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Title: Echo 8000
Post by: RedBaron on February 24, 2011, 08:42:16 pm
The first big logging saw i ever owned was a 8000 echo. It was and still is a good saw. What is everybody else take on this saw??????????
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun on February 25, 2011, 08:37:36 am
Never ever ran or seen the big echos.  8000 = 80cc ? 
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: RedBaron on February 25, 2011, 07:28:11 pm
yep i think it is 80cc. I  think they would make a good 5 cube race saw too :)
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun on February 25, 2011, 08:31:42 pm
Any pics of 8000? Get a free photobucket account is easiest to host.  http://photobucket.com/

or send me a email with them and I will take care of it for you.
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: stihlbro on February 25, 2011, 10:36:24 pm
I've got a John Deere version of the echo 8000. It was bought in 1992. Very torquey!!!!! Doesnt turn the rpms like other 5 cubes. I peeped around on the inside a couple years back and the piston, cyl, and porting looked awesome. D-shaped exhaust, closed transfers, nice piston. I dont remember what squish was, or the timing numbers at the moment. We tried to make it cut faster by just gearing up the sprocket, ended up with a 10 and it was no trouble pulling it, but the sprocket was bigger then the end of bar and did not want derail a chain. Even messed with trying to fit a larger carburetor on and that's were everything stopped. Never could find a larger replacement that would work as far as fuel line, throttle and choke ( a 372 has a larger carb). Anyhow the john deere witha 25 inch bar is no trouble, you can set the dogs in and lean all you want, it wont stall or stop the chain.  I've got some pictures, let me go look.
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Saw Dr on February 26, 2011, 02:09:13 pm
I've got a John Deere version of the echo 8000. It was bought in 1992. Very torquey!!!!! Doesnt turn the rpms like other 5 cubes. I peeped around on the inside a couple years back and the piston, cyl, and porting looked awesome. D-shaped exhaust, closed transfers, nice piston. I dont remember what squish was, or the timing numbers at the moment. We tried to make it cut faster by just gearing up the sprocket, ended up with a 10 and it was no trouble pulling it, but the sprocket was bigger then the end of bar and did not want derail a chain. Even messed with trying to fit a larger carburetor on and that's were everything stopped. Never could find a larger replacement that would work as far as fuel line, throttle and choke ( a 372 has a larger carb). Anyhow the john deere witha 25 inch bar is no trouble, you can set the dogs in and lean all you want, it wont stall or stop the chain.  I've got some pictures, let me go look.

I have never seen a JD version of the vertical cylinder 8000.  There are tons of yellow CS-750's out there though.  I almost got a 750 a while back, but lingered a couple of days too long.  The pawn shop closed the end of 2009, and I didn't want to part with the (very little) coin around christmas.

I have been wanting an 8000 to try a little port work on.  I see no reason why one of those could not be made to hang with the 460 crowd.  I currently have an Echo 5000 apart.  It looks to be a very well constructed saw save for the cheesy brake handle. 
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: stihlbro on February 27, 2011, 10:46:44 am
Couldnt get the John Deere to cut with a 460 as far as speed. Put the longer bars on and theres the difference. The echo is a hard on the hand to start. Its not that the compression is high, I think it has to do with ignition timing. Had to put a D handle on this one. Let me go get a picture. Joey
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun on February 27, 2011, 11:22:58 am
I have only found this JD colored one so far. Looks to be a JD 800v dont it?
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: stihlbro on February 27, 2011, 11:24:10 am
Some where I have a video of this saw cutting in a 10 by 10, cant find it right now. I remember the ports and cylinder is impressive looking compared to some of the stihls and husqvarna that I've seen the inside of. This saw sits anymore. As you can see from the pictures it all metal, heavy for sure. I personally think it needs more carburetion but never found anything that would work and still be functional without butchering it up.
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun on February 27, 2011, 08:19:59 pm
1987 John Deere 800V 80cc  Brand New

Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Saw Dr on February 27, 2011, 09:33:31 pm
A yellow 8000!  Looks interesting to me.  Maybe better with a pop-up and some creative work on the jug.  It the brake lever on those also made out of the same plastic as Barbie dolls?
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun on February 28, 2011, 08:37:29 pm
I'm trading for a used JD 800 at the moment.  So I got a question for you guys that have run these Echo 8000 and John Deere 800V.

