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Title: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: chris54 on January 30, 2012, 05:20:35 am
hello all........ i'm new to this site been working on my stihl 024 AV wood boss for a few weeks now off and on would not start before piston had a slight score on it and the rings were stuck compression was 80 psi so i got a new piston and cylinder installed them checked crankcase pressure it is good ...... flywheel key is good .......new carb kit walbro wt22 ....put it back together still dont start getting gas does not even fire with gas in the cylinder..... getting spark.... the manual says Accurate testing of the ignition module is only possible with special test equipment. For this reason it is only necessary to carryout a spark test in the workshop.A new ignition module must be installed if no ignition spark is obtained(after checking that wiring and stop switch are in good condition).......anyone know how to check the Ignition Module besides getting spark before i order a new one..also compression now is 125 psi what is it suposto be........thanks........ Chris......
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: 660magnum on January 30, 2012, 06:51:01 am
125 psi should be enough to get it to fire.

Compression is usually up around 150 and yours may get there if you can run it some and get the ring seated.

There's the possibility that the plug is firing outside the engine but under compression is not firing if the spark is weak?
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: chris54 on January 30, 2012, 07:33:52 am


125 psi should be enough to get it to fire.

Compression is usually up around 150 and yours may get there if you can run it some and get the ring seated.

There's the possibility that the plug is firing outside the engine but under compression is not firing if the spark is weak?

how do you check if the spark is weak......Chris.......


Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: 660magnum on January 30, 2012, 08:05:38 am
The old timers would go by the color

A blue spark was best

There are devices sold to attach to the spark plug wire that will indicate a spark with the plug in the engine.

I think Stihl sells them but you might find a cheaper one at the auto parts?
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: Al Smith on January 30, 2012, 12:19:09 pm
Make sure the air gap of the coil is set correctly .Air gap meaning the distance  the coil piece is set from the flywheel magnets which is usually about 12 thouandths of an inch or about 4 layers of printer paper .
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: Cut4fun on January 30, 2012, 01:24:50 pm
I use a business card slipped between coil / fly to set gap between flywheel  and coil.

I use this to check spark.  HF $4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um5g4aiYsp4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw9Qa6NYw0Q
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: 660magnum on January 30, 2012, 01:40:34 pm
These are $7 at the Autozone down the street from my house. It is the Great Neck brand.

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/OEM-In-line-ignition-spark-tester/_/N-255s?itemIdentifier=900800

It is also at Advance Auto for about the same price and it says S&G on it.

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_x_22985359-P_x_x?cm_mmc=CSE-_-Google-_-VALUE3-_-VALUE4&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=

O'Reilly has them too $4

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/MGI1/5889.oap?ck=Search_N0665_-1_-1&pt=N0665&ppt=C0103

Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: Al Smith on January 30, 2012, 03:05:16 pm
I've got a fancy one made by Snap-on that looks like an ink pen .It's just an induction glow light  you just hold up to the plug wire .
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: chris54 on January 30, 2012, 05:19:50 pm


The old timers would go by the color

A blue spark was best

There are devices sold to attach to the spark plug wire that will indicate a spark with the plug in the engine.

I think Stihl sells them but you might find a cheaper one at the auto parts?



spark is red white at plug must be weak.......air gap should be .008 to .012 according to manual...... i have it set to .010
also found a nick in the plug wire think it was grounding out there put electrical tape on it for now got it started but ordered a new ignition module thanks for all the replies.....Chris.....
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: Cut4fun on January 30, 2012, 05:23:06 pm
IF your coil is still good. On some coils you can replace just the  wire.

 The tape would have worked. I had a wire cut into and spliced it and taped up.
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: chris54 on January 30, 2012, 05:41:08 pm
IF your coil is still good. On some coils you can replace just the  wire.

 The tape would have worked. I had a wire cut into and spliced it and taped up.
     wire dont looks like it comes out.....coil has a whiteish red spark at the plug not blue does that mean it is weak? .......Chris......
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: 660magnum on January 30, 2012, 05:55:02 pm
The wires that come out just unscrew out of the socket in the coil body
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: chris54 on January 30, 2012, 06:05:46 pm
The wires that come out just unscrew out of the socket in the coil body
i'll give it a try.....chris.....
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: 660magnum on January 30, 2012, 06:25:41 pm
Most chainsaw spark plug wires are only 5mm dia. Measure your old wire or take it with you to the store to get the proper diameter and length.
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: Cut4fun . on January 30, 2012, 08:05:40 pm
Good place for bulk wire by the foot.

5mm http://northwoodsaw.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=264

7mm  http://northwoodsaw.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=265
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: Al Smith on January 31, 2012, 05:12:56 am
If you need to tape up a plug wire use something like Scotch 130C tape .This is made for high voltage and will self vulcanize .It's pricey at 8-9 bucks a roll but good stuff .
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: chris54 on January 31, 2012, 05:32:14 am
Good place for bulk wire by the foot.

5mm http://northwoodsaw.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=264

7mm  http://northwoodsaw.com/store/index.php?l=product_detail&p=265
thanks just ordered from them the other day dident think of looking there......Chris......
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: chris54 on January 31, 2012, 05:41:43 am
If you need to tape up a plug wire use something like Scotch 130C tape .This is made for high voltage and will self vulcanize .It's pricey at 8-9 bucks a roll but good stuff .
were do you get that tape from? ......Chris......
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: farmboy on January 31, 2012, 08:01:42 am
 were do you get that tape from? ......Chris......
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Ebay has it.
Shep
Title: Re: stihl 024 Ignition Module
Post by: Al Smith on January 31, 2012, 09:09:32 pm
--or any electrical supply house