on them bad.

As far as I know its stock. But I didn't even know the model. Lol. Just seen the cc
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2015, 03:24:45 pm
Did you guys see that video of stock 362 c and then ported 362c comparisons.   I didnt want to say anything there but IMO that ported 362 is still lacking.   :o

I would put my completely stock poulan 415 no muffler mod or anything against that ported 362 in the 20" wood he was cutting.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 02, 2015, 04:00:55 pm
Did you guys see that video of stock 362 c and then ported 362c comparisons.   I didnt want to say anything there but IMO that ported 362 is still lacking.   :o

I would put my completely stock poulan 415 no muffler mod or anything against that ported 362 in the 20" wood he was cutting.
I seen it. I like the two 262xp's getting beat by three 346's in decent size wood better. Especially the oe running .325
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2015, 04:11:27 pm
Did you guys see that video of stock 362 c and then ported 362c comparisons.   I didnt want to say anything there but IMO that ported 362 is still lacking.   :o

I would put my completely stock poulan 415 no muffler mod or anything against that ported 362 in the 20" wood he was cutting.
I seen it. I like the two 262xp's getting beat by three 346's in decent size wood better. Especially the oe running .325

LOL you aint drinking the Kool-Aid anymore  :P.  Now you know what I mean when I run some of these saws and say I aint impressed. ;)

But hey they just keep throwing $350 away for little gains.   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2015, 04:57:39 pm
Taking a break from the deer till tomorrow. 

Opened a couple chain boxes.  Just glanced over them but if they cut as good as they look 8).  I'm last for sure. 
Race and work.

The work square and the round look just like what I had in mind for mine.   ;) :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 02, 2015, 06:23:59 pm
I need to get mine mailed out. Which user name do I need to pm for the address?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2015, 07:56:42 pm
I need to get mine mailed out. Which user name do I need to pm for the address?

chainbuildoff   that way I can keep all addys in one area. I'm easily confused now days. LOL
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on December 02, 2015, 08:53:49 pm
I need to get on it. Got the chain just haven't taken the time .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on December 02, 2015, 08:56:58 pm
Cut did you get my chains.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2015, 09:10:22 pm
Cut did you get my chains.

Yep nice.  I just glanced at them through package. I hope mine look as nice.  Yours look like what I want on my two.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 02, 2015, 09:11:20 pm
I need to get on it. Got the chain just haven't taken the time .

Me either Al.  Now I still got to finish 2 deer and rebuild this JB350.  :'(
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 03, 2015, 07:31:57 am
Pics of the deer ............. I dont mind and I wont call peta
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on December 03, 2015, 07:53:11 am
Wow I did not expect to hear that from you. Thanks. Hope they cut
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2015, 11:48:43 am
Pics of the deer ............. I dont mind and I wont call peta

LOL it was just to show what the 444 marlin 265 ftx did on entry hitting shoulder. What I seen through scope was unreal on this poor doe.
She was one we called the single doe. She had no little ones with her and figure unbred, sterile or something from prior season.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2015, 12:11:57 pm
hung behind dad rough sawn oak barn to wash out.

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/12316178_10153210606478144_3139845703686721528_n.jpg?oh=bb1a93582ea44a5b3d746262b9a0536d&oe=565F4CAD)

back up at my place. had to trim them down to fit in back of envoy. didnt drive truck with all my gear = no cap.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Deer%20Cam/2015does%20022_zpsq6qyvvfk.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Deer%20Cam/2015does%20022_zpsq6qyvvfk.jpg.html)

entry

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exit hole and tried to get both shown at once.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/Deer%20Cam/skinneddeers15%20004_zps5eeueqde.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/Deer%20Cam/skinneddeers15%20004_zps5eeueqde.jpg.html)
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entry

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Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 03, 2015, 01:20:48 pm
She weren't running after that one..
Brutal..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2015, 02:08:04 pm
She weren't running after that one..
Brutal..

Right where I shot her was the path straight down to the ravine between the 2 hills. Yep right at the bottom she went and either had to drag her up a steep steep hill or drag her to the opening at the end of the 2 hills.  I went with dragging between the hills.  Had to move small trees along the way that had fallen across. She made it real fun.  :-X :-\ :'(

Even had a 4x4 atv with winch and it was no go till I got her to the opening.

IF I had to do it again I would have neck shot her.  Did that once to a buck 90yds with 50cal ML. Drops like a sack of potatoes.
I just dont know this 444 that well yet to know what shots I can make with it. I know my 50cal ML I could do such.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on December 03, 2015, 03:49:11 pm
Gnarly!!! Not easy on meat, but certainly no chasing wounded animals.  Use a 45-70 for hogs out here, slow, heavy bullet does the trick!!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2015, 04:04:16 pm
Gnarly!!! Not easy on meat, but certainly no chasing wounded animals.  Use a 45-70 for hogs out here, slow, heavy bullet does the trick!!!

If I was ready to handload this stuff I would have went with 45-70 when I bought this 444 marlin.
Now I see we can use 450 marlin and 500S&W.

This ammo here is why I went for 444 out of the box  http://www.hornady.com/store/444-Marlin-265-gr-FTX-LEVERevolution/

Muzzle    100    200    300
fps2325/ftlbs3180    1971/2285    1652/1606    1380/1120
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 03, 2015, 07:52:01 pm
I reload for the 45-70 Marlin guide gun.    350 gr bullet at 1950 FPS muzzle velocity.  I also have a Browning high wall in 45-70.   Can load that one alittle hotter if desired.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 03, 2015, 09:08:05 pm
@spencerpaving said it dont look like he is going to be able to send a chain in. Been tied to making pipes.   

Whew dodged a bullet on that one.  ;)

Maybe next time.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 04, 2015, 12:48:50 pm
I dont know what it is but I love the words to this song. Pretty much sums up this site and folks in this build I think.

Welcome to our Redneck paradise right here

https://youtu.be/__HPfmvaWRw
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 04, 2015, 01:01:57 pm
Hmmmmmm  :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 04, 2015, 06:31:05 pm
I sent my chain off today.  It was funny, the lady at the post office was wondering about the name,
Kevin Chainbuildoff.    I explained to her that it was a chainsaw chain competition.
She did wish me luck.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 04, 2015, 06:52:39 pm
Shipped mine today also. Trackings says monday
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 04, 2015, 07:09:18 pm
Cool Shaun, I was needing some more sharp chains the finish cutting up these deer carcasses.   ;D ;)

You forgot the middle name Roger, 

Kevin Cull Chainbuildoff  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on December 04, 2015, 07:26:56 pm
Kev, I've been using the 45-70 version of that Hornady ballistic to tip and it works well
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on December 04, 2015, 08:28:49 pm
Not to skew of the chain but I just learned something today .For years Ohio has had a pistol thing for deer hunting which I personally thought was stupid .At it's onset it specified 357 or 44 maq.I thought that's nuts because they make rifles in those sizes also .Pistols you get a chance of just wounded deer .Hell I'd be lucky to hit Lake Erie I were in a row boat with a pistol .

Much to my surprise that has been upgraded to any non shouldered rifle round ,such as the 45-70 .You could use a Quigly down under 45-95 if you wanted to .I think it even listed a 50-110 .My heavens that old buffalo gun could drop an elephant .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 04, 2015, 08:41:37 pm
Not to skew of the chain but I just learned something today .For years Ohio has had a pistol thing for deer hunting which I personally thought was stupid .At it's onset it specified 357 or 44 maq.I thought that's nuts because they make rifles in those sizes also .Pistols you get a chance of just wounded deer .Hell I'd be lucky to hit Lake Erie I were in a row boat with a pistol .

Much to my surprise that has been upgraded to any non shouldered rifle round ,such as the 45-70 .You could use a Quigly down under 45-95 if you wanted to .I think it even listed a 50-110 .My heavens that old buffalo gun could drop an elephant .

No necked down rifles. Only straight walled.

Rifles allowed
.357 Magnum, .357 Maximum, .38 Special, .375 Super Magnum, .375 Winchester, .38-55, .41 Long Colt, .41 Magnum, .44 Special, .44 Magnum, .444 Marlin, .45 ACP, .45 Colt, .45 Long Colt, .45 Winchester Magnum, .45 Smith & Wesson, .450 Marlin, .454 Casull, .460 Smith & Wesson, .45-70, .45-90, .45-110, .475 Linebaugh, .50-70, .50-90, .50-100, .50-110, and .500 Smith & Wesson.

pistols allowed anything with 5-inch minimum length barrel, using straight-walled cartridges .357 caliber or larger.
My friend used a 10mm rock armory I think was make.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on December 05, 2015, 08:23:41 pm
   I filed on my chain entry a little bit today. We're gonna run 'em this weekend at Matt's before sending, see if they hold up in some of that hard yellow wood!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 06, 2015, 07:12:01 am
I did some work on mine ...............

Shoot - hit just ONE  mutha-scratchin  rivet and had to throw the file away  >:(
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 06, 2015, 09:44:02 am
I know why I gave up square filing by hand with no guide  :'(. I am blind as a bat and cant see the corner with or without my glasses.  :-[     

Dont have the huge magnifying glass like others use either. ;)

Wasnt even done with 2nd cutter and drew blood.  :-X 

 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 06, 2015, 10:06:32 am
I should have mine mailed this week.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 07, 2015, 08:02:31 am
I still don't have a bar.
May have to just go buy one.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 07, 2015, 11:53:11 am
I didnt test mine. It's in the mail now.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 07, 2015, 02:58:18 pm
I didnt test mine. It's in the mail now.

I'll probably have to UPS mine to get it to Ohio in time.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2015, 05:23:02 pm
I didnt test mine. It's in the mail now.

I'll probably have to UPS mine to get it to Ohio in time.

Just use USPS Priority. $5.95
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2015, 05:23:42 pm
Your box is here Shaun.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2015, 05:29:01 pm
I found my samurai cut resistant gloves  ;D and gave it another try.  Sad part was on the left side it finally clicked in the brain on the last 2 cutters.  :P

Then my dumazz loosened the vise and forgot to hold saw and the bottom cutters dragged across the metal vise as it fell to the bench  :-[. Dont look like any tank damage. But SOB I hate getting older and forgetting to do chit.   :'(

So I will look at it later as I walked away and hopefully be able to straighten stuff up and go through them again just in case.  ::)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 07, 2015, 05:59:06 pm
Your box is here Shaun.
Did they chew thru the 304 stainless box I sent them in? ;)

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2015, 06:15:33 pm
Your box is here Shaun.
Did they chew thru the 304 stainless box I sent them in? ;)



Never opened yet. Been busy. Just threw on the pool table with the rest.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 07, 2015, 08:11:45 pm
Whats the chances of the week and half I am off during Christmas being this sweeeeeet weather?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 07, 2015, 10:43:02 pm
Now Kevin you know it does not work that way.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 07, 2015, 11:18:46 pm


I'll probably have to UPS mine to get it to Ohio in time.

Just use USPS Priority. $5.95

Thats how mine will travel ........... I have a PS squared that just got their rakers lowered, and a PS3 squared .......... both work chains ready to travel.

I will send at least 1, possibly 2 round filed ones too ...................... time flies !!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 07, 2015, 11:21:00 pm


Never opened yet. Been busy. Just threw on the pool table with the rest.

If-n you do that with mine ......... you will break their fragile wittle edges .........might have to coat mine in expanding foam  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2015, 12:11:20 pm


Never opened yet. Been busy. Just threw on the pool table with the rest.

If-n you do that with mine ......... you will break their fragile wittle edges .........might have to coat mine in expanding foam  ;D

I was joking  :P.   I gently put Shaun's box on a pillow for rest before the big rumble.   

No really SF's chain cut the deer bones up yesterday way faster  :o then me using the bone saw.  ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2015, 12:13:14 pm
Just use USPS Priority $5.95. Forgot to say = Thats for that small flat rate box with Ins too.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 08, 2015, 12:35:55 pm


Never opened yet. Been busy. Just threw on the pool table with the rest.

If-n you do that with mine ......... you will break their fragile wittle edges .........might have to coat mine in expanding foam  ;D


I was joking  :P.   I gently put Shaun's box on a pillow for rest before the big rumble.   

No really SF's chain cut the deer bones up yesterday way faster  :o then me using the bone saw.  ;)

I've used a chainsaw to do that, but now I'll have a excuse when you send me the last place ribbon. Lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2015, 12:44:35 pm
Just thought of something. Maybe a last place badge for the slowest chain for both classes.  That way I get something to show for this besides a cold and cut hand.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 08, 2015, 12:56:27 pm
The dreaded black ribbon..


I will wear it with pride..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 08, 2015, 12:57:45 pm
Just thought of something. Maybe a last place badge for the slowest chain for both classes.  That way I get something to show for this besides a cold and cut hand.

The dreaded black ribbon..


I will wear it with pride..

Great idea !!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2015, 01:10:21 pm
Just thought of something. Maybe a last place badge for the slowest chain for both classes.  That way I get something to show for this besides a cold and cut hand.

The dreaded black ribbon..


I will wear it with pride..

Great idea !!

Just 1 for slowest chain from both classes or 1 for each class like winners badge? 

Now I will only do this if the last place chain maker agrees.   I will wear it proudly.  Because I swore I would never square file again and here look what you all made me do. CUSS! ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2015, 01:11:37 pm
Oh if and prob is, my square is slower then stock. I think we need a slower then stock badge. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2015, 03:39:54 pm
Opened Shaun. ;)

Went through my square work again after noticing a few dubbed after the fall yesterday. Heck I could be making my POS worse for all I know. Like I said I aint testing notta. 
Last is last no matter if I would test or not. Just hope faster then stock.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 08, 2015, 06:36:12 pm
Opened Shaun. ;)

Went through my square work again after noticing a few dubbed after the fall yesterday. Heck I could be making my POS worse for all I know. Like I said I aint testing notta. 
Last is last no matter if I would test or not. Just hope faster then stock.
FYI, I heat treated my cutters for ball peen hammer proof. Thought I'd let you know so you don't mess  your hammers up. :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2015, 07:19:14 pm
Opened Shaun. ;)

Went through my square work again after noticing a few dubbed after the fall yesterday. Heck I could be making my POS worse for all I know. Like I said I aint testing notta. 
Last is last no matter if I would test or not. Just hope faster then stock.
FYI, I heat treated my cutters for ball peen hammer proof. Thought I'd let you know so you don't mess  your hammers up. :D

That one had trouble cutting my tin roof pieces out today for my chicken coop.  Might have lost a cutter or 2 already.  ;D ;)  Thought I saw the train on the other side too.  :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 09, 2015, 07:15:18 am
You know .............................
You will be having all of them chains ........................

Why not keep them for a few more weeks, do all of the badges, we can all cry at being slower than off the roll, then ............ when all of the dust settles;

Run them all again on the biggest - baddest - LoPro capable saw you got.
Post up the results ................. I bet there would be some shake-ups in the finish order
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 09, 2015, 10:57:10 am
Opened Shaun. ;)

Went through my square work again after noticing a few dubbed after the fall yesterday. Heck I could be making my POS worse for all I know. Like I said I aint testing notta. 
Last is last no matter if I would test or not. Just hope faster then stock.
FYI, I heat treated my cutters for ball peen hammer proof. Thought I'd let you know so you don't mess  your hammers up. :D

That one had trouble cutting my tin roof pieces out today for my chicken coop.  Might have lost a cutter or 2 already.  ;D ;)  Thought I saw the train on the other side too.  :P

So now my entries are semi skip. ;)
You know .............................
You will be having all of them chains ........................

Why not keep them for a few more weeks, do all of the badges, we can all cry at being slower than off the roll, then ............ when all of the dust settles;

Run them all again on the biggest - baddest - LoPro capable saw you got.
Post up the results ................. I bet there would be some shake-ups in the finish order
Different results wouldn't surprise me at all. I have a stock oe346 that could be thrown in the mix. I'm not sure 44dl would be long enough.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2015, 12:30:35 pm
You know .............................
You will be having all of them chains ........................

Why not keep them for a few more weeks, do all of the badges, we can all cry at being slower than off the roll, then ............ when all of the dust settles;

Run them all again on the biggest - baddest - LoPro capable saw you got.
Post up the results ................. I bet there would be some shake-ups in the finish order.


Pretty sure I can make the 44dl work on the 45cc echo too. It reminds me of the OE346 46cc in every way, Weight, feel, balance and in the cut.
Set up for the 3/8 7T rim too and could use the same bar.

Heck I could make any of my poulan 46cc 49cc (think I am out of 54cc) and 1 60cc left all use the above combo. 


Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 09, 2015, 12:53:25 pm
The biggest, baddest, highest revvin, mutha scratchin powerhead you can get yer grubby paws on would be what I suggest.
If the 49cc will outcut the 60cc, then run the 49cc


Gives a different view after the mail goal is said and done
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 09, 2015, 02:03:28 pm
The biggest, baddest, highest revvin, mutha scratchin powerhead you can get yer grubby paws on would be what I suggest.
If the 49cc will outcut the 60cc, then run the 49cc


Gives a different view after the mail goal is said and done

Sounds like you want ported. I dont own a ported saw anymore.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2015, 02:12:55 pm
The biggest, baddest, highest revvin, mutha scratchin powerhead you can get yer grubby paws on would be what I suggest.
If the 49cc will outcut the 60cc, then run the 49cc


Gives a different view after the mail goal is said and done

Sounds like you want ported. I dont own a ported saw anymore.

Just remembered I sold a Dan Henry dozerdan ported 026 local.  Could use 3/8 7T rim, If I can find a picco bar to use 44dl on and still fit the 45dl chains too.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2015, 02:22:02 pm
Betting the picco bar for stihl 241 261 would work on the ported 026.  Now wonder if it can handle the 45dl chain too.   So is there a 12" 44dl picco bar for the 241 etc ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 09, 2015, 02:54:46 pm
241 is a different mount than 026. 3005 I think
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2015, 03:04:26 pm
241 is a different mount than 026. 3005 I think

Yep just seen that when I came back in.  Guy was dropping off a ms390.

Bet the shortest 261 picco bar is 14" too.

If I find a bar close I can cut and grind the crap out of it to work if needed.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2015, 05:14:42 pm
Most of you dont have someone telling you little tidbits aka sharing info on shipping the nicer chains and protecting your nicer chain on the bar with covers on them.

On the bar I used to wrap and cut dish towel around chain on bar then slide a bar cover over.  Like shown on these.

See the towels near the case.

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Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2015, 05:22:42 pm
Here is how to protect your cutters during shipping.  I used to use old shop towels wrapped like this.

Pull towel up through middle and cover one half. Then lap that over the other part etc. Hopefully you understand by the pics.   

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Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2015, 05:30:13 pm
My cheap camera  even on micro cant take a pic of a couple of my POS work square cutters.
No biggie you all would just laugh  :D and call me stuff  :P and not let me play in the reindeer games. 
My cutters are like chit trying to free hand. Uneven etc etc etc and just hope to make a straight cut. Heck bet it wont even do that.  :-[

Also know why you all dont like this file free handing now. With the guide I liked it. Not trying to free hand though.

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Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: fisaw on December 09, 2015, 05:42:37 pm
  So is there a 12" 44dl picco bar for the 241 etc ?   
Stihl bars  3005 000 4805 /  light  3005 000 7405   ?


Bet the shortest 261 picco bar is 14" too.
13" ( 32cm)  3003 000 6306   50DL
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2015, 06:00:25 pm
  So is there a 12" 44dl picco bar for the 241 etc ?   
Stihl bars  3005 000 4805 /  light  3005 000 7405   ?


Bet the shortest 261 picco bar is 14" too.
13" ( 32cm)  3003 000 6306   50DL

Is that 13" picco?

Thanks but I need a 12" for a 026 and figured out 241 was different mount. So is there a 12" out there in picco for 026?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2015, 06:06:23 pm
Will figure all the other stuff after the stock saw chain deal is done.   

Then find out how many want to wait and see how it goes with something bigger. Some may want their chain or chains back after new year.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2015, 06:11:14 pm
Opened Shaun. ;)

Went through my square work again after noticing a few dubbed after the fall yesterday. Heck I could be making my POS worse for all I know. Like I said I aint testing notta. 
Last is last no matter if I would test or not. Just hope faster then stock.
FYI, I heat treated my cutters for ball peen hammer proof. Thought I'd let you know so you don't mess  your hammers up. :D

That one had trouble cutting my tin roof pieces out today for my chicken coop.  Might have lost a cutter or 2 already.  ;D ;)  Thought I saw the train on the other side too.  :P

So now my entries are semi skip. ;)


Worse then that. You heard of full skip right.

Make that double full skip now. :o :D 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2015, 06:13:18 pm


Never opened yet. Been busy. Just threw on the pool table with the rest.

If-n you do that with mine ......... you will break their fragile wittle edges .........might have to coat mine in expanding foam  ;D

I posted some pics in case no one ever told you, for on saw protection and when shipping nicer chains protection.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2015, 06:14:24 pm
I should have mine mailed this week.

