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Title: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 17, 2017, 09:38:05 pm
Just trying to find info on who is making the VP 2 cycle oil? 

16 ounces is $6.98  So $14 a qt   its red

Anyone tried it?

Just trying to find another oil to offer folk to buy and  I can trust and  stand behind.

https://vpracingfuels.com/product/2-cycle-synthetic-oil/

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Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: mdavlee . on February 17, 2017, 11:26:29 pm
I'll try to find some next week. I know I can't tell by the smell what it is in their SEF fuel
Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 18, 2017, 08:56:20 am
It's funny on their website they dont show the 16oz bottle for sale. But I seen it. Reason I liked that at least you could mix 40:1 or 32:1 easily too. 5gals at 40:1 or 4 gals 32:1
Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: mdavlee . on February 19, 2017, 03:43:10 am
Yeah I like the 16 Oz or up. Easy to mix big quantities of fuel or a gallon of flush fuel
Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: Cut4fun . on February 19, 2017, 10:21:58 am
Yep for me 16 to 20 would be perfect as I mix 5gal at a time.   Why I buy quarts.

I keep 1gal and 2gal mix on hand for the locals that stop in. Thats as far as they mix at a time.
VP small bottles are like 2.6oz  and I think  there is a 5.2oz too.  So I wpnt buy those.
Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: mdavlee . on February 19, 2017, 09:06:33 pm
A guy is sending me some of the small bottles. I'll mix a gallon up with pump gas and see what it changes compared to what I've been running.
Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 05, 2017, 10:02:56 am
Any feedback Mike?

That pissrev guy says it checks out and is blended just for VP Racing San Antonio TX.  No longer out sourcing someone else oil.   8)

Guess I will buy some to stock just in case.






Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: mdavlee . on March 05, 2017, 06:19:19 pm
It hasn't shown up. I need to go to Walmart so I'll probably see if they have some. I have run some of the new 40:1 fuel they make. No complaints from the oil in it.
Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on March 06, 2017, 05:13:33 pm
I went thru my price sheets and can only find the common size bottles, 2.6, 5.2, 12.8 oz.

prices arent to bad. doubt i will be trying any though as its more expensive than red armor/makita oils plus the added hassle of getting it.
Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 06, 2017, 05:48:49 pm
I went thru my price sheets and can only find the common size bottles, 2.6, 5.2, 12.8 oz.

prices arent to bad. doubt i will be trying any though as its more expensive than red armor/makita oils plus the added hassle of getting it.

LOL you have plenty of oils already. ;)  Most I seen for any dealer compared around my local area.
Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 06, 2017, 05:58:16 pm
Just saving here too.


   

    Spectrum Oil Co was bought out by Phillips 66 in 2014. http://investor.phillips66.com/investors/news/news-release-details/2014/Phillips-66-Acquires-Specialty-Lubricants-Manufacturer/default.aspx

    Here is the MSDS database of all products which they make:
    http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/results.aspx?LanguageFilter=**&MSDSTypeFilter=USDS&SearchValue=%

    The current formulation of Husqvarna XP oil shows <10% Polymerized fatty acid ester. The old formula did not have any ester in it.
    http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829482&Language=EN&IssueDate=2/13/2014&SubFormat=USDS

    Red Armor (Shindaiwa and Echo versions) is still showing no ester in the formula according to Phillips 66.
    http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829447&Language=EN&IssueDate=12/4/2013&SubFormat=USDS
    http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829626&Language=EN&IssueDate=12/4/2013&SubFormat=USDS

    Maruyama Blue Ultra Shield is the same formulation as Red Armor.
    http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829528&Language=EN&IssueDate=12/4/2013&SubFormat=USDS

    Dolmar High Performance oil has 10-30% Ester .
    http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829439&Language=EN&IssueDate=12/9/2013&SubFormat=USDS

    For you Aussies the Jakmax Syn looks good. Same as Makita and Poulan Pro Synthetic. 10-30% ester.
    http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829493&Language=EN&IssueDate=12/9/2013&SubFormat=USDS

    Makita Synthetic:
    http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829524&Language=EN&IssueDate=12/9/2013&SubFormat=USDS
    Poulan Pro syn:
    http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829579&Language=EN&IssueDate=3/18/2015&SubFormat=USDS

    Honda HP2:
    http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=817713&Language=EN&IssueDate=4/16/2015&SubFormat=USDS

    Woodlandpro formula no longer contains ester as of 2-21-17:
    http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829708&Language=EN&IssueDate=2/21/2017&SubFormat=USDS

    Yamalube 2R:
    http://w3apps.phillips66.com/NetMSDS/ViewPDF.aspx?fileName=829733&Language=EN&IssueDate=8/24/2016&SubFormat=USDS
     
Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on March 06, 2017, 06:01:04 pm
I went thru my price sheets and can only find the common size bottles, 2.6, 5.2, 12.8 oz.

prices arent to bad. doubt i will be trying any though as its more expensive than red armor/makita oils plus the added hassle of getting it.

LOL you have plenty of oils already. ;)  Most I seen for any dealer compared around my local area.

If i ever get around to ordering VP fuels for in the shop you better believe there will be at least a couple cases of VP 2T oil on the order as well but for now my space constraints keep me from stocking the VP fuel simply because of the order volume it takes to get good prices and not get eaten up in shipping costs
Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 06, 2017, 06:42:01 pm
I went thru my price sheets and can only find the common size bottles, 2.6, 5.2, 12.8 oz.

prices arent to bad. doubt i will be trying any though as its more expensive than red armor/makita oils plus the added hassle of getting it.

LOL you have plenty of oils already. ;)  Most I seen for any dealer compared around my local area.

If i ever get around to ordering VP fuels for in the shop you better believe there will be at least a couple cases of VP 2T oil on the order as well but for now my space constraints keep me from stocking the VP fuel simply because of the order volume it takes to get good prices and not get eaten up in shipping costs

When ever you get moved into the new shop. Give me a heads up for a future planned trip.   8)
Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 06, 2017, 06:43:03 pm
Just curious with all the oils you have to choose from at your shop. What do you use for your personal saws?
Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on March 06, 2017, 07:30:02 pm
saber @ 50:1 most of the time. dolmar @40:1 the rest of the time.

most of the stuff we sell leaves with a tank of saber. truthfully i think the saber needs run at 60:1 but i am not brave enough to do it.
Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 06, 2017, 08:15:51 pm
That surprises me on the Saber. The Dolmar I would run and sell myself.   

Seems like the dolmar makita poulan all have the same type of blending going on in that one link posted above.
Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on March 07, 2017, 01:40:34 pm
I am not real particular on the oil as long as its good oil. I wont run or sell the echo powerblend and advise people to stay away from certain others.
Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 07, 2017, 02:19:03 pm
I am not real particular on the oil as long as its good oil. I wont run or sell the echo powerblend and advise people to stay away from certain others.

Agree on stay away from powerblend. What others do you advise against? 

I dont like what I see from the stihl orange when stuff comes in.
Title: Re: Who makes VP 2 stroke oil
Post by: Nathaniel Vansickle on March 07, 2017, 08:35:33 pm
orange stihl is the big one. trimmers running that stuff will carbon the exhaust port clear shut.