Chainsaw Repair
Husqvarna - Stihl - Poulan - Jonsered - Dolmar chainsaws and more => Stihl => Topic started by: Cut4fun . on September 05, 2017, 03:08:47 pm
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Dont see many of these around here. Stihl 066 artic heated handle.
6 pics
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Hey,
Appears to be Red-Eye also. Unusual!!
Larry. HOS
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Hey,
Appears to be Red-Eye also. Unusual!!
Larry. HOS
Hey Larry. 8)
I noticed that too.
That and artic is why I saved these pics.
Hope this finds everything going good for you.
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I'd post pics of my 1992 066Mag Artic red light if I could. The saw in the above pics looks exactly like mine except mine had a "Digital" decal on the top cover and a dual outlet muffler.
But also my Arctic had a heated carb not heated handles. Up here in chilly Canada where we had to log in down to -40 below it was more important to keep the carb from icing up then to worry about cold hands.
We central Canadians are already climatized. Just a good pair of wool liners in leather mittens with a trigger finger on the right hand is all we need.... haha.
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I remember your 066 pics. I will see if I have them still.
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Some found so far. I know there is more here in a thread.
Willard I am just guessing that 066 artic in original post has heated handles too. No clue really.
Larry do you have any info on the ones sold here back then?
Willard's saw.
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Thanks for finding those Kevin. I see the heated handle switch on your other 066 you earlier posted. But I think back in those early red light days Arctic meant one or the other...heated carb or handles.
I sold my 066 (pictured) last winter and gave the guy 1 month warranty but then took it back when he didn't come up with the money.
I'm going through it this winter with a total OEM rebuild, sandblast, powder coat and hopefully sell it down in the States.
I'm opening up my shop to the public in a few months as a saw sharpening and bar, chain retail business.
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Thanks for finding those Kevin. I see the heated handle switch on your other 066 you earlier posted. But I think back in those early red light days Arctic meant one or the other...heated carb or handles.
I sold my 066 (pictured) last winter and gave the guy 1 month warranty but then took it back when he didn't come up with the money.
I'm going through it this winter with a total OEM rebuild, sandblast, powder coat and hopefully sell it down in the States.
I'm opening up my shop to the public in a few months as a saw sharpening and bar, chain retail business.
Does yours have the same switch?
Good deal on business side. It brings in extra $$$ on your own time on the side. ;)
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No switch on my 066 Arctic. Its heated carb is controlled by a built in thermostat that keeps the carb at a constant 77F according to Stihl Canada.
Since moving up here to Thompson 3 years ago my tree service winter off season is now 2 extra months longer. 5 months off last winter so I definitely need a new business plan.
Just going to sharpening sawchain and sell bars, chains and sprockets. Maybe get into tuneup but no rebuilds or repairs.
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TS shared some info with me on the saw.
That's the newer smooth style arctic handlebar with a different resistance value than what the generator is... they overheat and don't work you need to update the element in the rear handle and the generator... glad you walked away.
I've learned that if you don't have copious parts to back up one crossed wire you shouldn't own Arctics....
Two Versions of Arctic Stihl' s
Single Generator Wire Version (looks like speaker cable) ...only contains a handlebar heater and rear handle heater ...
Double Wire Generator Version (Green and yellow wires)
Handle bar and handle heater plus a heater for the carb with thermostat switch that operates below 70°F...
These two don't interchange and have vastly different resistance values
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Does the same apply to just a saw with heated handles. I am running a single wire generator. But my handlebar is ribbed and not smooth as in the pictures above. Never dawned on me about different resistance or Output of the generator.
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Jason I dont know this stuff. Trevor was giving me info and saved here. Ribbed handle would be the older right handle right?
The one in pic here he said had a newer wrong handle smooth.
I'll copy and paste your question to him.
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Jason he wants to know what saw?
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Ms 660
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Maybe the difference is mine is a half wrap verses a full wrap as to smooth or ribbed.
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Holy crap Just re read the 1st post.$649USD for this 066. That's $801 Cad what I was planning on selling my low hour 395XP-36 for.
Looks alot like my 066 Arctic Mag like my old pics Kevin posted earlier.
Still got mine and just in the process of rebuilding it and selling it.
Had a dickhead carver last year who was to buy it , a 10mm 044 and a Stihl BT45 gas drill all for a bargain price of $1000 CDN.
I trusted him as he carved at a few of my competitions over the years so I let him take all 3 home and try them out. A week later he brings them back except the drill and says he'll buy them in a month when he gets his tax refund in.
A month later I call him and he says he owes the government money so he can't buy the saws and drill.
I dig the saws out of storage and find the 066 doesn't start, no spark.
Pulled the plug and electrode gap is completely bridged with carbon. Find out the pto main bearing is gone and that's what carboned up the spark plug.
I call him and asked him "why didn't you tell me the 066 quit running?" He says "ran good for me". Then I was real pissed and told him to bring my drill back. His wife brought it to me.
A week later on Facebook him and his wife are posting pics of themselves sitting on the beach in the Caribbean . I didn't push it any further as the bearing may have been already going. Maybe the carbon bridged as a sludge that dried after he shut her down.
Never had the saw apart and bought it new in 1992.Still ran strong.
Enough of that rant. Here's 3 pics of my 066 Arctic Mag red Light.
Notice the heating elements on the carb. 2nd pic shows no switch so no heated handles.
Last pic shows a new top handle and new dual outlet muffler cover.
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Holy heck I dont remember your 066 looking like that. Did he do all of that? Your other pics I posted on 1st page.
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Maybe the difference is mine is a half wrap verses a full wrap as to smooth or ribbed.