Check PM.    @Gatekeeper
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on December 09, 2015, 06:19:39 pm
Well I really had good intentions but I'll have to sit this one out .It never dawned on me, by working 7-12's the post office is closed by the time I get off work at 6 pm . --chit happens

All is not lost  though now I'll turn it into a 12" race chain ,if we ever race the little things again  .I'll use it a while before to get the stretch out of it .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2015, 06:23:53 pm
Well I really had good intentions but I'll have to sit this one out .It never dawned on me, by working 7-12's the post office is closed by the time I get off work at 6 pm . --chit happens

All is not lost  though now I'll turn it into a 12" race chain ,if we ever race the little things again  .I'll use it a while before to get the stretch out of it .

Cant you put it in a drop box with a bunch of stamps.  $5 should cover it in a bubble wrap envelope. $5.95 is priority so guessing $5 for other.

I'll send you stamps if needed Al heck bubble wrap envelope if needed too ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 09, 2015, 06:24:29 pm
Well I really had good intentions but I'll have to sit this one out .It never dawned on me, by working 7-12's the post office is closed by the time I get off work at 6 pm . --chit happens

All is not lost  though now I'll turn it into a 12" race chain ,if we ever race the little things again  .I'll use it a while before to get the stretch out of it .

Cant you put it in a drop box with a bunch of stamps.  $5 should cover it in a bubble wrap envelope. $5.95 is priority so guessing $5 for other.

I'll send you stamps if needed Al heck bubble wrap envelope if needed too ?

@Al Smith
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 10, 2015, 12:43:12 pm
I ended up with more time in that pos square work chain then I wanted to. Because I fubarred filed it twice. 45mins worth and prob will show it in times.   :'(  Just please please be faster then stock.   :D


Guess I can go and do 15-20mins of damage on a round file work chain today. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on December 10, 2015, 07:53:55 pm
Here's where the problem lies with sending the chain .

Tuesday, on the last of my 8 hour days until Christmas I stopped and got the mailers and the stamps .The lady told me .Because of postal regulations they cannot be dropped ship .In other words I have to give it to them at the counter .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 10, 2015, 08:45:55 pm
Got side tracked and never got close to chainsaw stuff today  ;D 8).  Maybe by Sunday round will get done.  :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 10, 2015, 10:17:03 pm
Yea I have not touch anything chainsaw related either Kevin.   I have been working on my tractor and leveling out the ground where a pole barn is going up.   I have parts to finish saws but busy with other stuff.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 11, 2015, 06:26:07 am
Al put the stamps on the package and put in your mail box with flag up to go as out going mail.  ;)  I have done this recently with packages.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 11, 2015, 12:18:44 pm
Mine is heading out today.
2 chains .......... one PS and one PS3
Both work chains
I put some cash in the box to cover shipping back, will PM you the tracking
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 11, 2015, 02:52:27 pm
Well I shipped the last place chain today
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 11, 2015, 04:16:36 pm
Mine is heading out today.
2 chains .......... one PS and one PS3
Both work chains
I put some cash in the box to cover shipping back, will PM you the tracking

Thanks

Also thanks again for the help on the sq file you sent me so I can assure last place.  ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 11, 2015, 04:18:14 pm
Well I shipped the last place chain today

No way I called Dibs.  My POS Turd has laid claim to that title ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 11, 2015, 04:28:46 pm
I forgot the return postage
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 11, 2015, 04:29:53 pm
Mine is completely untested I would call it a work chain but let me know
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 11, 2015, 05:36:39 pm
Kevin, I'm on a 2 week shut down starting the 17th.  I can help with slingin cants, pickin up cookies, or switchin chains.  Let me know if I can help. I know testing and videoing takes a lot of time.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 11, 2015, 06:03:29 pm
Kevin, I'm on a 2 week shut down starting the 17th.  I can help with slingin cants, pickin up cookies, or switchin chains.  Let me know if I can help. I know testing and videoing takes a lot of time.

My vacation time starts the 18th for week and half.   

I know I need to make a trip during that time. Time will tell and weather will play a big part.  Thanks for offer. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 11, 2015, 06:05:44 pm
I just free handed a round PS3 with no guide because I wanted to try something I used to do on the .325 chain.   I wished I had used PS after I started as I kept hitting those safety bumpers.

Should cut like a pos too. I'm on a roll.  :D  Called it pos2  :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 11, 2015, 06:08:36 pm
Mine is completely untested I would call it a work chain but let me know

Dont worry. Neither of mine has seen wood since sharpening.   

Just hope they cut straight and faster then off the reel. Prob not on both. 
I didnt want to wrap a bunch of time into it myself. So I just hit them and went good or bad, it is what they is.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 11, 2015, 06:31:23 pm
Those stock chains cut pretty good.   They will be hard to beat.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 11, 2015, 06:45:01 pm
Each chain will have its own video.

With username or shorted to fit. W work  or R race. sq square or rd round at the end of each cookie first cut.

Timing can be done from videos.


Going to do 3 cuts and only 2 fastest times count to be averaged for fastest time.    Sound good?



I was ask if I would mark the cant to show which chain was PS3 with safety bumpers still on them. Not removed. 

So if you see a 3 on the first cant cookie it is ps3. If you see nothing it is ps or bumpers removed. Sound good?


Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 11, 2015, 09:07:12 pm
 Here was the 3ci chain build off.  As you can see throwing out the slowest dont change much. But this gives me a chance to see how the chain is on first cut.

Was curious how many times 1st cut was slowest.

a 2.60 2.41 2.40=2.47
b 2.50 2.69 2.40=2.53
c 3.00 2.76 2.65=2.80
d2.28 2.35 2.25=2.29
e 2.56 2.34 2.50=2.46
f 3.50 3.15 3.15=3.26
g2.38 2.31 2.44=2.37
h 2.18 2.25 2.28=2.23

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Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 11, 2015, 09:15:33 pm
Looked like 50% of the time first cut was the slowest.    Since I have never entered a chain build off before it is interesting to see that some of the times were only hundredths of a second apart.   That's close.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 12, 2015, 06:23:55 am
Each chain will have its own video.

With username or shorted to fit. W work  or R race. sq square or rd round at the end of each cookie first cut.

Timing can be done from videos.


Going to do 3 cuts and only 2 fastest times count to be averaged for fastest time.    Sound good?



I was ask if I would mark the cant to show which chain was PS3 with safety bumpers still on them. Not removed. 

So if you see a 3 on the first cant cookie it is ps3. If you see nothing it is ps or bumpers removed. Sound good?




That sounds like a perfect way to let us all know what were seeing, and what were up against !

I wish we were closer distance wise, I'd love to help you run these and meet some of Ohios finest hacks !


Thanks for doing this Cut !!!!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 12, 2015, 03:43:16 pm
Just got in. More chains were here in mail box  8).  Not opened yet.  :P

Working on other stuff right now. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 12, 2015, 06:38:08 pm
@Philbert   is sending me a Christmas gift. Loops of NOS McCulloch 370 3/8LP 050 low-kickback chains.

Could put one of these stock semi chisel 44dl chain in there to see how the safety chain compares to the stock PS.

Thanks Philbert and Merry Christmas to all here.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on December 12, 2015, 09:24:01 pm
Aha I think I've found a solution to my predicament .If I can sneak away for about a half an hour I think I can get the chain mailed at the post office on Monday.

Having been so long since I square filed a chain I forgot what a pain in the butt it is .Standard 3/8" is bad enough and pico is enough to make preacher cuss .Two flippen hours on that thing .This one won't be in the wood either .It's pitch dark when I get home .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 12, 2015, 09:49:53 pm
Just got in. More chains were here in mail box  8).  Not opened yet.  :P

Working on other stuff right now. 

I do not know if the one I sent has arrived yet but it should be showing up any day now.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 13, 2015, 10:12:14 am
Just got in. More chains were here in mail box  8).  Not opened yet.  :P

Working on other stuff right now. 

I do not know if the one I sent has arrived yet but it should be showing up any day now.

Yep one is yours and unopened still.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 13, 2015, 04:25:50 pm
Just got in. More chains were here in mail box  8).  Not opened yet.  :P

Working on other stuff right now. 

I do not know if the one I sent has arrived yet but it should be showing up any day now.

Yep one is yours and unopened still.

Opened.  Nice looking chain. If it cuts as good as it looks should see good times.

So far mine are the ugliest looking chains on hand. Everyone else has nice looking,  even cutters and etc.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 13, 2015, 04:27:06 pm
One of the chains was 44dl and I test fit it. Yep 44dl and 45dl are good to go like I thought on this saw.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 13, 2015, 04:28:20 pm
Sure wish I was testing today.  60's.   ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 13, 2015, 06:34:24 pm
I seen it was a lot warmer than normal in the northeast today
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 13, 2015, 07:19:17 pm
I made mine to 45 I believe . wow I can't remember lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 13, 2015, 08:19:05 pm
Dex is out I guess. He never broke down his past play chain from what I gather. 

Work gets like that this time of year and fully understand.  Got to get the OT when you can.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 13, 2015, 09:55:14 pm
Im still here just been busy. Im going to send in a work chain tuesday. Need address. Pm me the address please.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 13, 2015, 11:28:45 pm
Awol and I found some interesting test results this weekend..
Hope the white pine is more consistent than the yellow pine we tested in.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 14, 2015, 08:26:10 am
Can you please let me know if my chain arrives today . ty
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ChainBuildOff on December 14, 2015, 12:48:55 pm
Im still here just been busy. Im going to send in a work chain tuesday. Need address. Pm me the address please.

Just sent the mailing address out to 4 folks. 

Everyone good for address now?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 12:51:37 pm
Awol and I found some interesting test results this weekend..
Hope the white pine is more consistent than the yellow pine we tested in.



What did you all have happening?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 12:53:59 pm
I have a enough drive links of ps3 to piece together a loop of 45dl too.  I already have PS stock off reel. Do you feel we need the stock PS3 too? 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 14, 2015, 12:59:20 pm
I have a enough drive links of ps3 to piece together a loop of 45dl too.  Do you feel we need the stock PS3 too? 
I could have sent that in with mine .................. if I had only asked first  :(
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 01:04:39 pm
I have a enough drive links of ps3 to piece together a loop of 45dl too.  Do you feel we need the stock PS3 too? 
I could have sent that in with mine .................. if I had only asked first  :(

At the time I had one.  I gave my last loop of ps3 to Jim 660magnum to do up a chain.

A friend wanted me to do them a 55dl and they never showed. So I have those left over right now, where I was getting the pieces together for them. Heck I had to use 2 presets on the one I gave Jim.

I really need to order some new bulk ps chain.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 14, 2015, 01:17:38 pm

I really need to order some new bulk ps chain.
Soon, I will be grabbing a roll of PS and a roll of RS, just undecided if my RS will be .375, or .404
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on December 14, 2015, 01:32:33 pm
Im still here just been busy. Im going to send in a work chain tuesday. Need address. Pm me the address please.

Just sent the mailing address out to 4 folks. 

Everyone good for address now?

Did you send it to me? Never mind just saw it.

I have a enough drive links of ps3 to piece together a loop of 45dl too.  I already have PS stock off reel. Do you feel we need the stock PS3 too?

I have one that's made 4 cuts. If you want it it's yours. It'll be 44dl.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 02:27:54 pm
I'm covered on the stock ps3 if needed. I just wondered if you folks feel the need to have a stock ps3 thrown in too. Even though I have a PS ready to go stock.

Just say the word and it will be done. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 14, 2015, 02:46:06 pm
Awol and I found some interesting test results this weekend..
Hope the white pine is more consistent than the yellow pine we tested in.

.What did you all have happening?

We had a little gtg and tried some different things..
AWOL kept some times from the 2 different saws.
He may be able to give some perspective on them
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 14, 2015, 02:52:52 pm
My chain will be riding with Awol's chain.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 14, 2015, 02:54:32 pm
Run a stock PS3 ........... it couldnt hurt to see where it ends up. Heck it will probably beat my 2 square work entries
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 03:13:35 pm
My chain will be riding with Awol's chain.

He told me yours was and I sent him mailing addy.

I'll ask him in PM for info.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 03:59:59 pm
2 more boxes today. Skippy and Mopar 

If anyone has sent a box and needs to know if here PM me if they didnt want in open. As the first few I did like that when they got here.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 14, 2015, 04:13:00 pm
I guess I should of said not to use on railroad ties and tin roofing. ;)

How many entries are you going to end up with?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 14, 2015, 04:16:33 pm
2 more boxes today. Skippy and Mopar 

Welp ........... I guess I am out of excuses now !

You can see, I havent even tested them
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 14, 2015, 05:07:26 pm
How's mine look slow and dull ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on December 14, 2015, 05:14:19 pm
I have seen some ugly looking chains cut very well and some real pretty chains cut horrible.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 06:22:07 pm
I have seen some ugly looking chains cut very well and some real pretty chains cut horrible.

Yep I had some like that from a pos north of me. Pay good money or trade something worth good money and chain wouldnt cut for chit. But it looked good in the hands. I called them cull chains for gtg use.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 06:22:43 pm
How's mine look slow and dull ?

Unopened was working on 2 saws today. In time. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 06:24:09 pm
2 more boxes today. Skippy and Mopar 

Welp ........... I guess I am out of excuses now !

You can see, I havent even tested them

Unopened still.

Least a bunch of us have untested chains. We got a excuse.  ;) :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 06:25:40 pm
I guess I should of said not to use on railroad ties and tin roofing. ;)

How many entries are you going to end up with?

Havent counted but know several are still coming.  Even folks not saying much in the thread.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 14, 2015, 06:43:46 pm
When it's over someone who will use the loop can have mine.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 14, 2015, 06:46:09 pm
I have a 12" bar and would be honored to use your chain.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 06:47:14 pm
I just wonder if a work chain will end up faster then the race chains.  Maybe at least close to them without all the work done. Like tunneling - rakers worked - back of cutters - tie strap work - stoning - etc - etc

Still didnt see anyone do what used to be done to full blown 3/8 race chain  to help lighten them up.    Will look closer when they are all here.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 06:48:17 pm
When it's over someone who will use the loop can have mine.
I have a 12" bar and would be honored to use your chain.

Mike send yours back to Roger?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on December 14, 2015, 07:10:27 pm
It's in the mail as of today .Should be there by Wed per the post mistress .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on December 14, 2015, 07:34:34 pm
   After what we learned at Matt's on Saturday, I think a squared work chain may be the fastest on a small, stock saw. Raise the chain speed though, and worked-over race chains make up some ground.
   I tried to post a pic of the results, as recorded on the top of the cant, but the files is to large. May have to just hand write the results.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 14, 2015, 07:42:08 pm

When it's over someone who will use the loop can have mine.
I have a 12" bar and would be honored to use your chain.

Mike send yours back to Roger?
Sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 07:43:05 pm
   After what we learned at Matt's on Saturday, I think a squared work chain may be the fastest on a small, stock saw. Raise the chain speed though, and worked-over race chains make up some ground.
   I tried to post a pic of the results, as recorded on the top of the cant, but the files is to large. May have to just hand write the results.

Send to gmail.com and I will resize them to post.   Got them
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 07:43:30 pm

When it's over someone who will use the loop can have mine.
I have a 12" bar and would be honored to use your chain.

Mike send yours back to Roger?
Sounds good to me.

Will do.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 07:44:05 pm
It's in the mail as of today .Should be there by Wed per the post mistress .

Very cool. Glad to see you make it in.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 14, 2015, 07:45:23 pm

When it's over someone who will use the loop can have mine.
I have a 12" bar and would be honored to use your chain.

Mike send yours back to Roger?
Sounds good to me.

Thank you very much.   I will put it to good use.   I am going to keep my 12" bar on my Poulan 265.  I am using it to process some small pieces for fire wood.   

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 14, 2015, 07:58:23 pm
I'll be happy it gets used. Going to be cleaning out off ball chain stuff soon. I have some 18" chain's I'll never use. I didnt buy a bar and chain to test it on the 346 so I won't have a use after this.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 14, 2015, 08:37:32 pm
I just wonder if a work chain will end up faster then the race chains. 

I bet a work chain will be close in the small saw, and close in the "post event" big bad mamma saw chain race

Close to last place that is !!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 14, 2015, 08:52:54 pm
   After what we learned at Matt's on Saturday, I think a squared work chain may be the fastest on a small, stock saw. Raise the chain speed though, and worked-over race chains make up some ground.
   I tried to post a pic of the results, as recorded on the top of the cant, but the files is to large. May have to just hand write the results.

I am sure that once there is enough power to carry the tooth through the cut faster, its a matter of slurry removal, which will also need the extra power so the chain dont choke too badly on its own feed. At least that is what I have seen on mine
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 09:08:46 pm
   After what we learned at Matt's on Saturday, I think a squared work chain may be the fastest on a small, stock saw. Raise the chain speed though, and worked-over race chains make up some ground.
   I tried to post a pic of the results, as recorded on the top of the cant, but the files is to large. May have to just hand write the results.

 8)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 14, 2015, 09:11:12 pm
Partner 5000 testing same chains?

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on December 14, 2015, 09:32:38 pm
   Yep, Partner 5000 was used for the second test, and it had a lot of chain speed. Andy ran the saws each run, and the written times were the average of two timers. The wood used did have a few knots, so each chain was run twice. The wood was yellow pine I think.
   My race chain had untouched rakers, and Andy had to really push, so I took a bit off them before sending.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 14, 2015, 11:03:17 pm
These chains seem really sensitive to wood conditions.
I sure hope Kevin's cant is not as squirrelly as the one we had.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on December 15, 2015, 05:22:29 am
Well now the rakers are another guessing game .Mine were set with a straight edge and feeler gauge at 24 thou .I have an idea how that would go with a 200T but I have no idea with most any other small saws. Might be too much .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 15, 2015, 10:28:26 am
I just eye balled the rakers on the race chain I sent in.   I really do not know how low they are.   I just did not want them too aggressive.   It will be fun even if in last place.   
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 15, 2015, 01:46:07 pm
Being my chains were work chains the cutters wasnt taken back to the sweet spot.  I just redid right where the new cutters were at.  So the rakers were left at stock height.

Now if you take a cutter back to the sweet spot by the rear rivet. Has anyone measured where the raker ends up from factory, with cutter to the back of rivet?  020 018 just a WAG. Never has a PS PS3 chain back like that before to know.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 15, 2015, 01:49:00 pm
Thought I would throw a picture out there of the chain I sent in when working on it.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 15, 2015, 02:18:05 pm
You pic dont show how nice looking the chain is up close in the hands Roger.  If it cuts as good as it looks it will be interesting.

Good Luck
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 15, 2015, 03:41:26 pm
Well I am not making any big claims.   My first attempt at this so it may not be any faster than a stock chain.
My test cuts were real inconsistent I think due to my lack of experience.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 15, 2015, 03:43:27 pm
Being my chains were work chains the cutters wasnt taken back to the sweet spot.  I just redid right where the new cutters were at.  So the rakers were left at stock height.

Now if you take a cutter back to the sweet spot by the rear rivet. Has anyone measured where the raker ends up from factory, with cutter to the back of rivet?  020 018 just a WAG. Never has a PS PS3 chain back like that before to know.

Take a look at my PS work chain
I was getting .010-.015 on it before taking them down
The PS3 is just squared
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 15, 2015, 03:49:54 pm
Being my chains were work chains the cutters wasnt taken back to the sweet spot.  I just redid right where the new cutters were at.  So the rakers were left at stock height.

Now if you take a cutter back to the sweet spot by the rear rivet. Has anyone measured where the raker ends up from factory, with cutter to the back of rivet?  020 018 just a WAG. Never has a PS PS3 chain back like that before to know.

Take a look at my PS work chain
I was getting .010-.015 on it before taking them down
The PS3 is just squared

Holy crap 010  to 015  :o

Roger I will try to remember to look at your rakers when mounted.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 15, 2015, 04:20:43 pm
Ok Kevin.  I do not know where they are set at.   I always eye ball them even on my work chains.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 15, 2015, 05:00:04 pm
Well after reading this thread now I'm pretty sure I have the last place chain . I did not touch my rakers at all. Stock ps3 is pretty fast off the roll
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 15, 2015, 05:18:10 pm
Skippysphins  where was your cutter at?  I didnt touch rakers either, but was new chain like a touch up was all I did with different angles.  Not all the way back like the race chain stuff.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 15, 2015, 06:15:20 pm
Kevin you can post pictures of mine if you want. I don't think I touched the rakers. Just tried to make it smooth.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 15, 2015, 06:52:31 pm
My chain taken pics stink Mike. I only get a good pic every 100 or so.  :-\
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 15, 2015, 06:53:45 pm
What username here just sent me videos running a husky top handle?  Was sent to my gmail
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on December 15, 2015, 07:05:13 pm
What username here just sent me videos running a husky top handle?  Was sent to my  gmail
That would be me.

Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 15, 2015, 07:06:56 pm
What username here just sent me videos running a husky top handle?  Was sent to my CR gmail
That would be me.

Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk



Emailed back.   Thanks for the share. 

So you did 2 chains?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 15, 2015, 07:24:55 pm

My chain taken pics stink Mike. I only get a good pic every 100 or so.  :-\
I don't think I took any but that one I posted way back.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on December 15, 2015, 08:27:15 pm
What username here just sent me videos running a husky top handle?  Was sent to my CR gmail
That would be me.

Sent from my VS985 4G using Tapatalk



Emailed back.   Thanks for the share. 

