Chainsaw Repair

Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Husqvarna => Topic started by: Cut4fun . on September 27, 2016, 02:39:07 pm

Title: 394
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 27, 2016, 02:39:07 pm
Local logger offered me a 394  PHO.

Started having starting issues when shut off when hot. 

He is buying a 2188 and said tired of fighting this one. Had a hole in left side bar oil tank and patched too. Otherwise ran great he said till the hot start issues.

She looks rough.

Whats the norm on a used runner PHO?
Title: Re: 394
Post by: Cut4fun on September 27, 2016, 05:54:49 pm
Wonder if it could be a coil?  ((during warm weather it is hard to start after you've run it.))

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Title: Re: 394
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 27, 2016, 06:49:52 pm
He said this. So I am thinking not a coil. Carb kit maybe impulse etc. Watcha you all think.

((No it stays running fine until you shut it off then go to restart and it wont when hot

I've had it I've replaced the rim sprocket, air filter and filter cover (has the 395 style).during warm weather if is hard to start after you've run it.i just don't want to put anymore money in because got my eye on a new one.))
Title: Re: 394
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 27, 2016, 07:13:19 pm
husqvarna 394 specs http://www.acresinternet.com/cscc.nsf/ed1d619968136da688256af40002b8f7/d994e02839f6e5f288256b52001ad885?OpenDocument

Know the bar that is going on this after I check it over.

36"   Tsumura     I am calling a 37" bar that I have here  (longer then my 36" echo 116DL bar). They show as a 36" bar 119DL / 120DL  in the D009 mount. 3/8 .063   A013.

pic on 475

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Title: Re: 394
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 27, 2016, 07:36:47 pm
 37" Tsumura 119DL have a new 063 full skip and the used full comp chains.

Guess if I cant handle the weight of it I'll sell or trade off the package later.
Title: Re: 394
Post by: Real1shepherd on September 28, 2016, 02:13:06 am
Something to be said about the phenomena of 'muscle memory'. I can still pick up a 2100 and use it all day....and I'm in my 60's.

I do want a 394 however....something most similar in free revving & torque to the 2100/2101's that I used loggin' back in the day.  I'm tired of paying crazy prices for worn 2100 parts....ridiculous.

Kevin
Title: Re: 394
Post by: jmester on September 28, 2016, 05:34:33 am
Does the tank vent check out ok? If it does I would be looking to get another coil. Sounds like some of the same problems I had with the one I did a thread on a while back. If you do buy another coil try and get an oem. Had problems with the aftermarket one I bought.
Title: Re: 394
Post by: HolmenTree on September 28, 2016, 08:22:28 am
Something to be said about the phenomena of 'muscle memory'. I can still pick up a 2100 and use it all day....and I'm in my 60's.

I do want a 394 however....something most similar in free revving & torque to the 2100/2101's that I used loggin' back in the day.  I'm tired of paying crazy prices for worn 2100 parts....ridiculous.

Kevin
I've met a few fallers who swung 2100-36" Huskies on the BC coast 6 1/2 hours a day . Super skinny guys who you'd think would have a hard time starting it. But try follow them walking through the bush and you quickly see how strong they are.
But like so many of them with one shoulder injury they were out of a job. If they were lucky enough they may have enough in them to be able to buck at the landing.

My brother who collects saws has a 2100 that never had fuel in it with original box and all.
Title: Re: 394
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 28, 2016, 12:40:47 pm
Just to heavy for my liking. 18lb 6.4oz PHO  Whats the norm used price on these, guessing $300-$500. They seem to be alot cheaper to buy then the 066 660 I used to own.  This one was asking $300 and then $250.

I side stepped it for a home repair that happened and comes first , it is just to heavy JMO too.  If you want me to check into it for you PM me. 

So I wont get to see what the problem was.  Like figuring out what ails them though.



leached pic of another from weight threads.

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Title: Re: 394
Post by: HolmenTree on September 28, 2016, 11:09:42 pm
I like my 395XP way better then my 066Mag. Haven't touched my 066 since buying the 395 seven  years ago. 395 has way more power and smoother and don't notice the weight when the dogs are set in the wood anyways.
Title: Re: 394
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 29, 2016, 01:27:37 pm
I would have been carrying it in the hills of southern Ohio.  So the weight would have killed me. It kills me carrying my little 60cc with 20". 
So I guess I will stick to my 15lbs of 83cc still for now.

Older out of shape heavy saw and billy goat hills not a good combo.   :D :P
Title: Re: 394
Post by: HolmenTree on September 29, 2016, 02:50:41 pm
Cut, yeah we have lots of hills up here too but do what I do.....you need  good hired help.
Here's mine, he weighs 285 lbs and can carry over a half ton up a 40% grade and never whined once :D


Title: Re: 394
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 29, 2016, 05:01:53 pm
Now if I could talk dad out of his 6 wheeler for the hills. ;)      I'd prob roll the dang thing.   :P

Wrong pic. was looking for one of the hills paths straight up.