Will they pull a 24" or 32" bar bar in rip cuts quartering dried hardwood elm etc?

I have sold all my 122cc 084 and 118cc 3120 and 166 and sold one 066 so far. I have 1 066 woods ported for doing the duties now with 24" and 32" and haven't had to use it yet this year.  I'm thinking of selling it if the 800 can do the duties. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 12, 2011, 07:19:24 am
Searching video's while waiting on going to a power lifting competition. No  me.  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojzBX17pTSA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK7jnDcp1cQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ybHM0gnzZI
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Snoopy on March 13, 2011, 12:47:59 pm
It should handle a 24 inch bar well ;)
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun on March 15, 2011, 04:27:39 pm
My JD 800V showed up today.  ;D   No card in camera so no pics to share yet.

Al I am going to put a 460 rescue handle on it for the comfort of my hands. So you can have the D-ring that is on this puppy. 
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun on March 16, 2011, 04:20:12 pm
Got 24" original bar in route and double dawgs  to finish it out.

The MS460 rescue handle is so much more comfortable to pull this puppy over with  :o.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/CopyofJD800PP505365008.jpg)
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: sharkey on March 24, 2011, 07:22:43 am
Hi Fella's,
Please allow me to introduce myself, Im Sharkey and this is my first post. 

I noticed the pics of the John Deere model 800v saw and am looking for information on it.  I have one too and see it is a rebadged Echo 8000.  When I noticed your pictures I thought to myself; 'these have to be a fairly rare saw'?  I have not seen any others prior to yours.  Not to be confused with the horizontal cylinder John Deere / Echo - 80EV or 750EVL. 

My saw came with a service manual that is dated August of 1987 and the manual is labeled "Horicon" Works?  Seems as though the saw could have been released as a John Deere model before the Echo model?  The serial number on mine is M0800VX-100238.  The serial plate reads "For Deere & Company - Made In Japan".  I bet the 'Made in Japan' label went over like a lead brick at the JD dealers back in 1987... 

Does anyone know when the Echo 8000 was first released?  I will try to get a few pics of mine up for you to see.

Thank you,
Sharkey
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun on March 24, 2011, 02:16:40 pm
I just got my JD from the original owner. So I dont know anything about them. 

All I know if the JD 80cc and the 505 82cc can do what I need, my woods ported 066 and mS660 will be sold or traded. Time will tell.

Would be interesting to see what you dig up on the JD versions though.

Sure wish they had used yellow on the clutch covers too.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/CopyofJD800PP505365009.jpg)
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: canadiancarguy on March 26, 2011, 12:04:29 am
I really wasn't impressed my Echo 8000 at all, the throttle feels disconnected, the saw doesn't like to rev and I didn't find much difference at all after I ported it. I flogged it on ebay, my saw was the second video. I was so disappointed in this saw, I almost quit porting. And then the next Dolmar 7900 I did turned out to be the best saw I ever made.....
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: sharkey on March 26, 2011, 12:25:56 am
Hi Car,
Sorry you didnt like that Echo of yours.  It sure was pretty.  Thought about trying to win it but have a couple.  When you told me you ran them transfers down into the case, I just knew you were not going to be happy with it.  You lost the low end right off the bat, right?   I made the same mistake on the first one of those I did, ended up with too much charge turbulence using that windowed full circle piston.
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: mdavlee . on March 26, 2011, 04:31:48 pm
Reading on the CS-8000 today because of this thread. I could never find any information on the max rpm out of the wood. Anyone know?
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Snoopy on March 26, 2011, 05:03:25 pm
I think it 12000 :-\
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 26, 2011, 06:36:16 pm
I really wasn't impressed my Echo 8000 at all, the throttle feels disconnected, the saw doesn't like to rev and I didn't find much difference at all after I ported it.