So you did 2 chains?
Yes. The one labeled ps3t1 is the stock chain. The other is the "race" chain.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 16, 2015, 06:31:31 am
The chains I had were .017 raker depth. My work chain is untouched. The one chain I filed back ended up being about .005. I set it back to .017. I wished I would of left a couple thou higher. Chain is hungry but still pulls thru lugging down. I think the cut with lighter touch is a smidge faster.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 16, 2015, 06:54:08 am
The one chain I filed back ended up being about .005. I set it back to .017. I wished I would of left a couple thou higher. Chain is hungry but still pulls thru lugging down. I think the cut with lighter touch is a smidge faster.
I saw two or three .005 rakers, but mostly saw .010-.015 on mine after filing them back

Shoot ............. I thought .020 was conservative being I was seeing .025-.030 on untouched PS
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 16, 2015, 12:00:34 pm
The chains I had were .017 raker depth. My work chain is untouched. The one chain I filed back ended up being about .005. I set it back to .017. I wished I would of left a couple thou higher. Chain is hungry but still pulls thru lugging down. I think the cut with lighter touch is a smidge faster.

Wow good info.    I was thinking in that range.  I remember some of the 3ci 4ci race chain running .018 - .022 rakers. ;)   
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 16, 2015, 12:22:01 pm
New off the roll didn't touch rakers at all
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 16, 2015, 12:28:05 pm
The chains I had were .017 raker depth. My work chain is untouched. The one chain I filed back ended up being about .005. I set it back to .017. I wished I would of left a couple thou higher. Chain is hungry but still pulls thru lugging down. I think the cut with lighter touch is a smidge faster.

Wow good info.    I was thinking in that range.  I remember some of the 3ci 4ci race chain running .018 - .022 rakers. ;)   

My 3cube 3/8" play chains are above .015. The ps I was experimenting I set at .020.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 16, 2015, 12:56:09 pm
I think that is part of the mistake some make on small cube builds on chain. Take to much rakers off and to aggressive cutters.

I had to borrow a 3ci chain at my last racing gtg as I sold or traded off everything. This was just on woods ported 46cc 50cc 346's.
I couldnt run that chain very good but still did ok. It was way to aggressive to what I was used to running on my 3ci.   
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 16, 2015, 12:57:44 pm
New off the roll didn't touch rakers at all

LOL again =  but where is your cutter at.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 16, 2015, 01:00:42 pm
I'm not really sure lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 16, 2015, 01:02:49 pm
I'm not really sure lol

Did you leave it like new or move it to the rear rivet?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 16, 2015, 01:04:04 pm
 :o  at the entries coming in. Just hope 3 cants was enough.  :P

1 more day  8)

https://youtu.be/9jK-NcRmVcw
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 16, 2015, 01:20:18 pm
Like new lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 16, 2015, 01:22:59 pm
Like new lol

You will be fine then. Thats all I did.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 16, 2015, 01:55:30 pm
Sorry I wasn't following you buddy
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on December 16, 2015, 05:39:43 pm
I have alway cut the rakers down on a new chain. No matter 3/8 LP , .325, 3/8. I like mine a little grabby. Maybe I went to far with mine. Just did it how I would do any other chain I would sharpen. Guess only time will tell.

Cut. If you run low on cants just run my square chain.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 16, 2015, 06:36:57 pm
Being my chains were work chains the cutters wasnt taken back to the sweet spot.  I just redid right where the new cutters were at.  So the rakers were left at stock height.

Now if you take a cutter back to the sweet spot by the rear rivet. Has anyone measured where the raker ends up from factory, with cutter to the back of rivet?  020 018 just a WAG. Never has a PS PS3 chain back like that before to know.

Take a look at my PS work chain
I was getting .010-.015 on it before taking them down
The PS3 is just squared

 See why now.  :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 16, 2015, 06:40:08 pm
I have alway cut the rakers down on a new chain. No matter 3/8 LP , .325, 3/8. I like mine a little grabby. Maybe I went to far with mine. Just did it how I would do any other chain I would sharpen. Guess only time will tell.

Cut. If you run low on cants just run my square chain.

All chains sent in will be run no problems. 

I will hold 2 of the 3 stock chains back to make sure.  Even then only need a couple feet left to do that. Some to hold cant and 4 inches for 3 cuts for each.  Then figure cut off for knots. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 16, 2015, 08:00:02 pm
I hope the white pine is more consistent than the yellow we were playing in.
I swear, even our pine sucks here..
Maybe we need to switch to cottonwood..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 16, 2015, 08:28:34 pm
Cut4, let me no when u get my work chain . I sharpened it like the lp on my 450 and a little more out the gullets so it should b smooth and consistent. Im getting excited to shame the old timers. Lol. Sorry everone who cares I have been really busy after the holidays ill b back on like I use to b.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 16, 2015, 08:30:30 pm
Got a good laugh out of this.  :D :D

I used to take aluminum foil bend to make prongs and pin it to pencil eraser.  ;D

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/10408522_793862950655041_8440744686811949529_n.jpg?oh=0a119f4779875ff35271075a69475289&oe=56DC0838)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 16, 2015, 08:32:31 pm
There is a few in route still.  Will check with folks as they come in to let you know.

Just in case your box isnt here yet. I have a dvd that was sent to me that was suppose to be here 6 days ago and mailed less then 2 hrs away. It is that time of year. grrrrrr
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on December 17, 2015, 09:54:21 am
   Ours should have been there yesterday, as I sent them Priority Mail, but like ya said, its that time of year. Grrrrrrrr!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 17, 2015, 01:15:04 pm
yesterdays was phils stock semi and rjames box. Unopened still. Was busy with a couple of saws yesterday for a guy.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 17, 2015, 03:45:18 pm
That rusty scratcher chain would most likely out cut my entry, please don't send it to Ohio.
When you check out my chain cut4fun, keep in mind I'm probably the most "green" guy at square filing ::)
Then again, I can take the abuse lol I'm trying to learn.

Dang it. Thats what I forgot to do while in the barn.  Open the boxes.  Hoping the rest show up today. Boxes from folks I know of sent Monday isnt here.
2-3 day mail priority, we will see later.  I have to wait as one of the last on the route.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 17, 2015, 05:19:19 pm
   Ours should have been there yesterday, as I sent them Priority Mail, but like ya said, its that time of year. Grrrrrrrr!

4 arrived. Yours and Al's I seen when I set them down. 

Will check the others later.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 17, 2015, 10:37:45 pm
That rusty scratcher chain would most likely out cut my entry, please don't send it to Ohio.
When you check out my chain cut4fun, keep in mind I'm probably the most "green" guy at square filing ::)


I don't know about that.   I have only done a couple of filed chains myself prior to this.   That is what makes this fun.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 18, 2015, 02:02:06 pm
For later if we do this on a little faster ported saw.

Found a 12" picco bar that will work on a 026 mount when modified. Just need to open the slot, elongate bar tensioner hole and oiler hole.  8)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 18, 2015, 03:03:56 pm
I hope to be able to find time to open the rest of the boxes here soon.

I am impressed with alot of chains I am seeing.

 Especially one I seen today off a swing arm grinder.  :o 8)

All I can say is well done so far folks. The amount of chains here is almost overwhelming. IMO 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 18, 2015, 04:26:12 pm
Did you look at my low and slow chain aka last place
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 18, 2015, 07:05:16 pm
Did you look at my low and slow chain aka last place

Not recalling it right now so maybe not opened. I havent seen any that looked slower then my 2 pos yet.

Hopefully looks are deceiving.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 18, 2015, 07:06:47 pm
We dodged another bullet. Another good filer couldn't get a chain in.   Maybe next time Willard.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 18, 2015, 08:18:09 pm
Mine may be last place in the race class. I didnt spend a ton of time on it.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on December 18, 2015, 08:43:58 pm
I have no idea how that thing I did would do .Fact never found out how the 14" racer  loop did on my souped 200T . Nobody showed up with a little saw at the last GTG I went to .I had a certain 201T in mind that was supposed to be like lightning but never found out .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: HolmenTree on December 18, 2015, 08:46:46 pm
We dodged another bullet. Another good filer couldn't get a chain in.   Maybe next time Willard.
I was really looking forward to it....with this crazy summer weather in winter we're getting lately my tree service has gotta make hay when the sun shines.
I got a 63PS chain all apart on my work bench , started putting the cutters on a little 61PMN .043 chassis.  Would be my first mini race chain haha.
.007 DL difference from a .050 short guide bar wouldn't effect cutting efficiency any  with a chisel bit edge.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 19, 2015, 09:27:33 am
We dodged another bullet. Another good filer couldn't get a chain in.   Maybe next time Willard.
I was really looking forward to it....with this crazy summer weather in winter we're getting lately my tree service has gotta make hay when the sun shines.
I got a 63PS chain all apart on my work bench , started putting the cutters on a little 61PMN .043 chassis.  Would be my first mini race chain haha.
.007 DL difference from a .050 short guide bar wouldn't effect cutting efficiency any  with a chisel bit edge.

After we get done cutting with the stock echo 3900 39cc.  Going to order some more cants and run the chains again on a woods ported 026 with 12" picco bar. 

If you can get your chain done by then send it in.  No set dates for 2nd round.

I have no problem throwing it in the mix.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on December 19, 2015, 09:42:17 pm
Speculation on my part tested on an 026 regarding my chain and how much I took the rakers down it should  do better on that saw .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 19, 2015, 09:56:49 pm
I got at least 4-5 boxes I still need to open for the stock echo testing. 

Good luck to all that sent in chains. Pretty cool IMO

Vegas odds were set when i told them who entered. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 19, 2015, 09:57:54 pm
Still amazed at this LP chain and square filing it.  Man I wish this stuff was out back in my racing days.  Would have been great on the 40cc under TH and 40cc under rear handle classes.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 19, 2015, 10:19:25 pm
Thanks for all your hard work too
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 19, 2015, 10:21:10 pm
I got at least 4-5 boxes I still need to open for the stock echo testing. 

Good luck to all that sent in chains. Pretty cool IMO

Vegas odds were set when i told them who entered. ;)

I think it is pretty cool also Kevin that there was a lot of interest from new people and experienced people both.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 19, 2015, 10:24:15 pm
Thanks for all your hard work too

Hasnt even begun. But Thanks. ;)

You and others make the site happen.

If I didnt think chain saw sites needed improved back in 2011 I would have never started this site. 
But there needed to be a site to help folks in chainsaw repair like this IMHO.  FREELY

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 19, 2015, 10:27:16 pm
I
I got at least 4-5 boxes I still need to open for the stock echo testing. 

Good luck to all that sent in chains. Pretty cool IMO

Vegas odds were set when i told them who entered. ;)

I think it is pretty cool also Kevin that there was a lot of interest from new people and experienced people both.

I just wish those few current racers and ex racers had the time to file a chain. But I know how it is.

After the 3ci chain build I swore I would never try to square file a chain again. Let alone without my atop guide.   :o  Yeah I'm screwed.  :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 19, 2015, 10:29:59 pm
Roger by looks there is new folks that make mine look like shame.  Some sweet looking chain.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 20, 2015, 01:29:37 am
Thanks cut4 for all the time your going to spend. Thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 20, 2015, 08:22:23 am


Vegas odds were set when i told them who entered. ;)

Deadline is up ............. so what are all of the odds ??
Come on .................. FESS UP !!!!!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 20, 2015, 08:27:12 am
Roger by looks there is new folks that make mine look like shame.  Some sweet looking chain.
Looks are just that ............ performance is whats most imoportant !

Thanks cut4 for all the time your going to spend. Thanks.  ;D
X2 !!
Thanks for doing this Cut !!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 20, 2015, 08:28:37 am


Vegas odds were set when i told them who entered. ;)

Deadline is up ............. so what are all of the odds ??
Come on .................. FESS UP !!!!!!

To be honest I havent a clue.  Could make something up.  :P

See how they shake out in few days or so I reckon.  8)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 20, 2015, 08:32:40 am


Vegas odds were set when i told them who entered. ;)

Deadline is up ............. so what are all of the odds ??
Come on .................. FESS UP !!!!!!

To be honest I havent a clue.  Could make something up.  :P

See how they shake out in few days or so I reckon.  8)

Make them up if you got the time ............... you are the only one to see all of them nice shiney nibblers ............. tell us what you think.

Its all just bench racing now anyway - and wont mean spit once the saw is running !!

Go for it !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 20, 2015, 09:02:07 am
X2. lol. Run whatcha brung... ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 20, 2015, 09:35:18 am
My head started hurting trying to read up on odds.  :o

These are worked out for some simple odds:
odds (ratio)    o_{f}    o_{a}    p    q
1:1    1    1    50%    50%
0:1    0    ∞    0%    100%
1:0    ∞    0    100%    0%
2:1    2    .5    67%    33%
1:2    .5    2    33%    67%
4:1    4    .25    80%    20%
1:4    .25    4    20%    80%
9:1    9    0.1    90%    10%
10:1    10    0.1    90.90%    9.09%
99:1    99    0.01    99%    1%
100:1    100    0.01    99.0099%    0.90%
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 20, 2015, 12:45:42 pm
All of the boxes have been opened today.  I am guessing there is at least 30 or more chains including the 3 stock chains. There maybe 30 or more of the ones sent in as there was multiples in some boxes 2-3 in one box.  :o

Also Thank You to you folks that kicked in to help on the return shipping  8).  Very much appreciated.

I have not looked at all chains yet. = Chris aka skippy  :P   

But I did see something new today on one.  :o ;D

I am thinking that 4" for 3cuts plus cut off for knots it will take 2 cants at least.  So 3 is possibility.

So if we do the woods ported testing later with all these chains will need to order at least 2 cants maybe 3.


Will try and look at some more chains later.

Oh do you guys think I should put everyone's name in a hat and run them in the order pulled? or just run them as I feel like grabbing them?

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 20, 2015, 04:03:56 pm
Run them as you grab them, just keep everyones together.
Like if Skippy sent in 3 chains, do his 3 in a row
Easy for him to see his one right after the other
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 20, 2015, 04:32:55 pm
All of the boxes have been opened today.  I am guessing there is at least 30 or more chains including the 3 stock chains. There maybe 30 or more of the ones sent in as there was multiples in some boxes 2-3 in one box.  :o

Also Thank You to you folks that kicked in to help on the return shipping  8).  Very much appreciated.

I have not looked at all chains yet. = Chris aka skippy  :P   

But I did see something new today on one.  :o ;D

I am thinking that 4" for 3cuts plus cut off for knots it will take 2 cants at least.  So 3 is possibility.

So if we do the woods ported testing later with all these chains will need to order at least 2 cants maybe 3.


Will try and look at some more chains later.

Oh do you guys think I should put everyone's name in a hat and run them in the order pulled? or just run them as I feel like grabbing them?



Please do not spend anything sending mine back.
Put it in someone else's box.
I'll never have a use for a 45 DL.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 20, 2015, 04:34:19 pm
All of the boxes have been opened today.  I am guessing there is at least 30 or more chains including the 3 stock chains. There maybe 30 or more of the ones sent in as there was multiples in some boxes 2-3 in one box.  :o

Also Thank You to you folks that kicked in to help on the return shipping  8).  Very much appreciated.

I have not looked at all chains yet. = Chris aka skippy  :P   

But I did see something new today on one.  :o ;D

I am thinking that 4" for 3cuts plus cut off for knots it will take 2 cants at least.  So 3 is possibility.

So if we do the woods ported testing later with all these chains will need to order at least 2 cants maybe 3.


Will try and look at some more chains later.

Oh do you guys think I should put everyone's name in a hat and run them in the order pulled? or just run them as I feel like grabbing them?



Please do not spend anything sending mine back.
Put it in someone else's box.
I'll never have a use for a 45 DL.

Want me to just send back with AWOL chains.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 20, 2015, 04:35:54 pm
Run them as you grab them, just keep everyones together.
Like if Skippy sent in 3 chains, do his 3 in a row
Easy for him to see his one right after the other

Going to try and do each chain with it's own video. Instead of one long video.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 20, 2015, 04:51:29 pm
If he can use it, yes.
If not, send it to someone who can put it to use..
It's a lonely life for a chain to just hang on a nail.
Lol..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 20, 2015, 05:52:22 pm
Kevin if you buy more cants let me know. I'll chip in for some of them.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 20, 2015, 05:59:52 pm
Kevin if you buy more cants let me know. I'll chip in for some of them.

I sent a email today to check on getting 3 more just in case for next round. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on December 20, 2015, 06:18:58 pm
    I don't need it...........unless its the winner! Might be all I need to beat Levis 025 with my 024!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 20, 2015, 06:26:14 pm
Might want to see how it does on the ported 026 first too. ;)

Going to run a 3/8 7T on this saw too.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 20, 2015, 06:32:43 pm
    I don't need it...........unless its the winner! Might be all I need to beat Levis 025 with my 024!
Levi's 025 is in the work force with 3/8 60DL now..
Guess he could outfit it for a special occasion. Lol.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 20, 2015, 06:34:16 pm
Up to 38 degrees right now.  Dont know how bad I want to start testing these chains out. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on December 20, 2015, 07:44:50 pm
Kev, don't need my chain back.  When you gonna do the 026 runs, may file another...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 20, 2015, 07:47:17 pm
Kev, don't need my chain back.  When you gonna do the 026 runs, may file another...

OK,    we will all get together and figure it out on the 026 date. I still need to mod a bar. Get cants etc. 

Weather could come into play too.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: HolmenTree on December 20, 2015, 10:33:00 pm
We dodged another bullet. Another good filer couldn't get a chain in.   Maybe next time Willard.
I was really looking forward to it....with this crazy summer weather in winter we're getting lately my tree service has gotta make hay when the sun shines.
I got a 63PS chain all apart on my work bench , started putting the cutters on a little 61PMN .043 chassis.  Would be my first mini race chain haha.
.007 DL difference from a .050 short guide bar wouldn't effect cutting efficiency any  with a chisel bit edge.

After we get done cutting with the stock echo 3900 39cc.  Going to order some more cants and run the chains again on a woods ported 026 with 12" picco bar. 

If you can get your chain done by then send it in.  No set dates for 2nd round.

I have no problem throwing it in the mix.
Second round sounds good, I'll have lots of spare time after the new year. I won't need my chains sent back to me.
Merry Christmas everyone.....hard to believe it's already only 5 days away.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 20, 2015, 10:38:20 pm
We dodged another bullet. Another good filer couldn't get a chain in.   Maybe next time Willard.
I was really looking forward to it....with this crazy summer weather in winter we're getting lately my tree service has gotta make hay when the sun shines.
I got a 63PS chain all apart on my work bench , started putting the cutters on a little 61PMN .043 chassis.  Would be my first mini race chain haha.
.007 DL difference from a .050 short guide bar wouldn't effect cutting efficiency any  with a chisel bit edge.

After we get done cutting with the stock echo 3900 39cc.  Going to order some more cants and run the chains again on a woods ported 026 with 12" picco bar. 

If you can get your chain done by then send it in.  No set dates for 2nd round.

I have no problem throwing it in the mix.
Second round sounds good, I'll have lots of spare time after the new year. I won't need my chains sent back to me.
Merry Christmas everyone.....hard to believe it's already only 5 days away.

Let me know if you need my address or not.  Hope to see your chain for round 2  8)

Enjoy family and Merry Christmas too.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 21, 2015, 09:09:30 am
Thought of something. The chains ran on the stock 39cc were done for that saw specifically.  Running on a bigger cc woods port saw was a afterthought to see what happens to same chains.

So in my thinking any chain sent in for round 2 will be in its own group. 

Because I know some folks know how to file different (more aggressive) for a woods port 50cc then a chain done up for a stock 39cc. So IMO would be different level of chains.

Sound right?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 21, 2015, 09:19:27 am
That works for me. I'm betting several from the first group will be too aggressive and better suited to the 50cc
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 21, 2015, 09:33:32 am
Order put in for 3 more 8"x8' cants.  Ask for white pine to keep same wood, then other wood if no white pine. cottonwood, other pine, poplar, aspen.

Think he said white pine on hand.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 21, 2015, 10:53:17 am
Good idea !!
How much for the cants ............ I can chip in
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 21, 2015, 11:03:31 am
Good idea !!
How much for the cants ............ I can chip in

Last 3 was $60  guessing same if they are in white pine.  Poplar cants alittle more.  I did ask for 3 more white pine though to keep the same wood.

Just in case you want to help defer cost.

I have a paypal addy that can be used.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 21, 2015, 12:28:48 pm
I will send you an envelope tomorrow with some cash ...........
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 21, 2015, 12:32:24 pm
I will send you an envelope tomorrow with some cash ...........

You really dont have to IMO. But Thank You  8) for all the help and easing all of this on my pockets some.  ;)

You should hear the ear full I been getting on that last gun purchase.  Which she is right. Son in college, meals, books etc.  :o ::) :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 21, 2015, 02:08:15 pm
I will send you an envelope tomorrow with some cash ...........

You really dont have to IMO. But Thank You  8) for all the help and easing all of this on my pockets some.  ;)


Yeah, but  .............. its the right thing to do.
Appreciate all you are doing, and are about to do for this chain race, and the next one.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 21, 2015, 04:53:24 pm
That works for me.

Thanks Mike  8)

Me and the CRS family here Thank you for the cant purchase help.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 21, 2015, 05:54:25 pm
Holmentree is running a chain. Well ****.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on December 21, 2015, 06:15:12 pm
kev....add my chain to the "do not send back list".  don't have anything that can run it.

