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Title: Full House race chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 26, 2017, 09:15:41 pm
Was checking out some full house race chain from out west today. 



Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: HolmenTree on October 26, 2017, 11:40:58 pm
Chain looks like old .500 chisel bit. Can't remember the fellas name who touted full house race chain.
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: mdavlee . on October 27, 2017, 02:01:08 am
Art Martin perhaps?
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on October 27, 2017, 06:55:35 am
Yep Art Martin made chain.   
Seen some of his 3/8 etc stuff made for out west racing.  He did some things different from what I seen on them.  It just isnt what I was used to seeing.
I dont know if it would have been good for our type of racing here. But will never know.
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: jmester on March 11, 2018, 09:55:31 pm
New Oregon powercut 73 EXL chain I did for a friend overseas.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180312/559421baf1e05b6e785f779815d7847d.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180312/05c218b058c523e1bda2943df6c1cab4.jpg)


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Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: jmester on March 11, 2018, 09:56:51 pm
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Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: dpjones on March 11, 2018, 10:33:21 pm
Looks like  lot of teeth to sharpen, how would that do on a ms660 with muffler hollowed out with a cross mmws cylinder? Looks like more the teeth, smoother the cut or am I wrong?
DJ
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: HolmenTree on March 11, 2018, 11:03:46 pm
Back in the day Windsor made a full house chain for the metal industry to cut soft metal .
Nice job jm. Is the guy using it for race chain?
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: HolmenTree on March 11, 2018, 11:18:37 pm
Yep Art Martin made chain.   
Seen some of his 3/8 etc stuff made for out west racing.  He did some things different from what I seen on them.  It just isnt what I was used to seeing.
I dont know if it would have been good for our type of racing here. But will never know.
Way before my time but I remember that Art Martin thread on AS.
I got it saved on one of my old lap tops, (imagine all the treasures I'll find when I open those laptops 20 years from now).
Cahoon was flaming Art calling him a liar and the mods deleted all his posts. Art packed in the thread then his health turned for the bad.

Looking at that full house  .500  race chain you can see it's stoned, cut down to nothing . Looks like the depth gauges were left factory high and thinned out with a sharp top edge to cut a kerf for the cutters.
Would work ok in softwood in the PNW but from seeing some missing cutter pieces would not be very stout for eastern hardwood.
Alot of chassis for extra baggage with that .500  that's where the .404 HT shines today.

Going to have to make some more 3/8" 76LG high tooth chain.
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: jmester on March 12, 2018, 06:42:55 am
I have never run full house chain. I have heard it is very smooth.

Not sure what my friend is going to do with it. All I know is that he said he was interested in trying one. So I made one up for him, as he does not have a breaker or spinner.
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 12, 2018, 07:42:44 am
Be interesting to hear and back to back comparison of full house to full comp stock for stock buried.
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: HolmenTree on March 12, 2018, 01:21:11 pm
Full house works excellent for carving with a dime tip Cannon.
Here's some pics of my Stihl 019T I carved with over 15 years ago.
At the time mechanical harvesting took my timber faller job and put me lumber grading at the companies lumber division.
So during coffee and lunch breaks for a week, I made a loop of Full house Stihl 13RMS 1/4" out of 2 loops with just a Granberg Break and Mend pliers.
Putting this 019 up for sale too.
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 12, 2018, 01:50:08 pm
Wow now that is something you dont see everyday.

Thanks for sharing those pics.
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: HolmenTree on March 12, 2018, 05:09:36 pm
Wow now that is something you dont see everyday.

Thanks for sharing those pics.
Here's a pic of the side of the chain that got the majority of the break n mend rivet head spinning.
Not the neatest but did the job and never had a problem.
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Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 12, 2018, 06:05:04 pm
Speechless on the 1/4" full house chain    8)
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: Al Smith on March 12, 2018, 08:20:17 pm
Art Martin had one style which was 1/2" chisel with two cutters one behind the other with no space both lefts.Then one space and two rights etc .The comment I heard about full house is it really throws the chips but takes a tremendous  amount of power to use it according to Rotax Robert who for some reason is missing in action .I have no idea what happened to him .We corresponded via E-mail for a few years then he disappeared .
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: ray benson on March 13, 2018, 09:21:41 am
Bamboo cutting chain. Available in Japan?
http://www.oregonchain.jp/products/sawchains.php?name=fullcutter
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: Cut4fun . on March 13, 2018, 09:36:26 am
Bamboo cutting chain. Available in Japan?
http://www.oregonchain.jp/products/sawchains.php?name=fullcutter

Dang sold in stores.

We have a bamboo patch in the valley opening on my land down southern Ohio. Some years part of it dies off. Guessing winter freeze gets it.
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: deezlfan on March 13, 2018, 12:01:00 pm
That little helper handle on that Stihl makes me uneasy. Surprised there isn't a hand guard of some sort.
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: HolmenTree on March 13, 2018, 08:55:13 pm
That little helper handle on that Stihl makes me uneasy. Surprised there isn't a hand guard of some sort.
Hahaha, used that little handle for years. Only screwed it onto the bar when I was finishing up the fine detail work. Was only running it half throttle so nothing to worry about.
Little 019 only had about half the power of a 020/MS200.
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: jmester on March 13, 2018, 09:21:34 pm
Be interesting to hear and back to back comparison of full house to full comp stock for stock buried.

I will see if he will do a video of a full comp chain and full house. It may take a month or so as it takes about 2 weeks to get to him. Plus I have to send it to Nate. For some stuff that nate has for him. Plus it saves on shipping.
Title: Re: Full House race chain
Post by: Philbert on March 16, 2018, 12:08:04 am
Bamboo cutting chain. Available in Japan?
Interesting to see.  We often assume that everything that companies make is shown / available in their catalogs.  I once found some STIHL scratcher chain that they were still making for some industrial uses, but they did not want to talk about it.

Philbert
Title: Re: Full House chain
Post by: Cut4fun on February 14, 2020, 12:12:57 pm
Looking into info why the sandvik full house chain would have been sold in US etc.

Only full house chain I have seen is homemade put together or the newer chains sold to bamboo cutters overseas.

Show the newer in pic to give you idea of full house and then the roll of full house sandvik.

Found my why.  Cutting soft metals


Dug up some old info from Willard Holmen = The "full house" chain has been sold commercially for a long long time. Windsor introduced the "Timber King" Full House in or around 1970 in semi chisel 3/8", it was called 50,58,63 AF it was designed for industrial soft metal cutting.
My old friend Walt Galer who was Windsor's technical services manager gave me a couple of loops of it when I field tested his product back in the 1980s.