 :o :o :o :o I just got done flogging the JD 800. Holy chit man. This thing had throttle response like my woods ported 7901 had.  As far as I know this one is muffler modded and with a tighter squish. This thing was hauling balls at 14K.  I would swear it was woods ported but it was traded in as a stock saw.
It flat out ate my Poulan 505 82cc up in the cuts and was excepting it to eat the MS660 with muffler mod. I will give the 660 the edge, but someday I will time then in cuts in small wood and all wearing the 8T's again.

The idle sound  and muffler mod sound in the cut on the echo 8000 was the best sounding today too.
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: David Young on March 26, 2011, 09:22:33 pm
I would love to see what the porting looks like.  What is your compression Kev?

Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun on March 26, 2011, 09:30:43 pm
I would love to see what the porting looks like.  What is your compression Kev?

All I did was gas it up and run it today. Suppose to be stock porting with tightened up squish.  never been inside to know what a echo 8000 looks like.

All I know if this is stock porting with just squish tightened up. I  :-X LIKE!  ;D
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun on March 26, 2011, 09:48:18 pm
canadiancarguy  you got any pics inside the 8000?
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: canadiancarguy on March 26, 2011, 10:03:19 pm
Sorry no pics, I had the saw tore down for nearly a year before I finished the porting and put it back together. That probably worked against me too. I might get another one and try it or play with this one a little more and try again before I ship it off, I would feel better sending it away if it ran a little better. I did a pretty conservative port job, just widened slightly and put the transfers down into the case.  Anyways I compared the stock video (youtube echo 8000 it is the only echo video on youtube under canadiancarguy) to the ported video (photobucket echo 8000 also the only echo I have on video under canadiancarguy) and I guess there is a difference, but not what I had expected. Still could be lots left with some toying around...
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun on March 26, 2011, 11:13:01 pm
Looking at the IPL it appears to be closed port with windowed piston. Is this correct? 

I'm guessing closed port do to the windowed looking piston.

http://www.echo-usa.com/pdf/documentation/CS8000T1E_080205.pdf
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun on April 03, 2011, 06:05:18 pm
Finally found a pic of the early 8000 hand guard that would be on the JD 800.  The later ones appear to have had the chain brakes in IPL.
Think I might just try to retro fit a poulan hand guard or nothing at all.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/8000handguard.jpg)
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Al Smith on April 21, 2011, 06:08:49 am
Now I'm here to tell you that a rescue saw d-handle is the way to fly .It's the best 5 bucks I've ever spent . I have them on a 2100 Huskey,084 Stihl and a souped up 038 Mag . It's lot better than trying to recoupe your fingers after some bull headed saw tries to pull them off .
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: David Young on April 21, 2011, 01:27:14 pm
Finally found a pic of the early 8000 hand guard that would be on the JD 800.  The later ones appear to have had the chain brakes in IPL.
Think I might just try to retro fit a poulan hand guard or nothing at all.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/PP505PP365JD800/8000handguard.jpg)

Kev, if thats your saw it may cut better if you turn the chain around
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun on April 21, 2011, 01:42:58 pm
Finally found a pic of the early 8000 hand guard that would be on the JD 800.  The later ones appear to have had the chain brakes in IPL.
Think I might just try to retro fit a poulan hand guard or nothing at all.


Kev, if thats your saw it may cut better if you turn the chain around



Mine is yellow and a John Deere. I just found the pic to show the hand-guard I was looking for.

I noticed that on a fully restored painted up saw the other day.  ::)
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun on May 01, 2011, 03:04:41 pm
Husky large mount works, just a little large around bar studs 8mm studs I think or 8.5mm compared to 9mm (I cant remember). I still drilled out the oiler hole like I like them, instead of that angled oiler hole. 24" on it now.

Now if I could just find the bag with the double dawgs in it  :-[. About 2 hours of my life wasted so far looking  >:(.

Glad I didnt find a hand guard like I posted in the above pic now. The part where it is mounted to is broken.
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun on May 02, 2011, 07:22:56 pm
Got to love wives. Twice now she has figured something out or find something for me. Dang dawgs were in a husky 365-372 misc box that I went through twice yesterday  :-[.  Anyhow they are on now.

Hey Al you might try that method of finding something hidden from our site sometime.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 09, 2011, 12:41:58 pm
I think more then a few were surprised with the yellow echo yesterday with 24" full comp full chisel chain buried in hardwoods.  Blsnelling even took it with him to test against a Poulan 5200 85cc , Pioneer P60 98cc and he came back saying the JD 800 beat them both pushing hard and using normal bucking in hardwood testing.
That surprised me too.