......also, if anyone needs a chain for round two?  can send out a new chain.  only have one to send.  let me know.  happy to do so.

-joe
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 21, 2015, 06:30:23 pm
kev....add my chain to the "do not send back list".  don't have anything that can run it.

......also, if anyone needs a chain for round two?  can send out a new chain.  only have one to send.  let me know.  happy to do so.

-joe

Gotcha. Yours was one of the first here.  Seen some different stuff going on there.

Good Luck with times in race class.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 21, 2015, 06:30:53 pm
Holmentree is running a chain. Well ****.  ;D

Nope didnt send one in.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 21, 2015, 08:58:52 pm
That works for me.

Thanks Mike  8)

Me and the CRS family here Thank you for the cant purchase help.
You're welcome. Figure it can help with that and if you get extra get some more storage space if we need it here.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 22, 2015, 01:03:31 am
Looking forward to seeing all the times and results . Merry Christmas guys and good luck ! If anyone is traveling safe travels!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 22, 2015, 07:50:36 am
Thanks Shawn for helping on the cants  8)   

------------------------------------------------------------------------------


50 degrees here this morning, but we got a soaking. Water standing

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 22, 2015, 10:02:01 am
Is this video quality good enough for you folks to time off of?

320 gives me 60mins, 640 30mins, 1280HD 15mins recording time. 

I will make sure we can see  top bottom of cookie.

https://youtu.be/Kx2U5HAIfeQ
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 22, 2015, 11:10:25 am
Whatever works best for you Kevin. If it's just short clips you could do whatever quality.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 22, 2015, 12:48:51 pm
Whatever works best for you Kevin. If it's just short clips you could do whatever quality.

Once I get started I dont want to stop except to change chains. So on/off on/off to make the clips separately.

Just finished testing and getting the 6700 ready to ship (airing out now). While I was out there I got a text the other 3 cants are ready.  8)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 22, 2015, 04:09:29 pm
Video looks fine
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 22, 2015, 04:34:57 pm
Just finished working on the last saw so to late today.  :'(
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 22, 2015, 05:01:11 pm
Cant even get into the Post Office parking lot, will send out when I can, probably Monday
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 22, 2015, 09:01:34 pm
The video looks good Kevin.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 09:50:19 am
Temp is right on 54 degrees  ;D, but pouring the rain.   :(:'( grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  :-X
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 23, 2015, 11:04:45 am
Temp is right on 54 degrees  ;D, but pouring the rain.   :(:'( grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  :-X

Enjoy your mud Kevin.

At least it ain't ice...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 11:40:40 am
Video looks fine

Chris right now I would like to NOT buy you a beer.  You sent 46DL chain.   PM Call me text me. I need to break your chain down to 45 or 44.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 11:41:02 am
Temp is right on 54 degrees  ;D, but pouring the rain.   :(:'( grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  :-X

Enjoy your mud Kevin.

At least it ain't ice...

True that.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 12:27:27 pm
@Skippysphins   get hold of me pleassssse   :P :D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 12:29:07 pm
Ran 5 so far and have on video.  2 race 3 work. My chit was slow compared big time.  I swear the other guys work square was close to those 2 race so far. Just by seat of the pants and it was 1st chain ran.

Taking breather.

Going to have to run to pharmacy too for a break. Out of life pills or I could croak out there.  :D :o
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 23, 2015, 12:37:15 pm
@ cut for fun  pm sent
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 01:03:35 pm
@ cut for fun  pm sent

OK will check.


__________________________________________________________________________________

Just finished some more.


Also threw in the stock mac 370 semi chis chain as I was right before knots.  I cut out once and then hit some knots so I made a 4th cut to block off the knots for next chain. Wont matter with the stocker. But letting you know how I was doing it. I also have another saw ready to cut knots out when I get there if a good chain is up.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 23, 2015, 01:07:29 pm
Cut4fun thank you for doing all of this for us .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 23, 2015, 01:59:43 pm
Cut4fun thank you for doing all of this for us .

Yours will be 45dl when I break it down.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 23, 2015, 02:01:11 pm
Ran another set.  Only left recording once while picking up the cookies after cut. On Rogers chain at that.

Will see if I can edit my fat azz out of that. If I cant it is what it is because I aint smart with that sort of stuff.

Taking breather.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 23, 2015, 02:07:29 pm
I guess you should not break and spin chain when enjoying adult road sodas
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 23, 2015, 02:07:43 pm
That white pine cuts like butter with some of those chains. 

Man if I had a racesaw or hot woods port right now it would make anything look like it  flying.   :o
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 23, 2015, 02:08:15 pm
I guess you should not break and spin chain when enjoying adult road sodas

Not till all done. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 23, 2015, 02:53:21 pm
So did mine come in last ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 23, 2015, 02:59:58 pm
Ran another set.  Only left recording once while picking up the cookies after cut. On Rogers chain at that.

Will see if I can edit my fat azz out of that. If I cant it is what it is because I aint smart with that sort of stuff.

Taking breather.
No biggie I would not worry about it.   
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 23, 2015, 03:01:12 pm
Cant even get into the Post Office parking lot, will send out when I can, probably Monday

Had to walk away just now  :o. Settle my nerves and stupidity for not wearing my chaps.

Your work chain that was filed all the way back on cutter.  Broke in 3rd cut. Thank God above it wasnt on a stronger faster saw.   The chain stayed in the cut and slapped around. Will load video with 2 good cuts and then broke in 3rd.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 23, 2015, 03:44:22 pm
Make sure I aint missing anyone.

w = work, r = race, sq = square, rd = round

concretegazer w  sq  ps
concretegazer  r  sq  ps3
cut4fun  w rd ps3
cut4fun w sq ps
squarefile r sq ps
squarefile w rd ps3
660mag w sq ps3
al smith w sq ps
stock mac 370 semi chis
rjames w sq ps3
aclarke r sq ps
3000 fps r sq ps3 with safety bumpers removed making ps
1manband r rd ps
awol w sq ps
stock ps3
skippysphins w sq ps
hedgerow r sq ps
awol r sq ps
mdavlee r sq ps
ch74 w rd ps3
moparmyway w sq ps
moparmyway w sq ps3
jmester w sq ps
jmester w rd ps
stock ps
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 04:21:55 pm
Ran another set.  Only left recording once while picking up the cookies after cut. On Rogers chain at that.

Will see if I can edit my fat azz out of that. If I cant it is what it is because I aint smart with that sort of stuff.

Taking breather.
No biggie I would not worry about it.   

I went and looked at that video to why I got distracted. 

3rd cut appeared thin at top left side corner. In real racing that cookie would be a DQ. The kerf of the chain was in the wood but busted through on that tip.
If that 3rd cookie is the slower cut no problem. But if it was 1 of the 2 keeper cuts. I have the same piece wood cant left outside and can make a single cut to give a 3rd cut.


________________________________________________________

Moparmyway  your chain broke in several places so there is no getting that 3rd cut in. Those 2 cuts is all you got for time average. It's right where you angle down on the rivet tie strap area square filling and it cut the drive links in places to weaken them.


________________________________________________________________

I will start video uploads when I get back from town. Once that is done I will post links here.

Then you all time them and post what your get for all 3 times 2 on one.  On the stock ones I did 4 cuts on 2 of them when I was cutting out knots etc.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 23, 2015, 04:55:58 pm
Awesome can't wait . and thank you
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on December 23, 2015, 05:27:00 pm
How would you go about timing off a video? I have never done that before. You have my chains correct. i will be interested on mine to see witch one is  faster round or square.The list you posted is that how you are running them? Are you trying to have them finished by Christmas?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 23, 2015, 05:34:02 pm
Kevin I changed mine to PS3 on your list.   That is what I started with.   It had the safety bumpers when I started with it. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 05:45:17 pm
Kevin I changed mine to PS3 on your list.   That is what I started with.   It had the safety bumpers when I started with it. 

But it is ps now. ;)  it's all good you have a lot of work in that one. I was impressed with your first chain build off chain.

Added the info so folks know.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 05:51:46 pm
How would you go about timing off a video? I have never done that before. You have my chains correct. i will be interested on mine to see witch one is  faster round or square.The list you posted is that how you are running them? Are you trying to have them finished by Christmas?

When the chain hits top of cant start till the cookie is cut at bottom stop on a stopwatch.

Yep that was the order they were run.

I cut cants in half and worked out to the end about a foot foothalf left on ends.  Thats how they done it at Chardon for the races so both ends were same for 2 cutters in same cant.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 05:57:08 pm
I hope to have all the videos uploaded and posted in  thread by 9pm I hope.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 23, 2015, 06:36:01 pm
Kevin I changed mine to PS3 on your list.   That is what I started with.   It had the safety bumpers when I started with it. 

But it is ps now. ;)  it's all good you have a lot of work in that one. I was impressed with your first chain build off chain.

Added the info so folks know.

Ok.  Sorry I did not know you were listing that way.   I will leave it alone.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 06:49:46 pm
I am going to make a separate thread and put the chain build off videos in it. Then I will merge  to here when it is done.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 07:05:39 pm
17 of 25 uploaded.  This is slower then my chain. LOL
Title: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 07:18:25 pm
https://youtu.be/cZciRGhOQjI
https://youtu.be/daY_7TJchmk
https://youtu.be/PGlF4Z93Mbo
https://youtu.be/bE8rMa9i0xs
https://youtu.be/jUZkArVKIRU
https://youtu.be/yPnzuetNKw8
https://youtu.be/q4MRwtBLL7Y
https://youtu.be/oU235BmN4EI
https://youtu.be/Uzp56tEW7_w
https://youtu.be/SuLgjA6kwZQ
https://youtu.be/0QOG0rNrjJo
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 07:20:06 pm
https://youtu.be/_SLvj7cFVUU
https://youtu.be/d-BoA4XEuCs
https://youtu.be/fgLxQGFEzxs
https://youtu.be/MVBBCeMTG4o
https://youtu.be/xPQFKfh_2V4
https://youtu.be/FK5mIFHYKHg
https://youtu.be/49eR1zqEMvo
https://youtu.be/8jLUoCqxww0
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 23, 2015, 07:22:58 pm
 ;D   Yep videos take awhile to do.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 07:36:06 pm
3 to go
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 23, 2015, 07:50:40 pm
I'm still not sure the chain I sent will be any faster than the stocker..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 23, 2015, 07:52:41 pm
Me either ,
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 07:56:20 pm
The last chain run was the stock ps. The 3rd cut was right close to a knot.

IMO there was some chains that needed pushed, some that fed great.

You could feel the difference in the rough cuts and the smooth cuts.   I cant remember whos all chains that impressed me in the cut but there was several.

Thank you all for giving me the opportunity to run some chains like this again.  I enjoyed it and it was great temps for it.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 07:56:49 pm
https://youtu.be/2InqouxgEBo
https://youtu.be/ZhgUBBw1TdY
https://youtu.be/16p6QLNU2W0
https://youtu.be/wcTio4qx6XE
https://youtu.be/HKSYZFfJXUI
https://youtu.be/XyMDowrSxZc
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 08:00:48 pm
Videos http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/chain-build-off/chain-build-off-videos/new/#new

Going to leave there so we can time them all there and get times posted.  Post up what you come up with.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 08:01:33 pm
I'll merge everything later.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 08:03:33 pm
Time them and post up the times you get for the cuts. 

I wont start doing this till later myself. Heck my stopwatch is in the barn somewhere.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 08:13:28 pm
2nd squarefile chain.  W and R   Suppose to be W work and RD round
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: jmester on December 23, 2015, 08:19:01 pm
Very nice looking chains guys
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: mdavlee . on December 23, 2015, 08:29:48 pm
For the Race you had marked I got
Squarefile 3.9
Awol 4.23
concretegrazer 4.25
3000fps 4.25
Squarefile ps3 4.3   not race, work round  W and R was suppose to be W RD
Mdavlee 4.35

Mike fixed this post.  ;)  Cut4fun  :P
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Skippysphins on December 23, 2015, 08:34:37 pm
Looks like I'm last
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 08:36:58 pm
For the Race you had marked I got
Squarefile 3.9
Awol 4.23
concretegrazer 4.25
3000fps 4.25
Squarefile ps3 4.3  not race, work round  W and R was suppose to be W RD
Mdavlee 4.35

Average of 3?

We need all cuts timed, throw out the slow 1, then 2 fastest then those for average.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 08:38:19 pm
Shaun squarefile was only one that tunneled his race chain. That I remember.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 23, 2015, 08:43:11 pm
Thanks cut4fun
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 08:44:39 pm
Time all cuts.

Keep only 2 fastest for times.

Then average the 2 fastest cuts.

Wasnt that how we decided. Use the average of the 2 fastest times.

I will try and time much later.

Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: mdavlee . on December 23, 2015, 08:48:40 pm
I threw out the slowest which was the first except for 3000fps. His last cut was. I timed them all twice and wrote them down. Then did some math. Real close on a few so some I timed a 3rd time.

Thanks Kevin.

I guess tunneling did help on these.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 08:52:36 pm
I threw out the slowest which was the first except for 3000fps. His last cut was. I timed them all twice and wrote them down. Then did some math. Real close on a few so some I timed a 3rd time.

Thanks Kevin.

I guess tunneling did help on these.

Very cool. Now I dont have to worry about Roger's chain.

Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: mdavlee . on December 23, 2015, 08:55:02 pm
Stock ps was 5.31. A lot of the square work chains were in the 4.6-4.8 range.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 08:58:36 pm
For the Race you had marked I got
Squarefile 3.9
Awol 4.23
concretegrazer 4.25
3000fps 4.25
Squarefile ps3 4.3   not race, work round  W and R was suppose to be W RD
Mdavlee 4.35

Mike fixed this post.  ;)  Cut4fun  :P

Missing Hedgerow race chain in that group.  Missing Aclarke race chain. 1manband round race chain too.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Hedgerow on December 23, 2015, 09:03:01 pm
Stock ps was 5.31. A lot of the square work chains were in the 4.6-4.8 range.
Which shows the square corner is still a better cutting design than the round.
Now to decide what this stuff responds best to..
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: mdavlee . on December 23, 2015, 09:06:20 pm
I did the drop the slowest and averaged the 2 fastest. I think Adams chain will probably do better with more power driving it as will a lot of these. Someone else feel free to time all of these and see if you get any differences. Usually there's 2 or 3 timers for races so the more the merrier. ;D

Squarefile 3.9
Awol 4.23
concretegrazer 4.25
3000fps 4.25
Squarefile ps3 4.3   not race, work round  W and R was suppose to be W RD
Mdavlee 4.35
Hedgerow 4.65
1manband 5.24
Aclarke 5.52
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: jmester on December 23, 2015, 09:08:32 pm
I got for my chains.
square work- 1-4:45 2-4:60 3-4:56  Average 4.50
Round work- 1-5:80 2- 4.77 3-5:09  Average 4.93

Anyone want to check my work?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 23, 2015, 09:20:30 pm
No stop watch here
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 23, 2015, 09:24:09 pm
Wow the Squarefile race chain was fast.   How in the world did he get something in there to tunnel the cutter.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 09:24:43 pm
I tell you what. This would have been killer in freezing weather.   So glad it was warm.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 09:27:11 pm
Wow the Squarefile race chain was fast.   How in the world did he get something in there to tunnel the cutter.

I dont know what Shaun used. Maybe he will tell.

But there is a 1/8" round file out there used to use on bigger chain.  Maybe it fits this too or something smaller out there.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 09:29:24 pm
Just so you folks know. I did not take any still pics or video of anyone's chains to show around.  I aint like that.  :P

Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 23, 2015, 09:35:36 pm
I tried timing Concretegazer and myself and those chains are so close I cannot tell which is faster.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 23, 2015, 09:37:12 pm
I tell you what. This would have been killer in freezing weather.   So glad it was warm.

Yes I agree Kevin.   Thanks for taking the time.   This was interesting for me to say the least and was a lot of fun.   
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 09:39:07 pm
Roger, I need to tell you about your chain and something I noticed when it was shipped and arrived. I never saw it before and was a pita.

Good time to call or text?
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 09:39:50 pm
So how much faster was Shauns chain over the fastest avg stock chain. % wise?
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: awol on December 23, 2015, 09:41:01 pm
   Please feel free to post pics of my chain anywhere. The only reason I didn't is because the files were to large to upload.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 09:44:11 pm
Those that give permission I could lay them on the pool table and try and get a pic.  1% chance I get a decent pic.

Shaun squarefiles  chain would be a nice one to look at  ;)  he does nice work. 
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: mdavlee . on December 23, 2015, 09:45:50 pm
You can take all the pictures of mine you want.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: mdavlee . on December 23, 2015, 09:46:25 pm
So how much faster was Shauns chain over the fastest avg stock chain. % wise?
25%
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: awol on December 23, 2015, 09:47:24 pm
   26.6%

   Woops, Mike beat me to it!
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: concretegrazer on December 23, 2015, 09:49:37 pm
Feel free to share mine as well.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: concretegrazer on December 23, 2015, 09:53:40 pm
I've just timed the first post videos so far. Mike I've time my 1st & 2nd race cuts several times and the 1st is always faster. Can you recheck them? Maybe I'm getting a glitch.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 23, 2015, 10:01:44 pm
My results are very close to what Gatekeeper got.   Race Chains only results.

Squarefile.        4.01
AWOL.              4.21
Concretegazer   4.31
3000 FPS          4.31
Mdavlee            4.38
Hedgegrow        4.57
1manband         5.24
Aclarke              5.54

Results from Gatekeeper.

Squarefile                3.9
Awol                       4.23
concretegrazer        4.25
3000fps                  4.25
Squarefile ps3 4.3   not race, work round  W and R was suppose to be W RD
Mdavlee                 4.35
Hedgerow               4.65
1manband              5.24
Aclarke                   5.52
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Hedgerow on December 23, 2015, 10:03:01 pm
Those that give permission I could lay them on the pool table and try and get a pic.  1% chance I get a decent pic.

Shaun squarefiles  chain would be a nice one to look at  ;)  he does nice work. 
You can take all the pictures of mine you want.
Pic away Kevin..
Nothin top secret on mine..
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 23, 2015, 10:03:36 pm
Roger, I need to tell you about your chain and something I noticed when it was shipped and arrived. I never saw it before and was a pita.

Good time to call or text?


Any time Kevin.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: concretegrazer on December 23, 2015, 10:10:35 pm
The 3 race chains I have timed so far...
Squarefile.              3.965
Concretegrazer.     4.345
Aclarke.                   5.59

I'm no pro so feel free to disregard my #'s
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: mdavlee . on December 23, 2015, 10:17:50 pm
I've just timed the first post videos so far. Mike I've time my 1st & 2nd race cuts several times and the 1st is always faster. Can you recheck them? Maybe I'm getting a glitch.
Maybe so. I don't have the pad in front of me now.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 23, 2015, 10:18:37 pm
No stop watch here
Smartphone if yours watching on the computer.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on December 23, 2015, 10:55:22 pm
Very nice sawing skills Cut.
So who has the final say on the times? I had to have my wife help me with the times i did for mine. My reaction time is not the best.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 10:55:38 pm
   26.6%

   Woops, Mike beat me to it!

Thanks you 2. Thats some good gains.  Even on a 39cc stock saw.  :o
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 11:25:19 pm
Time all cuts.

Keep only 2 fastest for times.

Then average the 2 fastest cuts.

 

I will try and time much later.



Know you 2 are into all this timing stuff now days @SquareFile  @DexterDay  would you 2 mind timing the chains and post your results too.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: SquareFile on December 23, 2015, 11:39:33 pm
I'm still calling mine round or hybrid. Lol

Thanks for taking the time and effort.

Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 11:46:11 pm
Guys timing, was my 2 fastest cuts per chain pretty consistent? 
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 11:49:26 pm
I'm still calling mine round or hybrid. Lol

Thanks for taking the time and effort.



I have to look at that fast bugger again. I just glanced over it never really  paid attention.

Do you care if I TRY and get a pic of tunneling so folks understand it.

Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 11:50:01 pm
I also need to find one that was stoned to try and show so folks understand that too.

Was talking about it and some didnt know about this.

Would someone more in the know like to explain tunneling and stoning please.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 11:54:57 pm
Very nice sawing skills Cut.
So who has the final say on the times? I had to have my wife help me with the times i did for mine. My reaction time is not the best.

All of us.

Also folks jmester has hooked me up with a picco bar modded today to fit the woods ported 026 with 3/8 7T.  Saved me all the hand work on this. Thank You!   
Thread. http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/chain/12'-picco-stihl-026/


(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh535/jmester/image_7.jpeg)

Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: SquareFile on December 23, 2015, 11:55:19 pm
I'm still calling mine round or hybrid. Lol

Thanks for taking the time and effort.



I have to look at that fast bugger again. I just glanced over it never really  paid attention.


Do you care if I TRY and get a pic of tunneling so folks understand it.