He was in the woods. So dont know when he will get back today or not.
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Holy heck I dont remember your 066 looking like that. Did he do all of that? Your other pics I posted on 1st page.
I just took these pictures this afternoon of the old 066. No the new front handle and muffler cover are "new" from about 8 years ago when I last used the saw.
Just new for a well worn 25 year old saw.
Besides the bum pto bearing she still runs good . I can't remember ever changing the diaphragms in the carb. Factory original. Maybe the heated carb helped kept them limber all those years.
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Maybe the difference is mine is a half wrap verses a full wrap as to smooth or ribbed.
He was in the woods. So dont know when he will get back today or not.
What I was sent = the older ribbed style will work with the single wire generator ... I'll have resistance values in the morning ...he should be just fine ... if anything is mismatched when he turns it on one element (handlebar or rear handle) will heat faster than the other before it shorts from over heating ... if he sees that, act quick and turn it off ...let me know how it goes I can get resistance values if he needs them they are buried in my literature Binder for Arctics
@jmester
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I have a picture here of a 1986 064AV crankcase I have that had heated handles.
You can see the 1 wire coming out from under the flywheel's generator.
Last pic is another newer 066 I have with a decomp and poly flywheel that only needs a chain brake lever and some new rubber parts. The fuel line is just a puddle of black tar in the fuel tank :D
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They both heat up at the same time. I would like to have the resistance numbers just to have them in case if I have a problem. I have ran it with a single wire generator for a couple of years and it works good. Just got a little nervous when I read the post thinking I was going to mess up a $60 rear heating element or a $100 and some dollar handlebar.
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They both heat up at the same time. I would like to have the resistance numbers just to have them in case if I have a problem. I have ran it with a single wire generator for a couple of years and it works good. Just got a little nervous when I read the post thinking I was going to mess up a $60 rear heating element or a $100 and some dollar handlebar.
Will send this to him
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@jmester he said you can go that way but not the other.
you can if you put the older handle bar with a newer two wire generator as they are not backwards compatible
if you want I'll forward the entire bulletin with numbers what your email?
I have him emailing me the info
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Sounds great thanks Kevin.
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So I can run the ribbed handle on the single wire generator. But not the 2 wire generator. Right?
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So I can run the ribbed handle on the single wire generator. But not the 2 wire generator. Right?
You know these. I dont at all. Actually getting confused with the different handles and the wires LOL
I only had XPG and muffler heat ones.
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TS = here's all the relevant info for Arctic version saws in the 044,046,660 ranges
I know he has a 660 but it uses the same single wire generator and components as the 044 046s just a different flywheel but the magnet diameter changes in 1999 are the same across the ranges going to a two wire setup. It can be quite confusing after you get to reading. Best of luck !
Trev
OK I am downloading and saving to HD the stihl 650 660 044 046 artic
Stihl 650 660 is the service manual and to big to link here. But can email.
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@jmester going to email all 3 to the email used here
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Thanks I got them. I will have to open them on the computer as they won't open on my iPad.
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Thanks I got them. I will have to open them on the computer as they won't open on my iPad.
Didnt send the 650 660 SM figured you already had it.
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Yes I already have the 660 service manual. Thanks for going out of the way to give me a hand :)
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Now you have the info. Someday I might need you to explain it. ;)
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Just finished putting my 1991 066Mag Arctic back together with new OEM part overhaul.
Putting her back to work tomorrow. First time in about 10 years.
Stuck a 25" ES on it and have spare 28" and 36" ES bars if wood gets bigger.
Interesting she ran good with half of the PTO bearing's balls missing :D as the pic shows.
Interesting the new OEM bearing only has 7 ball bearings. Old one had about 16.
Put the original P/C back on as they were still in near perfect condition.
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Think the old pto bearing is just missing the retainer and used 8. Pulled down saws that the bearing was like that too.
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Think the old pto bearing is just missing the retainer and used 8. Pulled down saws that the bearing was like that too.
I wonder if the old 16 ball bearing style was more durable then the later 8 ball bearing?The retainer was still intact on the crank journal side.
If you look at the seal next to it you'll see a big wad of sludge like the balls dissolved or something.
No damage to the piston or cylinder what so ever.
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Think the old pto bearing is just missing the retainer and used 8. Pulled down saws that the bearing was like that too.
I wonder if the old 16 ball bearing style was more durable then the later 8 ball bearing?The retainer was still intact on the crank journal side.
If you look at the seal next to it you'll see a big wad of sludge like the balls dissolved or something.
No damage to the piston or cylinder what so ever.
Ok now I got it Kevin. In my excitement getting the 066 together I got totally clued out on that.
Yes plastic retainer is gone and a blob stuck to the seal. Haha goes to show how many bottom ends I changed out . I did a lot in the 1970's early '80s on the old Jonsereds but my memory doesn't work so good after 40 years ago.
So after last winter wrenching and sharpening other people's junk for the first time I'd sooner be outdoors making money cutting wood like I'm doing right now.
Here's some pics of a couple of jobs I did today.
Feels great to have the 066 back in my hands .Sure don't miss those clumsy high top Huskies. About vibration? My 066 is smooth, must got a balanced to zero deflection crank in it, I don't know but she's smooth.
Also put the 63PS 16" back on my new MS261CM. Been a while since using .325 23RS for the last year and the 63PS was a pleasant surprise with the bigger diameter 7 pin Picco rim over the tiny 7 pin .325 rim.
Just waiting to fill my 261 066 herd with a 462 with a 20" Stihl Light bar to take the main go to saw chores.