I ran the 5200 in different smaller wood and that saw was super strong.  Cant believe the yellow echo ending up faster in the big wood testing with that saw being there  :o.
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: brokenbudget on November 19, 2011, 10:03:28 am
 ;D ;D i just picked one of these j.d. cv800's last week. the piston was a little scored, pulled it apart and cleaned it up (waiting on the cylinder and piston kit to come in) as i didn't want to wait ;D the rings were a little stuck but still look good. not ideal, but the saw was very cheap and after the clean up you wouldn't know anything was wrong.
it pulls just a hair over 140 psi, the squish is a stagering 58 thou big, yes 58thou. :D no base gasket to speak of either. saw runs pretty stong, not bad but i'm sure there is alot more in it just from closing the squish up a bit (or alot?). the 'D' shaped exhaust port looks tricky as there isn't much room for widening, and the transfers already look long in the cylinder and i would be slightly worried about bringing them any further back as the ring pin locations are pretty close. it could be done i'm sure, these are observations i made as i was cleaning the already pretty clean cylinder.
the saw starts sounding lean at around the 12000 rpm no load mark, pulls pretty good, holds a good 9500-9800rpm in the wood (18" sugar maple with a 24" bar/chain). you can stall it out but you need to really push. i like the feel of it, the weight in my hands feels good, not too heavy and has the weight in all the right places. might just be my go to bigger saw for a while.
can't wait to get the new p/c kit 8) 8)
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 19, 2011, 12:16:19 pm
bb the squish on this one I have  was tightened up. Good runner as mentioned at the testing above and beating out some strong saws.

Got any pics of yours. I like the yellow ones.
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: brokenbudget on November 19, 2011, 12:41:24 pm
the pics will have to wait!! ;D i'm about 300km's away from the saw right now :D i'll post some on wednesday :)
it's in very good shape. nothing broken, **** or cobbled---save for the piston :o but that was aaaaaaall meeeeee! :D i wouldn't do it unless i was confident it would safely run and be able to run for a long time. i'm still thinking of just using the original cylinder to do the grinding on. that way i'll have a back up to screw up after i screw up the first one ;D
STILL WAITING ON MY FREAKING DEGREE WHEEL!!!! may just contact paypal to file a complaint.... :'(
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 19, 2011, 12:59:46 pm
I had to segregate the JD 800 from the poulans going to the gtg.  The 505 was talking trash to it on the way there and the 800 ate the 505 lunch once there in the cut. Besides the 5200 and P60 lunches too.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/415/505475415mufflers001.jpg)
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: brokenbudget on November 19, 2011, 01:06:44 pm
your jonny must be taking the big blue pill to outgo a 505! i figure with just a squish tightening and re time on the ports this saw will really wake up. mine isn't bad at all now, just not an award winner--yet ;) not that i compete, just with friends :D  i suppose i "could" use my 7" wheel to take a look at the numbers on wednesday when i get home. now i'm all hot and bothered about a johndeere :-* ;D good grief!
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: brokenbudget on November 19, 2011, 01:29:10 pm
great, just great! >:( now i'm stuck here at work and all i can think of is getting home and teraring into that frigging 800 >:( thanks alot. now i won't get anything done :D
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: sharkey on November 21, 2011, 12:17:04 am
Installed an 8000 p&c set last week which came from the factory with a pop up and quad port cylinder.  The old flat top p&c ran a loose squish.  The new set after installation is around 180psi stock with about 15 minutes run time.  OEM Part number for the p&c set is p050005320.  This is rings, piston, clips, pin, base gasket, and top bearing.     

 http://www.mowpart.com/p25817/products/product_info.html

 
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun on November 21, 2011, 02:41:51 pm
Installed an 8000 p&c set last week which came from the factory with a pop up and quad port cylinder.  The old flat top p&c ran a loose squish.  The new set after installation is around 180psi stock with about 15 minutes run time.  OEM Part number for the p&c set is p050005320.  This is rings, piston, clips, pin, base gasket, and top bearing.     