I don't mind at all. I'm comfident it'll like a more powerful saw.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 23, 2015, 11:58:38 pm
Anyone got anything close for the work chains?  Remember that one for SF is work round filed chain.  Says W R on cant but is W RD.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: concretegrazer on December 23, 2015, 11:58:53 pm
I'm still calling mine round or hybrid. Lol

Thanks for taking the time and effort.
I don't care what you call it it was a fast little buger. Congrats on the win.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 12:04:51 am
Bet your azz I will be wearing chaps next round.  :o :P
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 24, 2015, 12:06:28 am
Thanks for showing that Squarefile.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 12:09:01 am
My results are very close to what Gatekeeper got.   Race Chains only results.

Squarefile.        4.01
AWOL.              4.21
Concretegazer   4.31
3000 FPS          4.31
Mdavlee            4.38
Hedgegrow        4.57
1manband         5.24
Aclarke              5.54

Results from Gatekeeper.

Squarefile                3.9
Awol                       4.23
concretegrazer        4.25
3000fps                  4.25
Mdavlee                 4.35
Hedgerow               4.65
1manband              5.24
Aclarke                   5.52


So impressed with your guys filing.

So how do you think your chains will act on a woods ported 026 by Dozerdan Dan Henry with 3/8 7T?

Its not the fastest 3ci by far, but a super nice limbing type saw IMO. These should be a perfect match.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 12:10:35 am
Thanks for showing that Squarefile.

Trying to make it little bigger.

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5506.0;attach=16258;image)
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: concretegrazer on December 24, 2015, 12:13:11 am
Guys timing, was my 2 fastest cuts per chain pretty consistent?

I think so. I'll post the rest of the times I got up in the morning.

Thanks again for doing this. It's been a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on December 24, 2015, 12:17:27 am
Very nice sawing skills Cut.
So who has the final say on the times? I had to have my wife help me with the times i did for mine. My reaction time is not the best.

All of us.

Also folks jmester has hooked me up with a picco bar modded today to fit the woods ported 026 with 3/8 7T.  Saved me all the hand work on this. Thank You!   
Thread. http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/chain/12'-picco-stihl-026/


(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh535/jmester/image_7.jpeg)

That's a lot better than the hack job I did to get one to fit a husky small mount. Nice work jmester.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: concretegrazer on December 24, 2015, 12:22:35 am
Anyone got anything close for the work chains?  Remember that one for SF is work round filed chain.  Says W R on cant but is W RD.

Fastest work I have is your square @ 4.335 then Squarefile @ 4.4
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 12:26:17 am
Anyone got anything close for the work chains?  Remember that one for SF is work round filed chain.  Says W R on cant but is W RD.

Fastest work I have is your square @ 4.335 then Squarefile @ 4.4

You sure me?   :o 

If it was me. Just glad I was faster then stock.   :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 24, 2015, 12:32:08 am
I still have a 12" on my Poulan 260. 42cc saw.   I was just using it again today and I think I will leave it that way.   I have some split wood that I like to cut in half and then split it down even more for kindling.   Plus it makes it light weight.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 12:34:44 am
I have always liked a 12" bar on my little poulans, husky 338's, stihl 200t, solo 637T , echo 340T, etc etc.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: concretegrazer on December 24, 2015, 12:38:25 am
Anyone got anything close for the work chains?  Remember that one for SF is work round filed chain.  Says W R on cant but is W RD.

Fastest work I have is your square @ 4.335 then Squarefile @ 4.4

You sure me?   :o 

If it was me. Just glad I was faster then stock.   

Remember I'm no pro at timing. So don't throw a party just yet....
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 12:42:17 am


Anyone got anything close for the work chains?  Remember that one for SF is work round filed chain.  Says W R on cant but is W RD.

Fastest work I have is your square @ 4.335 then Squarefile @ 4.4

You sure me?   :o 

If it was me. Just glad I was faster then stock.   

Remember I'm no pro at timing. So don't trow a party just yet....

No partys here.  Just 1 ole man having a few gooooood brews and almost 

(https://jeffwalker.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/sanford_thebigone.jpg)
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 01:24:14 am
Anything you see that I need to do different for rd 2?
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Skippysphins on December 24, 2015, 01:27:23 am
After watching my video I'm not sure I even beat PS stock chain
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: concretegrazer on December 24, 2015, 01:27:54 am
Anything you see that I need to do different for rd 2?
Put Squarefiles chains on backwards?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 24, 2015, 01:34:23 am
Going just by naked eye if I had to guess the stock PS beat my chain
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 01:39:22 am
Anything you see that I need to do different for rd 2?
Put Squarefiles chains on backwards?

I think I was told to stone it with a belt sander.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Nhogooc9-jE/U5X92CYCFII/AAAAAAAAIQ4/__k3uGjhVkA/s1600/rofl-smiley.png)
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Skippysphins on December 24, 2015, 02:04:44 am
Lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 24, 2015, 05:34:47 am
Sorry for that little surprise Cut !
I'll be looking at the videos in a little bit, did the strap pull through the rivet, or did the strap seperate and spread at the rivet ?

Gullet work got them that low into the straps
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: DexterDay on December 24, 2015, 06:22:11 am
I'll watch the videos and get some times posted up tonight..

Thus was put together very well Kevin. Nice job to you and all the filers!!
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Moparmyway on December 24, 2015, 06:28:49 am
Nice work guys !!
Square Files and AWOLS chains looked fast and smoothe !!



Mopar .............. broke and limping home  :-[
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: ch74 on December 24, 2015, 08:00:12 am
Awesome, cut4. That is just plane awesome. Well it looked like my work chain wasn't last. lol...
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: ch74 on December 24, 2015, 08:00:49 am
Going to work ill be on later tonight if all the inlaws dont come over.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 08:08:37 am
Sorry for that little surprise Cut !
I'll be looking at the videos in a little bit, did the strap pull through the rivet, or did the strap seperate and spread at the rivet ?

Gullet work got them that low into the straps

OK to try and take a pic?  Broke in more then one place on chain. Drive links where the rivet goes through. Weakened and pulled apart from my quick glance.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 24, 2015, 09:21:47 am
Sorry for that little surprise Cut !
I'll be looking at the videos in a little bit, did the strap pull through the rivet, or did the strap seperate and spread at the rivet ?

Gullet work got them that low into the straps

OK to try and take a pic?  Broke in more then one place on chain. Drive links where the rivet goes through. Weakened and pulled apart from my quick glance.
Put them up ........... post-catastrophic analysis is allways fun
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 11:05:15 am


Anyone got anything close for the work chains?  Remember that one for SF is work round filed chain.  Says W R on cant but is W RD.

Fastest work I have is your square @ 4.335 then Squarefile @ 4.4

You sure me?   :o 

If it was me. Just glad I was faster then stock.   

Remember I'm no pro at timing. So don't trow a party just yet....

No partys here.  Just 1 ole man having a few gooooood brews and almost 

(https://jeffwalker.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/sanford_thebigone.jpg)

I just did these 2 chains. Now granted my video was lagging at times (so would have to reload and do again) here doing straight from this thread  ( DSL only here so not great) .   

But I had squarefile work 4.3's for 2 and faster  then my work 4.4's for 2.

So Shaun have you timed these 2 and averaged their fastest 2 times?  Someone with a good connection. 

Was all the work timed and there was none faster?

Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 11:15:53 am
I just remembered I have the original files on my HD.  Bypass youtube and my lagging.   

Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 11:25:55 am
Doing it off the HD much better.  I have squarefiles 2 fastest average faster then my 2 fastest by 5 hundredth faster.

SF 4.40 4.34 - 4.37
C4 4.38 4.46 - 4.42

Let me know what you come up with.

Also anyone's work faster?
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 11:27:43 am
@SquareFile  you getting close to the same I am getting above?
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: SquareFile on December 24, 2015, 11:30:52 am
I didn't time any videos. My internet is slow. Taking y'alls word for it.

Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 11:33:46 am
I didn't time any videos. My internet is slow. Taking y'alls word for it.



There was 2-3 of us that had a round that looked like yours but didnt cut with yours. 

You use a 3/16th file too?
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 11:36:32 am
Its one of those deals if we were at the races it would come down to timers timing in real time.  Whoever had the 2 best timers would win for sure.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 11:38:01 am
Did anyone time the 2 fastest cuts from the stock PS and PS3?
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: concretegrazer on December 24, 2015, 11:44:47 am
Doing it off the HD much better.  I have squarefiles 2 fastest average faster then my 2 fastest by 5 hundredth faster.

SF 4.40 4.34 - 4.37
C4 4.38 4.46 - 4.42

Let me know what you come up with.

Also anyone's work faster?
Like I said I'm no good at this. Lol.

I had you @ 4.34 and Squarefile @ 4.4. Just redid those 2 and your @ 4.47 & Squarefile is @ 4.46. The next closest was 660 @ 4.64

I'll post my times if you like but....
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 11:49:51 am
Doing it off the HD much better.  I have squarefiles 2 fastest average faster then my 2 fastest by 5 hundredth faster.

SF 4.40 4.34 - 4.37
C4 4.38 4.46 - 4.42

Let me know what you come up with.

Also anyone's work faster?
Like I said I'm no good at this. Lol.

I had you @ 4.34 and Squarefile @ 4.4. Just redid those 2 and your @ 4.47 & Squarefile is @ 4.46. The next closest was 660 @ 4.64

I'll post my times if you like but....

Post up.  8)

Thanks..........................................
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 11:52:08 am
@SquareFile

What model saws do you want me to use to try and make your race winner and work winner badges from?  Look at the ones beside the saw boards etc.

Congrats
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 12:03:16 pm
Cant wait for round 2 now. This was fun for me  :P.  Got the ole man adrenalin going again.  ;D

I was still geeked up last night to AM time after running all the cuts. Of coarse a lot of those 10% to 8% brews might of had alot to do with that too afterwords.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 12:05:42 pm
The old homie with the long bar might allow me to get the full words on it Shaun?

(http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/styles/chainsawrepair/catimgs/9.jpeg)
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: SquareFile on December 24, 2015, 12:17:06 pm
@SquareFile

What model saws do you want me to use to try and make your race winner and work winner badges from?  Look at the ones beside the saw boards etc.

Congrats
Lol.

It doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: concretegrazer on December 24, 2015, 12:24:44 pm
Workclass

Squarefile.            4.46
Cut4fun.                4.47
660mag.               4.64
Concretegrazer.   4.66
Ch74.                     4.68
Jmester. Sq          4.74
Awol.                     4.84
Mopar. Ps3           4.93
Rjames.                 5.10
Mopar.                   5.17
Jmester. Rd.         5.33
Skippysphins.       6.40
Al smith.                7.08

       
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: mdavlee . on December 24, 2015, 12:47:15 pm
Did anyone time the 2 fastest cuts from the stock PS and PS3?
PS I had 5.3 average.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 24, 2015, 01:01:22 pm
This is what I got for the work class chains.   Not definitive but out there for comparison.

Stock                PS       5.07
Stock                PS3      4.74

Squarefile          Rd      4.31
Cut4fun             Sq      4.39
Jmester             Sq      4.49
Ch74                 Rd      4.52
660Mag             Sq      4.59
Concretegazer    Sq      4.63
Moparmyway      Sq      4.66
AWOL                Sq      4.73
Moparmyway      Sq       5.06
Jmester              Rd      5.08
Cut4fun              Rd       5.14
Rjames               Sq      5.16
1manband          Rd       5.24
Aclarke               Sq       5.54
Skippysphins        Sq        6.15
Alsmith               Sq       6.97
Stockmac 370    semichisel   7.67
 
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Skippysphins on December 24, 2015, 01:05:39 pm
Wow I didn't finish last that's amazing .  my chain was a joke . cut4 fun a quick question did you have to push on mine or did it self feed . I am thinking you had to push on it .with those slow times.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun on December 24, 2015, 01:07:33 pm
@SquareFile

What model saws do you want me to use to try and make your race winner and work winner badges from?  Look at the ones beside the saw boards etc.

Congrats
Lol.

It doesn't matter.

Could use the username chainbuildoff avatar too.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun on December 24, 2015, 01:08:12 pm
Wow I didn't finish last that's amazing .  my chain was a joke . cut4 fun a quick question did you have to push on mine or did it self feed . I am thinking you had to push on it .with those slow times.

If I remember it didnt self feed at all and needed pushed to cut.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Moparmyway on December 24, 2015, 01:20:30 pm
I have another work PS somewhere ............. have to find it and file it, when will you be running these on the larger saw ?
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: concretegrazer on December 24, 2015, 01:29:26 pm
Missed a couple.


Workclass

Squarefile.            4.46
Cut4fun.                4.47
660mag.               4.64
Concretegrazer.   4.66
Ch74.                     4.68
Jmester. Sq          4.74
Awol.                     4.84
Mopar. Ps3           4.93
Rjames.                 5.10
Mopar.                   5.17
Cut4fun. Rd          5.17
Jmester. Rd.         5.33
Skippysphins.       6.4
Al smith.                7.08

Ps.                          5.27
Ps3.                        4.97
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: aclarke on December 24, 2015, 01:36:07 pm
Kev, thanks for all your hard work on the vids! Very cool..
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: concretegrazer on December 24, 2015, 01:36:17 pm
I tried timing Concretegazer and myself and those chains are so close I cannot tell which is faster.
Yours looks smoother to me. Which is no surprise to me.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 24, 2015, 01:56:56 pm
Some of those work chains were close enough that I went back and timed them up to 3 times.   

I think running the saw could have been more fun then timing all those videos and making sure you have them all correct with double and triple checks on some of them.   

I do think though you did a good job Kevin.   I would not have been so consistent thru the wood chain after chain.     Also the double rev you did right before putting the saw into the wood helped with the timing.   
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 24, 2015, 02:02:20 pm
I wanted to put these two together so that a comparison can be done.         

 3000 FPS timing of Videos.  Work chains 

Stock                PS      5.07         
Stock                PS3      4.74

Squarefile          Rd      4.31                             Race Chains  timing of videos by 3000 FPS
Cut4fun             Sq      4.39                                 
Jmester             Sq      4.49                             Squarefile            4.01
Ch74                 Rd      4.52                             Awol                    4.21
660Mag             Sq      4.59                             Concretegrazer     4.31
Concretegazer    Sq      4.63                             3000 FPS              4.31
AWOL                Sq      4.73                             Mdavlee               4.38
Moparmyway      Sq       5.06                            Hedgegrow           4.57
Jmester              Rd      5.08                             1manband            5.24
Cut4fun              Rd       5.14                            Aclarke                 5.54
Rjames               Sq      5.16
1manband          Rd       5.24
Aclarke               Sq       5.54
Skippysphins        Sq        6.15
Alsmith               Sq       6.97
Stockmac 370    semichisel   7.67
 

Concretegazer timing of videos. Work chains.
Squarefile.            4.46                                       Race chains timing of videos by Gatekeeper
Cut4fun.                4.47                                     
660mag.               4.64                                       Squarefile           3.9
Concretegrazer.   4.66                                         Awol                   4.23
Ch74.                     4.68                                     Concretegazer      4.25
Jmester. Sq          4.74                                        3000 FPS             4.25
Awol.                     4.84                                      Mdavlee                4.35     
Mopar. Ps3           4.93                                        Hedgegrow           4.65
Rjames.                 5.10                                      1manband             5.24
Mopar.                   5.17                                      Aclarke                  5.52
Cut4fun. Rd          5.17
Jmester. Rd.         5.33
Skippysphins.       6.4
Al smith.                7.08

Ps.                          5.27
Ps3.                        4.97

Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun on December 24, 2015, 02:27:18 pm
I have another work PS somewhere ............. have to find it and file it, when will you be running these on the larger saw ?

Maybe next month.

It will be noted and in 2nd group with folks wanting to send in different chain.  I think Adam, Willard said something about sending one in for the 3ci.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun on December 24, 2015, 02:31:38 pm
@SquareFile

What model saws do you want me to use to try and make your race winner and work winner badges from?  Look at the ones beside the saw boards etc.

Congrats
Lol.

It doesn't matter.

Got the square badge made since you cant see it to read it. That was race one under your name now in badges. 

Says Chain Build Off WINNER  Race PS  2015

Will work on a work one later with different coloring.

Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun on December 24, 2015, 02:35:49 pm
Kev, thanks for all your hard work on the vids! Very cool..

Thanks Adam.   

Think of anything I could do different to approve it?  I think I thought of about all I could do so folks could see and know which chains etc,
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun on December 24, 2015, 02:36:36 pm
Think I could go ahead and merge the threads now?  Seems good.

Will do round 2 videos and thread same way.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun on December 24, 2015, 02:44:10 pm

I do think though you did a good job Kevin.   I would not have been so consistent thru the wood chain after chain.     Also the double rev you did right before putting the saw into the wood helped with the timing.   

Habit I got from over the wood racing. 

Much funner for me doing the cuts and listening to the motor.  If we hadnt thrown out the slowest cut finishes would have been different on some.  I could tell on first cuts if I needed to let up or push more.   Some with slower 3rd cut I might have pushed to much. But think that would be a minority.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 24, 2015, 03:13:08 pm
Ok Kevin I got all the results on one post.   I put them in the above post number 1212
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 03:20:49 pm
Ok Kevin I got all the results on one post.   I put them in the above post number 1212

Thank You............


Showing 70 degrees LOL

Aftermath.

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Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 03:28:02 pm
I got all those times now printed out and saved.  Put with times I have on file back to 05-07 time frame.  Thanks for all the timing guys.

If I would have had someone timing while I was cutting it would have gone to slow IMO. Being able to get in a groove and go was much faster moving along IMO
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 24, 2015, 04:15:01 pm
Cut4fun when is the next race ? I will send another or changed same chain. I did not touch my rakers at all.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 04:16:08 pm
Cut4fun when is the next race ? I will send another or changed same chain. I did not touch my rakers at all.

Me either. Not your rakers.  ;)

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 04:16:49 pm
Stock PS PS3 ?  http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/chain/ps-ps3-test/new/#new

Since the stock chains were only tested near knots and used to cut big block areas off too. That way the clear wood was for the chains sent in.

Want me to test the 2 new PS PS3 stock chains in clear wood.   Could use the echo 3900 39cc then the echo 4500 45cc that is like the OE 346 in the cut.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on December 24, 2015, 04:31:42 pm
Those are some very nice chips in that pile
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 24, 2015, 04:54:54 pm
OMG I WASN'T EXPECTING THAT ....THIS IS AWESOME....... :o top five ill take that... im holdong it down for us rounders. Wahoo....Cut4 your awesome.
I didn't touch the rakers and I just sneezed on each tooth with the file. And I also left the bumper links on. Fwiw.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 24, 2015, 04:58:44 pm
My theory worked out I guess.
Im NOT tooting my own horn im just excited.  ;D
This site is awesome.
Thanks to MOPAR AND CUT4FUN....
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 24, 2015, 05:03:51 pm
That echo sounded good Cut. I love the sound of jap saws in wood.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on December 24, 2015, 06:40:10 pm
fun!

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 24, 2015, 07:39:25 pm
fun!



Absolutely +1.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 08:41:43 pm
@SquareFile

Both badges should be under your name at bottom. Not much but something nobody else has here.  ;)


Congrats on the chain sharpening, good job.  8)

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 08:45:28 pm
Guess who I would like to make a mini DOH! badge for.   ;D :P  Mr. 46DL  ;D

(http://mets360.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/homer-doh.png)
Title: oRe: Chain build off
Post by: awol on December 24, 2015, 08:52:47 pm
    Well, its been fun! Thanks for all the hard work and time spent. We will try again next time!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 08:54:17 pm
    Well, its been fun! Thanks for all the hard work and time spent. We will try again next time!

Going to run a round 2 on a woods ported 026 in Jan I hope.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 24, 2015, 09:00:30 pm
@SquareFile

Both badges should be under your name at bottom. Not much but something nobody else has here.  ;)


Congrats on the chain sharpening, good job.  8)


Thanks.

DD026 have a larger carb? Like a HD
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on December 24, 2015, 09:01:45 pm
   My race entry will finish farther back on a stronger saw, I think. Depending on your Echo saw, I figure you had to push on mine just a tiny bit.

   No need to worry about it breaking though, it held up on my sporty p5000, and it has a LOT of chain speed.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 09:06:31 pm
@SquareFile

Both badges should be under your name at bottom. Not much but something nobody else has here.  ;)


Congrats on the chain sharpening, good job.  8)


Thanks.

DD026 have a larger carb? Like a HD

Nope no bigger 044 intake or carb. Limbing saw IMO.  Even though I used to buck with 20" 325 RS and 7T
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on December 24, 2015, 09:26:31 pm
Good fun. I was impressed with my square chain. Not so much on the round. I will be interested to see how they do on the 026. Squarefile great job on winning both classes.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 24, 2015, 09:30:57 pm
Thanks to all even if no one response to my post.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 24, 2015, 09:33:13 pm
Fun was had by all. Can't wait to see the results. Some chains will speed up and some will slow down with more power. They won't be able to clear chips.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 09:34:14 pm
Thanks to all even if no one response to my post.

What post? Been busy opening gifts with family today.   
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 09:38:26 pm
   My race entry will finish farther back on a stronger saw, I think. Depending on your Echo saw, I figure you had to push on mine just a tiny bit.

   No need to worry about it breaking though, it held up on my sporty p5000, and it has a LOT of chain speed.

Yep agreed we were building for cc of saw the chain was built for IMO. Going to a bigger cc was a after thought and wondering how they would do. 