Title: Re: 394
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 29, 2016, 05:05:30 pm
This is on top of one of my hills.

Title: Re: 394
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 29, 2016, 05:09:07 pm
Think this is looking down to the ole logging road that I have a deer stand on.

Title: Re: 394
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 29, 2016, 05:12:41 pm
Those are all old pics on hill #3 cutting pine.  I have a bunch of poplars I need to get in a drop on #1 and #2. Been putting it off but getting the stuff together to do so.

I retire late next year so as long as I live I have the time coming up.
Title: Re: 394
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 29, 2016, 05:17:02 pm
Land #2, hill #3 past pic
Title: Re: 394
Post by: HolmenTree on September 29, 2016, 05:24:42 pm
Great pics!
I love the colors your hardwood forests out east show at this time of year.
Title: Re: 394
Post by: Cut4fun . on September 29, 2016, 05:51:16 pm
Guy I went to HS with owns across from my 2 places. Took pic from his place across and pieced 3 pics together to show. From mid to later 90's pic was taken I think.
Now they got cameras that can do that for ya.  :P

From across the road back all of it. Was going to build when retired but now just thinking as using for hunting and giving to my son.





Title: Re: 394
Post by: Real1shepherd on September 30, 2016, 01:57:28 am
I've met a few fallers who swung 2100-36" Huskies on the BC coast 6 1/2 hours a day . Super skinny guys who you'd think would have a hard time starting it. But try follow them walking through the bush and you quickly see how strong they are.
But like so many of them with one shoulder injury they were out of a job. If they were lucky enough they may have enough in them to be able to buck at the landing.

My brother who collects saws has a 2100 that never had fuel in it with original box and all.


I used a 6ft bar in Doug Firs for over a yr. Yeah, I was stout. Used Silvey tree jack hydraulic packs too, along with a springboard in the biggest stuff. Then we had to 'downsize' to 42" bars. Moved to CO and downsized again to 36" bars which I still have.

My 2100 is sick and needs time on a bench. I still want the 394 as it's the saw most like the 2100, because at my age, I'm not doing the 3120....lol!

Your brother has a 'dream saw'. He could probably get $3,000+ for an unused 2100...the last one like that on eBay did.

Kevin 


Title: Re: 394
Post by: Eccentric on December 12, 2016, 02:34:00 pm
Kevin I recently fixed a friend's 395XP with an intermittent hot restart (and sometimes cold start) issue.  Troubleshooted it to the ignition module.  Replaced the module and that cured the problem.

They're big saws for big wood.  A specialized tool these days.  Most pro loggers (except perhaps in a few regions) are using the 660/661/394/395 class saws far less than they used to (and instead are running 390XP/461/372XP/562XP saws most of the time).  A good 5ci class saw will handle 90% of what a 394/95XP will with less weight and strain on us, and wood that requires that last 10% of capability only comes up 1% of the time (if that) for most folks.  I use my 181SE far more than my bigger saws.............and I use my 65-72cc saws far more than the 181.  I'm no logger of course...
Title: Re: 394
Post by: Real1shepherd on December 12, 2016, 02:48:34 pm
Aaron,
Yeah I know...scale was starting to get smaller when I quit loggin' in the middle 80's. I have kind of a unique rep here now as being the guy to call when there's a 'trouble' tree of huge girth that needs to come down in a specific direction. I also build fence for a lot of landowners that have property down to rivers. They usually have some stands of large trees that have been feeding off those water sources. Lots of gigantic cottonwoods and many pines. The cottonwoods break in the wind storms and they should have all been cleared out when they bought those properties, but they keep them because they're large trees.  Not very glamorous work compared to taking down the Doug Firs of lore, but it keeps me going with the saws.

I have muscle memory still from running the 2100, so weight isn't a problem all day. I suspect it's the same with a lot of old loggers. I miss using my ailing 2100 and have been in a bad mood since it quit working properly....but in a REAL bad mood about the cost of its parts these days.....basically just a collectors saw now. I just feel like the 394 would be a nice sub when I need a saw that big. I've got a bevy of older J'reds for the smaller stuff and really enjoy using them like the 80 & 90.

Kevin
Title: Re: 394
Post by: Eccentric on December 12, 2016, 03:33:47 pm
Hello Kevin.  I was actually directing my last post toward the other Kevin (Cut4Fun).  I should have quoted his post in mine to prevent confusion.........especially since I posted right after your post instead of his...

I understand where you're coming from.  I am going to rebuild a 394XP to keep in the truck for big stuff.  We have some big oaks, DF, and Eucalyptus out here that I get into every now and then.  Mostly blowdowns.  Also have a 2101XP on the way that'll be used (occasionally) for the same thing.  I've been using my 288XP for these jobs, but a bigger saw with more bar would come in handy sometimes.
Title: Re: 394
Post by: Real1shepherd on December 12, 2016, 04:17:36 pm
Aaron,
Sorry for the confusion/mixup.....good luck with your 394 rebuild.

Kevin