Do you happen to have any pictures you could post? Sounds real gooooooood.

Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: brokenbudget on November 23, 2011, 10:32:30 am
i'd also like to know ;) by a "pop up" do you mean a domed piston? the newer cs800 top ends are what's being supplied, and they're a domed piston, not a 'pop up'. however i have seen both domed and flat tops on these saws from factory. the compression on a newer cs800 is usually around the 160-170psi range. show some pics. :)
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: sharkey on November 24, 2011, 09:47:02 am
The older 8000 pistons that Im familiar with are 52mm in diameter with a full circle skirt (not slipper style) using a 13mm pin.  The pistons use two 1.2mm rings and have a flat crown.  The cylinder design uses closed transfer ports, sometimes called tea 'cup style', that breath through the windows of the piston with one on each side.     

The newer parts that I recently installed were different. 

The new oem cylinder has a vertical divider cast down through the center of each transfer duct, with one large opening at the bottom, but with two openings on each side at the top transfer port position.  The transfer ports continue to be of the closed style and are fed through the piston windows.     

The new oem piston has a .030 flat top 'pop up' in the middle of the crown.  It has been cast this way from the looks of things.  When I take the pics I will look to see if the piston was domed first before having the pop up machined off flat.

On this engine I measured the old squish to be .040".  Standard static compression for the engine per the manual should be 135-150 psi.

The combustion chambers are small which helps make good power given the loose squish.       

There is a provision for a compression release on the side of the cylinder but Ive never see one that was installed.
       
I will get some pics up in a day or so.     
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 12, 2011, 07:40:42 pm
Just trying to link some new echo 8000 info.

piped echo thread  http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/ported-saws/piped-echo-8000/msg5497/#new

8000 piston and cylinder new and old editions  thread  http://chainsawrepair.createaforum.com/echo/echo-8000-piston-and-cylinder-pics-newest/msg5398/#new
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: brokenbudget on December 22, 2011, 08:00:57 am
WELL!  the echo echo is back together, it drank one tank of gas and is sitting just a hair under 180psi. :) seems to be a bit of a dog to pull over right now so i might think of tossing a decomp somewhere out of the way. good torque for the first tank and she was a little richer than i really wanted. just barely coming clean in the cut. the new 38" bar and clutch bearing should be at the dealer today or tomorrow. should have no problem pulling it 8)
good thing. me and my buddy need to go and clean up a 4' dia. elm on one of his co-workers backyard after christmas :) caaaaaaaaaan't wait! :-*
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 22, 2011, 04:29:33 pm
I bet that old one with tighten squish I have is around that. Hence I run a MS460 rescue handle on it D-ring. 

It could use a de-comp too. But I am used to it and my old 066 non decomp was the same.
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: brokenbudget on December 22, 2011, 05:04:02 pm
oh i have no problem starting it :) i just loved the look on alans' face when he slowly pulled the handle while the saw was sitting on the bench.
sheeesh! ( i won't repeat the actual word ;)) thats a little heavy!
feels like starting a husky 2100 :D
drop starts are a b1tch, but no biggie! hoping it won't climb too much after a few tanks. these saws seem to have sufficient cooling, and i don't think it would be a hot runner anyway. but i don't want to be running any of that funny smelling hi octane fuel i need for the mustang. i like regular fuel, even with the ethanol ;D :o