IMO I will keep using this chain on my smaller cc saws.  Chain like this IMO is for 40something under. Because my 46cc woods port dozerdan saw pulled full 3/8 like no tomorrow.

Saw like the one I had built by Dan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4R0uImGrp84

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 24, 2015, 09:50:14 pm
i've posted on last few pages. its ok.
i figured everyone was busy.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 24, 2015, 09:51:12 pm
Holly Chit who built that 346 that thing screams.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 24, 2015, 09:51:55 pm
Was that red oak?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 09:55:08 pm
Holly Chit who built that 346 that thing screams.

That is Dan Henry from Pa goes by username dozerdan here.   

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 24, 2015, 09:57:40 pm
OMG I WASN'T EXPECTING THAT ....THIS IS AWESOME....... :o top five ill take that... im holdong it down for us rounders. Wahoo....Cut4 your awesome.
I didn't touch the rakers and I just sneezed on each tooth with the file. And I also left the bumper links on. Fwiw.

This post?

You did great and another first timer.  Thanks for joining in and giving it a go.

I was suprised you left the bumpers when I seen your rakers.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 25, 2015, 12:32:39 am
   My race entry will finish farther back on a stronger saw, I think. Depending on your Echo saw, I figure you had to push on mine just a tiny bit.

   No need to worry about it breaking though, it held up on my sporty p5000, and it has a LOT of chain speed.

Yep agreed we were building for cc of saw the chain was built for IMO. Going to a bigger cc was a after thought and wondering how they would do. 

IMO I will keep using this chain on my smaller cc saws.  Chain like this IMO is for 40something under. Because my 46cc woods port dozerdan saw pulled full 3/8 like no tomorrow.



Yes, these were supposed to be purpose built..
Once on a good 3cube, results will change..

Thanks for doing all this, and to all who participated, Merry Christmas..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 25, 2015, 12:48:38 am
Merry Christmas everyone
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 25, 2015, 01:45:30 am
OMG I WASN'T EXPECTING THAT ....THIS IS AWESOME....... :o top five ill take that... im holdong it down for us rounders. Wahoo....Cut4 your awesome.
I didn't touch the rakers and I just sneezed on each tooth with the file. And I also left the bumper links on. Fwiw.

This post?

You did great and another first timer.  Thanks for joining in and giving it a go.

I was suprised you left the bumpers when I seen your rakers.

Yes I saw your post also Charles.   You did great on your chain.   This was a first time for me also doing a race chain.   The main thing is we all learned something and had some fun in the process.   
Good job.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 25, 2015, 02:29:02 am
Thank you all. I love saws. My theory was spot on though. Clearing chips is more important than anything. 12" or 32".  Cut can slow a pic ofmy chain if he would like, I was going tobut my phone wouldn't.
I would like somepointers crime the vets ona race chain.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 25, 2015, 07:56:59 am
Something I noticed. Work chains top 3 are all from Ohio and we all know each other.   

Top 5

Shaun  guessing hand filed with those things that holds chains? Something like that homelite guy makes?

Kevin I filed my chain on the  bar on the chainsaw with bar in vice. Like I do every hand filed chain for builds.

Jim uses a swing arm

CG Kimmons   I dont know the state or how?

ch74 Fla   ?

Any other filers want to share info?  I can take a pic of mine later. 

Chain tight. Brake on. Big screwdriver in lower bar between it and chain.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 25, 2015, 08:01:52 am
What about the race chain filers.  Any thing to share how you made your chains.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 25, 2015, 09:25:46 am
Something I noticed. Work chains top 3 are all from Ohio and we all know each other.   

Top 5

Shaun  guessing hand filed with those things that holds chains? Something like that homelite guy makes?

Kevin I filed my chain on the  bar on the chainsaw with bar in vice. Like I do every hand filed chain for builds.

Jim uses a swing arm

CG Kimmons   I dont know the state or how?

ch74 Fla   ?

Any other filers want to share info?  I can take a pic of mine later. 

Chain tight. Brake on. Big screwdriver in lower bar between it and chain.
yes, I use the small aluminum vise that Mike makes. I like it very much.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 25, 2015, 09:40:52 am
I use a vise made from some angle iron I had here.    I square ground my chain first and then went back and hand filed it to improve the angles.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on December 25, 2015, 10:00:13 am
Work Chain

I Square ground the new PS3 on a Silvey Swing Arm Grinder. I used one of (Homelite) Mike's chain holder jig's to adjust the rakers. There was absolutely nothing done to the chain other than what would be done before you use it out in the woods to cut firewood. The teeth were not sharpened way back to just leave a minimal tooth dimension. They were only cut back enough to make them square. If I had cut the teeth way back to where there was a greater distance between the the raker and the cutting edge of the tooth, I could have gotten a sharper angle underneath the top plate.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 25, 2015, 10:46:56 am
I used a vise to hold each tooth and free handed gullets and a orgen file guide for tooth and hook filling. 5/32 file on everything.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 25, 2015, 10:49:18 am
Cut, u can show a pic of my chain if u would like.  ;D
I need some pointers from the vets on a race chain. I don't want to do something wrong and someone get hurt.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 25, 2015, 11:23:50 am
Something I noticed. Work chains top 3 are all from Ohio and we all know each other.   

Top 5

Shaun  guessing hand filed with those things that holds chains? Something like that homelite guy makes?

Kevin I filed my chain on the  bar on the chainsaw with bar in vice. Like I do every hand filed chain for builds.

Jim uses a swing arm

CG Kimmons   I dont know the state or how?

ch74 Fla   ?

Any other filers want to share info?  I can take a pic of mine later. 

Chain tight. Brake on. Big screwdriver in lower bar between it and chain.
yes, I use the small aluminum vise that Mike makes. I like it very much.

On your race one. Tunneling under cutter. Did you use the 1/8" file or did you find a file smaller or used something else.  I know I used 1/8" on full size.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 25, 2015, 11:35:24 am
Something I noticed. Work chains top 3 are all from Ohio and we all know each other.   

Top 5

Shaun  guessing hand filed with those things that holds chains? Something like that homelite guy makes?

Kevin I filed my chain on the  bar on the chainsaw with bar in vice. Like I do every hand filed chain for builds.

Jim uses a swing arm

CG Kimmons   I dont know the state or how?

ch74 Fla   ?

Any other filers want to share info?  I can take a pic of mine later. 

Chain tight. Brake on. Big screwdriver in lower bar between it and chain.
yes, I use the small aluminum vise that Mike makes. I like it very much.

On your race one. Tunneling under cutter. Did you use the 1/8" file or did you find a file smaller or used something else.  I know I used 1/8" on full size.
Diamond bits and a dremel
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 25, 2015, 01:46:46 pm
Something I noticed. Work chains top 3 are all from Ohio and we all know each other.   

Top 5

Shaun  guessing hand filed with those things that holds chains? Something like that homelite guy makes?

Kevin I filed my chain on the  bar on the chainsaw with bar in vice. Like I do every hand filed chain for builds.

Jim uses a swing arm

CG Kimmons   I dont know the state or how?

ch74 Fla   ?

Any other filers want to share info?  I can take a pic of mine later. 

Chain tight. Brake on. Big screwdriver in lower bar between it and chain.
yes, I use the small aluminum vise that Mike makes. I like it very much.

On your race one. Tunneling under cutter. Did you use the 1/8" file or did you find a file smaller or used something else.  I know I used 1/8" on full size.
Diamond bits and a dremel

Never thought of that.  8)

I took pics of the broken chain and yours so far.  Was out shooting sons Christmas gift with him and grab some quick pics.  They suk. But you did say ok too right. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on December 25, 2015, 02:20:42 pm
I hand filed mine on the saw in the vice. That is how I sharpen all my chains. I like to try and keep things the same. I feel that it better to make small changes on a chain that way you actually know what each different thing does. ch74 you should be well pleased with your chain. To have a round filed chain cut like that is great. On my square chain I sharpen the tooth out at the tip of the bar, where the tooth just starts over the round edge of the tip. Helped me to get the file in there and not get down in the straps so bad.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 25, 2015, 03:05:04 pm
jmester. Thanks a million i did something diffrent with the raker also i used my round file and tunneled under it , Hard to explain it would b easier to see a pic.
On my 450p i took a old file and a peice of sand paper and chucked the file in a drill and smoothed it out some running the sand paper up and down it , then i filed the chain with my oregon bar mounted guide, and used valve lapping compound on it and OMG it was a monster. It was crazy shinny and cut so smooooooth. Also on that chain i clean the gullets out like i did on the work chain i sent in. Its fast i have cut over 14 trees down and cut up with that 450p chain and haven't even touched with a file since the valve compound and cleaning the gullets.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: rjames on December 25, 2015, 03:18:40 pm
I filed mine in my fg2 with the top part(file holder) removed.  First round chain I filed square.  Tried to follow all the pros(squarefile,mdavlee,cut4fun,moparmyway)tips/methods.  I've got a lot to learn but it was fun as hell.  Wish I would've had more time with it.  Big thanks to moparmyway and of course cut4fun and all who helped.

Count me in for the next one, I'm hooked.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 25, 2015, 03:23:39 pm
For sure count me IN to.  ;D
Ill help out with cash for the cant's
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on December 25, 2015, 03:34:25 pm
happy Christmas everyone.

learned a few things with my chain when it was compared to others times.

i lightened my chain as much as possible. the rivs ground down; the rakers thinned; the straps around the rivets; 45'd the back of the cutters; line ground the side of the cutter.  lots of metal fell off.  edit: forgot to mention, thinned the underside "drive" part of chain.

left the round cutting edge as it was from the factory, did not put a file to the tooth. angled the rakers down a bit.  (maybe too much, hahaha).

don't think with my chain chip clearing helped much, nothing but air behind the cutter.  time was on par with the stock chain.

maybe with more power, it would be a tad faster, but i don't think by much of anything. it's all in the cutter i am thinking?

maybe this will help someone.  posted a pic earlier of the chain.  hope cut4 can post a better one.

be careful with my chain with higher power kevin.  please check the rivs before you decide give it a go. 

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 25, 2015, 06:45:34 pm
Sorry guys horrible pics. I just cant figure that crap out. Not enough light, to much flash. Yada yada story of my life on pics like these.

Few I got today while out in barn before shooting today.

If I get wrong chain with initials just let me know and I will fix.

MMW

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ch74

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SF

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Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 25, 2015, 07:18:39 pm
Thanks, Cut4 your a good fella.
I like that hook under the raker on my chain.
And holly hell that last chain looks like a ferrari...lol..It just looks fast.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 25, 2015, 07:23:36 pm
If you use light besides the flash it usually does better. Squarefiles chain looks wicked.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on December 25, 2015, 08:30:35 pm
My chains were sharpened on just the bar with a sprocket. I used a small pipe & screech to tighten. On the work chain I round filed the cutter back then squared it up. The first few I did free hand then I did the rest with a granberg G-108. The depth gauges were then set to about .020.

 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on December 25, 2015, 08:57:44 pm
Chain 2 was round filed back just as the work chain. I removed some of the tiestrap to save the file and shaped the depth gauges with a dremel. Then hit the rivets with a sanddisc on an angle grinder. Then squared free hand, tried to stone it, and set the gauges the same. It was faster than my work chain but slower than the race one I sent in my testing.

 Pics of chain 2.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 25, 2015, 09:28:58 pm
jmester. Thanks a million i did something diffrent with the raker also i used my round file and tunneled under it , Hard to explain it would b easier to see a pic.
On my 450p i took a old file and a peice of sand paper and chucked the file in a drill and smoothed it out some running the sand paper up and down it , then i filed the chain with my oregon bar mounted guide, and used valve lapping compound on it and OMG it was a monster. It was crazy shinny and cut so smooooooth. Also on that chain i clean the gullets out like i did on the work chain i sent in. Its fast i have cut over 14 trees down and cut up with that 450p chain and haven't even touched with a file since the valve compound and cleaning the gullets.

That is interesting how you used the valve lapping compound on a dull file to polish the chain.   Pretty slick.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 25, 2015, 10:06:03 pm
Thank you. I must have spent hours trying to figure out a way to Shine it up like using a fine stone on a knife. Then at work i was lapping some valves in a cyl, and bam it hit me. lol..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 25, 2015, 10:14:23 pm
I was also thinking of using a wooden dowl in a 5/32  with the compound to kinda strop it but i cant fine a wooden dowl that size.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 25, 2015, 10:34:15 pm
Chain 2 was round filed back just as the work chain. I removed some of the tiestrap to save the file and shaped the depth gauges with a dremel. Then hit the rivets with a sanddisc on an angle grinder. Then squared free hand, tried to stone it, and set the gauges the same. It was faster than my work chain but slower than the race one I sent in my testing.

 Pics of chain 2.

That is a very nice looking cutter.
You all really brought the A game to this chain race..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 25, 2015, 10:45:10 pm
Concrete, that tooth dont look good , its sexy...lol... ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on December 25, 2015, 11:00:33 pm
The race chain I sent in was an afterthought. While doing the first 2 I was reading a lot about squarefiling and race chains. And Matt or Mike had said something about sacrificing cutter height vs chip clearing so I thought why not play? Could only get my hands on some ps3 but why not. I ground the saftey to a hump and trimmed the tiestraps. Then cleared the gullets and took the file to it with a stupid angle. The reasult was this.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on December 25, 2015, 11:04:20 pm
I then shined it up, clipped it, and tried again to stone. Ran them and kept chain 2 at home.

Finished pic.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on December 25, 2015, 11:12:48 pm
Chain 2 was round filed back just as the work chain. I removed some of the tiestrap to save the file and shaped the depth gauges with a dremel. Then hit the rivets with a sanddisc on an angle grinder. Then squared free hand, tried to stone it, and set the gauges the same. It was faster than my work chain but slower than the race one I sent in my testing.

 Pics of chain 2.

That is a very nice looking cutter.
You all really brought the A game to this chain race..

I wish you could've saw them but the week of your gtg went south here.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on December 25, 2015, 11:26:43 pm
Concrete, that tooth dont look good , its sexy...lol... ;D

Yours looks very nice as well. And has me very intrigued.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on December 26, 2015, 05:27:56 am
awesome chains guys! those times were impressive.  nice work!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 26, 2015, 07:48:47 am
Those chains look great concretegrazer
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 08:31:31 am
If you use light besides the flash it usually does better. Squarefiles chain looks wicked.

I'll try a light source on the next ones then.

Few more uploaded from yesterday.

With my memory being on/off  I cant remember whos and didnt write down this time.

Jim look at gullet area. Thinking this is 660magnum square work. Not sure might be 2 chains there shown.  :-[

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Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 08:36:45 am
more

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(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/buildoffchains%20027_zpsuzrelsua.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/buildoffchains%20027_zpsuzrelsua.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 26, 2015, 08:39:04 am
SF: I knew you were going to do well ........... first place in both, congrats ! Them were some nice looking chains

To all who got a package from me, your very welcome, it was my pleasure to help get all of you involved !

Now, I have to go cry in the shower and get a file for another loop ......... I will file it the same way, but I will stay away from clearing the gullet so low, sad looking drivers on mine. Sorry for the surprise Cut.

Cut: Want me to send you a second strap ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 08:44:01 am
more

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Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 08:47:48 am
SF: I knew you were going to do well ........... first place in both, congrats ! Them were some nice looking chains

To all who got a package from me, your very welcome, it was my pleasure to help get all of you involved !

Now, I have to go cry in the shower and get a file for another loop ......... I will file it the same way, but I will stay away from clearing the gullet so low, sad looking drivers on mine. Sorry for the surprise Cut.

Cut: Want me to send you a second strap ?

Go ahead if you want.  But remember it will be in 2nd group with notation saying came in for 2nd 3ci testing.  Because I know most would file different for this woods ported 3ci test over a stock echo 39cc.

That style file wasnt all bad you sent me. All I did was hit fronts to turn square. Nothing more.   Thanks for sending the file and helping everyone h=out like you did.

Thanks.....................

I do see why you guys dont like that file free handing. It flexes free handing.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 08:55:46 am
more lost where I was at. grrrr hmmm lol

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Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on December 26, 2015, 09:01:36 am
I just now saw the vids and also saw or rather heard the mistake I  had made .When that saw started to drop rpms it was evident I had taken the rakers too far down.

It was fun never the less and thanks for all the work in producing the vids,cants and doing the testing.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 26, 2015, 09:02:13 am

Go ahead if you want.  But remember it will be in 2nd group with notation saying came in for 2nd 3ci testing.  Because I know most would file different for this woods ported 3ci test over a stock echo 39cc.

That style file wasnt all bad you sent me. All I did was hit fronts to turn square. Nothing more.   Thanks for sending the file and helping everyone h=out like you did.

Thanks.....................

I do see why you guys dont like that file free handing. It flexes free handing.



If I get time, I will send another loop, but my schedule is tight, I just saw January this morning.

I dont like them files for 2 reasons ......... the flex in it, like you said ....... and there is just something about how I see that file as I am filing, I cant keep the corner as well as I do with the other two varients of 6 sided ones


Thanks for all the work you did Cut !
The way you ran the chains was easy to tell which was what and whos chain was being run.
Professional if ya ask me !!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on December 26, 2015, 09:12:36 am
I just wanted to add for those who don't know .Running Stihl semi chisel pico or any other brand  on a bone stock 020t or 200T in poplar cants is 15 seconds for two  cuts .I've seen this almost being consistant in at least a half a dozen occasions .

A few years back when we raced the little saws this type chain was all we had available .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 26, 2015, 09:28:32 am
Thanks MMW just the way I have dont my stuff in the past if running more then 1 saw or chain at a time videoing.  That way I can keep track.

Al yep I seen your rakers before hand and new it was in trouble with the 39cc stock.  Couldnt do anything, just had to let it work it way through cut.  Maybe next saw wont be so bad with the rakers.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 26, 2015, 09:29:30 am
Late Jan at best right now.  Who knows could be Feb.  Nobody in a hurry for their chains back are ya?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 26, 2015, 09:31:09 am
Race chain was tied for 3rd.  You guys want me to run your chain back to back in same foot of wood?

Concretegrazer     4.31
3000 FPS              4.31

Concretegazer      4.25
3000 FPS             4.25
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 10:01:17 am
@Moparmyway

Same chain on 4 saws to compare stock 3/8 7T RS  8x8 aspen, 346 46cc, 262xp stock muffler mod, 3750 stock muffler mod, 365 special.

https://youtu.be/Zd8q3wN-x6g
https://youtu.be/O3sRA3uzkwU
https://youtu.be/qtnk7BaaDaY
https://youtu.be/a96ULyaz7xU
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 10:30:30 am
Nimble and light 026. But not on par with the 50cc 46cc ported in the bucking cuts.

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Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 26, 2015, 10:36:04 am
Nimble and light 026. But not on par with the 50cc 46cc ported in the bucking cuts.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/028super/028super026pro002.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/028super/028super026pro002.jpg.html)
That saw set up with rim sprocket? If so, I'll donate a p-7 for the cause.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 10:54:57 am
Nimble and light 026. But not on par with the 50cc 46cc ported in the bucking cuts.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/028super/028super026pro002.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/028super/028super026pro002.jpg.html)
That saw set up with rim sprocket? If so, I'll donate a p-7 for the cause.

Yep 3/8 7T mini. Thanks.

Do you think it will make a difference?  I still just run 3/8 7 on my stuff. 

 Both echos have small 3/8 7 and run the picco chains. I know it isn't 100% perfect but close enough for my uses.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 10:59:19 am
Shaun I think I have a mini 3/8 8T if you run it on anything. Dont own a saw that can pull it.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 26, 2015, 11:16:28 am
Shaun I think I have a mini 3/8 8T if you run it on anything. Dont own a saw that can pull it.
I have a couple. My picco experiments are done. 3/8" for me.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 11:19:28 am
Shaun I think I have a mini 3/8 8T if you run it on anything. Dont own a saw that can pull it.
I have a couple. My picco experiments are done. 3/8" for me.

Yep if the saw has balls 3/8 ;)  reason all the 3ci race saws run 3/8 still.

Now 40cc under I wish I had the PS back in the day.  8)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 26, 2015, 11:23:47 am
Race chain was tied for 3rd.  You guys want me to run your chain back to back in same foot of wood?

Concretegrazer     4.31
3000 FPS              4.31

Concretegazer      4.25
3000 FPS             4.25


It is not that important to me.    I would not use up your time doing it.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 11:34:57 am
and where does my pine cants come from.  :o  8)





Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 26, 2015, 11:37:11 am
Wow. That's a lot of wood.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 11:46:54 am
Wow. That's a lot of wood.

2 man operation.  Dec 18th said almost quarter million board feet of white pine this year.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 26, 2015, 11:52:16 am
2man band and they processed that much. From the looks of the pic they stay organized. That's impressive for 2 people...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on December 26, 2015, 11:54:55 am
   Thanks for posting the pics of chains. I really enjoy looking at them and seeing what others are thinking and doing. Very educational!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on December 26, 2015, 11:56:22 am
Those chains look great concretegrazer
Thanks. I have some good teachers.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 11:59:47 am
2man band and they processed that much. From the looks of the pic they stay organized. That's impressive for 2 people...

That dont count the hardwoods.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 12:01:22 pm
Those chains look great concretegrazer
Thanks. I have some good teachers.

