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Title: Snow blower started after over a year.
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 26, 2019, 05:25:20 pm
I have this snow blower 4 cycle that I got for free about 3 years ago.     I fixed it and used it a couple of times and then I stuck it in a shed and it sat for over a year with out being started.   Today we go 14 inches of snow so I needed to clean the sidewalks at the house in town and I went to the shed.   I took off the gas cap and smelled and it did not smell good but I did notice the tank was empty.    So I filled it up and it started on the second pull.    The reason I believe is because I only run non ethanol fuel which will not attract water and corrode the carburetor.   I have replaced a lot carbs on mowers and such and the biggest problem was water corrosion.    Thought I would pass it along.
Title: Re: Snow blower started after over a year.
Post by: Philbert on November 26, 2019, 06:25:46 pm
I was always amazed that my two cycle Toro Snow Throwers would start on the first or second pull after a year.   They did not even have an air filter!   My four cycle Toro Snow Thrower also  starts very reliably ( but I like the two cycle ones better)..  Maybe  chainsaws are more finicky due to the small size ?

 I also use ethanol free gas in my snow thrower, and add some StaBil to the fuel container that I use,  because the gas can sit around for a few months.

Philbert
Title: Re: Snow blower started after over a year.
Post by: Cut4fun . on November 27, 2019, 09:31:25 am
I learned to not let ethanol gas set in my Gen after running dry. It is never really dry inside the carb.
It sets with  E-free now just like the boat.
Title: Re: Snow blower started after over a year.
Post by: 3000 FPS on November 27, 2019, 02:11:38 pm
I never realized how much water can be attracted by ethanol until I started working on these carbs for small engines like lawn mowers and such.   The corrosion is terrible.
Title: Re: Snow blower started after over a year.
Post by: Al Smith on December 02, 2019, 07:18:51 am
I've got two generators that always manage to start after sitting a long while .They do puff nasty fumes for a bit then settle right down .I also have a Toro "snow pup " two cycle that was given to me I haven't used for a while because my leaf blower the last few years has been enough .The Toro has a plug in 120 volt starter .So far it's never failed to start .
My roto tiller sits outside with a garbage can over the engine .The only time since I've had over 25-30 years it didn't start the coil was bad .I dug through my junk until I found a good one and that was that .
Title: Re: Snow blower started after over a year.
Post by: highland_hunter on December 06, 2019, 11:13:01 am
I've had excellent luck with premium fuel and Star-tron additive. I run the combo in all my outdoor equipment and most recently the snowblower started on first pull after sitting for about a year. YMMV
Title: Re: Snow blower started after over a year.
Post by: Al Smith on December 08, 2019, 07:10:19 am
A couple years ago I found a 12 HP two stage blower for cheap because the guy was moving to Florida .Gave it to my son then he moved to Louisville and now it's in my shop .I did the Stabil thing to the gas .It's got a plug in 120 volt starter .That thing will really blow the snow but it's been some time since we've had any to amount to anything which doesn't disappoint me .The novelty of that left me decades ago .
Title: Re: Snow blower started after over a year.
Post by: Cut4fun . on December 08, 2019, 07:58:48 am
If you watch this you will see stabilizer dont really help with ethanol gas. Stabilizer with ethonal gas still let corrosion happen. Look at the E-free, with and without.

https://youtu.be/UvS_D4_lF5U
Title: Re: Snow blower started after over a year.
Post by: 3000 FPS on December 09, 2019, 12:46:58 pm
That was a pretty good video.   I guess that confirms my personal findings and experience with working on small engines over the years.  Thanks for posting that Kevin. 
Title: Re: Snow blower started after over a year.
Post by: Philbert on December 20, 2019, 10:30:12 pm
Interesting video.

Guy talks like an infomercial host!

I think of fuel stabilizer as preventing (or retarding) separation or degrading of the fuel components, not for preventing ethanol damage.

All fuel stabilizers the same?  Stabil?  Seafoam? . . . .

Philbert