yup i've heard you saying you like them rescue handles (or snowblower handles up here :D). i figure one of them small rubber mcculloch handles from a mm110 would be a nice fit ;D
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: brokenbudget on January 04, 2012, 03:17:33 pm
well, i had to. ;D just couldn't resist. ;D i opened up the exhaust on the 800v :)
even gave it some useless 'bling' as the kids say. ;) added a 5/8"idx3/4" long piece of stainless tubing. gutted the exhaust, added the tubing to the deflector. polished the end and painted the rest of the deflector. the shinny don't do nuttin for running, but it makes people look. :D
(http://i44.tinypic.com/9azv5y.jpg)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/352hmyp.jpg)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/kbvro.jpg)
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 04, 2012, 04:28:51 pm
My 800V didnt have a chain brake. Just a hand guard at one time.
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: brokenbudget on January 04, 2012, 05:14:49 pm
you'll notice that on the 'swivel' (black metal part) there is a small threaded hole for a bolt. they would tell you to add the bolt if you were running a bar longer than 28". they figured the kickback hazard was slim to none and every time you would hit the tip the extra weight of the bar would prematurely
engauge the brake :)
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 27, 2013, 02:33:56 pm
Checked the psi today out of curiosity. Even with the D handle it was a bear to get the psi up to where it would stop climbing.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/201T/psi800338ship009.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g289/doemaster789/201T/psi800338ship008.jpg)
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: sharkey on January 30, 2013, 03:23:17 am
you'll notice that on the 'swivel' (black metal part) there is a small threaded hole for a bolt. they would tell you to add the bolt if you were running a bar longer than 28". they figured the kickback hazard was slim to none and every time you would hit the tip the extra weight of the bar would prematurely
engauge the brake :)

Where did you get this information?
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: brokenbudget on January 30, 2013, 05:49:21 am
you'll notice that on the 'swivel' (black metal part) there is a small threaded hole for a bolt. they would tell you to add the bolt if you were running a bar longer than 28". they figured the kickback hazard was slim to none and every time you would hit the tip the extra weight of the bar would prematurely
engauge the brake :)

Where did you get this information?

found in the user manual that came with the saw.
Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 17, 2015, 07:00:58 pm
I think BB runs a 36" on a 8000. I am trying to decide on which 36" 3/8 116DL chain to start with on this saw. Full Skip or Full Comp. I'm sort of thinking full skip.


@brokenbudget


Title: Re: 8000 echo
Post by: Eccentric on March 17, 2015, 08:08:17 pm
I think BB runs a 36" on a 8000. I am trying to decide on which 36" 3/8 116DL chain to start with on this saw. Full Skip or Full Comp. I'm sort of thinking full skip.


@brokenbudget


I'd go full skip.  Chip clearance gets to be a problem with full comp over 28" or so.  Worse with some woods (like Doug Fir) than others however.  Also.........................full skip means a lot less cutters to file.8)
Title: Re: Echo 8000
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 17, 2015, 08:15:12 pm
That was my thinking too. I know my 32" full skip square was out cutting my full comp square on my ported 066. IMO it shouldnt have but it was.
Title: Re: Echo 8000
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 18, 2015, 04:50:37 pm
Looks like Oregon 72 JGX will be the choice. http://www.oregonproducts.com/pdfs/72LGX_A107022-AH_low-res.pdf

Wonder if Carlton has a full skip 3/8 050 chain.     @Nathaniel Vansickle

Time to do some more searching.
Title: Re: Echo 8000
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on March 18, 2015, 05:00:06 pm
A1LMSK 3/8 .050 full skip
Title: Re: Echo 8000
Post by: Eccentric on March 18, 2015, 05:07:05 pm
I run JGX on my 32" + bars on 5ci class saws.  I have a loop of that Carlton skip chisel (105DL) but haven't ran it yet.
Title: Re: Echo 8000
Post by: Cut4fun . on April 10, 2015, 07:02:35 pm
I am even more impressed with this 800V 8000 today. I forgot back in 2011 or so I had put a 8T and short bar for gtg fun play in 10x10 cants. 
I have been running 24" 8T buried since then and at the 2013 GTG etc when it was out cutting 5200 P61 etc.

I had wondered why the 36" 116DL was tight. So I counted to see above. 7T on there now.

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Title: Re: Echo 8000
Post by: Eccentric on April 10, 2015, 09:23:00 pm
Nice.  Now get 'em in some wood. 8)
Title: Re: John Deere 800V Echo 8000
Post by: Cut4fun on August 09, 2015, 12:03:46 pm
New owner of the john deere 800v sent me 3 pics and text yesterday.  Wish I knew how to transfer pics, but I am stupid like that.  :'(

(( It's a ripper  ;D   Pulled the 28" through dead ash like it was nothing. ))
Title: Re: Echo 8000
Post by: WLZecho8000P on September 15, 2017, 12:39:50 pm
Wouldn't trade mine for any new saw.  Hard on the back, but she will run first pull longer than I want to run her ;D