What state do you live in?  Not state of confusion like me either. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 26, 2015, 12:03:40 pm
That's more impressive. They have to stay organized.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on December 26, 2015, 12:07:45 pm


Race chain was tied for 3rd.  You guys want me to run your chain back to back in same foot of wood?

Concretegrazer     4.31
3000 FPS              4.31

Concretegazer      4.25
3000 FPS             4.25


It is not that important to me.    I would not use up your time doing it.


I agree. Have pictures of yours been posted? If so which one is it?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on December 26, 2015, 12:14:19 pm
Those chains look great concretegrazer
Thanks. I have some good teachers.

What state do you live in?  Not state of confusion like me either. ;)

Missery.  Somewhere between hedge & awol.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 26, 2015, 12:19:15 pm
No I have not seen any pictures of my chain posted yet Concretegazer.   I told Kevin he can show pics it is ok with me.   This site is about learning and I have already picked up on some things from the pics that have been shown.   Maybe someone might see something on mine that will help them.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 12:20:22 pm
Those chains look great concretegrazer
Thanks. I have some good teachers.

What state do you live in?  Not state of confusion like me either. ;)

Missery.  Somewhere between hedge & awol.

Cool

I'll head out and try some more pics and use a lighting source.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 26, 2015, 12:28:55 pm
Y'all are awesome. I havelearned some stuff as well.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 12:48:58 pm
Used floodlights for back drop lighting. Then micro setting again with flash and no flash. Better results.

I ran the race chains through this time only.

Did I have Aclarke Hedgerow and AWOL permission to post their chain pics?  I can remember.

Seen 2 more chains this time through with some tunneling going on. That makes 1st and 2nd chains with tunneling.  ;)  8)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 01:08:49 pm
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20003_zpsjfzcsmg8.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20003_zpsjfzcsmg8.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20001_zpshax8x4w5.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20001_zpshax8x4w5.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20004_zpsvrxgbwog.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20004_zpsvrxgbwog.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20002_zpsivkr27kn.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20002_zpsivkr27kn.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on December 26, 2015, 01:10:56 pm
Hedge and awol did, post #s 1139 & 1147.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 01:12:08 pm
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20005_zpsff6uaktg.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20005_zpsff6uaktg.jpg.html)(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20006_zpstrsbxklx.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20006_zpstrsbxklx.jpg.html)(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20008_zpslu0iww0c.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20008_zpslu0iww0c.jpg.html)(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20007_zpsanytvswb.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20007_zpsanytvswb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 26, 2015, 01:13:15 pm
Wow, that's what i was up against? geezzzz. Thats not fair...lol...
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 01:16:38 pm
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20009_zps2texna2c.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20009_zps2texna2c.jpg.html)(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20011_zpszfplcdne.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20011_zpszfplcdne.jpg.html)(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20012_zps7xo13lfc.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20012_zps7xo13lfc.jpg.html)(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20010_zps7knkvjkn.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20010_zps7knkvjkn.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 01:17:23 pm
Wow, that's what i was up against? geezzzz. Thats not fair...lol...

These were the race. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 01:24:38 pm
Lost one of these too. Walking away from pics for a sec.  :-X

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20015_zpsgrak0gfy.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20015_zpsgrak0gfy.jpg.html)(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20016_zpsjgw65r9z.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20016_zpsjgw65r9z.jpg.html)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20013_zpsbklglx4c.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20014_zpsks67nzi2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 01:30:15 pm
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20018_zps5grc0mzr.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20018_zps5grc0mzr.jpg.html)(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20017_zpshazhnyfc.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20017_zpshazhnyfc.jpg.html)


(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20019_zps4rzdxtkl.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20019_zps4rzdxtkl.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20020_zpsrm3kregy.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20020_zpsrm3kregy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 26, 2015, 01:38:22 pm
K. Sorry. My bad. All those chains look good.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 01:39:05 pm
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  1 pic is not Mike's. I can get the freaking link right.  ::) :-X   Deleted some got to walk away from this pic stuff for now.



(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20025_zps0rhr5usl.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20025_zps0rhr5usl.jpg.html)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20027_zpszgnpeqin.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20027_zpszgnpeqin.jpg.html)

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20028_zpsipoxtvqn.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20028_zpsipoxtvqn.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 26, 2015, 01:49:00 pm
That 365 special is a goodun !!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: fisaw on December 26, 2015, 01:53:01 pm
3/8lp , 050" on a 50cc saw + short bar  is a combination which I often use here, more efficient and more productive combination ( 6-8 hours working days , when in the woods)    Ms 241  42,6cc 3,1HP 3/8 lp is a standard here , more efficient than 543xp / .325
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 02:29:31 pm
Just so it is known. Mike's chain was only put in race because of some of the stuff done. If he hadnt did them it would have looked just like our work chain class.

I will get some pics of the work chains later.  Lot of the round ones looked alike. Just didnt cut like SF's did.

I used 3/16" file on mine and that was all just took the stock front off to give it thinner top with more beak.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 26, 2015, 03:10:09 pm
@ square file  congratulations your chain s look great !  Awol, hedge , and everyone else I know . as the results show mine need a lot of work . it was fun though .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 03:14:19 pm
concretegazer  did I grab the right chain?

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20030_zpsuuxgukma.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20030_zpsuuxgukma.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20029_zps0ktsbyvy.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20029_zps0ktsbyvy.jpg.html)(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20031_zpspdccfpsu.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20031_zpspdccfpsu.jpg.html)(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20032_zpstuaw47ic.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20032_zpstuaw47ic.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: awol on December 26, 2015, 03:16:31 pm
   Did Squarefiles chain have the chrome peeled off? I can't really tell by the pic, there ain't a lot of tooth left!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on December 26, 2015, 03:26:44 pm
concretegazer  did I grab the right chain?

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20030_zpsuuxgukma.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20030_zpsuuxgukma.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20029_zps0ktsbyvy.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20029_zps0ktsbyvy.jpg.html)(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20031_zpspdccfpsu.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20031_zpspdccfpsu.jpg.html)(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/videos/cbobatch2%20032_zpstuaw47ic.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/doemaster789/media/videos/cbobatch2%20032_zpstuaw47ic.jpg.html)

Looks like it.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 26, 2015, 03:29:19 pm
I basically just cleaned out some junk under the cutter and filed it, then nipped the backs..
I never would have guessed to give more attention to the under side would have helped on such a small saw.  Man was I wrong..
Lol..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 26, 2015, 03:35:58 pm
Quote from: awol link=topic=5237.msg6718! 9#msg67189 date=1451160991
   Did Squarefiles chain have the chrome peeled off? I can't really tell by the pic, there ain't a lot of tooth left!
No, I didnt even stone mine.

For all that congratulated me, Thank you!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 04:21:05 pm
Quote from: awol link=topic=5237.msg6718! 9#msg67189 date=1451160991
   Did Squarefiles chain have the chrome peeled off? I can't really tell by the pic, there ain't a lot of tooth left!
No, I didnt even stone mine.

For all that congratulated me, Thank you!

Weird part. In the cut yours didnt feel the fastest. I thought 3000fps or awol was.  Just by feel and smooth cut.

But the stopwatches showed me different.  I still havent timed the chains or RC's from HD.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 06:51:46 pm
Picco bar and 026 arrived.  Will pick cants up tomorrow.
Title: Re: Chain build off videos
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 06:56:49 pm
I'm still calling mine round or hybrid. Lol

Thanks for taking the time and effort.

I was looking to see what you were talking about.  I can see a square corner. Then like you used a round file too, up to the corner.   Am I close? 

Sweet looking chain.   8)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on December 26, 2015, 07:15:57 pm
how did you get the chain photos so clear?

......no matter what i try with my camera, i have to take at least 10 pics for just one of them to come out semi-clear.

cool beans.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 07:19:55 pm
how did you get the chain photos so clear?

......no matter what i try with my camera, i have to take at least 10 pics for just one of them to come out semi-clear.

cool beans.

I am using micro.  Best I can do.
I'd like to see a chain like yours but the cutter over the rear rivet. Then see how it cuts.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 1manband on December 26, 2015, 07:38:14 pm
i will try that with the camera.  frustrating at times, looks clear in the screen, then comes out blurry.

if we do this again next year, will try that next time with the chain.  all i seemed to manage, just slowed it down! hahaha. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 07:48:12 pm
i will try that with the camera.  frustrating at times, looks clear in the screen, then comes out blurry.

if we do this again next year, will try that next time with the chain.  all i seemed to manage, just slowed it down! hahaha. 

I have no problem running the saws or getting the cants and putting it all together again.

Just have to decide what to do and for what and what size cant.

There was also some talk in the back ground of a member buying  3-4 smaller cc saws and having a build off like we used to on Racesaws.  Could even be the cheaper china versions.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 07:56:59 pm
Is there anything I could do to improve it? 

Timing on hand would be nice but would make it so much slower. Figure I did 75 cuts for time min.

Just soon video and let you all time. Then I can check them on the HD if we have a close one like we did in work.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 26, 2015, 08:12:05 pm
I think it worked out great. A saw build off would be fun. Something cheap to get would let more enter.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 26, 2015, 08:12:36 pm
I really liked that each chain/person got there own time on camera in there own seperate video that wasn't to bad it was organized and you could clearly see each chain cutting.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 26, 2015, 08:13:23 pm
I'll enter that if its a cheap saw.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 08:19:53 pm
I really liked that each chain/person got there own time on camera in there own seperate video that wasn't to bad it was organized and you could clearly see each chain cutting.

Yeah I almost did one long video. But I hated my wives software I installed on my puter for her dvd recorder.  pita it was =  my yoda voice.

I like each video separate too.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on December 26, 2015, 10:03:15 pm
Kev, feel free to show pics of my chain,  some great looking chains in this contest with a LOT of time and effort in them.  Mine wasnt one! Lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 26, 2015, 10:44:24 pm
You can also show my chain so everybody know what not to do . lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 26, 2015, 10:58:43 pm
One long one would have been cool to. Im just glad I found this place to hang out n meet all these knowledgeable people.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 26, 2015, 11:00:32 pm
I have only been to masterblasters twice scince I found this forum.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 26, 2015, 11:04:57 pm
I have only been to masterblasters twice scince I found this forum.

What is masterblasters?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 26, 2015, 11:09:31 pm
Tree climbing, tree workers forum. That's we're I learned to climb and take down trees from all those people on there. Now I semi have my own business going , just got insurance 2 mths ago. Those guys r awesome.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 26, 2015, 11:10:27 pm
I love trees n saws. Its my new hobby / kinda career. Lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 26, 2015, 11:35:30 pm
I have only been to masterblasters twice scince I found this forum.

What is masterblasters?

Tree climbers forum

Butch owns it. From Louisiana.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 27, 2015, 12:13:56 am
Ok sounds like a great place.   Never climbed a tree and to old to start, but that does not stop me from cutting them down.   
That is pretty cool Charles that you picked that up. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 27, 2015, 12:20:30 am
I love trees n saws. Its my new hobby / kinda career. Lol

So Milton is up there in the pan handle.  Looks like it is close to New Orleans.   When you learn how to repair your own saws you can then have a climbing business and saw repair business.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 27, 2015, 09:07:47 am
Thanks 3000, I am fixing a poulan for a friend, bad fuel lines and carb take off clean and put back on, and pray it starts. Lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 27, 2015, 09:13:52 am
i will try that with the camera.  frustrating at times, looks clear in the screen, then comes out blurry.

if we do this again next year, will try that next time with the chain.  all i seemed to manage, just slowed it down! hahaha. 

I have no problem running the saws or getting the cants and putting it all together again.

Just have to decide what to do and for what and what size cant.

There was also some talk in the back ground of a member buying  3-4 smaller cc saws and having a build off like we used to on Racesaws.  Could even be the cheaper china versions.

Ideas?  Start now thinking on it.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Reddog on December 27, 2015, 09:37:06 am
Thanks for the time put in on this by all involved.

I have been just enjoying following along and watching/learning.  :)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 27, 2015, 11:51:42 am
What would b a cheap saw that one could build?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Chris-PA on December 27, 2015, 01:54:35 pm
If you want to have a cheap small chainsaw porting competition the choices are somewhat limited, depending on how you define "cheap" and "small".   While I have seen Chinese copies of other designs (Echo), by far and away most are copies of just 3 Zenoah designs: 

38 and 41cc versions of the G3800
45, 50, 52, 58 and 62cc versions of the G5000
62, 72 and 82cc versions of the G621 (very uncommon in the US now)

If they meet US emissions then they have modified porting and a cat muffler.  The Earthquakes are not that inexpensive.  Sears and others carry the 45cc saws.  The G5000-based clones are all open port cylinders. 

Other cheap saws are the various 42cc Poulans, which all have the same strato engine now for some years. 

Then there are the Chinese Ryobi saws, which used to be branded as Homelite.  They appear to be playing the same game as Poulan, where all the little ones are actually 42cc regardless of what the model number is. 

There are other small saws but they will cost more, and any of the above are already outside of cheap in my book, at least if bought new. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 27, 2015, 02:02:25 pm
I think I would look for something used on eBay for cheap.   

No piped saws, no external transfers, no two piece heads.   Everything is a go.   
Just thinking of the average guy that does not have a machine shop and welder.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 27, 2015, 02:12:35 pm
i would b doing everything by hand , but it can be done it's not the space shuttle. I wouldnt mind the 42cc poulan. That wouldnt b that bad i can probably find one at a pawn shop or something of that nature. Count me IN. I have done a husky 455 rancher with decent results. go to charles holton on youtube and see it. Tell me what you all think...been outside milling wood for my floor project. Im pooped.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on December 27, 2015, 02:24:42 pm
No clamshell designs?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 27, 2015, 02:54:20 pm
That's up to you all . Y'all are more experienced then I am, but ill give the old portin another go.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 27, 2015, 04:19:21 pm
Cants picked up so everything is on hand now.   8)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Chris-PA on December 27, 2015, 04:57:29 pm
No clamshell designs?
The Poulans are clamshells.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 27, 2015, 04:59:44 pm
That was quick to get the cants
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 27, 2015, 05:42:12 pm
That was quick to get the cants

Know who to contact from back in the racing days. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 27, 2015, 05:46:41 pm
@SquareFile check PM ;)

I was paid good $$$ to drag your chain behind my truck to pick up cants and back.  :D 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 27, 2015, 05:51:05 pm
Lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 27, 2015, 05:54:41 pm
I wish I could get the sawmill guy here to call me back. I've called 4 places and none have answered the phone.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 27, 2015, 05:56:06 pm
Lol

Wont be funny when he still out cuts us all though  :P.  I mean I even put a lead weight on it to make sure it really made contact while being dragged too.  :D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 27, 2015, 05:56:46 pm
I wish I could get the sawmill guy here to call me back. I've called 4 places and none have answered the phone.

In driving distance to go talk to owners?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 27, 2015, 06:31:35 pm
I wish I could get the sawmill guy here to call me back. I've called 4 places and none have answered the phone.

In driving distance to go talk to owners?
1 is. 2 others don't have an address and the other is over an hour.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 27, 2015, 08:05:08 pm
So lets see who can guess the closest to the average time of the 2 fastest cuts by the fastest chains.  race and work.

For rd 2    8x8 white pine again.

copy and paste them to try and keep all together.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 27, 2015, 08:09:18 pm
I'll go 3.1 and 3.25
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on December 27, 2015, 08:21:35 pm
Gatekeeper: 3.1 & 3.25
Concretegrazer: 3.2 & 3.5
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 27, 2015, 08:27:00 pm
Gatekeeper: 3.1 & 3.25
Concretegrazer: 3.2 & 3.5
Cut4fun  2.00 &  2.37
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Skippysphins on December 27, 2015, 10:28:54 pm
I think I might melt my slow chain down . lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: David Young on December 28, 2015, 11:21:12 am
pictures...

I think more than anything focus is the problem most people have with capturing chains.

try natural light and see what you are focusing on.

Cut what are you using for a camera?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 28, 2015, 11:29:11 am
Some little POS cheap camera = fuji finepix jx
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 28, 2015, 11:30:12 am
I think I might melt my slow chain down . lol

New chain. Plenty of filings left till it get back there where it is goooood.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: David Young on December 28, 2015, 11:42:08 am
Chris maybe kevin can turn it around and you could use it as a scratcher chain.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 28, 2015, 12:41:37 pm
I know what I would have liked to done with the chain, when I figured out it was 46DL. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 28, 2015, 12:51:18 pm
Finally found a saw mill $30 for white pine 8x8x8. Now to build a can't stand from metal.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 28, 2015, 12:54:24 pm
Finally found a saw mill $30 for white pine 8x8x8. Now to build a can't stand from metal.

Thread on cant stand. If I find it before you will link.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 28, 2015, 02:28:52 pm
Thanks Kevin. Now if the little one will feel better I'll go scrap yard picking for metal.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 28, 2015, 02:49:25 pm
Thanks Kevin. Now if the little one will feel better I'll go scrap yard picking for metal.

Thats suks. Hate when little ones sick.

My first one was made from 2x4's that looked like the metal one.  Then I went with the 8x8's on top of 10x10's. Then a ole racing friend traded me his metal cant stand in on my 3120 practice saw trade we had going.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 28, 2015, 07:32:03 pm
Thanks Kevin. Now if the little one will feel better I'll go scrap yard picking for metal.

Thats suks. Hate when little ones sick.

My first one was made from 2x4's that looked like the metal one.  Then I went with the 8x8's on top of 10x10's. Then a ole racing friend traded me his metal cant stand in on my 3120 practice saw trade we had going.

Here is that 2x4 built one.

I had to used cants to steady. By itself in last video it moved to much.

DN7901 

https://youtu.be/y0yh1eZgXo8


PP375K = DD

https://youtu.be/CJmADBXsWwI
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on December 28, 2015, 07:47:21 pm
I got it figured out. Got to go get 36' of angle iron. Hopefully they have short pieces I can get in the truck bed. I don't want to have to take a trailer.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 29, 2015, 12:25:08 am
Uhhhh. That 372 WASN'T playing around. Holly crikey.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 29, 2015, 10:37:14 am
Finally found a saw mill $30 for white pine 8x8x8. Now to build a can't stand from metal.

Mike just so you know. White pine will make a stock saw look fast. Makes a ported saw look unreal.
White pine is like cutting a stick of room temperature stick butter.

I like yellow poplar cants the best.  I used to pay $25-$28 per cant for those for my gtg's.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on December 29, 2015, 11:38:27 am
Anyone need some oak cants??
Lol
Got 6 of em left..
That's my test wood now I guess..
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 29, 2015, 01:17:35 pm
Anyone need some oak cants??
Lol
Got 6 of em left..
That's my test wood now I guess..

Wish I had them.

Seen them in that cant pic u took. I drooled a little bit sorry.   :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 29, 2015, 01:18:59 pm
Any of you folks want to post pics of who you are here?

We had a thread like that here buried in the off topic area. But would be cool to see who was filing these chains.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 29, 2015, 01:23:11 pm
meteor pistons

@Moparmyway  if you end up buying those pistons from HLsupply like you said. Dont forget their code word in their thread here to save you another 10% off for being a member of this site.

Thread in the where to buy online board.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 29, 2015, 01:25:06 pm
cants all cut and stacked just waiting on me to get 026 ready now.  wore my fat azz out.

take a breather and go change some oils next I guess. since no one volunteered to do it for me.  :)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 29, 2015, 01:25:37 pm
meteor pistons

@Moparmyway  if you end up buying those pistons from HLsupply like you said. Dont forget their code word in their thread here to save you another 10% off for being a member of this site.

Thread in the where to buy online board.
Perfect !!
Whenever you guys order online at www.hlsproparts.com you can look for the coupon code box and type the word "chainsaw" and it will give you 10% off. Just a little customer appreciation from HL Supply. Thanks
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 29, 2015, 01:27:51 pm
Uhhhh. That 372 WASN'T playing around. Holly crikey.

That 180psi. Thats all I want in work saws.  Even the ones I had at 190 195 was just a tad to much. Just my way of thinking on work saws.

Saw was ported by Dan Henry  dozerdan username here
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 29, 2015, 01:29:32 pm
meteor pistons

@Moparmyway  if you end up buying those pistons from HLsupply like you said. Dont forget their code word in their thread here to save you another 10% off for being a member of this site.

Thread in the where to buy online board.
Perfect !!
Whenever you guys order online at www.hlsproparts.com you can look for the coupon code box and type the word "chainsaw" and it will give you 10% off. Just a little customer appreciation from HL Supply. Thanks

Just emailed you. Your quick LOL
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on December 29, 2015, 01:32:45 pm


That 180psi. Thats all I want in work saws.  Even the ones I had at 190 195 was just a tad to much. Just my way of thinking on work saws.

Saw was ported by Dan Henry  dozerdan username here
That buzz saw certainly was spinning, but that was a worksaw ?
Could that thing run a 28" all day at that tune ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 29, 2015, 01:37:05 pm


That 180psi. Thats all I want in work saws.  Even the ones I had at 190 195 was just a tad to much. Just my way of thinking on work saws.

Saw was ported by Dan Henry  dozerdan username here
That buzz saw certainly was spinning, but that was a worksaw ?
Could that thing run a 28" all day at that tune ?

32" fattened up, never did cut long with it though. Past owner used it for cutting cants at his race event.

That was cant cutting tune.  Just so you know.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 29, 2015, 01:43:15 pm
I raced it in the alky/nitro classes till I got a alky saw built.  I could break the top 10 sometimes even with my slow azz operating it.  Think I got 8th one time out of 22 if I remember right.
Chit happens sometimes to the faster saws etc when cold start racing and lets a slow azz like me move up.

Same saw Murray KY

https://youtu.be/kxP7sQzIEvw

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on December 30, 2015, 12:18:08 am
I want my 450 p ported and compression about about 180 ish it would b a awesome saw.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 30, 2015, 01:35:06 pm
I put the picco on the ported 026 yesterday.  Need to check something as chain isnt pulling through easily. Thinking hitting the bumper pads on cover.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: SquareFile on December 30, 2015, 01:42:39 pm
I put the picco on the ported 026 yesterday.  Need to check something as chain isnt pulling through easily. Thinking hitting the bumper pads on cover.
You may have to shim both sides of the bar. Dont overlook the sprocket either. Its like running on a badly worn sprocket if your using 3/8".
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 30, 2015, 01:46:00 pm
Any of you folks want to post pics of who you are here?

We had a thread like that here buried in the off topic area. But would be cool to see who was filing these chains.


poulan gtg thinking 2013
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 30, 2015, 01:47:34 pm
I put the picco on the ported 026 yesterday.  Need to check something as chain isnt pulling through easily. Thinking hitting the bumper pads on cover.
You may have to shim both sides of the bar. Dont overlook the sprocket either. Its like running on a badly worn sprocket if your using 3/8".

It stops.  Thinking I seen cutter into bumper on the stock chain.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 660magnum on December 30, 2015, 02:10:58 pm
You need to mic the thickness of that original MS 180 small Stihl bar and compare it with a middle size Stihl bar thickness?

You need to shim out the width at the mount area to equal the thickness of a regular mount Stihl Bar?

If you don't have a regular Stihl bar I have a 16" Oregon that came off that saw that I can bring over?

Apparently the bar is thin like a narrow kerf bar?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on December 30, 2015, 02:33:10 pm
Are you using a rim or spur sprocket. It turned fine on mine. I never did put the sprocket cover on.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 30, 2015, 02:33:24 pm
I am thinking you and Shaun are right.  The picco bar is thin compared to my 16" windsor stihl bar.  Never thought about this.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 30, 2015, 02:34:01 pm
Are you using a rim or spur sprocket. It turned fine on mine. I never did put the sprocket cover on.

Rim. It hits sprocket cover  bumpers.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun on December 30, 2015, 02:35:01 pm
I need to go put a coil in a 272 and will look at it later. ;)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: aclarke on December 30, 2015, 05:37:40 pm
Modified picco 12" and rim works fine on my 026.  Check the plastic insert at the oiler.  Any excessive grinding(heat) will melt these and cause binding. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 30, 2015, 06:25:17 pm
Got wrapped up tearing the 268xp with 272 top down. So 026 on back burner
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 31, 2015, 02:25:06 pm
Did I ever post work chain pics with the name tags under them?  I was reminded of this.

If i didnt do this it will be a bit. Life got busy with real work and side work. Vacation time is over.

Think I posted a few work chains without name tags on first round though.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 02, 2016, 08:39:43 pm

Perfect


@Moparmyway  package arrived today and Thank You for the help paying for the cants. Much appreciated.   8)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 03, 2016, 05:52:41 pm
Grilling out today in 29 degree. Was getting cold so I hauled 3 loads of cookies out in the carry all. All cleaned up.

Just need to check on that 026 bar chain deal and tune it to my mix.  Going to try and be ready for a 40's weather day.  Least I hope.

Found a pic online of one like it.

(http://www.constructionjunction.org/files/image/products/1235139966-P1050763.JPG)
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 03, 2016, 08:33:40 pm
I bet that thing is handy cut4.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 03, 2016, 09:09:01 pm
Yea that would work good for bringing firewood to the garage.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on January 04, 2016, 09:48:00 am

Perfect


@Moparmyway  package arrived today and Thank You for the help paying for the cants. Much appreciated.   8)
My pleasure Sir !
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 05, 2016, 05:19:26 pm
Finished the 272 project today. Just need to put his b+c etc  back on it. tested with mine.

So the 026 will be next to check on the picco deal again.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Hedgerow on January 05, 2016, 05:56:01 pm
Results should be interesting.

Don't forget yer chaps Kevin!!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 05, 2016, 06:23:45 pm
It should be quicker but how much is the $100 question
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 05, 2016, 06:27:20 pm
Yep I am bit curious also if the results actually change from the smaller saw.    We will see.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 05, 2016, 07:56:00 pm
Gatekeeper: 3.1 & 3.25
Concretegrazer: 3.2 & 3.5
Cut4fun  2.00 &  2.37

Anyone else guessing?  Times of the fastest race and work chains on the ported 026 with 3/8 7
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on January 05, 2016, 09:47:52 pm
Gatekeeper: 3.1 & 3.25
Concretegrazer: 3.2 & 3.5
Cut4fun  2.00 &  2.37
jmester 2.50 & 3.00

I think that 026 is going to pull a lot harder.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 06, 2016, 06:37:01 pm
Gatekeeper: 3.20 & 3.50
Concretegrazer: 3.20 & 3.50
Cut4fun  1.58 &  2.10
jmester 2.20 & 2.80



I think my work chain will be a second quicker. And i also think that i will be in 3 in the work chain class as i was in 5 on the smaller saw.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 07, 2016, 12:04:13 am
Gatekeeper: 3.20 & 3.50
Concretegrazer: 3.20 & 3.50
Cut4fun  1.58 &  2.10
jmester 2.20 & 2.80




I think my work chain will be a second quicker. And i also think that i will be in 3 in the work chain class as i was in 5 on the smaller saw.

What did you do to our times above?  Those wasnt our guesses. :P  LOL

Here is our guesses.

Gatekeeper: 3.1 & 3.25
Concretegrazer: 3.2 & 3.5
Cut4fun  2.00 &  2.37
jmester 2.50 & 3.00

you  ? & ?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on January 07, 2016, 07:46:55 am
That ch74 is slick with a file and slick with a quote ................. watch out for him !!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 07, 2016, 11:24:08 am
Just pulled cover off 026 chain spins fine with no spacer on inside with 3/8 7 rim.

Then put on cover with the 2 plastic bumpers and thats where she was a catching. No spacer needed on clutch cover either. Just removed both upper lower plastic bumpers from clutch cover.  Turns freely now.

Dumped old mix that was in it, refilled with mine, added bar oil as tank was empty.  Ready to tune.

Wont be to long now with any luck.  Called off work as my folks came in from out of town for 2 days.  They just left.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 07, 2016, 02:48:46 pm
Pics of 12" bar on 026.  http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/stihl/12'-picco-026-ported/new/#new

Tested and tuned. Now for race day.  ;D :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 07, 2016, 03:06:16 pm
Need to remember to pull that dang dawg off. 
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 07, 2016, 05:40:41 pm
I copied and pasted and put the times i think that are going to be it.  ;D Thanks mopar for the comment. lol.. I still think my work chain will be 3rd instead of 5th like on the smaller saw.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 07, 2016, 05:42:33 pm
Your a awesome fella Cut. Thanks for all this.


Ch74 3.50 -3.80.  ??? Work chain...lol... :'(
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 07, 2016, 08:00:40 pm
Your a awesome fella Cut. Thanks for all this.


Ch74 3.50 -3.80.  ??? Work chain...lol... :'(

Just want to make sure I have yours straight.

Fastest RACE and WORK chain times.

Gatekeeper: 3.1 & 3.25
Concretegrazer: 3.2 & 3.5
Cut4fun  2.00 &  2.37
jmester 2.50 & 3.00
Ch74 removed times. His was for his chain only
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 07, 2016, 08:02:12 pm
Let me just say. The stock felt good and fast doing halfway cuts.  Didnt do full cuts.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 07, 2016, 08:12:19 pm
Looks like you got it all figured out.   The chains with the more aggressive rakers should do pretty good.  We will see.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 07, 2016, 08:22:18 pm
Looks like you got it all figured out.   The chains with the more aggressive rakers should do pretty good.  We will see.

That was my felling today with the stock chain.  Never know though.

Will be interesting and had trouble holding back from starting them today.  Glad my buddy brought beer and we ran his 272 my 505 and 445.

I want to be able to do them all in a few  sessions again in 1 day.   
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 07, 2016, 08:39:58 pm
Shoot. My work chain is going to b 3.80. Sorry. I thought it meant from this time to this time. We had to fall inbetween.
Sorry im dumb.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on January 07, 2016, 09:11:43 pm
Glad the bar was not the problem. That 026 with that bar just looks fun!
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 07, 2016, 09:13:14 pm
Shoot. My work chain is going to b 3.80. Sorry. I thought it meant from this time to this time. We had to fall inbetween.
Sorry im dumb.

I'll just scratch yours and we will see how close you are to yours.

Any guesses for top 2 chain?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 07, 2016, 09:16:05 pm
Are you going to run Squarefile's chain.   If so I think it will be the fastest.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 07, 2016, 09:17:03 pm
I think your going to b first and square is second. That's all I have. Lol
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 07, 2016, 09:22:32 pm
It will be close between Awol, concretegrazer, and 3000 FPS for second place on the race chains.   I do not know how aggressive the rakers were on the other chains or how chip clearance will play out on a faster stronger saw.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 07, 2016, 10:14:14 pm
Chip clearance is key. IMO. Take a look at my round for instance. I didn't get a chance to lapp that chain, as I believe I would have been in top 3 (just opinion) I concentrated more time on chip clearance as its a work chain.
I left the bumper links on. Did anyone else leave the bumper links on?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 07, 2016, 10:25:10 pm
I hope nobody takes that the wrong way.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 08, 2016, 07:46:07 am
I didn't think the little echo would have enough power to really clog with chips so I didn't do as much work on that part. I was mistaken
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 08, 2016, 12:42:30 pm
Are you going to run Squarefile's chain.   If so I think it will be the fastest.

All the chains that were ran before, except the broken one.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 08, 2016, 12:51:04 pm
Glad the bar was not the problem. That 026 with that bar just looks fun!

I took clutch cover off and turning chain without cover on and made sure all was clearing inner metal bar mount plate.  Cutters were clearing. So put clutch cover on and the cutters wouldnt clear the high section on the 2 plastic bumpers. So instead of spacer I just popped them out. Everything looked good then. 
If you removed some of the plastic bumpers material I think it could be used with them. been there before even installing new on folks saws.

Reg 3/8 7 rim was just like it always is = fine and close enough to perfect for me.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 08, 2016, 12:55:23 pm
Chip clearance is key. IMO. Take a look at my round for instance. I didn't get a chance to lapp that chain, as I believe I would have been in top 3 (just opinion) I concentrated more time on chip clearance as its a work chain.
I left the bumper links on. Did anyone else leave the bumper links on?

Yes several PS3 chains still had the bumperson them in the work chains.  Guessing 5-6
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: ch74 on January 08, 2016, 05:46:18 pm
Awesome. Thanks Cut. I should have taken off. But, hey its a work chain.  ;D
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 08, 2016, 10:05:07 pm
Awesome. Thanks Cut. I should have taken off. But, hey its a work chain.  ;D

With the work you had in your chain, I was surprised you didnt.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 08, 2016, 10:38:57 pm
Removing the bumpers was the first thing I did.    I was afraid I would slip and destroy something else.   But that was a race chain.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 08, 2016, 10:43:28 pm
Removing the bumpers was the first thing I did.    I was afraid I would slip and destroy something else.   But that was a race chain.

and a nice job doing so too.   I was impressed with the work on that PS3
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 08, 2016, 11:25:03 pm
Removing the bumpers was the first thing I did.    I was afraid I would slip and destroy something else.   But that was a race chain.

What did you use to clip them?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Al Smith on January 09, 2016, 04:44:42 am
I used a 5HP stand  grinder at work  to remove most of the tabs then finished the rest off at home with a file .
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: mdavlee . on January 09, 2016, 07:10:48 am
I used a 6" metabo.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 08:51:10 am
Note to self.  :-[    Forgot to charge battery over night. :P
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Moparmyway on January 09, 2016, 09:36:08 am


All the chains that were ran before, except the broken one.

 :'(
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 09:51:39 am


All the chains that were ran before, except the broken one.

 :'(

More like  :o
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 09, 2016, 10:38:55 am
I used a 5HP stand  grinder at work  to remove most of the tabs then finished the rest off at home with a file .

Same here just used a bench grinder.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 11:12:35 am
Glad the bar was not the problem. That 026 with that bar just looks fun!

@jmester please call me. Numbers in mod area saved for us all.

Did you test  the bar with 44DL chains with the 3/8 7?  First 44 I came to wont fit. I need to make slot longer and grind bar ends some I think.

Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 11:13:52 am
What a start. First ratchet strap breaks so I had to get new. Because that was my last good ratchet strap.

Then had to stop on the 44dl chain.

This maybe get pushed back folks. Sorry.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 11:21:31 am
I need to redrill a bar tensioner hole too in your bar.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: jmester on January 09, 2016, 01:13:00 pm
Cut, I got 3 1/2 inches from center of crank to center of foward bar stud.

Just so everyone knows the saw I used and posted a pic of with the 12" bar was an 024 case with a 026 top end. I tried it with a 44 DL chain and all looked good. Cut4fun found out this morning that a 44 DL chain would not work on his 026. He need to add another tensioner hole and make the stud slot longer. If anyone has a 026 that could measure from the center of crank to the center of forward bar stud that would be great. It is the only thing I could come up with that would be different.


Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 03:14:28 pm
Cut, I got 3 1/2 inches from center of crank to center of foward bar stud.

Just so everyone knows the saw I used and posted a pic of with the 12" bar was an 024 case with a 026 top end. I tried it with a 44 DL chain and all looked good. Cut4fun found out this morning that a 44 DL chain would not work on his 026. He need to add another tensioner hole and make the stud slot longer. If anyone has a 026 that could measure from the center of crank to the center of forward bar stud that would be great. It is the only thing I could come up with that would be different.




Didnt need to clip ends. Redrilled tensioner hole for 44dl and made slot longer. All was fine then.

I will measure much later too.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 03:17:22 pm
Couple have 4 cuts where I caught a cut out or I didnt go all the way through for cookie to fall. 

I was able to make them all in one run as I had a mini gtg and had folks to talk to. So it made it much easier to keep on chuggin without breaks.

Thanks all.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 03:21:00 pm
I feel I am missing somebody or missed running a chain.

I didnt run the semi chisel. Plus the broken one.

stock x2
Al
Shaun x2
Me x2
cgazer x2
awol x2
Jim
Hedge
Roger
rjames
skippy
imanband
ch74
Mike
jmester x2
moparmy

Miss anyone?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 03:23:37 pm
Remember to time only 2 fastest cuts. 3rd slowest thrown out and or cookie that didnt fall thrown out too, plus the clear cut out one. ;)
Title: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 04:20:21 pm
Board for video's till timed and done with. Then I will merge.
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 04:32:57 pm
Al Smith  cookie I forgot to put a W or SQ on it. But it was work square chain.

Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 04:34:54 pm
Videos uploading.

Remember only 2 fastest cuts for times. Some had 4 cuts when I cut out ot cookie didnt fall. The cut out you will see half cookie missing and the cookie not falling throw out.  Keep only 2 fastest of the 3 good cuts.

Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 04:35:28 pm
How about a stock PS3

https://youtu.be/nmTR-vo6jU8
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 04:42:55 pm
https://youtu.be/KESi4kdkCLw
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 04:43:34 pm
2nd cookie shows knerf cutting out on top. Yes in a race it would be a DQ and not count.  If it is one of the fastest 2 cookies IMO it was still good enough. I seen my cut and was taken full cookie, just the cutters knerf was outside a bit.
Hopefully it was the slowest cut and it wont matter anyways. But 1st cut felt slowest in my mind.

https://youtu.be/3tk610bD-Pk
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 04:49:16 pm
https://youtu.be/3dDN01zsNRU
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 04:52:23 pm
Are you guys able to see round 2 thread here on this board?
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 04:54:53 pm
https://youtu.be/SohMVedulxM
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 04:56:02 pm
https://youtu.be/ThHWzS9OvpY
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 05:01:26 pm
https://youtu.be/VXCkvWbvBM0
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 05:06:13 pm
https://youtu.be/N-XW8IRqKJQ
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 09, 2016, 05:11:43 pm
I see it
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 05:13:30 pm
Still uploading and will publish all once done.  Then I think you will be able to watch them. 

Right now I was told you can see but not watch videos. Right?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 05:14:41 pm
I see it

 I liked both of your chains.

What made you use the PS3 for the race?  Then PS for the work.
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 09, 2016, 05:15:14 pm
They're there but dead. Just as before.
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 05:16:23 pm
https://youtu.be/oLtfr-23Bdg
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 05:17:10 pm
https://youtu.be/TmMnRiGscYA
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 09, 2016, 05:18:58 pm


I see it

 I liked both of your chains.

What made you use the PS3 for the race?  Then PS for the work.


The race one I sent was an afterthought. And I couldn't get anymore ps quickly to play with. My original race chain stayed home.
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: mdavlee . on January 09, 2016, 05:20:00 pm
Some are saying private again.
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 05:23:17 pm
https://youtu.be/pf0ZPvreIXc
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 05:24:19 pm
Some are saying private again.

I havent got into the setting or hit publish yet. Once all uploaded I will go through them all and set.
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 05:25:35 pm
https://youtu.be/r8YT35hFxTc
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 05:40:05 pm
https://youtu.be/cbm_V5M_i5A
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 05:40:58 pm
https://youtu.be/C8DduiXo9W8
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 05:59:33 pm


https://youtu.be/PdsrJZ6IGDY
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 06:00:23 pm
https://youtu.be/LT31896eaAA
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 06:01:14 pm
https://youtu.be/FgeQiWRMJC8
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 06:06:17 pm
https://youtu.be/iqlQC3tMzxc
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 06:06:55 pm
No #19 video 18 to 20

https://youtu.be/hZxk_b5Xb7Q
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 06:11:05 pm
https://youtu.be/PZyFU9EQhJ4
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 06:15:02 pm
https://youtu.be/0iCfduP1Ofg
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 06:19:13 pm
https://youtu.be/tpBFsbaTy6k
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 06:26:00 pm
https://youtu.be/cwnLprA-ZEo
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 06:28:53 pm
They're there but dead. Just as before.

All uploaded, published and live now.  http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/chain-build-off/round-2/

Can you all see and play them?
Title: Re: Chain build off
Post by: concretegrazer on January 09, 2016, 06:52:04 pm
All show active.
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 09, 2016, 07:11:37 pm
Some are saying private again.

Too Bad.  I am working on the timing numbers right now.   There are some big surprises.
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 07:15:24 pm
Some are saying private again.

Too Bad.  I am working on the timing numbers right now.   There are some big surprises.

They shouldnt be now?  That was before published.

Roger you can see any you want right?
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: jmester on January 09, 2016, 07:16:21 pm
Skippys video is not working
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 07:20:03 pm
Skippys video is not working

How about  this link. I see the other fine on my end.

https://youtu.be/PdsrJZ6IGDY
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: jmester on January 09, 2016, 07:22:31 pm
It is working now.

Cut your square ps chain looks great.
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 07:23:41 pm
Can you play and see all videos to time them now?
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: jmester on January 09, 2016, 07:24:33 pm
Yes I just watched them.
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 07:25:39 pm
It is working now.

Cut your square ps chain looks great.

Much better feeling chains out there in this.

Only 2 chains I really had to push on. 1 work, 1 race.  Looking at both they had what I thought looked similar angle deal going on to why.
But I dont know chit on square filing so who knows.
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: 3000 FPS on January 09, 2016, 07:28:42 pm
Some are saying private again.

Too Bad.  I am working on the timing numbers right now.   There are some big surprises.

They shouldnt be now?  That was before published.

Roger you can see any you want right?

I am doing all the race chains right now.   The only one I do not see is for gatekeeper unless he with drew.
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: jmester on January 09, 2016, 07:30:54 pm
Looks like the extra power helped out some of the slower chains catch up to the faster chains. Seems they are all real close. I can't time worth a hoot. So I will leave it to those that can
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: jmester on January 09, 2016, 07:31:51 pm
Cut put it as M Lee. On page 3
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: mdavlee . on January 09, 2016, 07:35:54 pm
I think I got all the race chains done.
Concretegrazer 2.70
squarefile 2.92
3000fps 2.93
gatekeeper/mlee 3.02
Awol 3.10
Hedgerow 3.12
1manband 3.59
aclarke 4.23
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: awol on January 09, 2016, 07:40:49 pm
   Looks like you had to climb right up on top of the saw and sit on it to even get mine to cut!
Title: Re: Round 2
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 09, 2016, 07:49:57 pm
Some are saying private again.

Too Bad.  I am working on the timing numbers right now.   There are some big surprises.

They shouldnt be now?  That was before published.

Roger you can see any you want right?

I am doing all the race chains right now.   The only one I do not see is for gatekeeper unless he with drew.

Gatekeeper = M - Lee
Title: Re: Round 2